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Start hoarding gold, ammunition, and Beanie Babies now, kids, because while all of us were hanging on James Comey’s every well-modulated word, the House passed the first step in repealing the Dodd-Frank financial reforms put into place after the 2008 financial crisis. The sort-of-good news is that, like the House’s terrible horrible Obamacare repeal, the House plan, called the “Financial Choice Act” out of a very grim sense of humor, is likely to face big changes in the Senate, where Dodd-Frank has a lot more support. The bad news is that some version of this thing is likely to pass, because what part of Big Banks Own The Trump Administration don’t you understand?

The “reforms” are allegedly supposed to free the financial markets from the deadly hand of regulations, so that all Americans can become rich, assuming they started out that way. While the House bill wouldn’t actually kill off the Consumer Financial Protection Agency, the watchdog agency designed to protect consumers against financial shenanigans, it would neuter the agency by removing its ability to pass its own rules regulating the financial industry — new rules would have to be approved by Congress. Which would never approve any. The CFPB’s independence would also be limited by having the agency’s director report to the president. Who, we’ll assume, would fire current director Richard Cordray and appoint the head of Goldman Sachs. Or Vnesheconombank. Oh, and one more little change: The CFPB would no longer be able to impose fines on companies that rip off consumers. Other than being made toothless, it would remain much the same, and would provide consumers the same degree of protection they’d get from a taxidermied guard dog.

Dodd-Frank, as you may recall, was at least a partial attempt to impose some discipline on big banks by requiring they undergo “stress tests” to prove they could withstand a serious financial downturn, and to set up a framework for an orderly liquidation if they fail, without demanding a bailout from the government. Republicans think the rules are far too restrictive and are hurting small banks, Democrats think the rules aren’t strict enough, and many, like Elizabeth Warren, would like to see a return of the Glass-Steagall Act that separated big banks’ normal banking functions from their riskier investment divisions.

Oh, and here’s where the “choice” comes in. Banks would be the ones doing the choosing:

If they want to avoid many of the regulatory barriers imposed during the Obama administration, they would have to significantly increase their emergency financial surpluses. That way, if they run into financial trouble, the banks would be more likely to survive without taxpayers’ help, supporters of the bill say.

The nation’s biggest banks are unlikely to be able to have that much liquidity on hand, so there are some giveaways for them, too:

Institutions would have to undergo fewer stress tests to prove they could survive another economic disaster, and they would get more information upfront about what they would be judged on, for example. The Volcker Rule, which restricts big banks’ ability to make certain risky financial bets, would be repealed. Doing away with that provision alone could boost profits at big banks by more than $2 billion next year […]

Huh! So they’d be freed of the burden of having to prove they’re sound, and in return, they could speculate more freely? Can’t imagine how that could go wrong. The bill would also get rid of rules meant to limit pay for executives of financial firms, because you need to be able to reward success.

Not surprisingly, Elizabeth Warren is having none of it:

Trump supporters listened carefully then unleashed a bunch of hilarious Tweets making Indian jokes, woo-woo-woo-woo!

If you’re looking for some optimism, or at least for some informed whistling in the dark, check this Nation article explaining why the Senate is supposedly not insane enough to pass this shit sandwich. The thesis here is that the House bill is all about sending a friendly message to Wall Street, not passing legislation, but we’re not entirely convinced — the sound of investment bankers grunting around the door sill is far too loud.

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  • memzilla Ω

    I’m so old, I remember when the bank robbers worked on the other side of the counter.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    Fuck. My day drinking is getting waaaaay out of hand. Because what is this shit sandwivch?

    • mailman27

      See, there’s your problem. Gotta change your sandwich choices, then you can move to a new beverage.

  • mrFawkes

    I’m torn in which avenue to take in managing my money. Should I go the grizzly bear DeVos market route, or take the trump bullshit path?

    • jowgajen

      I believe the DeVos route is the old fashioned marry a rich guy route. Donnie’s route was the fall back inherit a fuck ton of money route.

    • cats530

      I suggest you ask Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs. He claims to be doing “God’s work” in offering you “shitty deals” on toxic CDOs like Timberwolf and Abacus and “ripping the faces off the muppets.”

  • ariel_gee_398

    Can’t we just give the Republicans some propane and matches? It’d be a hell of a lot quicker.

    • Proud Liberal

      Seriously! This is death by a thousand cuts!

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Matches, propane and propane accessories.

      • proudgrampa

        I have this really cool propane blowtorch they are more than welcome to borrow.

  • Mpeg

    After their callous, complicit role in the financial metldown — it’s still as if the big banks don’t want us plebes to have Nice Things, or even just Things.

  • cats530

    Didn’t the big banks’ lobbyists write Dodd-Frank?

    • That’s why it’s watered down. If they wrote nothing the pitchforks were coming and they knew it.

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    Anything to steal them retirement dollars!

    • WotsAllThisThen

      When Trump voters lose their retirement, they’ll have a financial choice to make.

    • lowenufc

      As long as the Lieberals cry, worth it. I can hear them muttering that into their bowls of stone soup.

  • proudgrampa

    For fuck’s sake…

  • La forza del resistino

    To most Trump voters, Dodd Frank is the opening act to the headliners at the State fair.
    May have posted this earlier in my prior life today.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Trump voters think Dodd Frank is either Barney’s other gay twin brother or Anne’s illiterate cousin who scribbled a less well-known coloring book in the secret annex. Then there’s Lisa Frank, who combined all of them to produce a cottage industry of diaries with LSD unicorns and other rainbow motifs on them.

      • Upfist for LSD unicorns.

      • mailman27

        Never forget Sandy Frank.

        • FlownΩver

          And Ballpark Frank.

  • elviouslyqueer

    *sigh*

    *stuffs more money under mattress*

    • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

      What, American money? I’ve got some debts, but maybe I’ll be able to pay them all off with one fresh egg pretty soon.

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    Why does page image look so familiar?

    O right…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_Life_of_Balso_Snell

    • proudgrampa

      Very Freudian, if you ask me…

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    I wish I could impress upon all of these people that the only meaning to life at all is to leave behind something worth keeping. We exist to enrich each other and the world, not ourselves. Value of humanity is not measured in material wealth, that part’s as transitory as it gets and will not make a dent in the fabric of existence.

    Those human history looks fondly on are the peacemakers, the scholars, the artists, the thinkers. I am just saying. . .

    • Proud Liberal

      Yeah, these guys don’t fucking care about being good human beings.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      /snark off: that was beautiful
      /snark back on

    • Nockular cavity

      I believe that the response du jour is “Says who?”

    • Three Finger Salute

      It’s kind of hard to do any of that, unfortunately, when you don’t have material wealth for the basics. I’m sure I could produce some tchotchke that’s at least good enough to sell for a quid or two on Etsy if I had a job and could pay rent and buy food (and buy whatever supplies I needed to make whatever it is I’m going to “create”). J.K. Rowling used to live in what I think is called a council house in Scotland. But this country is going to revert to the dark ages idea- and education-wise, because the artists or those who want to be artists are literally going to starve.

  • WomanInThePersistence
    • proudgrampa

      Trump: “I didn’t say Let Flynn Go, I said Go Like Flynn!”

  • ariel_gee_398

    Also, on a serious note, the CFPB actually works. I suppose that’s why Republicans and banks hate it so much. But it really helps people, is not a nightmare to deal with, and has nice searchable records so you can find out if the shady things your financial institutions (including credit card companies) are doing to you have been done to other people. And financial institutions actually respond and fix things when they get CFPB complaints.

    • doktorzoom

      See, clearly it’s a disaster.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Also, on a serious note, the CFPB actually works. I suppose that’s why Republicans and banks hate it so much.

      It’s more than that. It’s Elizabeth Warren’s brainchild. Republicans are petty and like to go for the jugular. This is a personal attack on Warren herself, just like calling the ACA “Obamacare” was meant to discredit Obama by attaching his name to a policy that his opponents set up to fail.

      There’s a not so subtle Reagan “welfare queen” racialization in attaching the Obama___ prefix to public assistance programs (including some that were tsarted or expanded under Reagan himself). Lifeline, for instance, used to be about giving landline phone access to the poor and elderly. But it had to modernize along with technology, so Obama expanded it to include mobile phone and Internet service for low-income folks as well.

      Result: “Obamaphones” (free iPhones for undeserving n… uh, people who annoy you!), and “Obamanet” (free Internet so those leeches can sit on their fat asses and watch porn or be on Facebook all day!). Not so they can have access to emergency 911 service, call up the doctor when their kids are sick, or their kids can do homework and keep up in an increasingly technological world. “They don’t even belong having kids in the first place, so why should we give them Internet?!?!?111! STERILIZE THE UNFIT!!!!”

      The result of 8 years of Obama derangement syndrome is that the mere concept of a safety net in general came to be known as Obammunism (portmanteau of Obama and communism). Now Obama is gone, so the nutjobs in their various corners of the Internet are calling healthcare reform Eurocare and — the next ad-hominem target — “Trudeaucare.”

      CFPB is going to be renamed “Casino Feather Pow-wow Brigade” or something to that effect, just to smite Elizabeth Warren. You watch.

  • capnkrunch

    I recently got into a bit of an argument with my dad about financial regulation. We were talking about what we would do if we were absolute ruler of the US. I said I would hire Keynesian economics to run our economics policy. He said no tax and spend [not actually what Keynesian economics is about] we need less regulation because the market allocates resources most effectively.

    I countered that left to itself, the market inevitable trends towards being dominated by a small group that only work to allocate resources to themselves. I pointed out that this bad faith acting was the direct cause of the recession. His response was that the Clinton administration was the root cause because of their programs to make mortgages easier to get.

    I didn’t think about it at the time but that actually backed up my point that deregulation was bad. I’ve come to believe that you can’t regulate industry heavily enough. Especially the financial sector. They shouldn’t be allowed to throw a company picnic without government oversight by an agency that has strong anti-revolving door protections. Everything those fuckers do is in bad faith.

    • I recently got into a similar argument with my dad.

      He called me a liberal commie about 30 seconds in and I patiently corrected him and reminded him that I am a Marxist.

      Then he wanted to talk about his golf game.

    • BMW

      I have been in that argument sevetal times myself and my counter points are usually: “low interests rates both encouraged lending and created more demand for high value homes, this pushing up real estate prices, more than a few token rule changes designed to help people trying to buy their first home” and “poor people weren’t loaning money to themselves…banks were more than happy to push loans on as many people as possible because they earn profits off the interest paid” and of course “people buying homes that had nothing to do with people who already owned homes using their home equity as credit to make purchases to drive economic growth for several years. Because of that, once home values dropped and equity disappeared, the rest of the economy was effected.”

      • capnkrunch

        I don’t fully understand everything behind the recession but my understanding is that Clinton era deregulation really helped allowed lenders to make riskier loans then turn around and bundle them together as the high risk CDOs.

        I think my dad was referring to the CRA and the conservative myth that it forced banks into providing subprime mortgages. Which is not only untrue but more importantly, changes to the CRA during the Clinton administration removed regulations and oversight.

        I think the “gotcha” they’re going for is that Clinton was a Democrat therefore…something. Which misses the point. Financial deregulation is bad regardless of who does it.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

    I see the Fall of our Republic proceeds apace. Republicans are simply the most stupid, venal, wretched wastes-of-skin I have ever encountered.

    • Proud Liberal

      They are enemies of the state.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        I agree.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Bannon did say this was his goal. To “destroy the administrative state”. Claims to be a “Leninist,” so why would a rampant capitalist like Trump want an avowed communist on his team…?

        • He blows smoke up Trumps ass and that’s all Trump cares about.

    • cats530

      Selfish, narcissistic, myopic. Their greed knows no bounds and they can’t see past the end of their nose at the larger picture that will affect everyone.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Yep.

    • Bobathonic

      obligatory “But both sides…” hooey.

  • cats530

    “Socialism for the rich and on your own rugged individualism for everyone else,” Bernie Sanders said of the results of the GAO 16 Trillion Dollar Federal Reserve Audit he co-chaired with Ron Paul.

    Here we go again!

  • DainBramage

    Countdown to the next economic collapse. 3… 2…

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    It’s entirely possible that some people think Dodd Frank is Frank Dodd and that’s why the eagerness to kill him– er, it.

  • GreenGoldSharpie

    Because, as know, banks need more cash to play with and fewer rules to interfere in their games.

    • Proud Liberal

      Biggest Ponzi scheme on earth.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Well the money’s just sitting there, doncha know?

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        Not doing anything but waiting for students to pay back a ton of interest on it!

  • canes_pugnaces

    Given how leveraged the markets are right now, and we’re in the middle of both a debt and irrational exuberance cycle, I am sure the markets won’t crash when banks take on more highly leveraged assets. BTW: this is all about what’s next: a trillion dollar transfer of public funds to the private sector. I hope the good people on West Virginia like toll roads, bridges, airports, fire departments and police forces.

    • Proud Liberal

      That’s exactly what is going to happen. They will privatize all government functions and expand the military. A win-win for nobody but the top 1%.

      • canes_pugnaces

        Yup.

    • therblig

      what good will roads be when they have to sell their cars and trucks for insulin?

  • Sheepshagger

    In other news, large horde of carnivores release from zoos across America : ” The free market, in all its glory will regulate the savaging and consumption of the lame and the unhealthy”,Paul Ryan was quoted as saying. “And in any event, every mauling has winners and losers. If Jesus didn’t want your child to be eaten by wolves he wouldn’t have created teeth.”

    • cats530

      Privatizing social security, Paul Ryan’s Ayn Randian voucherized wetdream!

      • jesterpunk

        He already benefited from Social Security, its time to kill it so no one else can.

  • Indiepalin

    Schiff is asking Trump to finally turn over all those tapes he says he might have.

    • Three Finger Salute

      (Trump gives Schiff several copies of Home Alone 2 on VHS)

      • Indiepalin

        Cassette tapes of Bon Jovi circa 1988.

  • Carpe Vagenda
    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Fuck Bernie Sanders.

    • Nockular cavity

      Oh, FFS.

  • Bill D. Burger

    While everybody looks at the FUBAR goings on of the Orange shiny object, his minions are busily enriching their owners and screwing everyone else over. And that’s the main reason they want him to remain where he is …. until he becomes too much of a liability.

    • Bobathonic

      Zaphod Beeblebrox libelz!

  • Jenny

    Hey speaking of shit crashing the economy. Retail. Retail jobs specifically. You know the sector that employs a lot of people. Significantly more jobs than coal. They’re going the way of the dodo. Where are all of them going to go? Amazon drivers? Not enough jobs to go around, and a ton who are uneducated but were getting by on commissions will have no where to go.

    Our future. It gets brighter under Trump every day!

    • GreenGoldSharpie

      They’ll all be working in coal mines!

    • DainBramage

      The economy won’t work when all we do is sell fast food to each other.

    • Rick Hill

      The demand for soylent isn’t going to fill itself.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Retail is going to get automated rapidly over the next decade, as are most low-wage jobs. Civilized countries like France and Canada are talking mincome as a way to ensure that people don’t die in the street. Third-world dictatorships like the U.S. consider such a fate to be “God’s will.”

  • anwisok
  • whitroth

    As part of my election campaign, should I decide to run for Congress, I’ve got this to say about that: the GOP is ACTIVELY pro-crime, as long as it’s white collar crime. They deregulated and Raygun defanged the IRS audits in the mid-eighties. Two years later, the S&L debacle (which was said to be 30% white collar crime in the papers at the time). They deregulated the telecoms. Two years later, the dot-com bubble burst. They cut regulation on lending under Dumbshit, and 2008.

    Come on, folks, three times is enemy action.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    Banksters and hedge fund managers will get to play casino games with our life savings again! Hooray!

    • Proud Liberal

      I was going to raise my 401(k) contribution today. I’ve decided against it.

      • Saxo the Grammarian

        I’m cashing out next year. I’d be better off buying treasury bonds.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Funnily enough, corporate and municipal bond funds are going up at a much higher than usual rate.

    • Bill D. Burger

      They can already feel themselves becoming too big to fail and so don’t mind or fear at all another great recession.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    Until the Great Depression in the 1930s, the U.S. economy went through frequent “panics”, the old term for recession/depression. During and after the Great Depression, various financial reforms (SEC, FDIC, Social Security*, etc) made the financial system more stable. But memories of the trauma of those times have faded. So now people seriously talk about how that stability comes at too high a price in prosperity. The 2008-2010 recession is a consequence — or a cautionary tale — of deregulation. We are doomed to repeat our history.
    _____________________________________________
    * Before Social Security, people retired on bank savings, company pensions and investments. Today we call that “privatization”. When the Depression his, all those things were wiped out. So retirees were forced to go back to work, aggravating unemployment. And near retirees were forced to stay at work with the same consequence.

    • Jenny

      I’ve had people argue that boom and bust is the natural cycle and we need to return to it. I sure look forward to being broke and starting over every 5 years. Don’t you?

      • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

        Next time someone says that to you punch ’em in the nose, hard. Not with votes, but with your fist – mostly knuckles. Make sure you angle it up a bit, too. Give a plastic surgeon a challenge.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    we’ve seen this movie. WE KNOW HOW IT ENDS.

    Jeesus, they won’t be happy till it’s all rubble, will they?

    • Proud Liberal

      No, they won’t. They hate the American people.

      • Three Finger Salute

        No, they won’t. They hate the American people.

        FTFY

      • baconzgood

        At least when the commies were in charge business didn’t want to do deal with them. Fearing you could be vaporized at ANY moment was a small price to pay.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Depends – who gets first bidding rights on the rubble?

      • Vecchioivan

        I’m going to take out rubble insurance in cash in big.

    • DainBramage

      They’re just following a scorched earth policy, as Adolf intended.

    • jesterpunk

      They will just blame democrats when the shit hits the fan and claim they need more tax cuts for the rich just like last time.

  • baconzgood
  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

    By coincidence, I’ve been watching a remarkable film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1kUeTFFZos

    Set in 1990, and mostly edited from news clips and training films, it depicts a coup against Gorbechev and a new Soviet hardline leader escalating to Hot War and then Nuclear War.

    • UnsaltedSinner

      I remember being very close to the end of my military service in ’91 and standing guard at the gate of the base when someone stuck his head out of the guardhouse and called out: “Damn! There’s been a coup in the Soviet Union! Gorbachev has been arrested.” And I thought: “Oh, great! I’m just about to be demobbed, and then they start a civil war right across our border…”

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        Wow. Thank goodness it didn’t go that way. I used to know a guy was an MP near the Fulda Gap. Their orders if it started was to “Move to Contact.” They had Ford Mutts and M60 Machine Guns.

        • shivaskeeper

          Anyone stationed in Germany was supposed to do that and essentially be a speed bump until the rest of the military could deploy to Europe.

          Move to contact and hold ground. We all knew if that happened we were going to buy time with our blood and lives.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            It’d be bad to face Soviet Recon armor with an M60. REFORGER would take what? 72 hours, at best?

            I have a novel that is also a training manual, “First Strike” by Kenneth Macksey. The Canadian Brigade Group has to hold for 24 hours against a Soviet force so US VII Corps can re-organize.

          • shivaskeeper

            In 1990 timelines: a battalion in 12-24 depending on readiness and equipment. The rest of a brigade to follow in 48-96. Full divisions in 15-30 days.

            That was assuming the advance battalions and brigades would fall in on equipment already on the ground.

            It takes a lot of time, equipment, and manpower to move all of it.

            Also if I remember my Unit Movement Officer training right, expect 10% attrition just from moving that fast at the various land, rail, air, and sea ports.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            Wow. I’m glad the Cold War never turned Hot. I’m endlessly fascinated by it, though. Books, models, wargames – I study it all the time. I’m always on the lookout for more information.

          • shivaskeeper

            I’m glad it never turned hot also, too.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            I was trying to get in to Annapolis as a teen. I turned 18 as Desert Storm was on, but by then my health was such that I never went to college or served at all.

          • shivaskeeper

            I was just a young, dumb grunt for Desert Storm. In fact I was so young I wasn’t old enough to deploy for the build up and actual war. I didn’t turn 18 until the war was over. But I did deploy for the follow on and to help move equipment out.

            As far as it goes for me, no one owes me any explanation on why they did or did not serve.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            :) I really wanted a career. I had to give up dreams of Aviation when I developed Nearsightedness, and I couldn’t imagine all the maths it would take for Submarines, so I was thinking Surface Warfare.

            But it wasn’t to be.

          • shivaskeeper

            I always wore glasses so flying was out for me from the get go. As for the Navy, it never even crossed my mind. We had plenty of museum ships in New Jersey and they were all so small. As a not very large teenager I could barley fit through most of the hatchways.

            I know modern ships were larger, but still, no chance. It was a toss up between the Marines and the Army. The Marines wanted a six year active commitment and the Army only wanted four. That two years makes a huge difference when you are 17, so the Army got me. In the long run it didn’t matter since I found a home in the service and ended up doing just short of 23 years.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            I would have been proud to serve in any. I think part of why I wanted the Navy was living on the plains of Eastern Colorado, I was almost as far as you can get from either ocean. I was a little Teenage Hawk, and Reagan promised a 600-ship Navy.

            I had a Navy calendar, posters of the Nimitz , the PHM Hydrofoils, and USS California on my wall right next to Samantha Fox and Heather Thomas.

          • Miles Monroe

            Ah, yes, the hydrofoils; another project Boeing nearly went belly up on mainly because then-CEO T. Wilson really loved boats.

            We fondly recall the Tucumcari tear-assing around Puget Sound, hindered only by the occasional semi-submerged Douglas fir log …

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            Yikes! When I was a teen, we had a Commodore 64 Sim of the PHM series Hydrofoils. I was addicted to the damned things.

          • Miles Monroe

            It was quite a sight, zipping along on-step, with daylight under the hull; but as a viable modern weapons system–well, let’s just say the log usually won …

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            I can imagine. Pegasus could carry 8 Harpoon missiles, but staying in one piece long enough to lock and launch….

  • Proud Liberal

    Required reading: The Big Short. Very insightful about what’s going to happen.

  • Red Bird Ω

    Open thread! Curry shrimp for dinner. Life is good.

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    From Dan Rather, Good thing to help keep our eyes on the ball.

    As with many of my fellow Americans, i don’t consider myself partisan
    politically – never have. I am a registered independent voter and have
    been for most of my life. With that in mind, I submit the following:

    Can we please get this out of the way? None of what is happening at the
    top of government now is normal. None of it. And no one should
    normalize it. No one.

    We have a President who lies without a second thought. Big bold lies that are easily disproven. That is not normal.

    We have serious allegations around obstruction of justice by that President. That is not normal.

    We have an FBI director fired for insisting to continue pursuing a
    serious investigation into the sanctify of our republic. It has never
    happened before in our history. That is not normal.

    We have a hostile foreign power attacking and undermining our electoral process. That is not normal.

    We have an Attorney General under a serious shadow of association with
    said foreign power, with indications that there is much more to this
    story than we yet know. That is not normal.

    We have Federal
    judges, our closest foreign allies, and the free press under scurrilous
    attack from the President and his enablers. At the same time we have
    despots praised. That is not normal.

    We have an Administration
    fanning the flames of division over race, ethnicity, religion,
    sexuality, and gender. That is not normal.

    We have an overhaul of our entire health care system being written in secret on a rapid time frame. That is not normal.

    We have a sordid confluence of the President’s business interests and his political power. That is not normal.

    The list could go on and on. And feel free to add your own to the comments section.

    What concerns me even more than any of these items is the fact that
    they are largely being met by a shrug or excuses from most Republican
    elected officials. Even many Democrats seem overwhelmed and are inclined
    to let some of this just ride. That may be how politics works. But this
    is bigger. It’s about our nation.

    We are shifting the goalposts
    for our democracy. We are failing to be outraged by the outrageous
    because there is something even more outrageous that always seems to hit
    the news cycle. And that is dangerous.

    What gives me hope is we
    have had waves of abnormality in our country’s history. And we’ve had
    times when what we would consider now to be not normal, like
    segregation, was considered normal. What has centered and saved our
    country time and again is civic engagement. I believe that most people
    in this nation don’t think any of this is normal. And they could very
    well vote out those elected officials in both parties who are
    normalizing these outrages.

