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80 year old man marries 12 year old girl...(News) (facebook.com)

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[–]baconroux 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Well... if Mohammed did it, it can't be wrong... can it?

Is this even supported in the Quran? Or is the example of Mohammed used as precedent?

[–]StyotNever-Moose Atheist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's more Hadith I think, I don't think the Quran mentions Aisha's age at marriage.

[–]elmehdyNew User 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Aisha'a age at marriage is reported in many Hadiths. See this page where a Muslim scholar defends the claim that she was married at young age:

The saheeh hadiths state that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) did the marriage contract with ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine years old. These hadiths include [...]

Also, the Quran legalizes child marriage by giving instructions on how to divorce girls who haven't reached puberty:

The Quran (Divorce 65:4): The waiting period of those of your women who have lost all expectation of menstruation shall be three months *12 in case you entertain any doubt; and the same shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated.

Commentary: They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at aII throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case [...]. Here, one should bear in mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Qur'an the question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom marriage may have been consummated, for there is no waiting-period in case divorce is pronounced before the consumation of marriage. (Al-Ahzab: 49). Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for the girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl in marriage at this age but it is also pemssible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible.

Marriage to a young girl before she reaches puberty is permissible according to sharee’ah, and it was narrated that there was scholarly consensus on this point.

[–]SarcasticAceex-moose apatheist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Inb4 "Bukhari is not real Islam, please see these links from Dancing Dawah Films and Daddy's Sperm Man. Also, girls in the desert matured faster so even if Bukhari is right it wasn't pedophilia."

[–]702_pakiNew User 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im sorry people actually say this? Isn't everything we know about mo from Bukhari?

[–]dumb1styear 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a bit skeptical about that verse, since as far as I remember,

"Lam yahidna" means did not,

While "lamma yahidna" means did not yet.

So this often is used as an argument by apologetics that if it were to mean minors, it would say lamma yahidna not lam yahidna. But it does have a jussive to it meaning possibility still there (as far as I remember correct me if I'm wrong).

Plus why would the perfect clear revelation to mankind have such ambiguity with such dangerous consequences? Same with idribuhuna, if apologetics are correct and this does really mean seperate (which im rocking my brain over still doesnt make sense) why on earth was a word so synonymous to beat used, only for some other meanings to pop up far later, why would he need websites dedicated to this? Did merciful moon god not care what the implications his verses would have on poor girls and women smh.

[–]Lucian7393New User 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Partially related though ,Scientifically speaking , a man's quality of the "slushy " goes south after the age of 40 and is in continuous decline staring from 20 to 80 , and the parents are more likely to produce autistic kids
http://yourfertility.org.au/for-men/age/

Did I also mention how this is so disturbing that I just wanna pet my dog and watch "TOM AND JERRY ".

[–]spanjbaabNew User 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is hard to watch

[–]ferengiprophetIt wasn't rape because the hadiths didn't say it was rape 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Relevant hadiths from Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim justifying this abhorrent practice:

  • Narrated Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death). Sahih al-Bukhari Book 67, Hadith 70

  • Narrated Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Sahih al-Bukhari Book 67, Hadith 69

  • A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. Sahih Muslim Book 16, Hadith 83

[–]SarcasticAceex-moose apatheist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Excuse me while I vomit into a bucket.

[–]motorcityagnosticWraith Black Badge >> Maybach S600 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A better question is:

What type of fucking weirdo wants to marry a 12 year old in the first place?!

Secondly:

Assuming society has generated a subgroup of genetically defective clowns that actually do, the fact that the faculties and logistics as well as legal provisions exist for such an act to be carried out is indicative of a terminal stage of religion-induced societal decay that is almost beyond repair

[–]kayjaylayray 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

r/multiculturalcancer

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[–]DekirebaSince 2015 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

There really is no limit to how fucked up these incel people are.

It's clear that Islam is spreading in the West, and I think this is a good thing. Islam forces strict codes of conduct on women. They must dress modestly, they can't behave like whores, etc. These are enforced by physical punishments and executions. A huge benefit to helping the spread of Islam is that speaking out against its practices has now been equated to racism. The left has essentially handicapped itself in this regard. Hopefully we will see the end of hypergamy and slutty, degenerate behavior in the West -- though probably not for a few decades.

[–]dumb1styear 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lmao @ that sub.

It all makes sense now....

[–]Qardest -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice cherry picking, bro.

[–]gufestus1 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

What's so "fucked up" about it. They aren't getting what they want. So they want to join a community where there is a better chance.

[–]DekirebaSince 2015 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I was going to give you a serious answer before I checked your post history. Turns out the "they" in your comment is actually you. Nice try though.

[–]gufestus1 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Still doesn't answer the question? Why should they not join Islam when it helps them get what they can't have normally.

[–]Foxodroid 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

A sane person would say because it's morally abhorrent and you should probably sit down and rethink some of your... beliefs but i have a feel you're not sane

[–]gufestus1 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't believe this is right and never said so. But that doesn't mean I'm ignorant to the fact that incels are going to be attracted to this religion simply because it has a better chance of them getting what they lack.

[–]DekirebaSince 2015 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

incels are going to be attracted to this religion simply because it has a better chance of them getting what they lack.

If this was a video of a normal couple being forced into marriage, it might be easier to understand that mindset. But the video in question is an 80 year old man getting married to a 12 year old minor. Anyone who can look at that and say "Wow, maybe I should join Islam" is fucked.

[–]gufestus1 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But they aren't looking at the 12 year old child. They're looking at the 80 year old man. And thinking that if he can get a bride, so can they if they joined Islam. The girl could've been 20 year old and it wouldn't change a thing.

[–]ZenM111 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey did any of my fellow ex Muslims experience this shit? Like relatives or family members? Cause I never seen this wicked shit. What does this have to do with being an ExMuslim?

[–]GodisandalliswellNever-Moose Theist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reminded of the KISS song, Goin' Blind.