    • therblig

      Trumpanzee response: Yup, that was 8 years of obummer’s tyranny.

      maybe it’s time to take up praying to st. jude.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        And maybe it’s time to just stop caring about what trumpanzees want. They’re all lost causes and we really don’t need them. Force them back into their racist little holes.

        • Miles Monroe

          Yup, let them secede and have their utopian little Neo-Confederacy–and build that wall to them out; they’ll all be starving and freezing in the dark in short order; like North Korea, only with more inbreeding and fetal alcohol syndrome …

    • baconzgood

      That is an excellent point. Several in fact. Baconz would like to add my 2C to it. I think the root cause of this blind party loyalty over love of country began…

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/566224bd8664ed98e73efe31d7c38b213faa39c3bfc6f3c9e5d90b12ed721ccb.jpg

      SQUIRREL!

      (Two “SQUIRREL!” gags and an “I find this difficult to masturbate to” in the same thread. I’m so glad comments aren’t allowed here cause I’m of fire)

    • Miles Monroe

      Anyone else just a little tired of this ongoing timidity for the sake of “objectivity” and “unbiased” in characterizing the outrageous, obscene, insane, illegal, and plain shit-all stupid as merely “not normal”?!

      Maybe if guys like Rather had to worry about their healthcare, home, or retirement security, they might come up more befitting adjectives …

    • YoBunnyBunny

      I absolutely cannot wait for 30 or 40 years into the future (should we survive), when all the hindsight think pieces try to recast this whole episode as earnest and unwitting Republicans just doing what they believed was right. Can’t you just see a 70 year old Paul Ryan pleading innocence? All those “bad” people–not him, totally some other guys that he never agreed with anyways, right?

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Well, now, you people just aren’t seeing far enough down the road, here. The richest people in the country NEED their money. They just do. How else can they afford the things they need to stay alive, like diamond-encrusted shoes, football-field sized yachts, fifteen houses, private Learjets, and the like? But it takes a lot of worker bees to keep all those possessions looking spiffy, and that’s where you and I come in! Once the banks fail, and take all our savings, we’ll all be hired by the very rich to help them maintain their images. Why, we’ll have the scraps right off their banquet tables! Have you ever eaten the tails of jumbo shrimp that were cut off in the kitchen? Delicious! And the accommodations; you need only look at the luxury apartments of the happy staff at Downton Abbey to see how high we’ll be living. Those of us who look our best in uniforms will be allowed to drive their cars. Those who are a little less photogenic can scrub the gold toilets, which is quite the line on the old resume! Just think of a future without that pesky middle class. It’ll be glorious, glorious, I tells ya!

  • Three Finger Salute

    I hear they’re casting Trey Gowdy as Patrick Star for the next live-action Spongebob movie.

    https://i.imgflip.com/1qmgbo.jpg

    • DainBramage

      I don’t know. Trey seems too much of an intellectual lightweight to handle the role of Patrick.

      • Nockular cavity

        That. Patrick libel!

      • Bobathonic

        “The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma.”

    • therblig

      evidence does suggest he lives under a rock.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      He was a Zika baby?

      • proudgrampa

        FAS?

    • Lulu Mac

      That man is the epitome of derp.

  • BMW

    The other “goods” news is that when this blows up in their faces again, people might blame the right policies this time.

    Aw, who am I kidding…

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • Shoto

      “You say that like it’s a bad thing.”

      — Paul Ryan

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        “Beachfront property for the rich!”

        • Three Finger Salute

          Well, when we’re all underwater due to climate change and Nebraska is an island… You get beachfront property, and you get beachfront property… Everyone gets beachfront property!

  • baconzgood

    I find this difficult to masturbate to.

    • Crystalclear12

      That’s because you’re getting screwed.

    • Shanzgood

      Good, because you’re probably not home from work yet!

  • Crystalclear12

    But her emails. . .
    Obligatory.

  • Lulu Mac

    My house is currently listed for sale. That fucker better sell fast…

  • Anna Rompage

    Just another step in the GOP’s effort to implement their WealthCare plan…

    • Three Finger Salute

      I call it “Wedontcare”. They literally don’t care if the insignificant ants live or die.

      Something something prisons and workhouses.

  • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

    Sooooo glad I am renting. Thought about purchasing a few years back but decided “Nah” not worth risk.

    • mancityRed6

      I miss the idea of having a house…ok, I miss having a bbq and a back yard for dogs…but I’m kind of ok with renting.

      • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

        I have a small backyard and I have a grill. I use both frequently. It is just not worth it to own a home, not anymore. The housing market is a political football and every few years some assholes (coughrepublicanscough) are going to fuck it up and there goes your equity. So, no thanks, I am perfectly fine with renting and taking all the money I would spend on repairs, insurance, etc and putting it away for retirement.

        • mancityRed6

          I had a good Canadian grill, I left it outside year round and cooked on it year round. Every Sunday, rain or shine. Is it bad I miss that more than my wife but not as much as my dogs?

          • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

            It’s one of the good things about Cali – I was outside in shorts a t-shirt and flip-flops grilling in December. We grill about once a week.

            And no, it’s not bad.

          • mancityRed6

            The last cold winter, I was in thermals, jeans, and insulated overalls with a parka. Meat on the grill and throwing ball for the pups.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            No, it is not bad. My last GF was the one who showed me how to be strong enough to get my family to stop abusing me, but she also too dumped me without a word when life got hard.

            I miss her cat “Boo-Boo” more than I miss her.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

    I’ve been a slave to my family, of every kind of abuse.

    I wont be a slave again. Let all know this. I will *not* be a slave again.

    • sw19covfefe

      Sounds like a good plan. :)

  • Shoto

    Needz Moar MAGA.

  • mancityRed6

    this is bad news for my 401k

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
  • Shibusa
  • SadDemInTex

    Fuck, I won’t be dead in 5 years.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Not to be all pessimistic, but one never knows.

      • Lizzietish81

        The horse could talk!

        • WomanInThePersistence

          ???

          • Lizzietish81

            You’ve never heard that one?

            A thief appears before King Louis who is about to sentence him to death when the thief promises that if the King let’s him live, he’ll teach his favorite horse how to talk. Louis agrees to give him a year to pull this off.

            So later the thief is hanging out with one of his friends who points out that this is impossible and the thief says, well a lot could happen in a year.

            The King could die.

            The horse could die.

            Or I could die.

            Or the horse could talk.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I like this. Bigly. Thanks.

    • mancityRed6

      I’m working on it…for me, not you. you get your own damn solution.

  • Lizzietish81

    Invest in pepper spray and tasers now!

    • mancityRed6

      hire yourself out as a steak seasoner
      the taser is for when they won’t pay up?

    • Pilotshark

      pick forks as well, maybe with pepper spray and taser attachments.

      • mancityRed6

        sharks with pitchforks with pepper spray and tasers, thrown by gorillas….

    • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

      Pepperball gun. Use a paintball gun, buy pepper balls. Very, very effective.

  • mancityRed6

    so, I don’t like popular music, and I’m only in the car for about 15 minutes a day on work days (that Dead Kennedy’s CD is still in there for other days). should I be worried about the recent uptick in commercials that tell people how to flip houses?

    • BeachBum

      Nyet comrade. In Russia, housed flip you !

      • mancityRed6

        seriously, there are more commercials about flipping houses and getting financing now than there were a few months ago. I’m genuinely scared of the morons who believe them.

        • jesterpunk

          Are you in PA or something? There is some guy on all the damn time talking about a free workshop on how to flip houses and make eleventy billion dollars with no work and none of your own money.

          • Three Finger Salute

            It’s not that wife-beating, philandering wacko from HGTV, is it?

          • Lizzietish81

            I refuse to believe there’s only one.

          • Three Finger Salute

            I think he has a Russian pee hooker tape somewhere called Flip or Fap.

          • jesterpunk

            No its the other wacko from HGTV, Than Merrill.

          • Pilotshark

            that be the one here in Oregon.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Is everyone wacko on HGTV except Drew and Jonathan?

          • jesterpunk

            Pretty much.

          • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

            I think he’s the same one I hear about here in NV.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Well, if there’s ever a place to make a risky gamble, it’s Vegas.

          • mancityRed6

            they play those commercials all over. how you can sign up for a speech on it or whatever and you’ll get a thumb drive full of how you can get money to flip houses for nothing. easy peasy.
            my bullshit detector goes in the red.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

          Remember all the TV shows about flipping there used to be on cable? I’ve heard it said that every episode lead to a divorce and financial ruin for all the people whom tried to “flip”.

          • mancityRed6

            the last I had cable or satellite, it was all about buying or selling. I’m glad I’ve missed the last 11 years of that.

    • mailman27

      I keep hearing the one from the guy who had his electricity shut off 9 TIMES!! until he found a way to make money without lifting a finger. I keep thinking, I never had my electricity shut off cuz I discovered this one weird trick about getting a fucking job.

      • mancityRed6

        I had my gas shut off once…once. but that was 19 years ago.

  • BeachBum

    Paul Ryan must think we are idiots if we believe his excuse for Trump “he is new to government.” Being new to ANY job is NEVER an excuse for constant lying, breaking the law, and doing the wrong thing.
    I now understand the simple requirements in the Constitution for president. If a person is not a crook, liar, cheat, thief, con-man, racist, bigot or ego-maniac, they probably cant do much harm as president. The writers may have given us too much credit that we wouldn’t elect one.

    • Bobathonic

      They were ready to hang Obama for being an amateur. Weird.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Yeah, I don’t think that’s why they wanted to hang him…

        (with more than just votes)

        • Bobathonic

          Oh thaaaaat thing, yeah.

          I meant like this thing:
          https://www.amazon.com/Amateur-Edward-Klein/dp/1596987855

          Maybe I was a bit hyperbolic.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Nah, amateurism would just be one more thing to pile onto his list of noncrimes in the GOP’s diseased mindset. FFS, they wanted to hang him for playing golf. They probably thought he was Nicole’s real killer.

          • mailman27

            And don’t forget the Dijon mustard. Good God, the MUSTARD!!! AAAAAARRrrgghhhh!!!1!!1!!!!!

    • cmd resistor

      So lots of places give you a 90 day probationary period, which he has passed without proving competent in the least.

    • Miles Monroe

      Well, he’s speaking to his base, so yes, idiots.

    • kaydenpat

      So why did they support someone who was not qualified for the job on day one? How the hell can the American public have confidence in a man who has to learn on the job? He needs to leave or be taken out if he cannot act as the President. Period.

      Ryan knows that Republicans wouldn’t buy such an argument about a Democratic President.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

    Seriously, what’s the rush? It is as if the Rs figure if they don’t grab every damned dime *now*, it’ll be too late.

    • BeachBum

      Maybe someone told them bout Louis XIV.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        “It was the Best of Times, it was the Worst of Times.” Indeed.

      • mancityRed6

        alright, who leaked?

      • pstockholm

        Don’t want to hear about Donnie’s deluge.

    • mackafritz

      With climate change maybe it is too late.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        That’s how my thoughts have been turning since Micro-Peen I pulled out of the Paris Accord.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      I think there’s some panic that the SS Trumptanic will take them all down eventually, so they are trying to maximize the ratfucking until then. Also, they are hoping that by fucking us all over now, we’ll have forgotten the transgressions by the time the 2018 midterms swing around.

      • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

        This shit won’t even be forgotten when 2118 rolls around.

    • shivaskeeper

      They ate doing the calculus for 2018. As of now with the Presidency, both houses of Congress, and the SCOTUS they have gotten nothing done.

      Some of their base will, if not turn on them, will just stay home for not getting anything done.

      They are also doing the calculus on impeachment and possible criminal charges. They need to get the craziest shit passed so they can blame DJT after he goes down.

      • BeachBum

        I think so. GOP will have a difficult time keeping the majorities in 2018. They really only have about a year to smash and grab what they can. Not counting breaks and recesses.

        • shivaskeeper

          Since they have been hiding from their constituents on the breaks thus far, unless something changes there, I don’t see them getting their message out effectively. If I was a Dem strategist, I would be holding town halls with the Dem opponent hosting them every time they were a no-show.

          • Erala Contratista

            Yes to this!
            Nothing like crickets to focus the mind.

          • shivaskeeper

            To me it’s a no brainer. If they don’t show or refuse to speak to constituents, the competition should step in and do it instead. Start getting the message out, start building name recognition, just start engaging the voters.

      • Miles Monroe

        Calculus?! They can’t even do “the arithmetic”!

    • DainBramage

      To paraphrase Mony Python:
      🎶 Every dollar’s sacred,
      Every dollar’s great,
      If we don’t steal your dollars,
      God gets quite irate.
      🎶

    • Pinkham’s Law

      They know that, when the chickens from this come home to roost, they’re likely to get voted out, hard. So, yes. They’re grabbing while they can, and trying to break shit so badly it’ll take a very long time to undo the damage. Assuming it even can be undone.

    • mancityRed6

      the polls say (yeah, I know) that the hardcore right–never mind the “alt right” fringe groups–are on their way out. they know it and they want to make it as hard as possible to reverse the shit they pass along the way out the door. it doesn’t matter to them, they’ll all be dead in a few or ten years anyway.

      • Three Finger Salute

        > it doesn’t matter to them, they’ll all be dead in a few or ten years anyway.

        The 4chan crowd are really in their 80s? Or do you mean everyone will be dead due to nuclear war and/or climate change?

        • mancityRed6

          the 4chan crowd isn’t as big as the Reagan revolution. plus, most of them will grow out of the lulz in a couple of years if they haven’t already.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Economically-wise maybe. I gather most of them are broke and/or in debt for student loans. But Gen-Z seems to be the one that’s latched onto the reactionary trends for social-issues and they’re the ones fighting on one side versus the antifa (who, admittedly, are extremists just the same) in Berkeley, and the psyop/counter-psyop on the Internet.

            Silicon Valley bro culture and the not so subtle distaste for women and minorities in geek culture in general. Or just existing in society and daring to not take their abuse (or at the very least, say ouch when they get kicked in the teeth). Gamergate wasn’t a boomer thing. MRAs tend to run the gamut from 18-year-old frat boys to 30ish millennials.

            There’s a professor in Toronto named Jordan Peterson who is transphobic as all get-out. He’s a martyr for “free speech” and a rock star with a massive cult following through his YouTube videos and lectures. His followers — many of them former students of his, and people of same age — are trying to recruit him to run for the Tories leadership in 2021, and want him to defeat their mortal enemy “Tr*nny Trudeau” in 2023. The MAGA bro cult hates women who aren’t submissive sex dolls and hates LGBT altogether, having only tenuously given tolerance to Milo because of his willingness to piss off their greater enemy: feminists and racial minorities.

            Generation Identitaire is a strong coalition of millennial Le Pen voters. The Identitarians have a significant following elsewhere in Europe. Then, of course, there’s their like-minded cohorts in Russia. There are college-aged kids and even teenagers who are holding gay men hostage in Chechnya and killing them.

            There’s literally a “Putin Youth” movement, and it’s actually called that. There’s no verbatim term for the Trump (of the Will) Youth, but they’re not an insignificant sliver of the population and they’re not going away. Nor will they “grow up” anytime soon.

            They may get mad at the “RINO establishment” for favoring Wall Street over Main Street, but at the end of the day it’s just going to be a yuge Jewish Rothschild conspiracy to them and nothing to do with their hero, Hair Trump.

            This isn’t going to be over when the last of the olds dies off. The millennials will get older, and they’ll teach their children to hate, just like their parents taught them and so on.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZ8yOFFbAc

          • mancityRed6

            I’m still going with my theory that it’s a dwindling minority. It’s like watching sand in an hourglass, only it takes longer for it to get down to nothing. soon, it will be as such.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        Good God, what monsters they are, for reals.

        • mancityRed6

          “I got mine, fuck you.”

          • proudgrampa

            ^THIS^

          • Pilotshark

            We Got Ours,, We Want Yours, Fuck You All!

            brought to you by your republican and 1% representatives.

    • kaydenpat

      Trump’s regime has given them the chance to grab as many dimes as they can. It’s all about the 1%-ers.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    Just because it’s my weekend. And wine. And I like this song.

    https://youtu.be/LODkVkpaVQA

    • Stranded Devonian Lungfish

      My lovely young cousin had this played at her funeral. We all laughed and danced, as she would have wanted.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Damn. You have my most sincere sympathy.

  • cats530

    “Start hoarding gold, ammunition, and Beanie Babies now, kids,”

    Don’t forget to hoard buckets of Jim Bakkers’ tasty freeze-dried vittles too! Only $135 for a 50-day supply! But wait….there’s more! If you order now…

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      I don’t want more. What would I use it for other than to regrout my bathroom?

      • cats530

        It’s great for texturing drywall and it comes in colors, so you don’t have to paint. Has all the toxic chemicals that Chinese drywall has too.

      • Jennifer R

        Stack enough buckets up and build your own “edible” Vault!

  • Chris

    Everyone should contact their Rep. and Sen, and ask them about Kansas. Kansas is proof positive that every economic idea the Republicans have is less functional than fortune cookie fortune.

    • DainBramage

      And less fun in bed.

      • mancityRed6

        as a resident of, I concur.

      • pstockholm

        You’re trying to get me to imagine how fun fortune cookies are in bed, aren’t you?

        • DainBramage

          That’s how the cookie crumbles, in bed.

  • sw19covfefe

    Teeny tiny cupcake Andorra (a Spanish principality, I think?) just beat Hungary 1-0 in the World Soccer Cup Qualifications of Football Group Eleventy (European Subsection).
    To say they were happy is an understatement. They, like San Marino and other made up ‘countries’ are the perennial whipping boys of these sorts of qualifying groups.
    I would also venture to suggest that Andorra were a little bit under the cosh all game.
    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40229601
    Good job, Andorra!

    • mackafritz

      They are a co-principality of France and Spain.

      • sw19covfefe

        Aha! Thanks. All I knew was that both countries used to pop over on day trips for their duty free. :)

    • Msgr_MΩment
    • UnsaltedSinner

      All credit to Andorra, but I’d like to mention that the Faeroe Islands (pop.50,000) are currently ahead of Norway in the FIFA ranking. In their first qualifying match ever, in 1990, they beat Austria 1-0. That match was played in Sweden, because there were no grass pitches in the islands back then.

      • sw19covfefe

        The Faroe Islands have actually pulled off some decent results in recent years. I think they’ve been taking tips from Iceland.

        • UnsaltedSinner

          Like Iceland, they’re very impressive considering their tiny population. As for San Marino, they did at least score their first away goal in 15 years in a qualifier in Norway last year. Norwegian commentators didn’t like it…

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vtIErna5Rk

  • Jim Gormley

    Gawd-fucking dammit! Once again the bastards show who they truly represent…I can hear that whooshing sound already.

  • Paperless Tiger

    How Short Was My Memory, now playing.

  • cats530

    The books “The Best Way To Rob A Bank Is To Own One,” “All The Devils Are Here,” “Liar’s Poker,” “E-Conned” will all be enjoying another round of popularity after the GOP enables the banksters again.

  • kaydenpat

    Just another move to help out their rich friends. Republicans are so transparent when it comes to which Americans they give a dang about.

  • Claire

    God, I really need to get moving and switch my accounts over to a credit union.

    • DainBramage

      You won’t regret it.

    • jesterpunk

      Credit unions are so much better and much nicer then commercial banks.

    • Jennifer R

      Me also too.

    • Alan

      Small independent banks are okay too if you don’t have a CU convenient.

    • sw19covfefe

      I moved to Vancity, a credit union, for Canada – after the bank fucked me over, despite my putting hundreds of thousands of dollars through them in the space of 3 years.
      I also switched to Nationwide, a building society (same thing, basically) in the UK back in 2006.
      IMHO far superior service to regular banks, whatever country you’re in.

    • cats530

      As a Wells-Fraudgo customer of 22 years (my own damn fault), I say, “MOVE!” Really, you’ll be glad you did. I don’t regret it a bit. I’m also not contributing to these bullshit debit/credit float games trying to overdraw me, supporting drug-money laundering or foreclosure frauds.

      • Three Finger Salute

        In Putin America, Wells Fargo rob stagecoach of you!

      • Gigglesnort

        Wells Fargo used to be considered the “good bank.” Didn’t even need to be bailed out in 2008-9. Then it came out that they were opening new accounts for their customers without their knowledge or permission, and were revealed to be greedy bastards just like the rest, although even that sin doesn’t quite get them up to the level of Goldman, which managed to screw over even other banks, hedge funds, governments, etc.

    • Proud Liberal

      You will love a credit union! Do it!

  • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent
    • Ryan Denniston

      You mean tapppes.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Vladimir Vladimirovich Tepes.

  • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

    Fuckerty fucking fuckers.

    I will be working until I’m 90.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Assuming you’ll even get there if you can’t afford healthcare and/or your job gets automated out of existence. Or any of us survives the next 10-20 years without sinking into the ocean/dying of smog-induced cancer.

      • AJ Milne

        See, that whole ‘you might die early’ thing you’re flogging, it’s just giving me in-all-probability-false hope.

        Stop that.

    • Joke’s on you, you’ll be dead long before then!

    • Proud Liberal

      Yeah, me too.

      • Chris

        Nah, without decent healthcare you won’t live that long. It all works out.

  • DainBramage

    The Rethugs intellectual leader says,
    https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder461/58150461.jpg

  • jesterpunk

    So they want to kill off any regulations or anything that can help the middle class save money, retire or buy a house. They also want to kill the ACA and their new plan saves billions by assuming more people will die earlier. When exactly do they help the poor or middle class?

    • sw19covfefe

      But, on a positive note, they protect you from EMAILS!!!!!!!

    • DainBramage

      Never.

    • Claire

      They’ve largely stopped even pretending that they’re going to. But we only have two major parties in the US, and if you want to join the Democrats you have to check your dreams of a white theocratic patriarchy at the door, so there’s no one else for their voters to vote for.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      But if you’ve been pious and holy, and never had dinner with any harlot women but Mother, you’ll get to Heaven that much quicker!

      YOU’RE WELCOME!

  • AJ Milne

    Re ‘…what part of Big Banks Own The Trump Administration don’t you understand?’

    Oh no. They totes love ‘the little guy’*. They said!

    … also, when they say sure baby, this is love, I’ll call you, they always mean it.

    (/Tho’, possibly, what they meant was ‘we love the little guy on toast’. Technically, they didn’t specify.)

  • proudgrampa

    Well, call me an optimist. “You’re an optimist!”

    Call me a Pollyanna. “You’re a Pollyanna!”

    But I think these are still the Good Old Days:

    https://youtu.be/PDJ_Mz8ftqI

  • Rick Hill
    • sw19covfefe
      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        “YOU CANNOT HAVE! IT MADE OF WARMS! MINE!”

        • Chris

          Cats + Laptop = why you disable 1 click Amazon shopping. Personal experience.
          Puff: Cat libelz, it was the raccoons. If she would just stop feeding that homeless cat wet food things would go more smoothly around here and in her bank account. Don’t get me started on Bleach Kitty! She was only supposed to be here for a few days and it has been 9 years! 9 years I’ve had to put up with that scrawny thing!

      • Proud Liberal

        Dang cute!

    • proudgrampa

      Oh. What a cute puppy!

    • Proud Liberal

      Cute as hell!

    • Three Finger Salute

      Infinity x better than Windows 10.

    • WY_cryptid

      I have a four year old neighbor who stands at the door… “are you still working, can I pet your dog again, how come your kids are at work, don’t your kids work with you, are you still working…” the only reprieve is when I giver her an Otter Pop.

  • Lyly Sirivong
    • sw19covfefe

      Pro Tip: Pick the one that uses the nicest font. :)

      • Miles Monroe

        … and avoid like the plague anyone who uses more than two fonts.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    Wow – Raw Story is reporting CNN is firing Reza Aslan for his curse tweet and cheetolini.

    • Proud Liberal

      Well that’s just fucking stupid.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Well remember, wingnuts can hurl invective, slurs and threats and always keep their jobs bloviating on TV. But anyone who isn’t a wingnut utters even the mildest criticism and they are turfed.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        yup, that’s about what the raw story piece said.

      • Three Finger Salute

        He’s a Muslim isn’t he? Maybe they turfed him to avoid Dump firing a MOAB over Dearborn.

    • Vecchioivan

      Shame on him for failing to live up to the standard of decorum set by the Pussgrabber-in-Chief.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Well to be fair Brook Baldwin went all “fainting” couch on Gillibrand’s use of the f word today.

    • Erala Contratista

      “Raw Story”?

      Weak

      Pathetic

      Silly to the full limit of the law.

  • Mavenmaven

    Will Wonkette be once again offering hobo beans?

    • sw19covfefe

      And getting their usual lucrative kickback, no doubt! Wonkette has long been in the knapsack of Big Hobo.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        I thought it was Big Bean™

        • sw19covfefe

          Ah, the biggest casualty of the Great Bean War of 1973.
          Bought up by Enron. Now a subsidiary of Mondelez International IIRC.

        • Chris

          Big Bean! Powered the charge up San Juan Hill.

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        Watch your mouth or trix will knock you with her bindle stick!

    • Me not sure
    • tomamitai

      I like how the “artist” who put it there claimed he made it look shitty on purpose, but didn’t provide any evidence that he’s ever made a non-shitty sculpture.

    • Chris

      The dog is peeing on the girl but it isn’t anti-woman. Perish the thought!
      I don’t go looking for misogyny under every rock but geez..(insert random cuss words here) this is ridiculous.

  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    *Looks at photo*

    That’s a new twist on “drain the swamp”

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    This is how they got Bill Clinton…given His Orangeness’ penchant for lying, I encourage this:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e561666bd3c4adf65e280df097b30478b4da5441cb49566d2cc3b4b44f9a2268.png

  • Ron and I are across the bridge in Windsor right now, making our way to da partay!

    • msanthropesmr

      ATTACK OF THE CANADIANS!

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Have a great Time! And DR is adorable, Trix is awesome, and Shy is very sweet.

    • Yr. Gma

      My not-so-law-abiding father knew of a couple of ways to bypass the bridge and still get over into the States without having to stop at the checkpoints. One of them I remember as a little kid scared the hell out of me because we were driving on something I think had tracks. Probably can’t do that anymore.

    • Three Finger Salute

      From a ‘Murricane.

      Living next door to you is like dancing with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every skinnamarink and dink and dink.

      (Soory, Pierre.)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEEsX69iIxY

      • LucindathePook

        Went to school with Bram ‘s brother Pete.

        • Three Finger Salute

          I was sad to find out Lois has since passed away of cancer :(

          God, I loved Nickelodeon when it was mostly CanCon.

  • PubOption

    Somewhat related. I just received a renewal notice for my house insurance. It mentioned that it didn’t get the best rate because of (reasons that were formed from recognizable words but didn’t seem to make sense). I went to a specified website to decode these statements and discovered that I didn’t have enough charge accounts. People trying to live within their means are obviously bad risks.

    • Jennifer R

      Yup, fuck the poor and those that don’t have a bunch of credit cards.

      • Bitter Scribe

        My credit line got cut from $8,000 to $3,000 because I didn’t use my card enough. It was no big deal–I never charge more than a few hundred bucks at a time–but I was still like, WTF?

        • sw19covfefe

          I’ve been slowly building up my Canadian credit score via my credit union here.
          Vancity have been great in helping make sure I ‘tick all the boxes’.
          I wasted almost 4 years as a customer of CIBC, who couldn’t give a fuck about me… despite the $$$ hundreds of thousands of activity. No credit card, sorry – “what do you want one of them for?”.
          You have to find someone willing to explain what set of rules to the game you’re being asked to play.

        • Jennifer R

          There are formulas that tell the lenders how much money to figure you have as real income based on how much you use your card. They don’t want you to have a huge credit line if they think you only have a meager income.

    • sw19covfefe

      You are considered a ‘bad risk’/low credit score because they’re not making any money out of you.
      That doesn’t make you a bad person. It makes them a bad (corporate) person.

    • I once had a home improvement loan cancelled right smack in the middle of the home improvement because EVIL Bank of America decided I lived in s ‘High Risk’ area. It was a very rural area of Tennessee and my closest neighbor was about a mile away.

      The deer were pretty bold and there was a sizable coyote and bobcat population so I guess I deserved what I got.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      What is wrong with you? Everyone knows that you aren’t worth anything until you are worth negative amounts of money.

    • Erala Contratista

      Our credit card company. considers us deadbeats. We hardly use it and pay it in full.

      Heh

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Okay, survived the end of the work week. Now we bounce!

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    WOOD SHACKS FOR EVERYONE!!!!!

  • jesterpunk

    Sen. Ron Johnson (R- comcast) is another person who doesnt understand how the internet works.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/06/the-internet-needs-paid-fast-lanes-anti-net-neutrality-senator-says/

  • Bitter Scribe

    So how am I going to get fucked over financially?

    1) The ACA will be repealed and my health insurance premiums will go up at least $600 a month.
    2) My IRA will disappear in a puff of deregulated speculative smoke.
    3) Social Security will be gutted.
    4) Medicare will be gutted.
    5) All of the above.

    Maybe I should pay off my mortgage now, so I’ll have a place to eat my cat food. Until I can no longer afford the property tax.

    • Yr. Gma

      Taxes can’t be paid in cat food?

      • Bitter Scribe

        Maybe when our New Cat Overlords take over.

        • sw19covfefe

          I for one….

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            … welcome Dear Leader Grumpy Cat.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Maybe Garfield will throw out his evil twin Barfield, and put the whole sham administration in crates and ship them to Abu Dhabi.

        • Chris

          You do not want Puff taking over. She keeps records of everything.

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          You know that they are just going to eat us.

          • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

            “Can I eat your eyeballs out of respect? Also too, I’m hungry.”
            – Your cat

    • biologydave

      And my anger management counselor wonders why I’m depressed and have anxiety.

    • Reximus

      It’s simple…just run and win your local Congressional seat…problem solved-
      Just beleeeeeeeve you can

      You’re welcome,
      Regards,
      Tim Robbins

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      You could also have student loans that will follow you and your family beyond the grave too, so there’s that…

      • Three Finger Salute

        Reason #16,777,216 why I opted not to have children. Once I’m dead and my parents too, the bank will just have to write off a loss.

        • Up In Smoke O’hontas

          Don’t worry, they’ll get a bailout anyway.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Works out nicely then. I break even at $0, don’t have to suffer the indignity of criminalized poverty, and the banks get everything.

            Isn’t that how it’s all going to end anyway?

      • Bitter Scribe

        Yeah, I got lucky there. My parents, God rest their souls, paid for every dollar of my (quite expensive) education. My sister’s too.

        I can’t imagine how the kids today can possibly function with five-figure student debt. This is what enrages me when I read about pajama-boy Peter Pan millennials (or Gen Z, whatever) living with their parents who won’t grow up and get married because they’re so immature and selfish. Attention smug assholes: It’s hard for people to do that when they’re facing a shitty job market and horrific income inequality, while saddled with (government-backed) undischargeable loans, all thanks to policies that you helped put into place.

    • Red Bird Ω

      I’m running through the same list.

  • BadKitty904

    Poor whites who lose their homes and savings blame Obama in 5…4…3…

    • Three Finger Salute

      “He’s sending us to FEMA camps!”

      “They’re taking our homes for ‘reparations’ to ‘his people’!”

      “It’s the Islamic jizya tax!”

      “We’re being annexed by Canada!”

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Maybe we took “economic anxiety” wrong. Those Trump voters wanted to have economic anxiety, not get rid of it.

    • Proud Liberal

      I’m pretty they are getting their way.

  • janecita

    Man, I feel bad for future president Kirsten Gillibrand, she is going to be cleaning up Trump’s and Co mess for years to come!

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Yeah, but she won’t be president because Brook Baldwin was upset that she said “fuck” a couple times in a speech.

      • janecita

        Fucking Brooke Baldwin, can go fuck herself! Fucking lame, prudish fuck!

        • Everrett Fanuelli

          Even Dana Bash was like “Bitch Please!”

      • Explody Brain

        I really don’t understand the outrage at words. WORDS.

        Words that aren’t pejorative toward anyone. They’re basically markers to show people when they should be paying attention.

        Especially white the GOP is fucking us with actions.

        Edited: Meant “while,” but I think it works this way.

  • tomamitai

    Best.
    Investment.
    Advice.
    EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://youtu.be/qsMc-IswG3w

  • UnsaltedSinner
  • AnnieGetYerFun

    God damn it all. I knew I should have started farming this year.

    • Anna Rompage

      It’s never too late, you can still plant a crop that’ll be ready in the late summer, early fall…

      I just planted my peppers & cukes a week or so ago

      • Shanzgood

        My soil has too much clay.

        • Anna Rompage

          You can import good soil and do raised beds, or even do container farming!…

          • Shanzgood

            There’s also a Dillons a block away.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        Yeah? I was feeling really down because I planted a million wildflowers a while back and only now are some of the little fuckers popping out of the ground, as sprouts.

  • Jamoche

    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/337192-nearly-20-million-watched-comeys-testimony-on-tv
    “Nearly 20 million watched Comey’s testimony on TV”

    Ooh, high TV ratings. That hits Donnie where it hurts.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Yeah, but CNN told me that Americans don’t care about Russia because it doesn’t affect their daily lives.

      • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

        I think it was Mara Liasson on NPR saying something like that, “50 miles outside DC and nobody cares.”

        Oh, okay. Those bars with Comey Happy Hours were all in your imagination, too!

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          I had no idea there were 20 million people in DC

          • marxalot

            At 5:05 on the Red Line, you’d believe it.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            “Red line train to Shady Grove or 10th Ring of Hell”

        • YoBunnyBunny

          Yet somehow they were all besotted with Hillary’s email…. strange.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            Their economic anxiety made them very worried about State Department recordkeeping practices.

    • Raan

      Just as a point of comparison, that’s about 2/3rds of the viewership of Bumblefuck’s inauguration (according to Snopes and Nielsen).

      If you getting rekt on stream gets two-thirds of the audience who watched you take office, how fucked does that make you?

    • Claire

      It looks like that’s just on TV, too. I wonder what the count is when you include streaming.

  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    I guess the Republicans took stock of how well America’s short-term memory was working, and decided “fuck it, I think they’re all comatose, LETS GET THOSE SKIP LOADERS IN TO THE TREASURY!”

  • Juan de Fuca

    Trump’s “I’ll provide more information in the very near future” is the new “I’ll talk with the wife about it and let you know.”

  • ManchuCandidate

    But her emails!

    • Three Finger Salute

      Butter emails led to a stolen election within the margarine of error. I Canola-nger sit quietly while anyone denies this.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    OT, everyone, but I have had to slap down SO MUCH MANSPLAINING today from someone who I think might be about as smart as Trey Gowdy.

    • ManchuCandidate

      So you’re saying he’s incredibly fucking stupid.

      • MynameisBlarney

        That is an insult to incredibly stupid people.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        AND an asshole.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Good gawd y’all! That must have hurt your brain.

  • UnsaltedSinner

    The manager of Donald’s “blind trust”.

    https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/873289403388624897

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      He loves pediatric cancer? No wonder he’s funneling money through his charity. Everyone needs to ask “Why does Eric Trump hate kids?”

      • UnsaltedSinner

        Crap, I didn’t even notice that blooper. I focused on the “when we are out of politics” part.

      • Raan

        I would ask that question, but it would open the door for “I’m being persecuted over a typo” as a defense.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      He looks like a guy who loves pediatric cancer TBH.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      click through tot he link – mother of child cancer survivor says teh “attack” on eric is shameful…

      NO STEALING FROM CANCER KIDS IS SHAMEFUL.

      Apologies for the yelling.

  • georgiaburning

    How does loosening banking regulations help the economy grow long term? Loose rules and big banks crashed Japan in the early 1990’s and they still have not completely recovered. We spent 800 billion dollars to bail out the banks in 2008, what will be the bill next time?

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      It helps the only economy Republicans care about: Rich White ones

      • delete your account probably

        It doesn’t, though.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          “Are you saying Saint Ronald was wrong? Heathen! BURN THE WITCH!”

          • AnnieGetYerFun

            Hang on a sec! Did we check to see if she floats?

          • Bobathonic

            Build a bridge out of her.

    • Three Finger Salute

      It helps the bank accounts of fat cats grow exponentially. It also produces a cottage industry of supercops and supermax facilities locking up desperate people for stealing loaves of bread and sleeping rough.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Just remember: “the economy” = “the 1%”

    • not_vh

      free enterprise brings competition and makes markets efficient*. in the process of making these markets efficient if lives are destroyed so be it.

      *having said that, rofl.

  • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly

    OT

    Katie, bar the door and pass the popcorn.

    FBI Notified After Mitch McConnell Exposed In $2.5M Money Funnel Connected To Putin

    Many Republicans have been extremely hesitant about supporting the investigation into the connections between President Trump’s campaign and Russia. It seems, though, that their reasoning for this resistance has less to do with their faith in Trump and more to do with their eagerness to hide their own Russia ties.

    Thanks to the hard work of Democratic pundit Scott Dworkin, it’s beginning to look like every Republican politician has some kind of link to Russia.

    More at the above link.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      So say we all… and yet the hallway is empty….

      • not_vh

        the hall itself has a lorry-full of people.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      A lot of very disappointed women on that day. :-(

    • Miles Monroe

      Something’s wrong with that sign, but we just can’t put our finger on it …

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    Dok – the last line of that was so evocative. I am truly impressed….

    • not_vh

      Dont forget to click on the recommended button. Every time you click on that a fascist bastard gets a mosquito bite.

  • bookish

    Questions of Trump intent, and competence.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-incompetence-defense/529770/?utm_source=nl-politics-daily-060917

    On the surface, the argument for exculpatory ineptitude may seem absurd; if you try to rob a bank, and you slip on a banana peel and knock yourself out, you have still attempted to rob a bank. But the argument that Trump simply didn’t try hard enough to shut down the Flynn investigation is exactly the argument that a defense attorney might make if they were defending a client against an accusation of obstruction of justice, because it attacks the idea that there’s sufficient evidence to support the charge.

    The question of intent is ultimately more important than whether or not Trump got what he wanted.

    “If an actor has corrupt intent, any act intended to obstruct justice is enough, whether or not it succeeds,” said Bruce Green, a former associate counsel in the Iran-Contra affair and a law professor at Fordham. “But the Senators’ point here may be that you can’t infer from President Trump’s acts that he was trying to derail the investigation, because if he really wanted to do so, he could have done so more effectively.”

    • Jamoche

      “he could have done so more effectively.”

      Like, say, firing the dude when he wouldn’t take a hint?

    • Raan

      That argument implies that Shitswizzle is capable of doing anything effectively.

      • miss_grundy

        But he can effectively scam people out of money using his licensing deals…..

  • marxalot

    Things I tried actually worked today, I am full of end of the week suspicion and relief in just about equal measure.

  • Truck Fump
    • Jennifer R

      The kittens bunny hop.

    • Three Finger Salute

      It seems like the bunnies just kind of hang in the background, befuddled and wondering “what are these big things pretending they’re us while hopping on each other”?

      • marxalot

        “They smell funny, and I’m not sure they really understand how to use their, you know, legs. Cute try though”

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      can’t get enough hopping kittehs.

      “Are we doing it right!?”

  • Marceline

    Time for the Friday Obama. This time eight years ago we were mired in the first of many scandals of the Obama presidency: Mustardgate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd9u36lfxrU

    • Canis Greyhame

      Oh my god, spicy mustard? Such an elitist.

  • miss_grundy

    Honestly, these people never learn from history. Or do they just suffer from selective memory loss?

    • Jamoche

      “Sure, most people went broke on Black Tuesday, but a few lucky people timed it just right to get rich!”

      • Miles Monroe

        “… but a few lucky connected people …”

        FIFY! ;-)

    • not_vh

      they love the good old times when oliver had to ask for more.

    • TJ Barke

      What do they care? They’ll make their money and move to some non ruined country.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I’ve always thought it’s going to be ironic when they all end up in France paying 50% in income taxes after they’ve bled this country dry;

    • jesterpunk

      First Collector: At this festive time of year, Mr. Scrooge, it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the poor and destitute.

      Ebenezer: Are there no prisons?

      First Collector: Plenty of prisons.

      Ebenezer: And the union workhouses – are they still in operation?

      First Collector: They are. I wish I could say they were not.

      Ebenezer: Oh, from what you said at first I was afraid that something had happened to stop them in their useful course. I’m very glad to hear it.

      First Collector: I don’t think you quite understand us, sir. A few of us are endeavoring to buy the poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth.

      Ebenezer: Why?

      First Collector: Because it is at Christmastime that want is most keenly felt, and abundance rejoices. Now what can I put you down for?

      Ebenezer: Huh! Nothing!

      Second Collector: You wish to be anonymous?

      Ebenezer: [firmly, but calmly] I wish to be left alone. Since you ask me what I wish sir, that is my answer. I help to support the establishments I have named; those who are badly off must go there.

      First Collector: Many can’t go there.

      Second Collector: And some would rather die.

      • sw19covfefe

        Cool story bro.

      • Three Finger Salute

        You know that story is fiction because he realized the error of his ways.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        You spelled “Paul Ryan” wrong …

        • jesterpunk

          It would apply to any other rethuglican congress critter too,

    • Jennifer R

      They assume that they won’t be personally harmed and simply don’t care about anyone else.

      • sw19covfefe

        Ipso facto. The empathy gap in conservative-minded people is what makes them conservatives.

        • Raan

          Maybe we need to make being able to pass the Voight-Kampf test a prerequisite for elected office.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Jon Voight and Mein Kampf?

          • sw19covfefe

            Never a good mix.

          • Raan
          • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

            Mitch McConnell lays on his back, his belly baking in the hot sun, beating his legs trying to turn himself over.

            But he can’t. Not without your help.

            But you’re not helping.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            “Tortoise?”

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        That’s why I’m really hoping the GOP fucks EVERYONE this time around by cutting SS and Medicare. Let the idiots who vote for them have a turn at getting fucked by Republicans, because I’m sick of all the screwing winning they’ve been doing to me.

  • Duke

    The rabid morans in the House GOP are still playing obstructionists and passing legislation that make meaningful gestures to their rabid primary voters. They know it’s DOA in the Senate.

    So many house members are in “safe” districts that their real opposition comes from primary opponents. The primary voters are the excitable zealots and they want this red meat.

    The Senate, with every race being state-wide and without gerrymandering, is more moderate as they have to win in the general election.

    I’m sure there’s a Republican think-tank, somewhere, trying to figure out how to re-draw the state maps.

    • jowgajen

      AHCA doesn’t seem so DOA right now. I’m not sure conventional wisdom re: how crazy the Senate isn’t holds anymore.

    • Jennifer R

      Ossoff picking up Price’s ruby red seat would put a tiny bit of the fear of the electorate in to some of the house people, but the question is will enough of them get scared off from voting for a bill a second time that is basically the same thing they did the first time?

  • WotsAllThisThen

    The 2008 economic collapse was followed by a massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the very rich. They’d like another one, please.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Look for the second-helpers.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      They pissed away a lot of money on losing candidates so they need some fresh Ameros to buy the next batch.

      • jesterpunk

        Republicans are pretty cheap, you could buy one from Tennessee for $10,000 and make a lot of money from it.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          Bless their hearts.

        • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

          Pick up a Florida AG while you’re at it! I hear they’re darn cheap too.

          • jesterpunk

            Can I get a 2 for 1 deal on them? I would even take one from Alabama if I have to.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Those come with a free cuckoo clock as well, if I am not mistaken.

    • Anna Rompage

      It’s been 8 years or so, & the middle class should have recovered by now, so why not?

      • marxalot

        It’s like agriculture! But for bandits!

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I will never recover financially, but I was just starting to feel better last fall. I thought with Clinton in office we’d have 8 ,more years of financial stability, but the rubes said “wouldn’t it be more exciting to elect an unqualified, incompetent, buffoon, instead?” Sure, it’s going to be a LOT more exciting, but just not in a good way.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          I only lost my house, car(s), friends, great neighborhood, cool stuff, fun vacations, great gifts, oh yeah, and my marriage and my son’s mental stability.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Well that seems like a small price for you to pay, so that the Koch brothers could have a few more billion dollars. Why are you so selfish? Why can’t you think about anyone besides yourself, snowflake?

            //I am genuinely sorry for all of your loses. I know many similar stories. I guess I’m lucky in that I only lost every dime I ever had.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      and they’re gonna get it…

    • marxalot

      Yeah, turns out some got left behind! Pure oversight. They should be able to turn over the couch cushions and get into the piggie banks with this next sweep.

    • Rick Hill

      Guess who got a big chunk of that cash cow? Some guy who loves a crash because he buys up so many good properties. His name rhymes with fuck trump

  • Claire
  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl
    • proudgrampa

      In my day, we had coal for breakfast, lunch and dinner! And we LIKED it!

      • Me not sure

        I used to shit diamonds.

        • Jon Sussex

          Kudos on your powerful sphincter.

          • Me not sure

            Superman?…Pfffft.

    • Me not sure

      The greenhouse effect of gasses like methane and CO2 were well understood by 1912 and yet we treated these prescient voices like Cassandras.

      • Three Finger Salute

        The jocks took over. Mechanists have never been popular. Hurr durr, nerds.

  • ariel_gee_398

    I guess CNN felt it’s audience was getting too well-informed: https://twitter.com/jessicajackley/status/873304881662054400

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      But Lewandowski and Lord are still there

      FUCK YOU, CNN

      • Everrett Fanuelli

        Don’t forget balloon headed Jason Miller

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          and Wormtongue Conway

    • SayItWithWookies

      When two-and-a-half million Russian twitterbots speak up, CNN listens.

  • sw19covfefe
  • yyyaz

    So, the next financial crisis will make the last one look like a paper cut, bankrupting every country and forcing them into adopting “austerity” budgets for the next 20, 30, 50 years. That’ll teach those commie Nordics, Canadians and Europeans with their filthy soshulizms!

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Did anyone else notice that Trump said he “hardly knew” James Comey when the press asked about the loyalty thing? Can he please come up with some better bullshit answers! We’ve already heard that one before.

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      They only hung out 9 times. It’s not like they were in the same frat…

  • Raan

    Since it’s the open thread, I have a minor confession to make.

    I’m opposed to having a household smoke detector in the kitchen.

    • Jamoche

      Especially combined with an under-the-microwave smoke hood. Damn useless.

    • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

      That’s our dinner bell.

    • proudgrampa

      Seriously. I had to take mine out!

  • Elvis Causticfellow

    Today was the first real summer summery day in NYC and I’ve been noticing these exotic life forms newly inhabiting the streets. They’re purty and have appealing bulges here and there and they’re not all wrapped up in layers of fabric. I think they’re called “wimmenz.”

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Thanks purity ponies- because Hillary giving a couple speeches is EXACTLY the same as the blatant, systemic pillaging of the treasury we’re about to see

    #bothsidesdoit #crookedhillary #makeamericabankruptagain

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Look, someone might have wanted to FOIA all of Hillary’s emails about The Good Wife someday and her sloppy recordkeeping practices would have denied them that crucial information.

  • Granny Sprinkles

    This gives me fond memories of the fine fellow who, after explaining at length that Barack Obama and Elizabeth Warren know nothing, assured me that the passage of Dodd-Frank in 2010 caused the financial crisis of 2008.

    Tell me again how liberals are bad for not taking these numpties seriously.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Boy I hope we get a dust bowl when the economy collapses!

    • MynameisBlarney

      Just like old times.

      • Everrett Fanuelli

        “Grapes of Wrath 2: Electric Boogaloo!”

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          The Grapening

          • MynameisBlarney

            *The Engrapening*

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      How about a half eaten taco bowl?

    • ahughes798

      Half of California would die of bigotry if any Oklahomans came their way.

      • bookish

        You kidding? Everybody here in the Central Valley is 2nd generation Oakies and Arkies and the rest are Hispanic.

        • ahughes798

          In Stockton, and the surrounding area, being called an Oakie is a slur.

          • bookish

            I know it used to be a slur. My mother was not allowed to go to school, because migrant white trash.

          • ahughes798

            It’s alive and well. Hear it every time I go out there, a whole lot. Maybe it’s dying out, I hope. I took my sister along with me to see my therapist. She really liked him. She did most of the talking! When we got up to leave, I said, You feel a little better? Good! Because you just spent the last hour spilling your guts to an Oakie.

          • bookish

            Point.

        • Yr. Gma

          Ever read “Grapes of Wrath”?

    • Three Finger Salute

      No weed bowl? Not even a cereal bowl?

  • Gary Charound

    Walking down the street today, I passed some people pushing a dog in a baby stroller. Being the polite sort, I refrained from any sarcastic remark. What would a nasty, vile snarketeer have said?

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      “Takes after her father, I see.”

      • msanthropesmr

        “Jesus, that is one ugly baby”

        • msanthropesmr

          “if my dog were that ugly, I’d shave it’s ass and teach it to walk backward.”

          • msanthropesmr

            “Glad to see the fertility treatments worked out.”

    • Explody Brain

      Were they homeless? I volunteer with the homeless and have noticed that a lot tend to keep their dogs in strollers. I haven’t asked about it. A surprising number of the dogs are official service animals.

      So, maybe no snark?

      • Gary Charound

        Not these people. This is a very wealthy town. I kept my mouth shut anyway, because who knows?

        • Yr. Gma

          A wealthy town with no homeless people? Not San Francisco, then, I guess.

    • bookish

      What a cute doggie! It’s what I always say.

      • Elvis Causticfellow

        I give that an A for outreach and a gentleman’s D for nasty, vile snark.

        • bookish

          I humbly accept.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Nothing. Because I would have busy snarking online.

    • IdiokraticDrumpfenResistance

      I see the dingo aite your baiby.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Probably nothing, because, we support adoption?

    • sw19covfefe

      SEE THIS IS WAT HAPENS WHEN YOU LET THE GAYS MARRY DOGS!?!!THANKS OBAMA!?!!!!MAGA!!!!!

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Well, they DO make strollers now for dogs that can’t walk very far. You push them to the park, they pee, you push them home.

    • msanthropesmr

      “Why did you put your baby in that dog stroller?”

    • janecita

      Cute baby, he looks exactly like his mother!

    • CindyinEncinitas

      I stay away from batty people when at all possible.

      • Three Finger Salute

        even Christian Bale?

        • CindyinEncinitas

          Definitely. I have read on the Internets that he has a bit of a temper.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Oh my. Well, I guess I’ll know to plead the fifth if he ever asks if I like Huey Lewis and the News.

    • puredog

      “Wow, she looks just like you!”

    • Yr. Gma

      Was it one of those strollers made specifically for pets? Maybe the pup had a bum foot or something.

      • Kateaux

        And a pet stroller is a fairly secure way to take a cat out for some fresh air. (If you can stand the extraordinarily foul language from a cat frustrated at being outside but not being free to roam around attacking the neighbors’ dogs and such…)

  • Canis Greyhame

    Sure, why not? He might as well commit perjury under oath, on top of everything else. It’s not like the complicit GOP is going to put country over party any time soon.

    Calling Comey a Liar, Trump Says He Will Testify Under Oath
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/09/us/politics/trump-comey.html

    • Three Finger Salute

      Seems fitting. Comey testified before oafs.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      He’s lying about being willing to testify. The only way it will actually happen is if they drag him kicking and screaming with a subpoena

      • Canis Greyhame

        Oh I don’t know, I could see him sitting there saying, “I did not get peed on by that Russian hooker!” – like a common Bill Clinton.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          I think he’ll make up some BS excuse just like his taxes

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Well, he’ll just lie anyway. Especially if it’s a day ending in y.

      • msanthropesmr

        Just like he lied about never settling.

    • jesterpunk

      GOP interviewing Trump.

      Mr Trump is it true you have the bigliest hands ever?

      Mr Trump is it true that you are the smartest man in the world?

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    Who else is excited about the new season of Orphan Black??

    https://media.giphy.com/media/yitfvT0LrNV5u/giphy.gif

    • Canis Greyhame

      I have a lot of catching up to do.

    • ltmcdies

      I AM….I AM….I AM

      although a bit sad it will be the last season…

    • sw19covfefe

      Haven’t seen any of it yet, but good reviews?

      • janecita

        Dude, watch this show! It’s amazing!

        • sw19covfefe

          Okay, mom!

      • janecita
      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        GO WATCH IT RIGHT NOW MISTER

        • sw19covfefe

          Okay, mom number 2!

      • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

        It is SO fun!

    • janecita

      OMG, so fucking excited!!! That’s my favorite show!!!! Tatiana Maslany is the best actress on the planet!

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Unless I think about it I always forget they’re all the same actress when I’m watching. She’s amazing.

        • ltmcdies

          there’s a story that even Tatiana’s mom didn’t realize who was playing Helena when she was visiting the set.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            I believe it.

        • janecita

          That’s what I always say!

      • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

        Me, too! I love it when she plays one of the Sestras pretending to be one of the othe Sestras. She is amazing.

    • janecita

      Sistra!

    • puredog

      me me me me me! The last season, too!

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        I’m glad they have a chance to wrap it up well.

        • sw19covfefe

          I will probably binge-watch it, once it’s finished.
          Currently working my way through The Blacklist.

  • tinker12
    • GreenGoldSharpie

      Hands are overly large.

    • mardam422

      I’m good…blubb.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    https://youtu.be/x-o3CJytIPE

    Nostalgia for the depression. Awesome.

  • Rick Hill
    • Explody Brain

      WTF is wrong with him?! This is no snark disturbing.

      • TJ Barke

        He, like a large percentage of the wealthy, are soulless amoral sociopaths.

        • Explody Brain

          He’s also apparently too stupid to realize that you shouldn’t let people take pictures of you smirking above the dead animal you just desecrated.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Are you kidding? He’s likely proud of that photo

          • jowgajen

            Congenitally small penis. Got it from his father’s side.

          • Explody Brain

            I think you’re probably right.

      • janecita

        His last name is Trump.

    • jowgajen

      ^THIS^

      I find their big game hunting revolting and vile. Hunt to eat or hunt with a goddam camera; you wasteful, disrespectful, pillager motherfuckers.

    • Miles Monroe

      Fortunately, for some of us, it most definitely does.

    • Three Finger Salute

      The animal-abusing sociopathic Trump Klan keeps wondering why their annoying prank calls to Parliament Hill in Ottawa keep going unanswered. The reason is: they get redirected to the barbaric practices hotline.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Canned hunts – the true marks of virility and masculinity.

      • ZangoCrudmonger

        CANNED CLAMS get more respect than the canned hunt. I hunt, and have been tempted to go to a bird farm and shoot a dozen pheasants for the freezer. It’s kind of how it works, IIRC, you pay for a 10 bird minimum, whether you hit them or not. I’d say as far as birds go, it isn’t the most horrible of hunting, as the Oregon Dept of Wildlife routinely plants such birds on public lands for hunters, so not much of a difference.
        Big game in a fenced ranch, otoh, is like shooting a pet goat.

  • Zippy W Pinhead
    • TJ Barke

      Yes, let’s go back to the policies that have accomplished nothing vis a vis Cuba for the last 60 years, that’ll work!

      • Three Finger Salute

        Who do you think you are, that Justin Castro boy or something?!? Get out of here with your reasoned diplomacy! Drop 50 MOABs on Havana and give me $20!

    • sw19covfefe

      Grifting spineless whore says what?

  • mardam422

    But if we are all free to cheat everyone else, as long as I’m not the last guy on the totem pole…I’M RICH!!!!11

  • Covfefe

    If Donald can survive bankruptcy, what’s a matter with you snowflakes?

    • bookish

      Donald thrives in bankruptcy. His creditors, not so much.

      • Lori

        And his partners not at all.

    • not_vh

      umm, dunno. our mothers didn’t raise us to be that way?

  • Canis Greyhame

    “Gavel the puppy was facing a tough change when he flunked out of police dog academy for being too sociable.”
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-40199557

    • Three Finger Salute
    • TJ Barke

      McCloud!

    • Lori

      Cute puppy!!

    • janecita

      I loved that story, that dog looks so happy in his new “job.”

    • mancityRed6

      that’s what we thought about our pups, too. sure, Middie would bark at the door when people knocked. (they both hated the mail carrier, but I still think Daisy joined in as a way of not feeling left out.)
      then, my boy Ray came to visit for a weekend. and I had to leave for work early and the (ex)wife had to shower.
      as soon as she was behind the door and forgotten, they both started with the barking and growling. Middie from the safety of the bedroom; Daisy snapping and snarling right in front of the door where she had pushed Ray.
      (this was after a day of ball and cuddles on the sofa between the two dogs and him)

    • Vecchioivan

      Diplomatic doggy.

    • Explody Brain

      My cat is jealous at how hard I just sqweeed!

  • Rick Hill

    Don’t forget, trump hisself said that the recession was great because he made a killing buying cheap properties. Don’t forget, trumpheads, as you”re getting kicked to the curb, trump is so smert and rich and he is MAGA

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    So this whole thing about Trump going after Comey and saying there was no loyalty and he has tapes, this also sounds like the M.O. Trump used to pull in the business world with his NDAs, threatening people that he had tapes. I wish the media could do a bit more in depth analysis of how this douche is basically doing the same shit he did in his business

    • jesterpunk

      I want congress to force him to turn over that tape, once he admits he tapes everything then they can start asking for all of them either with subpoenas or just with the presidential records act.

  • Lizzietish81

    Meanwhile, Breitbart has lost most of its advertisers.

    http://jezebel.com/breitbarts-lost-over-2-200-advertisers-1795947147

    • mancityRed6

      they’re pushing “covefefe” coffee mugs on their store, how much sadder can it get?
      *rubs hands with glee*

      • Lizzietish81

        Guac Bowles?

        • mancityRed6

          I want to make a Cernovich and popcorn joke but I just can’t make it work.
          tRump made a typo and then “passed out” for 5 hours before he deleted it and no one is taking it seriously.
          *rant over*

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        People are beginning to realize the results of dumb shit disinformation.

        • sw19covfefe

          CNN seem to be trying to take over the demographic. :/

          • Three Finger Salute

            Rural sprawl?

        • shivaskeeper

          If it’s just the advertisers, they are realizing it might not be a sound idea to alienate the actual people who can pay for products in favor of meth addicted online racists, sexists, conspiracy theorists, and fucking Nazis.

          Even if it’s only about the bottom line, I’m OK with it.

    • shivaskeeper

      Much like the dead asshole from Robyn’s article, all I can say is, good.

    • Three Finger Salute
    • not_vh

      nice.

      always remember this guy started with a deficit of 2.9 million popular vote.

    • Pisto75666

      The free market is a beautiful thing.

    • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

      Lovely!

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Great piece in our local arts and entertainment rag about capturing Rep. Martha McSallly on tape at a private luncheon bragging to a bunch of out-of-state bankers about shitcanning Dodd-Frank, then going on to bitterly whinge like a colicky toddler about how badly she gets treated by her constituents.

    The luncheon menu included steamed proles with butter, peasants au gratin, serf salad, and Coors Light.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      TW FTW! And the story is going viral, making national news- stick a fork in her, she’s done

      • sw19covfefe

        She’ll probably receive an election bump, sad to say.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          It’s more or less a moderate blue-dog district, with a crazy leftie fringe where Zippy and I live.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Even the rural republicans won’t be happy about her sucking up to the bankers

          • sw19covfefe
          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Dems have been in disarray since Giffords was shot. Her replacement was a charmless quisling, then we got caught up in an internecine fight between two reasonable but not inspirational candidates in the ’16 primary.

          • sw19covfefe

            Ah the good old circular firing squad. God bless.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Ron Barber is a quite likable person who really has a good heart, but he was a shit politician who always managed to side with the GOP in a futile attempt to “reach across the aisle” and try to placate the right. He didn’t get a bit of credit from them for it and managed to piss off the entire left in the process. He had no business being in office- all he ever accomplished was being one of those rare Dem House votes on important issues that allowed all the TeeVee talking heads to pontificate about how it must be “bipartisan”, when in reality he’d just sold us out- think Obama’s first year or two of “outreach” times a thousand

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            I second everything you just said.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            I think Matt Heinz was a victim of the wave election that put Donnie in, as well as the fact that at that point McCarpetbagger had done a very good job of hiding who and what she is FWIW, Hillary won AZ CD 2

          • Left Coast Tom

            Didn’t AZ move leftward in 2016, from Obama -9 to Clinton -4?

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Also too, her email newsletter today was about begging for a attaboy for being opposed to animal testing for cosmetics. While that certainly an important issue in its own right, it’s hardly what is dominating the headlines and it isn’t exactly a courageous stand to oppose it. What about those bankers, Martha? What about my healthcare insurance? What about your 100% asskissing of Cheeto Jesus?

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Whining about getting tarred by her association with Trump. There’s a real good solution for that, you fucking dingbat.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          A Republican standing up for humane treatment of animals? Unpossible! She does love her dog, I must admit. Let’s hope that gets her to heaven.

          • Three Finger Salute

            You know who else loved his dogs?

            Hitler…

          • puredog

            GODWIN ALERT! GODWIN ALERT!

          • Three Finger Salute

            In this case, Dogwin…

    • Doug Langley

      I’m absolutely fascinated by the people who do something unpopular with gusto, then are totally baffled when people hate their guts. Almost as if they have no conception whatsoever of cause and effect.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        That’s generally known as a “Republican”.

      • sw19covfefe

        Cognitive dissonance is confusing!

      • Latverian Diplomat

        “I still like myself, why can’t they?”

    • BadKitty904

      With Widows & Orphans for dessert.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Missed opportunities here – asset seizure salad, serf and turf, and prole-fiteroles for dessert.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Once you try the fresh proles right out of the workhouse, you’ll never go back to the canned ones.

        • sw19covfefe

          YOU MONSTER!

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      “The luncheon menu included steamed proles with butter, peasants au gratin, serf salad, and Coors Light.”

      ewwww….coors light.

  • Doug Langley

    Field trip day! We took the kiddies to the Air Force museum in Dayton. Awesome! Three hours of:

    “Please stand still for a photo.”
    “Single file, please.”
    “Please stay close.”
    “Please single file.”
    “Stand still for a photo.”
    “I said, SINGLE FILE.”
    “PLEASE STAY CLOSE!!”
    “JUST ONE MORE PHOTO!!”
    “PLEASE BE QUIET AND STAY CLOSE AND SINGLE FILE!!!!!!!”

    And oh yes, there were some airplanes. I think.

    Got my first paycheck. First one in four months! Yay!!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2c069458843007199a49fd529fdc8e38fb1f701e30f70f928214856ae29ab626.gif

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      We all do a happy dance for the paycheck … herding children? Not so much.

      • Doug Langley

        I’m desperate. What can I say?

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          Well, you’ll be able to give Donnie Two-Scoops austerity lessons soon enough.

    • LucindathePook

      I love the Air Force Museum. Not with kids, though

      • Doug Langley

        We barely made it through half the place. Absolutely fantastic.

    • Sakonyachen

      Congrats on the paycheck. Those can be quite elusive these days depending on your chosen trade.

    • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

      Having raised 2 children, while loving every minute of it, I must say that I admire ANYONE who can deal with groups of the little buggers.

      Happy day re: the paycheck!

      • Doug Langley

        I spent the entire time counting eight. That was the number of kids assigned to me. All day long sweating bullets I would come up short.

    • puredog

      For dog’s sake, don’t spend it ALL on booze.

  • sw19covfefe

    Today in Gay British Political News: Is our conservatives learning?
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40229826

    There are actually now surprisingly quite a few ‘out’ Tory politicians. Ironically, something that must give the fundy xtian leader of the Liberal Democrats sleepless nights about their souls.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/tim-farron-says-gay-sex-not-sin-admits-had-allowed-become-election/

    • Latverian Diplomat

      That will really go over well with the DUP….

  • ltmcdies

    America….this IS what you need right now

    https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/873009319951962112

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Bring me a shrubbery!

  • shivaskeeper

    OT open thread cuteness:

    Maximilian “Brad” Shamwow III, which is what happens when Wonkers help name your dog, or Max for short.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7cbfb672f6430dc42ef10c782d9dc585fb96f0d590e25cd84c18ac244d44aa9a.jpg

    Cassidy Marie.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/35b748c2c250830eb27a83febd8d969582edd656dc2cd7774b7634fa7d0b2bfa.jpg

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

      smiling! I would have suggested Doggie McCuteMuzzle.

      • shivaskeeper

        There was debate over it. That was the name that won. My hands were tied there.

        • Raan

          Did anyone suggest Doggo McDogface?

          • shivaskeeper

            They did not. I would have declines that one since Doggo is a breed already and he is definitely not a Doggo.

          • redarmyzombie

            Personally, I would have gone with Lucky Ted…

    • mancityRed6

      Brad? like from Rocky Horror?

      • Three Finger Salute

        Not the Liberty Mutual insurance commercials, I’m sure.

        Girl runs over Chad with her car named Brad and blames her dad for Breaking Bad or something.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6_M9bXYy2s

      • shivaskeeper

        Brad form a deleted comment. Brad who did not understand what this whole Wonkette thing was about.

        • mancityRed6

          dammit, I like mine better.
          now you just need a “janet”

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Handsome boy! How old?

      • shivaskeeper

        Four? At least that’s what I was told. He was a rescue form neglect who got fostered around here and then settled into is home and them got rehomed to me. I think he’s closer to two by the way he acts. So I’ll settle on three.

        I think he was rehomed again because he’s extremely high energy and needs to get into everything at least once. Black Dog and him wear each other out so it’s OK when I’m not home.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          It can be traumatic for them to switch homes like that. He’ll settle in once he feels secure. Bless you for taking him in.

          • shivaskeeper

            It took him all of a day or so to settle in. He’s been here for about two months or so and is doing good, he’s just curious about everything and thinks he should be a lap dog. That’s not normally a problem, but he has the ability to increase his mass once he lays on your lap so you can’t get up.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Daw!

          • puredog

            It is a remarkable dog feature, their changing mass.

          • shivaskeeper

            Black dog doesn’t do it, but being a Lab, I think it’s because she is made of mostly synthetic materials.

    • BadKitty904

      Now, that’s a mighty cute dog.

      • shivaskeeper

        Which one?*

        * The correct answer is: Both of them.

        • BadKitty904

          Oh, sorry, I didn’t realize the non-comment expanded. Plus we walked down to the Lazy Moon for a cocktail before supper.

          Yes, both of them!

          • shivaskeeper

            You are correct, sir.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Found it! And these are charming dogs.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Oh my God. They are beautiful but I thought at first that giant rawhide bone was an injured hind leg. Whew!

      • shivaskeeper

        I was worried about the bone being confused with an injury when I posted it.

        That particular bone has been carried around for about two weeks now. They both try to grab that one and taunt the other with it. All the other rawhide gets shredded.

    • Persistent Demme

      Smilers!

      And Max’s floppy ear!
      I can’t even!

  • Juan de Fuca

    So, is it wrong that I just wrapped up an hour long conversation with my potential future son-in-law (explaining the benefits of waiting to marry my daughter until they both established themselves in their chosen careers) and thought about texting him a follow up message with this video?

    https://youtu.be/0BDBVszev5E

    • shivaskeeper

      I don’t see the issue. It’s the sort of thing that can save his life one day.

      • Juan de Fuca

        Yeah, but he’s a good one. Would love to claim him as part of my own family one day.

        As long as he and my daughter follow helpful advice and I think they will. Kids…

        • shivaskeeper

          I remember you commenting about him before. It;’s still a good thing for them both to know.

        • puredog

          Yeah, you say “this one time” NOW, but what if you get a taste of controlling power? What then? (And I say this in humility and love.)

          • Juan de Fuca

            As long as he’s willing to pay for her high end college, go for it. That money could go towards a nice pool in my backyard.

          • redarmyzombie

            Eh, that’s the kind of thing that needs to be handled carefully. My then-brother-in-law went to my dad for permission to marry my sister, and when he refused, my sister *very* bluntly told him they were asking him strictly out of courtesy and were going forward regardless of what he had to say on the matter.

            She’s forgiven him for it now, but still gets cranky when the topic gets brought up…

          • Juan de Fuca

            Was she 19 and was your Dad spending his entire savings on her specialized school at the time? And why is he now your “then-brother-in-law?” I hope nothing bad happened to him?

          • redarmyzombie

            Sorry, that was a brain cramp. I meant to say yet-to-be-brother-in-law, he is now, happily, married to my sister. She was a little older than that, but not by much, and I’m not sure how much both of my parents had to take out of their savings to pay for her tuition, but I can say for a fact we had to go through the bulk of the college fund set aside for my education so that she could be the first person in the entire family to graduate from college.

            That actually ended up not being a problem for me, as it turned out I qualified for quite a bit of financial assistance on account of me being diagnosed with autism at an early age, but yeah, she had no such luck. I remember we had to go through quite a bit to help her out and she still ended up having to take out a number of killer loans to get by…

          • Juan de Fuca

            Yeah, kids are expensive :-) The main thing, as a father who loves his daughter probably more than he should (and his future son-in-law too) is trying to help them avoid the bigger mistakes in life – the ones that follow you. Like, forever.

            But at some point, you have to let go and let them make their own decisions. *sigh* They’ll be happy together though. I’m just mentoring in my own way by letting them know with his background, and her specialized education, she doesn’t have to follow a Navy guy around the U.S. from base to base. He could easily get out and with his training and with some government funded education through the GI Bill, find a far higher paying job on the outside while allowing my daughter to pursue her career in LA or NYC. At the end of day though, it’s up to them. They’re a good young couple.

          • redarmyzombie

            My brother in law was in the army. He ended up having to be discharged after a malformed bone snapped during basic training and fucked up his leg, which left my sister with very mixed feelings (this was back right around the time president Georgie Boy started thumping about Iraq.)

            They had kind of a rough go for a moment. My sister ended up being recruited by the FBI headquarters down in LA, but had to give it up because-big surprise-living on a government wage doesn’t pay the bills down in LA. Fortunately, they moved out and they’re both working in tech companies now and own a home.

            Your daughter and future son-in-law are very lucky. My folks love my sister’s husband, but both of his parents are abusive narcissists, and he ended up cutting off all contact with them. My sister tried to leave open a line of communication with them, but gave up after they sent her pictures of him with his ex girlfriend after their wedding…

          • Juan de Fuca

            Who does that? Who sends their son’s wife a picture of their son with another girl after their wedding? Seriously.

            My future son-in-law’s father always seemed like a good guy but when I asked future son-in-law today on the phone about how his pop is doing, he replied something about how they don’t really talk much anymore. To be honest though, we’ve kinda been like his parents ever since he agreed that he could date my daughter in my living room almost five years ago, when they were both freshmen in highschool. Now they’re adults and want to get married. You’d think I would’ve been prepared for this emotionally after the second or third year and I thought I was too…

            It’s all good though :) Just stay on your path girl is all I’m saying…

          • redarmyzombie

            And speaking of killer loans, Betsy Devos can get pelted with bats.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      The talk with my offspring was “You may not always love being single but it’s much better than having to extricate yourself from a miserable marriage. Wait for the right one”.

  • Michael R
    • Michael R

      also see …

      WATCH: Trump claims he’d never demand loyalty —
      CNN plays video of him doing just that

      http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/watch-cnn-nails-trump-for-demanding-loyalty-pledge-from-an-audience-after-claim-hed-never-do-that/?comments=disqus

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      I really hope people start coming out saying that Trump demanded a loyalty pledge when they worked for him.

      • shivaskeeper

        They can’t due to the personal NDAs they signed.

        • Three Finger Salute

          So the loyalty pledge is what prevents them from mentioning the loyalty pledge. I guess, first rule of loyalty pledge club is that you don’t talk about loyalty pledge club. Either that or it’s loyalty-pledge-ception.

          • shivaskeeper

            Something like that. Sign the Non Disclosure about pledging loyalty and you can’t talk about pledging loyalty because of the Non Disclosure.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Catch 45

            (somebody should)

          • puredog

            Soon, if not already, it will be a badge of honor to be sued by Drumpf.

  • not_vh

    folks i missed most of the proceedings. crazy week. don’t ask.

    one thing i want to ask. now what? what happens next?

    • jowgajen

      We continue to observe the destruction of our nation while partaking in whatever vice works to numb the pain slightly.

    • TootsStansbury

      The armed revolt starts Monday at dawn. Password “Ni”.

      • not_vh

        i’ll have a branch from the oak tree sharpened with a kitchen knife ready by then.

    • mancityRed6

      watergate took a couple of years.
      the wheels of justice grind slowly, but they do grind fine.

      • not_vh

        didn’t realize that. thx.

        • mancityRed6

          I was born a scant half a year or less before he resigned, but I’ve read about it a few times. History is good to know.

        • Doug Langley

          Nixon was smarter. He knew how to do a cover-up.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Agreed. Nixon’s pancake makeup pales in comparison to Donnie’s awful spray tan.

          • Latverian Diplomat

            Fun fact I learned from Nixonland. During every campaign break in 1988, Nixon went down to Bebe Rebozo’s property in Key Biscayne, Florida to work on his tan.

            He was never one to repeat a mistake, though he did keep finding new ones.

  • TootsStansbury

    I must be tipsy, I tried to upfist Senator Warren’s tweet.

  • ariel_gee_398

    They have so much more in common now – now they both are governing without having any legitimacy.

    https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/873311728460857344

  • goonemeritus

    you financial people out there is there any instrument that would allow an investor to short America?

    • BadKitty904

      A Republican Congress?

    • jowgajen

      Why yes, that congresscritter who decked a reporter has some investments in Russian index funds. Those should work well as a “short”. I presume that’s actually what they were for in his own portfolio.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Yes, it’s called an electrical socket and the plebs’ dicks being inserted into it.

      With votes hedge funds.

    • weejee

      With short, vulgar fingers.

    • h4rr4r

      You could short the SP500 if you really hate having money.

    • Rick Hill

      Yeah but it’s not legal. Hold on. Now it is

    • Latverian Diplomat

      The problem with shorting is, you can be 100% right, but if the market isn’t quite ready to admit you’re right, you’ll lose your shirt.

    • Lori

      Yes, there are, although I’m not sure small investors can buy them. Have you read the book “The Big Short”? The guys who got rich when the housing bubble burst were effectively shorting America. At least one of them was so bothered by it that he no longer invests.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      You need serious money to get in the game. That was part of the Big Short book as well as the movie. Maybe we could form a Wonkette consortium. I’d like to short Trump and the Republican Party just for giggles

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        good flick.

  • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly

    Did they share and compare maps?

  • pgjack

    Extremely wealthy people did not get hurt by the last economic disaster so why should Republicans worry about the next one. The GOP base loves it when rich people screw them.

  • Duchess Gummybuns

    I probably won’t live to see the next financial crisis.

    Here in North Carolina, a bill just passed the house that will allow you to carry a concealed weapon without a permit, and they lowered the carrying age from 21 to 18. Even the fucking Fraternal Order of Police were against it.

    A buckethead would come in handy about now.

    • Three Finger Salute

      They’re all bucketheads, aren’t they.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Jesus christ

    • Michael R

      I think Michigan already passed one ( ? )
      Maybe just the house ( ? )

    • Explody Brain

      A Kevlar buckethead.

      • puredog

        Why oh why do I not scroll down? (“Lazy.”)

        • vivian

          you each get up votes for sharing a thought

    • Jennifer R

      Glad I left the state years ago.

    • puredog

      Kevlar buckethead.

    • TootsStansbury

      Honestly, I don’t expect to see my retirement years. Sorry to hijack but tyrants, while never on the right side of history and who often come to bad ends, cause mass death before they’re deposed. I fully expect to fall into the mass death statistic.

      • Three Finger Salute

        I on the other hand hope to fall into that statistic. Better than being one of the handmaids weaving a tale.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        Yeah. I decided as a child that I would die on my feet. I’m under no illusions about how many hate-filled wretched scum I face, but I promise there will be fewer before I go down.

    • shivaskeeper

      That should end well.

    • janecita

      Old enough to carry, too young to legally buy alcohol. Yes, it makes perfect sense.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Only here. I think it’s 18 in Canada and most of Europe.

        Legal drinking age is N/A in our ally Saudi Arabia. Legal marriage age? I’m guessing 5 minutes after birth…

        • jaspersdad

          19 in BC.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Technically, there’s no legal minimum in the USA if parental consent is provided. But you can’t consent to give your epileptic child helpful CBD.

        • MilwaukeeKent

          16 in Spain but you can’t drive until you’re 21. Beer was available in vending machines.

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      One of my kids is a firefighter/paramedic in the Triangle. The house is making it so I’ll worry more about him getting shot than being injured fighting a fire.

    • vivian

      Do the fuckheads in the NC legislature spend their evenings thinking “what’s another thing we could do to ensure no one comes here to visit?”

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl
  • Ezio
    • sw19covfefe

      It is a tad ironic that Corbyn is perceived to have ‘won’ the election. And yet we now have a Tory minority government now having to rely on the support of a far-right social conservative regional party – and May is having to calm the gheys within her own ranks (e.g. the lesbian leader of the Scottish Conservatives).
      It’s all a teensy bit pyrrhic, if you ask me.

      • mancityRed6

        it’s more than that. May is walking wounded. she gambled, thought she would gain ground, but lost it and had to go to the good queen mother to ask permission to stay in power. not literally, but it still doesn’t make for good photos.
        labour gained ground; and, so long as they don’t go the way of “new” labour, they will continue to do so.
        kind of like the special elections that Republicans should have walked away with but had to scrabble and fight to win.

        • sw19covfefe

          I’m not disagreeing with that – my point was more about the broader law of unintended consequences.
          However, there was a one-time bounce for Labour from selective strategic voting (thanks again, first-past-the-post system!) and the youth actually bothering to vote for once.
          This was very good news for Corbyn, as he can flick the old v-signs at the Blairites.
          Can he build on that surge over the next eleventy months till the next attempt at the general election – all the while fighting his own party over a “smooth transition” for the Brexit Process? Remember, a lot of those voters might not be aware he’s pro/committed to Brexit, although he’s confirmed it several times (and was always a ‘healthy’ eurosceptic)

          • mancityRed6

            I’m still pissed about the Brexit thing, and I don’t even live there.
            and a better thing would be a two fingered salute to the Blairites. They deserve nothing less for turning traitor.

  • Picabo

    On this date in history. “1954 Joseph McCarthy meets his match” “Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness.” It was then McCarthy’s turn to be stunned into silence, as Welch asked, “Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?”
    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/joseph-mccarthy-meets-his-match

    History may not repeat itself, but it may rhyme.

    • mancityRed6

      time is a circle, a wheel. everything comes around again with a long enough timeline.
      like bell bottoms.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    Anybody else need something nice?

    https://youtu.be/jSFLZ-MzIhM

    • mancityRed6

      I still remember seeing that in the theater. Still.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Understandably.

    • shivaskeeper

      I posted my pups below. That’s nice.

      Also, too, muppets are the best.

      • janecita

        Your dogs are so cute!

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Looking for the doggie post

        • shivaskeeper

          If you can’t find it, and it should be pretty recent, and you twist my arm, or just ask, I’ll repost the pics for you.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Found it! And your doggies seem very nice indeed. Plus they seem happy. That matters a lot to me.

          • shivaskeeper

            I think they are happy. They act happy.

    • BadKitty904
      • Lori

        I have such a soft spot for this song. My mom used to sing it to me when I was little.I miss her.

  • jesterpunk
  • proudgrampa

    I know a fella, eats like a horse;
    Knocks his ol’ balls around the ol’ golf course.

    https://youtu.be/ZACwVOJXpn0

  • Yr. Gma

    Any word from Detroit?

  • Jamoche

    Grammar analysis from the New Yorker:
    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-vs-comey-hope-against-hope

    …but more distinctive is the word “better,” wielded as an intensifier. With that single addition, Trump makes it clear that his dearest wish, as a rhetorician, is to switch into fluent villainese. “You’d better hope I don’t make it back,” the unfazeable Snake Plissken says, in “Escape from New York,” and Jay Z, in the tender lyrics to “Gangsta Shit,” informs us that “you better hope this money don’t catch fire.” However you dish up the phrase, it carries the aroma of threat.

  • Once&futureFred

    “so that all Americans can become rich, assuming they started out that way.”
    is very well put Dok!

  • idiotboy

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f9a92faebe3b8319f47702d108741efa3936cc87d27234035855f351b51e73b.jpg

    This is the office for the next few weeks. That is a happy Mallard’s Bottom. He is eating delicious things washed up during a recent storm. Eight months ago the lake ended at the end of the pier you see on the right.
    It is supposed to snow on Sunday.
    Have a nice weekend everyone! We deserve it.

  • Nounverb911

    Every time donnie tweets, there’s an old tweet that says the opposite.
    https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/873313815206793218

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      The Third Rule of Trump Derpodynamics: For every tweet there is an older and opposite tweet.

    • UnsaltedSinner

      They don’t really haunt him, as he has no shame.

    • FDRliberal

      “On everything from the Russia investigation to golf, @BenjySarlin looks at how Trump’s old tweets haunt him today “

      The problem is that Trump simply doesn’t give a shit when caught in a lie and he knows his marks /supporters are too stupid or propagandized to care as well. He’ll just lie about it and say “Next question” when confronted.

  • BadKitty904

    Since Three Finger Salute brought ’em up below…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9aKZZJvB0E

    Now, off to supper, you scamps!

  • Anna Rompage

    It’s gonna be a weekend with the wife’s cousins…

    Tonight it a bon voyage party for one cousin who is eloping this weekend…

    Tomorrow is an all day & night “burn the white coat party” for another cousin who just finished her residency.

    And Sunday is an all day event celebrating yet another cousin’s high school graduation…

    Good times!

    • Once&futureFred

      Nice for your Fam, congrats!

    • Make sure you have a great bonfire for the white coat ceremony! Nothing like a bonfire.

  • jowgajen

    J.K.Rowling lays it all out on the topic of the British equivalent of the Bernie bro. Read the whole (short) thread.

    https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/873208137028915203

  • Rick Hill
  • SayItWithWookies

    I did not realize that just an hour before Assmouth took another swing at Qatar that Rex Tillerson had asked the Saudis and their allies to chill with the Qatar-bashing. One thing everybody who works for Assmouth should realize — one day he’s gonna make you look like a goddamn fool. Everyone thinks it only happens to everyone else.

    • Left Coast Tom

      Are the US Marines in Qatar packing up yet, just in case?

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      I can’t wait until Qatar asks our military to leave and Trump blames Obama

    • Yay! News that’s fun!

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Yes. Yes they are.

    • Persistent Demme

      Awww…
      Look at those expressive faces!
      Good boys!!

  • Nounverb911
    • Three Finger Salute

      Nope. He fled to Canada.

      He couldn’t quit Justin just like we can’t quit either of them.

    • shastakoala

      He needs to write that in one of his Book of Wonders.

      • Three Finger Salute

        I think room 1408 is really at 666 Fifth Avenue.

        • shastakoala

          Loved that movie. Never got to read the book, novella ? though. Am muddling my way through 11/22/63 . Another sad group of numbers, but so far a really good read.

  • sw19covfefe
  • President in Exile Firefly

    Why won’t the mainstream scribes report on some of the great things Caligula has done? Like building the wall in Britain and privatizing the roads and aqueducts. After all, if the Emperor wants to appoint his horse to the Senate, that’s perfectly legal. The Roman constitution says that Senators serve at the Emperor’s pleasure. The real news is all the leaks by Cicero and Tacitus. #MakeRomeGreatAgain!

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Our God Emperor hates horses. They have germs,, and no self respecting horse would carry his fat ass. However he might make his favorite golf cart pro consul.

  • Picabo

    “So generation after generation of men in love with pain and passivity serve out their time in the Zone, silent, redolent of faded sperm, terrified of dying, desperately addicted to the comforts others sell them, however useless, ugly or shallow, willing to have life defined for them by men whose only talent is for death.”
    ― Thomas Pynchon, Gravity’s Rainbow

    • Wild Cat

      Worst essay ever written was pathetic old Harold Bloom pretending he read “GR” by doing an essay on Byron the Lightbulb.
      Worst Pynchon readers are the ones who don’t realize “C of Lot 49” is a piffle compared to V and GR.

      • HorseChestnut

        I liked Harold Bloom way back when I was doing comp. lit/ lit crit in college. Why? What the hell was wrong with me?

  • TJ Barke

    Apparently aliens from Aldebaraan gave the nazis anti gravity technology, which was used extensively in WWII but it’s all been scrubbed out of official history. I had no idea…

    • shivaskeeper

      Wow. Were did you learn this nugget of truth from?

      • TJ Barke

        From the wealth of secret knowledge contained in UFOTV documentaries available on Amazon streaming.

        • shivaskeeper

          I see. Sounds good to me. I’ll go with it.

          • TJ Barke

            They are greatly amusing.

          • shivaskeeper

            I tried one or two of the “documentaries” on Netflix or Amazon or some such. I was ready to have a rage stroke after about 5 minutes. Won;t do it again as I don;t want to have a rage stroke.

        • UnsaltedSinner

          If they know that UFOs are spaceships from other planets, why are they still calling them UFOs? Aren’t UFOs supposed to be unidentified?

        • Kiri the Unicorn

          *starts to explain exactly how far a single light-year is, but quickly gives up in disgust*

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

      I saw one guy said the Nazis had Atomic bombs. I asked him to explain why they weren’t used to break up Koniev’s Tank Front in April 1945, and he didn’t answer me.

      • (((Aron)))

        Because they were all spent on the German victory at Kursk.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

          xD Yup. That is always my thing about Nazi Wunder Waffen – why weren’t they used, or why didn’t the Nazis win?

          One of the worst arguments I ever had was with a bunch of Numpties that were into the Horton Flying Wing. I finally and carefully explained that if they had worked, it would have only meant a B-29 dropping Little Boy on Berlin about July of 1945.

        • The Fathers Initiative

          idiot. You Jews and your obsession to a singular moment in time. It reminds me of a Jew website which was using photographs from the Cambodian Genocide and claiming those pictures were of Jewish killing fields.

    • Thiazin Red

      Thats nothing, Ancient Aliens told me that aliens gave the Nazis a time travel device. And that aliens kidnapped Leonardo this one time.

      • Three Finger Salute

        So that’s how he finally got the Oscar? Jedi mind tricks?

      • Anna Rompage

        It’s why we have so many of those stupid white trash nazis in our country, they all jumped to the future, a place where all they had t fear was getting punched in the face, instead of imprisoned, or executed..

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      There were no Nazis on Alderan. The Empire is making this up!

  • sw19covfefe
    • Wild Cat
    • (((Aron)))

      Weeeeeeee!!!!!

      • HSkol

        Whoa-oooooooo-aaaaaa!

        • I work around DC.
          &
          Let me tell you, the day after the election, this 12:1, Democrat to Republican populace was fairly quiet.
          It was as if a howling redneck had run over their family dog in a pickup truck with the stars and bars flag flapping in proud glory.
          These fools still haven’t learned their lesson. I doubt they ever will. They view themselves as oppositional belligerents.
          I don’t fear terrorism.
          I don’t fear a Russian invasion.
          I fear SJWs.
          SJWs are irrational, malicious, dysfunctionals.
          &
          They ruin lives more than any other force ever set against America. They deserve every last measure of what they’re gonna get.

  • Wild Cat

    I’m bored. Any good William Bennett, GOP Moralist, stories of his escapades with dominatrixes and mafiosos in casinos?

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Bill Bennett, yeah.

      “But I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could — if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down”

      Fuck Bill Bennett.

      • Wild Cat

        One of many traitors to the Democrats and democracy due to his moral failings. X-ref Hitchens, Christopher et al.

  • HazooToo
    • Anna Rompage

      Dementia is nothing to laugh at….

      Bwaaahhhh haaah aa haaa haaa haaaa

      • vivian

        In principle I agree with you. In practice, this motherfucker deserves whatever he gets.

  • Marceline

    I’m here for the new Potty Mouth Caucus.

    https://twitter.com/SenGillibrand/status/873306930374225920

    • shivaskeeper

      Has there been outrage over this yet? I’m sure there has been, but I won;t go looking for it.

      • MilwaukeeKent

        Russian Limbaugh was fake-outraged about it, and a local talker as well. Rusty used it as a launching pad on preaching about moral decline — a lecture on morality from a guy on his 4th marriage/business deal with an opiod problem, some shady scandals and a history of strong-arming his employees into committing felonies.
        They’re all putting on a brave face but it’s obvious Trump is driving them nuts, finally they control everything and they can’t get a damned thing done (some credit goes to a majority congress who forgot how to govern). All the talk-radio effort right now is dedicated to shoring up an eroding base. Sad!

        • shivaskeeper

          About what I thought.

    • Left Coast Tom

      Eh…Kamala Harris said “fuck” while dissing Trumpcare, we still like her in CA.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Just emulate our northern neighbors and tell everyone you really said fuddle duddle.

        • sw19covfefe

          Puck. It was a hockey analogy!

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            Go penguins!

          • Saxo the Grammarian

            Go Warriors!

        • Left Coast Tom

          Nah, Trumpcare deserves a “fuck you”.

    • sw19covfefe

      Fuck yeah!

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      The fuck you say???

  • Rachel Book Harlot
    • ariel_gee_398

      BECAUSE THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION. Jesus christ. I don’t think he’s ever read the fucking document. Yesterday he was arguing for state-sanctioned school prayer.

      • shivaskeeper

        Most of the current crop of GOPers haven’t read it. Or at least the actual document. They have read the one that exists only in their heads that says all the things they want it to say.

        Also, too. Trump and read should not be in the same thought as it implies he can in fact read and I haven;t seen anything to back that up.

        On a more serious note, I will need to look further into this. A lot of the rules and protocols that apply to everyone else in the government do not apply to the President. That is why nothing will be done about emoluments, they just don’t apply to him.

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          And his enablers on the Supreme Court will decide that they don’t apply to him. How soon until they’re all invited for dinner and a loyalty pledge?

          • shivaskeeper

            Unfortunately they don’t apply. The President is supposed to be of such unimpeachable character that those rules aren’t needed. Kind of an oversight on the rules there.

            I believe Elizabeth Warren put a bill up to make the emoluments clause apply to the President after the election or inauguration as well. You know where that one went. Nowhere.

          • Three Finger Salute

            As I mentioned elsewhere: Gutting or outright abolishing the CFRB isn’t just about letting Wall Street out of the rubber room. Republicans fight dirty and make fights personal. It’s about punishing Elizabeth Warren. The CFRB was her baby.

          • shivaskeeper

            I disagree. Her getting punished would be the added bonus in this. They really, really don’t like the CFRB at all. Or rather their big money donors don’t like it.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          They like those little “pocket Constitutions” that the militia goobers carry….the ones that say the Constitution was written by Jesus to show us how to destroy gays and dark people.

        • Three Finger Salute

          They think the Constitution is that draft Word document that says “Mammon is the Lord thy God” and “Thou shalt honor thy lobbyists and shareholders”.

          • shivaskeeper

            It also has some limits to the 1st Amendment unless you are a white Christian male, and no limits on the 2nd Amendment. There are no other Amendments until the 10th which says states can do what they want , and that’s pretty much all that’s in there.

        • ariel_gee_398

          Emoluments applies to him. Conflict of interest laws generally don’t. But the actual text of the Constitution is: no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

          No exceptions in that language.

          • shivaskeeper

            But it has been untested in regards to a President. For the most part it was been traditional to follow it. Until the SCOTUS decides this in the modern era of corporations and if this is separate from the Bribery clause that calls out the Office of the President explicitly, there is not a lot that can be done. I don;t even know who has standing to even try to get this into court.

            That’s why I say it doesn’t apply. If no one has standing to sue over it and it’s not counted as “High Crimes and Misdemeanors” it is effectively unenforceable and may as well not apply.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Corporations are people and money is speech. So by accepting speech from foreign people, he’s opening up a dialogue with the rest of the world! Look how nicely it all works out…!

      https://media.giphy.com/media/1mjZ33k4qBCF2/giphy.gif

      • MilwaukeeKent

        If money is speech I can buy lunch with a limerick.

    • Rick Hill

      Bribery is now globalized. I wonder how long till he starts renting out the military

      • Explody Brain

        Bush the Elder did that with the First Gulf War. Pretty much literally.

      • jowgajen

        That seems to be his understanding of how NATO works ….

    • Wild Cat

      Fuck the Roberts Court.

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        I got to speak with a totally amazing WWII vet today. He’s 94, and stopped the political conversation at Gorsuck. Said, nicely, that we’re watching the downfall of everything he fought for, and Gorsuck was the nail in the coffin of our little social experiment.

        • Wild Cat

          He’s my late father’s age. My father enlisted the day he turned 18. I’m glad he’s at peace and not watching this shit unfold and die.

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            You’re father’s service is greatly appreciated. I’m glad this old guy’s still kickin’! He said they were counting on racism and bigotry to die off with the olds when he was in his 60s… 40 years ago. perspective.

          • Wild Cat

            Someone had a great rant on BJ or LGM yesterday on how good that generation was and how my Boomer generation (he was a boomer, too) fucked everything up. He was right.
            The WWII fighting generation functioned with incredible PTSD and still put us through college, still fed us . . .
            Fuck the Chicken Hawks. Fuck the Warmongers,

    • Paperless Tiger

      They won’t stop, you know. They have to be stopped.

    • MilwaukeeKent

      “DOJ lawyers contend that the foreign emoluments clause doesn’t apply to “fair-market commercial transactions” like payments for hotel rooms and golf club fees, according to Bloomberg.
      .Trump administration lawyers also argue that CREW and other plaintiffs lack legal standing to bring the case against Trump and that Congress, not the court system, should determine whether Trump is in violation of the emoluments clause.”
      Yeeeessss. Congress is the final arbiter of constitutional issues, sure, a-and no foreign government would specifically choose to spend at a Trump facility to curry favor. Besides, everyone knows emoluments is what you use to clean white wall tires…some Goddamn brass on these fuckers, unreal.

  • Alexander Stallwitz
  • alwayspunkindrublic

    I just saw a commercial for a stationary exercise bike using the Ramones’ “Blitzkrieg Bop” as the soundtrack. I’m living in the wrong fucking galaxy.

    • shivaskeeper

      Why not? They used Janis Joplin to pimp Mercedes Benz a few years ago.

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        I can see that.

    • Wild Cat

      Yup. And the Ramones had an actual fascist in the band from the beginning. I used to like them, but it’s all over now,

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Well, they’re all fucking dead now, so it’s probably Micheal Jackson or some dickhead like him that sold the rights. Oh wait…he’s dead too.

        • Wild Cat

          Joey was ill. Only was at a venue with him once. Nice guy. The nazi was really a necro—got his rocks off on gore and guns. But yeah, they all died young.
          Queens gave us them and the great NY Dolls. Also S&G. Sadly, the ‘president,’ that dogfucker, too.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Then there was DeeDee….

          • Wild Cat

            Without the Beach Boys, there’d be no Ramones.
            They were also pretty racist about Latinos. Queens = Segregation.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Without Brian Wilson, there’d be no Mike Love…a win for the planet as a whole.

          • Wild Cat

            Without Brian Wilson, the Theramin would be a lost art. (Good doc on Theramin years ago had a drugged-out Wilson giving him megaprops).

          • Three Finger Salute

            Screw that drunken sellout. Brian was the Beach Boys.

            Great Moments in Monumental Asshole History: Mike Love’s drunk rant at the 1988 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Ceremony. Taylor Swift wasn’t born yet, but he pulled the original Kanye.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZSAQX2uuUY

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            One of the bigger-if not the biggest-a-holes in rock&roll history. Completely sans talent also too.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      That song has been sold to every business.

    • And The Clash for selling some conspicuous consumption device or the other.

      • Wild Cat

        Ha. Makes the Cost of Living EP moot. (And what a great EP it was!)

        • Tom Waits once joked that he made more money suing to keep his voice (or a sound-alike) off of ads than he ever did on a song.

          • Wild Cat

            Did early to mid Waits ever sound like Burl Ives to you?

        • Lori

          Joe Strummer acknowledged the weirdness of licensing the band’s music and said that for himself he wouldn’t have done it. He was OK financially and didn’t like the idea of hearing his music in ads. However other members of the band were much less well off and he didn’t feel right about preventing them from having the income the licensing brought in. Not sure if that was true or an excuse, and I was never sure how I felt about it in either case.

          • Wild Cat

            Died too young. Ironic his kid and Mick Jones’ kid became pals after the breakup.

          • Lori

            Much too young. The ex & I saw him play with the Mescaleros not that long before he died. He put on a great show. It was a huge shock when he died.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      I was startled to hear Jimi Hendrix’s “Let Me Stand Next To Your Fire” on the background music thing at Safeway the other day. Speaking of which…

      https://youtu.be/0XCbfAzOq9c

    • TJ Barke

      One of the Ramones was a republican…

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Johnny. More like a Nazi. Which I guess is pretty much the same difference.

        • Juan de Fuca

          Slightly O/T but I’m reading this thread and starting to wonder if I should base all of my musical tastes in general on the political leanings of those providing the product.

          *Walks into a respected brew pub*

          Nah, wait a minute server guy. Before you show us to a seat, how does the owner of this joint vote?

    • Steely_Fan

      Felt the same way when I saw the Raisin Bran commercial using Warren Zevon’s song Werewolves of London for a soundtrack.

      • MilwaukeeKent

        Nothing will ever top, for me, Iggy Pop’s “Lust For Life” in a cruise line commercial — “Somewhere between the liquor and drugs and the sex machine, it hits you. This is no ordinary cruise”.
        Chrissie Hynde was asked how she felt about Russian Limbaugh using “City Was Gone” for his theme. “Well, it put my kid through college…” was basically the reply.
        Michael Hurley’s obscure gem, “Hog of the Forsaken” was no longer so when Deadwood took it as the theme song. He deserved the money, but my secret to share was gone. So it goes. Sigh.

  • Hutch

    The world is apparently going to hell. Hand basket or not. I will be listening to the Fabulous Wailers and the Sonics tonight. Crazy Tacoma garage bands that were my youth.

    I got all my retirement out of stocks after 2008, but I feel badly for those who did not. Rentiers. Whaddagonnado?

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Make sure you play “Strychnine” over and over again.

    • Explody Brain

      Don’t feel bad. They did extremely well the last few years.

  • Juan de Fuca

    Seeing how Trump has filled his cabinet with Goldman Sach’s flunkies, how he publicly hoped for a housing market crash before it was all the rage and how the top 1% made out extremely well during the financial crisis that led to the regulations Trump just repealed, it’s becoming easier to understand why Hillary was despised so much.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      But her emails and Wall Street speeches!

    • Once&futureFred

      It’s both surreal and obscene.

    • Three Finger Salute
      • Left Coast Tom

        National finance ministers/treasury secretaries/etc. are supposed to be presumed to be sophisticated investors – in other words, they have the means to bring in the best available talent, and are therefore negotiating with bankers as relative equals. Actually, more than equals – there’s nobody that can force a sovereign debtor to pay what they don’t want to pay. The process can be made annoying – google the situation with Argentina’s debt, but in the end a sovereign doesn’t have to pay unless they want to.

        Meaning, if bond sales from Venezuela were a bad idea for Venezuela, the blame lies primarily with Venezuela. A banker may bear blame in addition, but the inquiry has to start with Venezuela, which must be presumed to know what it’s doing – apparently despite all evidence.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor…

          • Wild Cat

            A thousand thumbs-up. Can’t take these vampires anymore.

          • Left Coast Tom

            Venezuela is a government – it’s only poor now because 1) Chavez and Maduro squandered its wealth, and 2) Venezuelans voted for demagogues in elections that are widely considered to have been free and fair.

            As for the folks who actually negotiate such deals on behalf of countries – they’re far from poor, and they’re far from incapable.

          • Three Finger Salute

            I almost wish the “Pink Tide” had succeeded, because the cons trot out “Venezuela!” as an excuse for shredding the safety net and letting the majority of us die by the law of the jungle. It’s the “Benghazi!” of the Paul Ryan set. (Especially now that “Russia!” is, er, “in like Flynn” with the Woolly Mammon party now.)

          • Left Coast Tom

            There’s no benefit to defending the indefensible – they can trot out Venezuela all they want, it only matters if we choose to defend what we all have to know is wrong.

  • HazooToo
  • Tiffany de Houston

    Guess who’s at the golf course again this weekend?!

    • shastakoala

      Gophers?

      • georgiaburning

        We can hope

      • Hutch

        I have a live trap set out on my counter tonight. I’ve had a rat. And yeah, maybe I don’t do the dishes everyday, but still. I’ll liberate the poor convict tomorrow morning at the local college. Better venue.

        • jowgajen

          Rats come in through shockingly small holes. If they can fit their skull through (dime sized even), they can fit the rest of themselves through. Find the hole and eliminate the rat issue. Look behind appliances and in the backs of cabinets. Check the baseboards, etc. Check for chew marks as a clue.

          Use steel wool to fill the holes and then patch them with wood/plaster.

          Rats travel along the wall from their hole. The trap on the counter is less likely to be successful than one set up so the rat can enter it from along a wall/baseboard.

          If you don’t find the hole, the rat or its friends will come back. Cleanliness has little to do with it.

          • Dg Hacket

            I waould also recommend having a bucket of water handy to drop the caught rat/sprung trap into so you don’t hear it struggling for 10 minutes

    • jesterpunk

      Figures Melon and Barron move in this weekend and he goes golfing instead.

      • HazooToo

        Well it’s not like he wants to be anywhere near them.

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          Nor do they want him underfoot.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Especially not the poor boy. I feel really bad for Barron. Bad enough if he does have something wrong with him mentally, but even worse that the eugenicist Twitler is his dad, and 3 of his 4 siblings are craven sociopaths. From what I’ve heard, Tiffany is nicer.

          • HazooToo

            Don’t know if he’s autistic or not, but either way, he’s immensely better off when his father is nowhere near him. I am still outraged at how many millions of dollars it cost us to keep him and his mother in Trump Tower.

          • Lambsendbeds

            That’s probably because Marla kept her far, far away from her sire. I won’t call him her “father” because he doesn’t deserve to be called anyone’s father. He’s just the sperm donor.

          • Cat Cafe for the Investigation

            I actually had occasion to work with Marla on something and she was just the sweetest person. I think he literally just preyed on her.

    • Juan de Fuca

      A 70 year old version of Shooter McGavin?

      • Ωbjectifier

        What eats little balls of shit for breakfast

    • Hutch

      Hitler? Wait wut?

    • cmd resistor

      Oh but I read it is a “working’ trip.

    • Three Finger Salute

      OJ?

      At least I got the “orange” part right…

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Don’t forget guys that the R senate are poised to ram through repeal and replace as quickly and stealthily as possible. I’m thinking the Rs love this Russia thing because it takes their nefarious shit off the front page.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/mccaskill-hatch-obamacare-repeal-secrecy

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Feeling bad that I’ve been too busy to spend as much time with my mother as I’d like. I had to do some shopping after work today, so I picked her up and took her to my favorite Mexican market, which she hadn’t been to before. She LOVED it. Chattering away in Spanish with the help…she filled her cart with tortillas, machaca, green chiles, fresh pico de gallo, queso Menonita, limes, takeout posole. She even found a type of cheese she said she hadn’t seen since she was a little girl. We had a ball.

    • Hutch

      You’re a good son.

    • msanthropesmr

      I wish my mom could cook.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Oddly enough, my mother was a horrid cook when I was a kid…too overwhelmed raising 3 kids on her own. It’s only later in life that she’s indulged her knack for it.

    • Me not sure

      Treasure her. Mine passed a little over a year ago and now I see her only in my dreams.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        I do, thanks. Sorry you lost her.

        • Me not sure

          Thanks.

      • Left Coast Tom

        Yes. Mine passed in 2001, and I still sometimes see her in dreams.

      • Cat Cafe for the Investigation

        Me too. A year and a half ago. In the dreams I always think, with a leap of pathetic delight, “Oh, you’re NOT dead! This is so wonderful! I can talk to you on the phone! We can do things together! I’m so happy!” Sometimes my father is there too and I’m even more surprised and happy “Oh all these years I thought he was dead, and he ISN’T!! This is so good!” I’m so ridiculously sad when I wake up.

        • Me not sure

          I know

    • Mehmeisterjr

      My mother is now very old (well over 90) and I never know which Mom I will encounter from day to day.

      Sometimes she is fairly sharp and has her usual snarky sense of humor.

      Sometimes, she is just stubborn and impossible to deal with.

      And the lack of short-term memory is a constant challenge.

      Often, it is a bewildering combination of the three.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        That’s so hard. My mom is 92, and fortunately, still quite sharp and very active.

  • Me not sure

    When my son was 25 years oId I got him to put his savings into a fixer upper house at below market price with a low fixed rate 30 year mortgage. The monthly payment on his little 1000 sg. ft. home on about 1/3 acre is $470/mo. I’m so glad that we got that done before Obama was gone. He is the only one he knows his age who owns a home. In my mind owning a home is the main characteristic of being part of the shrinking middle class in this country. He and I have put a lot of sweat equity into the house and he is very proud of it. I am proud of both him and his new bride. If things go south again I think they will be able to ride it out in their little nest.

    • shastakoala

      My daughter is in the process of buying her first home. Also a fixer upper but in a great location. And close to me! Now bring on the grandbabies!

      • Me not sure

        Yeah!…and soon!

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      I was very fortunate to save enough to buy a place much like that 25 years ago, with a mortgage that allowed me to survive the collapse of the economy…and a lot of my business with it. Without it, I’d be fucking homeless right now.

      • Me not sure

        He inherited about $10,000.00 from an elderly a spinster aunt and questioned whether this was a good move, but he couldn’t rent much more the a mobile home in this area for his mortgage payment and every month he builds up equity. The house opened up the prospect of marriage and maybe someday a child. He’s glad he did it. I am too.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Good for him, good for you and Missus Me not sure.

        • Left Coast Tom

          I’ve had this conversation with family in MI. I bought here in CA, in 1995, and am incredibly glad I did. But here it’s “rent is much lower than mortgage”, so the ‘buy’ decision is a leap of faith”, of sorts. In MI, the math leans much more heavily on the “buy” side, so long as one plans to stay.

          • Me not sure

            Since he bought several large businesses have announced expansion plans in this community and real estate prices have risen. We are an ex-urb of Atlanta and growth is moving this way. We got in just in time.

    • Shibusa

      How is Mrs. Me Not Sure doing?

      • Me not sure

        You wouldn’t know she was sick. She has been gardening her ass off (mine too). We see the oncologist on Tuesday. Thanks for asking. I always show her the comments of the folks here and it never fails to make her feel better. I’ll report back on Wednesday.

        • Lance Thrustwell

          Good! Best to both of you.

    • Left Coast Tom

      Awesome.

  • Jeff Mc Donald

    Look hippies, we didn’t have these over-restrictive, and unfairly burdensome, laws before and nothing happened…oh, wait….never mind. The point is I think we can all trust that those people learned their lessons even though none of them were punished…hold it…this isn’t coming out right. Let’s just all place our total trust in people who profess to believe that the best result will be achieved if everyone is free to exercise greed and avarice, in a totally healthy and socially acceptable way. There! Who could argue with that?

    • shivaskeeper

      I believe the preferred term is libtard, not hippy.

  • Been trying to warn people about removing these safe guards for so long. I’ve been alive a long ass time and have watched these white collar crooks over the decades, and they work in cycles.

    A few years ago it was Bush Jr.’s cadre of neo-cons who were deregulating markets, using sketchy Enron accounting, and starting wars in order to enrich their friends through no-bid government contracts.

    Does Jack Abramoff ring a bell? If you want to know what’s wrong with this country, watch a documentary called ‘Casino Jack and the United States of Money’ (Not the stupid movie with Kevin Spacy)

    Before that it was the Keating Five, John McCain and other GOP voodoo economic hacks deregulating the banking industry and watching as the Savings and Loan scandal forced the American consumer to pony up the money to bail out banks (sound familiar?)

    And long before that it was the government allowing bankers to use commoner’s commercial accounts as speculative instruments and that caused the Great Depression, or was a large part of it.

    • jowgajen

      It’s just flat out looting. The individual bankers and traders take their commissions, pay, bonuses, etc. out and leave the actual investors and borrowers holding the bag. Triple bonus if you can get some sweet tax money to clean up the mess you just made on top of that.

    • Wild Cat

      I divested 90% and put it in a credit union a few days before the fucker seized the reigns. I wish I could divest my 401k without being penalized.

  • OrG

    I’ma start sharpening my pitchforks.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Need help? I’ve got many, many files.

  • HazooToo
    • Shanzgood

      Baconzgood tried to do that to me when we met at the airport. He even left his backpack unattended.

      That was just the first time during my visit to Pittsburgh that I fought simeone would end up in the hospital or in jail.

      • HazooToo

        You guys are too precious and I’m so happy for you! You’re proof that sometimes good things happen to good people, too.

        • Shanzgood

          We are also insane, probably.

          • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

            WTF is sane in this world anymore.

          • Rick Hill

            Proly?

  • Shanzgood
  • Explody Brain

    “An honor to join the @FaithandFreedom Coalition yesterday. In America, we don’t worship government. We worship God.”
    D. Trump

    Actually, mustard burp stain, we worship whatever the fuck we want or nothing at all!

    • Lori

      The orange manbaby worships himself and money, possibly not in that order. .

  • Mehmeisterjr

    If you’re looking for some optimism, or at least for some informed whistling in the dark, check this Nation article explaining why the Senate is supposedly not insane enough to pass this shit sandwich.

    And yet look at The Maverick and Lindsay folding like cheap tents before the Donald’s bullshit arguments when he was obviously losing it.

    We are well and truly fucked.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Can the estate of James Garner sue Colonel Kurtz for appropriating Maverick culture?

    • HazooToo

      What the fuck happened to my optimism?!

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        Covfefe.

      • Lori

        Republicans

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      There are very few sure things in life. One of them is that McCain and Miss Lindsay will sanctimoniously grandstand, then slink off quietly to be good little Germans.

    • Covfefe

      The Maverick was a victim in the Keating Five scandal.

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    Some really good books on what caused the collapse . Too Big To Fail, The Monster, Reckless Endangerment. Any of them are very insightful

    • Thiazin Red

      If you want the story in movie form Margin Call is good. My boyfriend is in corporate law, and has been dealing directly with this stuff for years, and says that Margin Call is the most accurate depiction of it.

      • therblig

        i don’t remember it getting much publicity when it came out, but i watched it on netflix and found it pretty absorbing.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Wow. Those “Pocahontas” jokes never get old, do they?

  • jesterpunk

    Remember when Republicans investigate Jimmy Carter over his peanut farm to see if he violated the Emoluments Clause?

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1979/05/20/page/25/article/did-carter-run-shell-game

    http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rachel-maddow-show/2016-11-16

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      BOTH SIDES!

    • Three Finger Salute

      Remember when Republicans investigated the Bushes’ oil fortunes to see if they violated the Emoluments Clause?

      No, I don’t either.

      • Rick Hill

        I believe I read that even both Bushes put everything into a blind trust

        • Three Finger Salute

          As opposed to a deaf and dumb one, which would mean W inherits the whole thing.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent
      • jesterpunk

        Why not both? But Schneiderman did win the Trump U lawsuit and shut down Trump’s slush fund.

  • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent
    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      The Second Amendment says nothing about it!

  • HazooToo

    Son I am able she said though you scare me watch said I beloved I said watch me scare you though said she able am I son https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7734b173e1184550bfa50a4273d42236068ebf98843f324341d1f6c98f23d995.png

    • Shanzgood

      Woohoo! Wonkbabby!

    • HazooToo

      I really want to go to one of these but I also don’t want to leave my house. Boo. But I’m glad you had a great time!

    • shastakoala

      Aww wonderful pics.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I am envious. Hey Wonfolk – Maryland!

    • mancityRed6

      the last time I was …scratch that
      the only time I was on Belle Island was for a dog show, that the doggy lady ex won with her sloughi
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd0ksRakXNg
      I still want one

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    “Doing away with that provision alone could boost profits at big banks by more than $2 billion next year.”

    That $2B won’t be printed up by the Fed – it will be sucked out of the economy by the vampire banks, and largely converted to executive bonuses (and, presumably, more payments to their lobbyists.)

    • Jamoche

      WTF does a bank profit do for the economy anyway? They just move money around, they don’t make anything. Obviously they need some profit otherwise that indicates the money isn’t moving at all, but there’s got to be an upper limit to that.

      Or am I just being sensible?

      • jesterpunk

        Those yachts and mansions wont pay for themselves. The CEO’s need yuge bonuses.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Great! Is this going to allow Wells Fargo to charge me 2.00 every time I call customer service? That was fun!

  • Jamoche
  • HazooToo
    • MizzMazz

      Aww, she’s a Ball Python, and I miss my girl so much. Moved into a No Exotics housing place.

      • HazooToo

        I have too many lovely people who are squicked by snakes, or I would probably get one.

        • MizzMazz

          I loved my snakes. Had the Ball Python like above, a rescue from a stoner dude, and once she got eating she grew real big, then a Tangerine Honduran Milk snake and a Mexican King. The Ball Python is very shy, but I took her out for education purposes to my neighbors and kids who would come over and like to look at them. They get over the fear quickly, once they handle, and see how gentle snakes can be. I had this one neighbor who was terrified, and in 20 minutes she was on the phone to her sister, telling her, “I got me a snake on my lap!”

          They went to a good home, so for that I am happy, but I miss them.

    • mancityRed6

      I would prefer shorter spaghetti, but that’s just me

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      Remember when they crucified Obama for no experience?

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    This is what I do for a living…when I’m not driving people out the door of shitty bars or dicking around on Wonkette. I’ll answer the obvious question in advance: I generally wear pants while I’m at it. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/28a3162ba1b0a82eab3e7818f561d7ab982ac76e57c39634f3b985be361a7452.jpg

    • mancityRed6
      • Three Finger Salute
        • mancityRed6

          I’ll trade ya’

          • Three Finger Salute

            Nah, I wish I could do something. I wouldn’t wish this life on my worst enemy :

          • mancityRed6

            you and me both. I have my cats and my job, and the Target for groceries nearby…plus about 3 liquor stores. it’s not helping me.

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

            My life isn’t totally awful, but I’m working when I wish I could be retired and I’m just too tired to indulge in creative pursuits.

          • mancityRed6

            I see that in my future.

          • mancityRed6

            I know what I do on my days off and I kinda don’t want to ever be retired.

        • Cat Cafe for the Investigation
          • Ill-Advised

            So do we all! Well, me, anyway. Yours is better.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        CNC machining? I’d love to add that to my skill set.

      • Shanzgood

        You make things that make things work properly! That’s important!

        • mancityRed6

          tomorrow is busy work for the one woman in the shop to come in and do work that needs to be done. but it’s at least $120 for me

    • Shanzgood

      Beautiful!

    • MizzMazz

      Damn fine work. One thing about my ex was I could draw a picture of what I wanted, and he would knock it together. Miss good wood and power tools.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        There seems to be a reason we become exes though.

        • Shanzgood

          I doubt it was the wood.

        • MizzMazz

          We did have some fine times, and he taught me a lot. Just fought too much.

      • Cat Cafe for the Investigation

        Are those euphemisms?

    • Lori

      It’s beautiful.

    • Jamoche

      Oooh…
      I don’t have the space for it, so I make furniture like this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7d50a257a8eddb7854b73bafd832093299bcd4241179d3a769f699cc793b702d.jpg

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Goddamn that’s gorgeous,

    • Nice work A.p.i.d. Is that chechen and maple?

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Mesquite and maple. Difficult wood to work, and very expensive, but it’s become quite popular around these parts.

        • Good on you….lovely.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Thank you, that’s very kind.

        • Ωbjectifier

          Mesquite? Id like to be your saw salesman.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Yeah…it’s hell on edge tools. There are beetles that bore into it and the inclusions they create fill with sap and dirt. Instantly dulls anything it touches.

          • Ωbjectifier

            Not to mention the wood itself is super dense. That’s a beautiful piece!

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Thank you.

          • Zyxomma

            OTOH, it makes lovely smoke for grilling or a smoking gun. Gorgeous work.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            I always make good use of the scraps throwing them on the barbie.

    • GreenGoldSharpie

      Got a website for when I get my own place? ;-)

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        I do. I’m reluctant to use Wonkette as my personal grift forum though. If I could figure out a way to share it privately, I would.

        • GreenGoldSharpie

          If we’re still here when that time comes I’ll figure out how to get it privately. I promise. :-)

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            You’ve got it, come the post-apocalypse!

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

          https://getnada.com

          use this site to generate throwaway eMail accounts so I can exchange contact info privately.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Thanks, A.E.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            Quite welcome. :) I think Jesterpunk was the one showed me.

    • Shanzgood

      Apparently, the job skills I’ve acquired over 20 years in the same field are now replaceable with a degree (required) and 1-2 years of experience (optional) and only worth $10-12 per hour. Well, that’s just the main one. The going rate for the other one is $25, apparently.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        $10-12 an hour?? Where do I sign up?

        • I was about to say….

        • Shanzgood

          $12/hr was okay for me 15+ years ago. Not so much now.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      VERY nice!

    • pussygrabber in chief

      That’s gorgeous. The revelation about the pants-wearing is disappointing.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        I live to fail at expectations.

        • vivian

          Once again, I’m fairly sure you are me.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            A little disturbing there is more than one of us…or me.

          • vivian

            I’m pretty sure I’m the redundancy. You make beautiful furniture. I, uh, I, … uh… *looks around*… *shrugs*

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Btw, the “prom vomit” quip you made was gold. I had the guys in the band rolling on the floor with that one. Definitely part of my permanent snark vocabulary from here on out.

    • tehbaddr

      It’s a piece of furniture, right? Oooo, I know it’s a table or something like that?

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        It’s a can opener.

        • tehbaddr

          Very sly how you put the metal working parts out of sight!

        • Doug Langley

          Place an order for me. I have a hankering for clams.

    • smr

      Stunning!

    • vivian

      Okay, this is fucking amazing work. But what’s the hang-up with the pants? Disturbing.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        I knew I should’ve kept me yap shut about that. Sorry.

    • shivaskeeper

      Beautiful. I love the live edge.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        You often don’t have a choice with mesquite, but thanks!

        • shivaskeeper

          I’ve never worked with mesquite before. But I have noticed live edge becoming more of a thing around the areas I work in.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            George Nakashima pioneered the concept 40 years ago, but it’s only fairly recently that it’s become fairly popular. I tend to prefer-like in the table shown-a straight, sawn edge with the occasional live indent in it.

          • shivaskeeper

            Live edge, indents, knots, spalting, and really anything else to give a piece it’s unique character is goodness. I can spend hours going through all the wood at the ill I go to for my hardwoods. It is never time wasted.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Do you build furniture as well? I’d love to see some of your work if you would like to share a photo.

            I love wood too, and OT, but the University of Arizona is ground zero for the study of dendrochronology, or tree ring research. It’s a fascinating subject; they built a new building a few years ago and commissioned me to do a couple of conference tables for them. Getting a tour through their collections of wood they’ve accumulated from around the world over the years was a very moving experience for me…to hold a piece of bristlecone pine that was middle-aged at the time of Jesus. Wow. I felt like I was wandering through a U.N. World Heritage site.

          • shivaskeeper

            Mostly outdoor furniture. Rocking chairs, custom picnic tables, that sort of thing. Nothing like that table as far as the furniture goes. I do custom bookshelves on occasion. And lots of cutting boards.

            No pics on this computer, as I haven;t finished transfer things from the old one.

            I understand about bristlecone.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Love to see it if you ever chose to share. I have a general appreciation and interest in the craft. I just got a nice note on Facebook from a friend thanking me for the cutting board I made for her decades ago.

          • shivaskeeper

            I’ll dig some pics up and post them, but it probably won’t be until tomorrow.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Great. I’ll look for them.

    • Yr. Gma

      I appreciate a good piece of furniture. I had an uncle who was a cabinet maker who branched out into custom caskets. He did beautiful work, and his “boxes” went for a pretty penny. He used to say he had sawdust in his veins.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        That’s pretty cool, actually. And literally. And a growth market to boot!

    • Juan de Fuca

      That is fucking gorgeous. You have a website? I love art and people who make wood into nice things and I even tried making a coffee table from jarrah wood myself while living in Oz. Didn’t turn out exactly as I hoped.

      Still in the market for a something like that, though. Gorgeous.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Thanks Juan. Coming someone I respect as much as you, that means a lot to me. I do have a website…as I mentioned below, I’m reluctant to misuse Wonkette for my own ends. Maybe I can figure out a way to get you that info privately.

        • Juan de Fuca

          Yeah, I’m still catching up on some of the comments and just saw where you mentioned it below. I get that.

          But damn…I dunno.

          I’d at least consider posting a link on your profile but then again, ya got dipshits with RWNJ rage issues on here and nobody has time for that in the real world.

          That is gorgeous art though. You’ve got a gift, sir.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Right? Thank you, my friend. I hope things are getting sorted out with your daughter. I’ve been wanting to ask you about it, but don’t want to pry into a sensitive subject. But maybe you put the fear of God into her fiancé?

          • Juan de Fuca

            Nah, it’s working out fine. She’s got a gift for her own art and her fiance knows it. She’ll go far if she sticks with it and some people within her industry are already beginning to notice. Future son-in-law has a talent also, a very gifted young dude and a good young man. It’s going to work out just fine, just takes some mentoring along the way. I joke about it on here to relieve tension because we both know how raising kids can get a little stressful at times but I wouldn’t change a thing.

            What’s funny is that I tried raising her to be a network engineer when she was younger but she was driven to art. At first I was like – art? She said, “You told me to follow my dream and do what I love.”

            True dat. Probably had something to do with Mrs de Fuca and I taking to her art museums and stuff while she was growing up. I couldn’t be more proud of this girl. She’s got a gift like you do.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Sounds like you did it all right, my friend…raised a confident, fearless young woman who is passionate about life and pursuing her goals. As we both know, it doesn’t always work out the way you hope, but how exciting to have a child who is interested in the path less travelled. I’m glad you’ve found some peace with it, and I wish only the best for her and for you and your family.

    • not_vh

      naaaice!!!!!

  • mancityRed6

    no ’70s stuff this Friday, ’cause I’m going to work tomorrow. hey, $40 less than my usual 96 hour check is definitely good.
    Imma try to head downtown, after work. I’ll have my knife ready, though. ’cause I need it for work, right?

  • Bill D. Burger

    “We won’t forget you Donny boy! Now start all that winning.”

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB6idkgV0AAA4dt.jpg

    • Shanzgood

      *snicker*

  • Duke

    Just back from a long scooter ride. Grabbed a snack at a taco truck. It’s summer on the tundra.

  • IdiokraticDrumpfenResistance

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9fd39c08100aebb114342ab1b302ee601fd80235851ef0bf2852c7fed7b4c35.jpg “Scientists estimate the spill will be thirty miles inland by sunset at it’s current rate of speed.”

    • Kiri the Unicorn
      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        how lovely! :)

        • Kiri the Unicorn

          A double box I bought a couple years ago. Eventually I’ll have in-flight photos of my whole collection!

          • Phoenixdoglover

            Love it! Brings back a memory…

            We had a kite building contest in my High School physics class. I built 3 kites; one of them was a box kite with a 6 ft wingspan.

            We had a brisk wind for the contest out on the soccer field. What I did not understand was the force exerted by a kite that size. The kite flew beautifully! And it dragged me across the field.

            Alas, I had to let go of the line or be impaled on the fence. Thus ended the maiden flight.

          • Kiri the Unicorn
  • BMW

    demcrats r teh real wall strete sell outs!
    nobama and $hillary took donations frum them and thas moar importent than whut laws they achully past!
    #draintheswamp

  • Bill D. Burger
    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      He called Comey a nut job. People who excuse that from a President are irredeemable.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Cat Cafe for the Investigation

      And are STILL choosing to stay silent.

      • Canis Greyhame

        When there’s a toddler at the reception throwing tantrums and shitting in the punchbowl, after a while you have to start looking at the parents who sit there refusing to put a stop to their little brat’s behavior, making excuses instead.

  • jesterpunk
  • Bill D. Burger
    • Canis Greyhame

      and then some!

    • yyyaz

      If only the trophies will be retired with him.

  • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent
    • Covfefe

      Clients with Russian ties, other than Donald, you mean.

    • Lori

      This is one of the major problems with the good old boys system. When people get jobs and investment tips and networking opportunities through connections instead of actual merit acquaintance groups become incredibly enmeshed and inbred. I suspect that there’s no one in Trump’s circle who isn’t connected to Russia in some way.

      • Cat Cafe for the Investigation

        Feature, not a bug

        • Lori

          I should have been more clear that I meant major problem for decent people and the world at large, but certainly not for those participating in the circle jerk.

    • Bill D. Burger

      So does his new pick for FBI director….surprise! I know….

      Donald Trump’s new FBI director pick has Russian ties of his own
      Kenneth F. McCallion, Opinion contributor Published 5:00 a.m. ET June 8, 2017 | Updated 11 hours ago
      Christopher Wray looks good on paper, but his law firm represents Russian-controlled oil companies.

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/08/trump-new-fbi-director-chris-wray-russian-ties-rosneft-gazprom-column/102603214/

      • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

        Like Jim Wright says regularly these days, damn, there sure are a lot of Russians around here…

    • Canis Greyhame

      Something about this first tweet really struck me as odd. Why go so far as to declare complete & total vindication after the Comey testimony? What was it that Comey didn’t tell us that seems to have them all so relieved? Maybe something they thought he had proof of, but didn’t explicitly deliver on (at least, not in open session).

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873120139222306817

      • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

        “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

        –some nazi

      • Doug Langley
      • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

        You’re overthinking it. Remember, this is Trump we’re talking about, and he’s fucking mental. He’s gonna testify? “100%!” Riiiiiight. He said what he felt he had to say in that instant. Also too, the tweets are meant for his fans, who didn’t watch the hearing, don’t read/watch real news shows, and take everything he says at face value.

    • Alan

      Oh yeah, he’s a slimeball.

    • jesterpunk

      We need an investigation to see if he has any ties to the US.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • WomanInThePersistence

    So I am back from walking my dog. And now im going to watch “Strictly Ballroom”. I’ll keep you all updated.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      Is that the original Japanese film or the American remake? Can’t remember. The original is great so I never bothered to see the remake.

      O/T can anyone think of a movie remake that was better than the original?

      • Lori

        “Strictly Ballroom” is Australian and AFAIK there hasn’t been a remake. I think you’re thinking of “Shall We Dance.”

        • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

          Oh yes, you’re right. Thanks!

      • Zyxomma

        Dredd was far, far better than Judge Dredd. 12 Monkeys was far, far better than La Jetée.

      • Alan

        It’s Australian.

    • Lori

      I love Strictly Ballroom, I may have to dig out my copy and have a rewatch of my own.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        It’s on the youtubes.

  • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

    I find this image deeply unsettling. It’s how I feel nearly every day and will feel until trump and the Repubs are no longer in power. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bc652cbde8901804b8aaed55c63a5e882a37dcb4ce714ed38e44603ca3436b4e.png

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      I take comfort in the fact that Trump has infuriated the IC community and payback will be coming. Perhaps not as swiftly as we’d like, but it will be.

      GOP leaders are a waste (because they’re in with Russia up to their asses as well) but I am confident that many true patriots are working to bring Trump down, probably many in the FBI.

      I mean if some asshole came in and fired my respected boss for corrupt reasons, I would do anything possible to bring that asshole down.

      • Cat Cafe for the Investigation

        ^^^THIS^^^ also, kudos on your latest username

      • C4TWOMAN

        Love em or hate em…and the IC community does have a dark past…it’s rank stupidity to go poking that bear–and then whine when it rips your arm off.

  • Zyxomma

    Sigh. I need some comic relief. I got it here: http://juanitajean.com/friday-toons-232/ Some of you know that I temp/freelance as a legal and financial proofreader. One of my last gigs was a stultifying, horrifying glimpse at the world of high finance, checking EDGAR forms against the Word/Excel documents they came from. On form after form after form, I saw charts including Worst Quarter, ending 31 Dec 08, followed by Best Quarter, AFTER WE BAILED THEM OUT. Yes, I saw this again and again and again. I was very pleased to be alone in the room while I proofread, because every time I saw this, I could have been heard to mutter “fucking fuckers” to myself, had there been anyone to hear. The fucking fuckers who stole 20% of America’s wealth, and then got bailed out with taxpayer funds so we wouldn’t be stuck in Great Depression 2.0 for the foreseeable future, do not need fewer regulations, they need MORE of them. Otherwise, they’re going to rip off more pension funds, homes, etc.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Uh oh….guess New York Attorney general “…isn’t even people” according to Fredo and/or Duey Trump, huh?

    [JUN 9, 2017 @ 01:18 PM 45,955 The Little Black Book of Billionaire Secrets
    New York Attorney General Looking Into Eric Trump Foundation
    Dan Alexander , FORBES STAFF

    By Dan Alexander and Matt Drange

    The New York attorney general, which has been investigating the Donald J. Trump Foundation for months, is now looking into the Eric Trump Foundation, after a report in Forbes exposed practices that seem to violate state laws.

    “The attorney general’s office is looking into the issues raised by this report,” said Eric Soufer, the communications director for the New York state attorney general.]

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/09/new-york-attorney-general-looking-into-eric-trump-foundation/#6876e9041075

    • OrG

      Lock that little shit ass up!

      • hillarysleftone

        snark off for a second–it really pissed me off when, caught profiteering off sick kids, this little fuckwad decried the purported absence of morals of the bad-asses who caught his sniveling ass. Like: how dare they, what’s the world coming to, but what can you expect in these modern hateful times etc.

        Hope they put him UNDER the fucking jailhouse

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      I’ll repeat. I can’t decide if Comey or Schneiderman is my new boyfriend.

  • tehbaddr

    I see no problem here. Does any Wonker have tips about taking out a second mortgage on my refrigerator box under the over pass down by the river? Hey, don’t judge me!

  • WomanInThePersistence

    “I’ve only been dancing for 2 years. So I havent got a partner yet.”

    Strictly Ballroom

  • HazooToo
    • Canis Greyhame

      Their great mistake was ordering from Papa Johns.
      Everything after that was just karma.

  • IdiokraticDrumpfenResistance
    • Suse

      You could tell that Ryan didn’t believe a word of it by his facial cues.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      In any private-sector job, he’d have been canned after a week.

      • IdiokraticDrumpfenResistance

        He probably never had to work for anyone other than his dad.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Trump’s lawyer: Comey violated executive privilege.

    10 legal experts: No, he didn’t.

    Updated by Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Jun 9, 2017, 9:50am EDT

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/9/15764954/comey-testimony-donald-trump-fbi-executive-privilege

    Additionally, Trump and his lawyer’s threat to “go after Comey legally” is the worst possible thing they could have said out loud for it could amount to ‘illegal retaliation’ and that carries a 10 year maximum prison sentence.
    18 U.S. Code § 1513: Retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant.

    Section (e) of the statute prohibits people from, “knowingly, with the intent to retaliate, tak[ing] any action harmful to any person, including interference with the lawful employment or livelihood of any person, for providing to a law enforcement officer any truthful information relating to the commission or possible commission of any Federal offense.” And it’s a criminal statute, carrying a penalty of up to 10 years in prison.]

    Be interesting to see if Trump & his shyster are stupid enough to try it.
    Comey, it appears, has considered the whole matter very carefully and has out maneuvered them at every possible turn.

    http://lawnewz.com/important/team-trumps-plan-to-go-after-comey-sounds-a-lot-like-illegal-retaliation/

    • Left Coast Tom

      I think it’s fair to say that a lawyer who can’t spell the word “President” isn’t someone to listen to regarding legal questions associated with the “Presidency”.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Elvis Presidency? Yeah, he was a really great guy. People are gonna be talking about him. Believe me.

      • Canis Greyhame

        I don’t understand even how these guys keep fucking-up basic spelling, as if autocorrect didn’t exist.

        • Three Finger Salute

          He fired Clippy.

          • Canis Greyhame

            “Screw you, Siri, I’m the BOSS, and I say it’s spelled ‘predisent’!”

          • Doug Langley

            “You look like you’re trying to grift the government! Need help?”

        • Left Coast Tom

          I wonder if they’re still using IE 6 on Windows XP? That would, at least, explain how the Russians would be able to constantly own their shit.

          • Three Finger Salute

            ERROR 4F EPIC_FAIL_BIGLY

            A problem has been detected and your phone has been seized to prevent damage to the country.

  • Ninja0980

    So if bodyslam a reporter, you get elected to Congress by Republicans but if are a left leaning CNN host, you call the President a POS, you’ll get fired.
    Got to love it.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Because it’s 1984.

    • Suse

      And Jeffrey Lord is allowed to stay.

    • Who got fired now?

      • Suse

        The guy on CNN who did the faith stories, I think.

  • Suse

    What outrageousness would Drumpf have to commit to cause the GOoPs to say, “That’s it! We’re sick of this asshole. He’s got to go”? I know all the stuff about their agenda and all that, but really, isn’t there some sort of threshold here?

    • jesterpunk

      Work with democrats?

    • Lori

      If he does something that causes rich people to lose substantial sums of money he’ll be out on his ass in a week. Other than that, no.

      • Jamoche

        The guy can’t make money with a casino, so it seems like that would be inevitable. Could all this draw enough attention to Russian money that the other rich guys can’t get loans there anymore?

        • Lori

          Maybe? I don’t have enough knowledge of the way the oligarchs have their tentacles in the global market to know, but it’s certainly an interesting thought.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      We’re all waiting to find out.

      • Paperless Tiger

        I reckon we will, too. Trump seems determined to prove he can break the law and get away with it. For now, it looks like he can.

    • Doug Langley

      Say “You know, that Obama guy’s not so bad after all”?

    • Ninja0980

      Nominate liberal judges to the courts.

      • Lori

        Naw. They would just refuse to confirm them and move on.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      I’m starting to believe that he really could murder someone and get away with it.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Whatever it is, it has to be caught on tape and be unequivocally evidence of a crime.

    • He’d have to eat live kittens on stage while performing an abortion to a gay lesbian while a muslim or black sings behind him

      • Suse

        lmao!

        • While wearing an american flag diaper and taking a leak on a cross, also, too.

          • Suse

            Will there be gay pee hookers?

      • pussygrabber in chief

        I dunno. I think the GOP would get behind the live-kitten eating.

    • Yr. Gma

      At some point he will become more trouble than he’s worth.

    • Persistent Demme

      They will only bail if his approval rating goes waaaaay down.

    • Steely_Fan

      I think Charlie Pierce nails it, as usual:

      Washington these days is stuck in a kind of Cassandra Syndrome. Everybody knows the disaster is coming but nobody knows how to stop it, and too many people don’t want to because they figure they can get rich selling off the ruins. But everybody knows the disaster is coming. People talk about it matter-of-factly, the way they talk about rain when the dark clouds gather over the monuments by the river. They also talk about it in whispers while every institution of democratic government screams for help. The government of the United States is in the hands of feckless time-servers and coat-holders at one end of Pennsylvania Avenue, and in the hands of an unpredictable and perilous clown show at the other. It is an altogether remarkable, if terrifying, place to be as summer comes on.

      Jesus, won’t somebody get the net?

      And when it does blow up in their faces I believe the Rethuglican party will be irreparably damaged, at least until they once again try to induce mass amnesia on their brain-dead followers as they have so many times before. Driftglass sums it up nicely:

      In fact, the very reason for our present crisis is that our country is drowning in a vast, Republican-inflicted, media-enabled conspiracy of forgetting, and once we start down the road of remember our own past, the entire Conservative universe — from Brooks to Hannity — begins to fall apart.

      http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55563/trump-testify-under-oath-comey/

      https://driftglass.blogspot.com/

      • i keep forgetting: Preet Bharara was in the house.

  • Picabo
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Snark way the fuck off…

    My father died an untimely early death a few year ago (my grandmother outlived him FFS), and I couldn’t figure out why until I went through his papers and saw that the 2008 economic implosion cut the value of his retirement savings in half. Did I mention that he retired in 2008?

    People will die if this happens. I wish I were joking or being melodramatic. Fuck.

    • Suse

      I’m sorry. Everything they’re doing is going to cause people to die – no health insurance, no clean air/water, financial ruin, nasty racist rhetoric, ad nauseum.

      • Wild Cat

        It’s why we should divest and put our $$$ in credit unions. Lesser of two evils.

        • Suse

          Or keep it under the mattress.

          • Wild Cat

            A credit union money market is very low risk, Suse. But yeah, maybe a mattress—they may confiscate everything from us that is visible.

    • Picabo

      So will I. Sorry for your loss.

  • C4TWOMAN

    Open thread is open…

    Discussing Hamlet with the Senate Intelligence Committee:

    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/senate-intelligence-committees-post-show-discussion-of-hamlet

  • WomanInThePersistence

    She’s got no body flight.

    Strictly Ballroom

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl
  • delete your account probably
  • Juan de Fuca

    This is what happens when you fire the director of the FBI because he wouldn’t obstruct a national security investigation and later Tweet that the fired FBI director lied under oath about why he was fired:

    https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/873274950316163073

    • C4TWOMAN

      Got two weeks. Can’t wait to see the spin…

      • Juan de Fuca

        Impeach this clown and get it over with.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      HAHAHA Adam Schiff is my new boyfriend.

      Linky re: the Smoking Gun tape

      “This is the transcript and recording of a meeting between President Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman, in the Oval Office on June 23, 1972.”

      http://watergate.info/1972/06/23/the-smoking-gun-tape.html

      • Juan de Fuca

        And to think Watergate was just about a domestic burglary. This entire cover up is about covering up for another country trying to highjack our election.

        WTF, dude?

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Suse

      Haha!

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Needz moar Alex Jones.

    • C4TWOMAN

      6. Brietbart haemorrhages advertisers and tanks from lack of funding

    • Paperless Tiger

      Needs moar Macedonia.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    Just because I can’t deal with reality right now.

    https://youtu.be/WRx0b993Lj4

  • Suse

    I was here last night after hours. Boy, the late shift is quite different. I didn’t know anyone.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

    When I walked to the store this morning, some dude thought I was looking at him, but I was looking at a car that had a “Cobra Command” from GI Joe sticker on the rear window.

    • Not gonna lie, if I saw a car with a cobra command sticker on it, I would yell at them
      AND NOW YOU KNOW AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE
      and/or COBRA COMMANDER WAS A WIMP

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        I pattern myself after Lady Jaye from GI Joe. She was everything I wanted to be – tough, attractive, a good fighter, and sexy as hell. Even her scratchy voice was sexy.

        When I saw the Cobra sticker, I was thinking I’d like to meet the person that would put that on a car.

  • mancityRed6

    You’ve heard the song, now watch it being recorded:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfH263OAG0A

    • i must confess i’m getting a tad sick of jello showing up on my shuffle. i realize he’s more pertinent than ever but he always harshes my morning mello.

      and then i get pissed off.

  • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

    I know y’all will be shocked SHOCKED to learn that Mike Pence is a liar.

    Bell in my brain was ringing so I looked it up.

    From the transcript:

    Ron Wyden – Oregon:
    Vice President pence was the head of the transition. To your knowledge, was he aware of the concerns about Michael Flynn prior to or during General Flynn’s tenure as national security adviser?

    James Comey: I don’t — you’re asking including up to the time when Flynn was forced to resign, my understanding is he was. And I’m trying to remember where I get that understanding from. I think from Acting Attorney General Yates.

    http://time.com/4810345/james-comey-testimony-real-time-transcript/

  • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly
  • Michael R

    Rachel Maddow reveals why Trump was not under investigation then —
    but he might be now

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/rachel-maddow-reveals-why-trump-was-not-under-investigation-then-but-he-might-be-now/

    • Canis Greyhame

      See, that’s what I’m talking about! Those assholes are acting like they dodged a bullet with Comey’s testimony, but they seem to have forgotten about Mueller.

      • I did not get that anyway. He said criminal investigation at the time, right?
        he did not say not being investigated ever

        • jesterpunk

          He said no counter intelligence investigation and explained the difference between that and a criminal investigation.

          • that was it, counter intelligence.
            But NOT criminal XD That is what I meant

          • Canis Greyhame

            Starting to wonder if the Trump reaction indicates that maybe he SHOULD be under a counterintelligence investigation.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Why would Trump be investigated for anything resembling intelligence?

          • jesterpunk

            That would go well with the criminal investigations.

  • Lori

    A nice article that touches on a small silver lining to Der Fubar’s stay in the White House—the fact that it’s causing so many women to overcome impostor syndrome and run for office,

    “But if there can be a silver lining to his very existence, it’s that he’s spurred an unprecedented number of women to run for office. Women who might have held themselves back until they had more experience or more confidence are saying “fuck that” and stepping up. It’s not like they could be less experienced or do a worse job than the man currently holding the highest political office in the country. In fact, they could probably do a whole lot more good, and shift this country (as Fisher and Witherspoon wanted to do with their specific industry) toward the version of itself they want to see. And there’s nothing like seeing someone terrible shifting that dial in a terrible direction to make you realize your own potential.”

    http://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/what-script-was-so-bad-it-drove-reese-witherspoon-to-start-her-own-production-company.php

  • WomanInThePersistence

    I’ve always thought this was rather sweet.

    https://youtu.be/8uRYgVTECdQ

    • :snuggle: You haz all the bestest stuff

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I’m watching “Strictly Ballroom” again. It’s on YouTube, btw. Because I just need something happy.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Meanwhile Trump gets stinking richer. He may own significant assets in Russia now. Lately, he seems to be working to dissolve the emoluments clause. This guy is a genius. Too bad he’s a criminal.

    • He is not the genius. His handlers are, in concert. Especially if everything is currently in the foundation or company name- would not be much for He Went to Jared to depose the lads and papa legally

      • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

        I may not be understanding what you said the way you meant it, but I’m not willing to proclaim anyone in his circle a genius until I see proof (i.e. tax returns) that he is as rich as he claims to be.

        I mean it takes a special kind of stupid to have to declare bankruptcy on a gambling business–and not once but several times.

      • Lori

        I don’t think it’s even his handlers, it’s some of his partners. The best deal Trump ever did was one his Chinese partners essentially forced him into. He didn’t want anything to do with it. It made him a shit load of money, unlike stuff that originated with the Trump organization that ended in tears and bankruptcy court.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      RICO is coming for him. This was two years ago. A leopard doesn’t change its spots.

      http://fortune.com/2015/02/11/trump-taj-mahal-casino-settles-u-s-money-laundering-claims/

      • Three Finger Salute

        Rico? Rico Suave? Yeah, great guy, really great guy. Lotta people are gonna start talking about him.

    • akryan

      I think the thing that gets him is going to be financial crimes that he committed before he ever became president. I hope he gets dragged out of the White House in handcuffs and thrown in jail for fraud and money laundering.

      • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

        He will. I’m sure of it.

  • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent
    • Juan de Fuca

      I agree with the commenter who mentioned something about how Trump stated three different times that he wasn’t under investigation when he fired Comey.

      Innocent people really don’t do that.

    • Lori

      If we survive this Simon is going to write a freaking fantastic TV show about it.

      • I say Lin Manuel Miranda will write a genius fucking musical about it

        • Lori

          No reason we can’t have both. If we make it to the finish line of Cheeto’s reign of error we’ll both need and deserve all the silver linings we can get.

  • Kiri the Unicorn
    • OrG

      Iggy coming to Portland. Again!

  • IdiokraticDrumpfenResistance
  • Three Finger Salute

    The Zuckerborg Hive Mind demands assimilation.

    Facebook files patent for way to detect your emotions

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/facebook-files-patent-for-way-to-detect-your-emotions/

    • OrG

      Hey facebook, FUCK YOU! Detect that emotion.

  • efoveks

    There is going to be a rally “against Sharia Law”– because it’s a Thing, somewhere…– in Roseville (CA) tomorrow, at the Fountains. On the news this evening, it sounded like a veiled excuse for more fascist/ antifascist action. Un-freakin-believable. Store owners and police are concerned about potential violence.

    http://www.actforamerica.org/Rally

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

      Reich Wingers are such mewling cowards that it is really offensive to me. They are afraid of *everything*. We live in a nation overrun with Christian privilege, yet they worry about some other religious privilege in countries halfway across this benighted planet.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        The thing they’re afraid of can’t even be done here. Somebody help me out with the citation, please.

        • efoveks

          That it would violate the First Amendment, makes it unConstitutional, for starters.

          • Lori

            Rule #1—it’s always projection with them. Given the violence they’ve done to the definition of religious freedom it’s no wonder they’re afraid of Sharia. They always fear others doing to them what they’ve done.

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            I was thinking specifically about the bit that addresses foreign laws.

      • efoveks

        IKR?

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        Not only that: they are ignorant about the meaning of sharia. They might as well be opposed to Christians who say they live by God’s law and want everyone else to live by it, too. I find it much more concerning that a fraction of RW Christians are trying to turn the country into a theocracy.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

          Indeed, and Aye. I’ll die before I bow to anyone’s theocracy, and I’ll die fighting for damned sure.

        • Three Finger Salute

          They’ve already turned it into an idiocracy. Mushing the people’s minds is the first step before getting them to accept superstitious totalitarianism.

      • TJ Barke

        As people that seek to oppress others, they’re of course terrified that everyone else wants to oppress them. That anyone just wants to be left alone or to simply cooperate are alien concepts to them.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

          Well put. Like the fools that are afraid of *me*. The most frightening thing I might do is natter on about Star Trek.

          • C4TWOMAN

            OMG YOU MONSTER

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            Monster? Like the Horta, the “Devil in the Dark”? An overlooked aspect of that episode is the Kirk/Spock thing gets pretty open when Spock gets worried about Kirk’s safety.

          • TJ Barke

            No kill I.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            “You think you’re pretty tough with that Starship. Well, you can’t get a Starship down in those tunnels.”

          • SisterArtemis

            Now, there’s a classic!

          • C4TWOMAN

            I liked the Horta.
            NO KILL I

            Nah, things might get heated if we’re in a knock down dragout nerdfight over whether Voyager was good or not.
            I’m a fan, while acknowledging its weaknesses…but some people, oh man, they hate it.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            I still haven’t seen all of VOY. My favorite on there is Tom Paris, I can really relate to him.

            Star Trek Online is set like 50 years laters, and they’ve brought back a bunch of VOY actors to voice their characters. Tuvok is an Admiral, Tom and Harry are Captains, and Seven and the Doc are on hand as well.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Sounds good. Janeway was my favourite, though Seven was a close second.

            I don’t do serious computer gaming because I know I have addiction predispositions to that kinda thing, so best not to tempt fate, yeh?

            The JJ Abrams reboot has been a mixed bag for me. I wasn’t too thrilled with the mini skirts–then someone explained they’re rebooting the style too–so okay whatever.
            The first was very good. The second fun but had plot holes big enough for a world destroyer, and the last was okay. But I found I really liked Chris Pine after his stint on SNL, more than I like his Kirk–he just seems like a really nice guy. Character wise I like Spock, but then I always liked Spock, from the first time I watched when I was 4.

            RIP Leonard Nemoy.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            RIP. Nimoy is a personal hero to me.

            I liked the 09 Trek movie, but I haven’t seen the others. I bought a cheap costume of Uhura’s Reboot miniskirt, but it fits me like a t-shirt. xD

            Edit: I lied! No, actually I’ve lost enough weight that this is now a *very* short Microdress. xD

          • pussygrabber in chief

            What is this “Voyager” of which you speak?

          • C4TWOMAN

            And so it begins…
            * duh dun *

          • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly
          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            Poor Schmitter.

          • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly

            I love how Spock handled the ‘chunk’ of Horta flesh and then mind melded with it even though it’s flesh was full of corrosive acid.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            Luck of the Vulcans. Like in “Obsession” when the Cloud creature is coming thru the broken air vent and he tried to block it with his hands. WTF, Spock?

          • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly

            The creature can move at warp speed, but a vent can suck it back in by reversing the flow. WUWT?

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

            Forget it Jake, it’s Roddenberry. xD

          • Persistent Demme

            THE PAIN!!
            THE PAIN!!

          • pussygrabber in chief

            One of my favorite episodes. I still tear up when Spock mind melds with poor Horta.

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          They also think everything is zero sum.

      • The Fathers Initiative

        This comment of yours brings ignorance to new heights. First, in Muslim majority countries, they’re not just ‘privileged’. They’re ruled by ideology. As for Christian privilege? Everybody knows Jews are privileged. But, do you really think we’re just worried about trivial things? No way. We’re concerned about much more than that. For example: Our school students are being subverted by cultural Marxist propaganda. It’s a serious concern. But, you wouldn’t understand living in your private gated community. Yea, how long with that last ??

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          (1) If you can’t state a position without using personal insults, Fuck Off. (2) This forum doesn’t tolerate racism, so Fuck Off.

        • TJ Barke

          A wild IDIOT appeared!
          IDIOT used CULTURAL MARXISM!
          It’s not very effective…

          • The Fathers Initiative

            So, you think that Cultural Marxism is a joke ?? We are constantly being told how to think. and, the whole purpose is to corrupt society. Why would you consider that a silly issue? Ironically, they’re also using cultural Marxism to radicalize Islam. https://youtu.be/we-UnHoGRMM

          • TJ Barke

            I think you are a moron, that listens to morons, that spew moronic shit. Fun fact, the people that warn you that “You’re being told how to think” are telling you how to think. Pro tip; you’re the sheep.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Gavin McInnes is an ass. Get that Levant shit out of here.

          • Resistance Fighter Callyson

            Dafuq is “Cultural Marxism,” Souther Poverty Law Center?

            At around the same time, the white supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens produced a video — most of it a carbon copy of the FCF video on the same topic — called “Political Correctness: The Frankfurt School Story.”

            “Racism, sexism and chauvinism are powerful weapons in the Marxist psychological warfare against traditional American values,” it said. “Political correctness, the product of critical theory, is really treason against the U.S. Constitution and against America.”

            Working for social equality = cultural Marxism?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/649d9b532e59607c9940d35ea95f3a0b8baea6d155da2a2971be1312e78bfcd4.jpg

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        • Juan de Fuca

          But, do you really think we’re just worried about trivial things?

          You folks worry about invading hordes of Muslims when some nutcase drives over seven people in the UK but shrug everytime somebody goes on a shooting rampage in America, unless the shooter was a Muslim.

          So yeah, I personally think people like you worry about trivial things.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Shows how much you know. I don’t live in a gated community and probably most of us don’t. You sound like you were just released from one. How’s your bunkmate, Dylan Storm Front, doing these days?

        • jesterpunk
        • redarmyzombie
          • Three Finger Salute

            I hate Innernet Natzees.

        • Resistance Fighter Callyson

          Jews are privileged? How so? By having their community centers under constant threat of violence? Enduring economic antisemitism? Having to spend more on security to avoid violence?

          By trivializing these things, you make your ignorance quite clear TYVM…

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6bf2bdd93786d15a53ce9abb9e905675fd4218681ecf1da43c26582fa152f30f.jpg

        • Kiri the Unicorn

          I’m very fond of classical music. You?

          https://youtu.be/Jz1sBi0-130

    • OrG

      Why don’t they have it in Saudi Arabia?

      • efoveks

        Too hot! ;)

    • shivaskeeper

      There will be another one in Seattle as well. It was supposed to be in Portland but the organizers moved up to Seattle since there was that double homicide by someone screaming anti-Muslim shit at two girls and then stabbed the people who stood up for them, The organizers felt t would be in bad taste to continue on in Portland.

      There is a also going to be a fairly large counter rally at the same time. Mostly from various religious groups supporting the Muslims. We shall see how it goes as Seattle is expecting most of the Sharia Law protestors to be from out of town.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Never underestimate the ability of wingnuts to act in poor taste after a tragedy. The bodies of the 6 dead Muslims were still warm in Québec when Ezra Levant’s pitchfork mob and the Soldiers of Odin organized a “protest against Sharia” outside a mosque in Toronto. The MP who introduced the non-binding motion to study Islamophobia in Canada is under 24/7 police protection because of the incessant hate and death threats she received — which only increased after Sainte-Foy.

        • shivaskeeper

          I was actually surprised they moved it. They claim the protest isn’t about hate and fear (it is but about “education”) and the murders were definitely about anti-Muslim hate, so I think they had to at least pay lip service to their words and move it. This was the other rally that was planned in Portland with last week’s Trump Free Speech thing being the 1st one.

          • Three Finger Salute

            At what point does it cross the line from free speech into outright harassment? Whatever standard gets applied to the Westboro monsters ought to be applied to other groups of this ilk. Canada has much more strident protections against this sort of thing than the U.S. does, so it’s only a matter of time before that asshole Levant lands himself behind bars for inciting a riot and the Soldiers of Odin get raided by the RCMP.

          • shivaskeeper

            Westboro has almost no limits on what and where they can do their thing. They can come right up the graveside at a funeral and be asses if they want. The limits imposed on them as to how close they are allowed to harass people are the counter protestors. Until blows are thrown or someone gets hurt it’s not the government’s place to limit them.

            We cannot prosecute thought crimes. We cannot prosecute what someone might do. “We got the guy what done it” carries far more weight than “we got the guy what was maybe thinking about doing it”.

            Tat does not mean we have to listen to them, or not shout them down, or not call them out on their bullshit, or not plaster images of them engaging in shit like this for all the word to see. It just means the government can;t do it.

      • i heard this AM there’s supposed to be like 40 of them.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    Show me your paso doble!

    https://youtu.be/UUO5WPaIr-s

  • Picabo
    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Rectifiers, even.

      • Juan de Fuca

        Some of us are more like band-pass filters but your point is a good one.

    • not_vh

      and then man said let their be light, and turned on the switch so that we could continue seek wisdom even in darkness.

  • HazooToo
    • Lori

      When even the dog can’t stand the smell it’s time to give up on the new food.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      “Ergh…was it bad for you, too?”

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent
  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl
  • GreenGoldSharpie

    So, realistically, here’s where we are. We have Trump essentially condemned for firing Comey because of his Russian investigation and refusing to play ball, another Trump foundation under investigation for moving funds into the family plot, a lot more questions for Trump surrogates, including Sessions, about their relations to Russian authorities, and meanwhile the Republicans are determined to pursue policy completely alone in hopes the US population won’t know they’re rat fucking them on healthcare and preventing another near-depression.

    Well, fuck me, I was happy until the last two parts because rubes will vote for Pubbies anyway.

    Fuck this country.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl
    • gorgeous. i have always loved this song.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        This cover brings tears to my eyes. Disturbed have a lot of range and heart.

  • Three Finger Salute

    Most countries score F in LGBT rights protections — U.S. a tenuous C

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/most-countries-score-an-f-on-our-lgbt-human-rights-report-card/

    Maybe our “alliance” with gay-hating Russia is a reason? Not to mention this?

    Trump celebrates LGBT Pride by speaking at anti-LGBT conference

    http://www.metro.us/president-trump/trump-celebrates-pride-month-anti-lgbt-conference

    Countries that score an A:
    Belgium
    Canada
    Denmark
    Finland
    France
    Iceland
    Ireland
    Luxembourg
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Spain
    Sweden
    U.K.

    Trump wants to get the lowest golf score of presidential approval ratings, ever. I don’t doubt that he and the rest of his deplorable party want to be equal with Lord Putin in low scores for protecting people they hardcore hate.

    • efoveks

      “Trump wants to get the lowest golf score of presidential approval ratings, ever. ”

      XD!!!!!!11!!! Awesome!

    • TJ Barke

      And those countries are all well known godforsaken hellholes subjects to daily bombardments of sulfur and hell fire, replete with lepers and whores and other perversions.

  • HazooToo
  • Picabo
    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      But her emails…..

  • jaspersdad

    Saw this in the comments over at TPM:

    “Trump had brought it on himself. He had sued a reporter, accusing him of being reckless and dishonest in a book that raised questions about Trump’s net worth. The reporter’s attorneys turned the tables and brought Trump in for a deposition.”

    30 times they caught Trump lying under oath.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/trump-lies/

  • BrendaKay

    Nope. The Senate is insane enough to pass that… they do not care about the rest of us.

  • Suse
    • Three Finger Salute

      Sock puppets puppies :)

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Not a puppy. Not a puppy. You’re the puppy.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      It must be Puppy Burrito Friday.

      • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly

        What? No Diablo sauce???

        • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

          Srchihuahua sauce, of course.

    • TJ Barke
      • Suse

        Pretty. Looks like cattle dog or heeler.

      • Persistent Demme

        There’s a smart looking dog!

        • pussygrabber in chief

          Much smarter looking than Trey Gowdy.

  • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

    HAHAHA patting self on back (see my post quoting transcript down or upthread)

    GMTA and I am SMRT

    Comey says Pence was aware of Flynn problems as early as the transition, which means Pence lied

    http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/8/1669982/-Comey-says-Pence-was-aware-of-Flynn-problems-as-early-as-the-transition-which-means-Pence-lied?detail=emaildksc

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      I thought we already knew that…

      • redarmyzombie

        they do, but the more we point it out the less room they have to lie about it.

      • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

        Of course we did, but Comey confirmed it.

  • Maclare 🍰
    • Three Finger Salute

      Trump lied about not lying, and then lied about lying that he didn’t lie

      Lie-ception..

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    Here is what kept the Golden Ass entertained and away from Twitter yesterday:

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/while-comey-calls-him-a-liar-trump-basks-in-religious-rights-adulation/

    “While millions of Americans spent Thursday glued to television coverage
    of former FBI director James Comey’s testimony, Donald Trump took time
    to bask in the adulation of Religious Right activists who gathered in
    D.C. for Road to Majority, the annual conference hosted by Ralph Reed’s
    Faith and Freedom Coalition.

    ‘Scuse me a minute, folks…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/591b66acd411717502c20107bfb13841ccad20c56c9c603395b48506c33eaf15.jpg

    (urp) Sorry about that…

    Yeah, worship your god-king. Damn you, damn you all to hell.

    • Suse

      I read somewhere today that Dumpster wants to cut funds for Holocaust memorial/museum budget by $3 mil. Even GOoPs are appalled.

    • Maclare 🍰

      They needed to keep him topped off on adulation. Only thing that keeps him relatively quiet.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      I assume he behaved himself and didn’t grab any evangelical women by the pussy.

      • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

        Evangelicals have no pussy. They’re flat and smooth down there, like Barbie dolls (I hear Calista Gingrich is also like that.)

        • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

          How is babby formed?

          • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

            Teh Jeebus brings it from the heavens.

          • Lori

            And leaves it under a cabbage leaf.

  • Ninja0980
    • Lori

      Folks on the twitter machine need to tweet Idina Menzel singing Let It Go at him until he stops.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      She lost key states because of Russian interference.
      I’m very disappointed in OHJB.
      He should know better.

    • Picabo

      Forward! Into the past! “The Firesign Theatre”

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Uncle Joe seems to be seriously gearing up for 2020

      I’m not sure how good of an idea that is…

      • Lori

        I have a major soft spot for him, but it’s a terrible idea and he needs to get over it before next year when campaigning for 2020 starts in earnest.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          Yup, I like him too- but this would be bad- an ancient establishment Dem that reminds everyone of Hillary and has no real name recognition with youth. We don’t need another old white guy who’s been involved with DC for decades

    • pussygrabber in chief

      Yeah, c’mon Joe. Leave the stage gracefully.

  • Three Finger Salute

    Can you say Just Fucking Kooky? I knew you could.

    Oliver Stoned is now a Putin fanboy who says Hitler did nuthin’ wrong.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/oliver-stone-bashes-megyn-kelly-and-hearts-vladimir-putin/

    • Lori

      I feel like this was pretty much inevitable., The man’s an asshole from way back and also a bit of a nutter.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      He’s gone back and to the left

      • MilwaukeeKent

        Wait…he’s dancing the Madison Time now?

  • WomanInThePersistence

    That’s the future of dance sport.

    https://youtu.be/RATBzjmcbh8

  • WomanInThePersistence
    • C4TWOMAN

      OMG I’m so slow! I remember this film! It was fun and a little cheezy, but in a good way. I didn’t remember the name, but the scene where the mother(gran?) says “I bring dress just in case!” just flashed in my head.

      Memory’s a funny thing–thanks for the re-memories.

  • Mr. Lordyfish

    Trump thinks Dodd-Frank is right next to Qatar.

    • Picabo

      No. It’s in the Orion Belt.

      • vivian

        As long as it isn’t in the Orion Pants.

      • Saxo the Grammarian

        It’s not in the Oort Cloud?

        • Three Finger Salute

          No, that’s Trump. He dwells in the Faart Cloud.

  • bookish

    There’s a pony in here somewhere…

    http://abc30.com/news/top-republican-trio-urges-trump-to-act-on-russia/2078621/

    Those Republicans invited to speak at the annual E2 Summit this weekend — far from Washington in Park City, Utah — have been some of the vocal critics of Donald Trump, but instead of distancing themselves from the president, they instead told friends and colleagues at the event they are cautiously optimistic about his administration and want to help it succeed.

    • Lori

      For those who don’t speak fluent asshole this:

      “They are cautiously optimistic about his administration and want to help it succeed.”

      means this:

      “They’re pretty sure Turmp’s bug fuckery will distract everyone long enough for them to finally destroy what’s left of the middle class and strip the poor for spare parts, then hand alllll the money to the rich.”

      • unclejeems

        Well, sure, as long as they get theirs, too . . .

  • Picabo
  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    If this were anyone but Trump, I’d say this means there are (or were) tapes.
    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/873269494743003140
    But we all know “he’d lie to you about the time of day just for the practice”, so…

    • jesterpunk
      • C4TWOMAN

        And a leopard doesn’t change it’s spots…

        • jesterpunk

          Especially after 70 years.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      If there were tapes, we would have heard them before the Senate even wrapped up their closed afternoon session

      • OrG

        Unless they prove Comey’s telling the truth.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          in which case we never will, so they might as well not exist

    • LiPao

      It was always February at Floyd’s Barbershop too.

    • biologydave

      Maybe the tapes are in his magic box with his tax returns and Obama’s REAL birth certificate.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Someone should send Geraldo to find this mysterious magic box.

        • biologydave

          That was such a fantastic fail.

        • Kateaux

          “The Secrets of Donald Trump’s Cranial Vault”! And it could be just as empty as the alleged Capone vault was…

          • Three Finger Salute

            So empty there aren’t even crickets inside.

          • yyyaz

            No oxygen in a vacuum.

    • akryan

      I doubt anything exists. He tweeted it out to intimidate Comey and just never thought he’d be called on it because he doesn’t think. Now he’s boxed in. If he actually does have them, then they will be subject to investigation. If he doesn’t then he looks like a liar and a fool. I think the second would be better for him.

      • Steely_Fan

        Another possibility that’s occurred to me is that Drumpf did record their conversation and thought that he could intimidate Comey by threatening him with the “tape”, without realizing that it would incriminate himself far more than Comey. He’s just stupid enough to have done this without thinking through the consequences.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent
  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX9L8IuiwJA

    This is from a French movie called Chevaliers Du Ciel, it’s available over her as “Sky Fighters”, but the French track is available subtitled on the disc.

  • TJ Barke

    There’s an actual nazi simpleton running about, go poke it, it’s called The Fathers Initiative or something, it’s an moran, so have fun. It’s actually blathering about cultural marxism like it’s a thing…

    • jesterpunk

      Where?

      • TJ Barke

        Just a couple dozen posts down. It’s not that prolific yet, but I looked at its history and whew boy, it’s fucking nuts.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Do a Ctrl (or Cmd) F for “Cultural Marxist” and you’ll find it.

        • jesterpunk

          Damn, I looked at their history. God damn Nazis.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Kay, they must be pretty far down because I expanded disqus and page search still didn’t fine them. Have a profile link plz?

          • TJ Barke

            I guess the thread swelled a bit since then. But it is(or was) down there.

          • jesterpunk

            Its the_fathers_initiative

          • C4TWOMAN
    • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

      How funny – I had already Pre-Blocked this asshole even before he responded to me. He must be one of those I saw on Media Matters and Blocked out of sheer awfulness.

      • TJ Barke

        Ew, you tracked nazi back in with you! Wipe your feet!

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

          I don’t post over there, I just Block assholes.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      On my way!

    • Maclare 🍰

      ???

    • pussygrabber in chief

      Doesn’t look like he’s getting much traction. Everybody started talking about Star Trek.

      • TJ Barke

        That was actually before he showed up.

        • pussygrabber in chief

          I thought Anna Elizabeth kicked off the Star Trek talk with a non-comment about Nazi troll. But, of course, I’m pretty drunk.

        • theCryptofishist

          It was after, but it was one of the time travel episodes.

    • biologydave

      I guess I’m just old and crabby, but I remember when America hated Nazis, and we liked it that way!

      • TJ Barke

        A sensible policy for a better America.

        • biologydave

          I mean, what was the point, what was the bloody point of WWII? “Oh, sorry for that dust up a few years ago. Why not help yourself to a huge slice of Poland for old-times sake?”

          • theCryptofishist

            If you can pry it from Stalin’s dead hands…

          • redarmyzombie

            They wouldn’t have had much fun in Stalingrad.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            “Who doesn’t enjoy annexing the Sudetenland this time of year?”

          • biologydave

            Summer is always great for a putsch. The weather is warmer and the days are longer.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Was it a putsch or a shove?

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    One thing I was not told as a colt (and I think this is a glaring oversight) is that some people live in a fucking completely different reality than the causal and empirical one that most people occupy.

    Rick Joyner Says There Is ‘Divine Favor, Divine Protection’ On Trump

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/rick-joyner-says-there-is-divine-favor-divine-protection-on-trump/

    I think those who are intimidated by [Trump] know he is uncompromising, he’s going to get to the bottom of issues and I do think that the extreme behavior of the liberals and the Democrats and the many people within the deep state and the Obama administration people, many of which are still in positions, I think they’re threatened. I think they’re hiding something so big, so damaging, they’re just doing everything they can to thwart Trump and throw the whole nation off of looking, examining what went on with the Obama administration. That’s the only thing that can explain such extreme behavior.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/57c751547a06e47284f282efd73e61f11d44c0dda5cea9616bfab308a1dab654.gif

    Oy vey.

    • C4TWOMAN

      “Divine Protection” ?

      Mkay. Will be remembering that as the Russia investigation proceeds….

    • Three Finger Salute

      I think Rick Joyner works for “The Fathers’ Initiative”.

    • OrG

      What’s really distressing about this is the number of people that will believe it.

    • akryan

      In one form or another they’ve been saying the same thing since Obama first came on the national scene. There is something scandalous about him that is being covered up by the evil liberals. It’s not any different than birtherism.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        You mean aside from being one of the Lizard People?

        • Three Finger Salute

          It’s always personal stuff that nosy cons everywhere make up and try to use as a disqualifier against liberal politicians. If it’s not race then 99% of the time it’s parentage or something else that has to do with sex. The old “Yer mutha’s a hoar, Trebek.”

          Bubbagate was a national embarrassment, but did the con rage machine stop there? No. They “accused” Hillary of a lesbian relationship with Huma. They did birtherism 2.0 saying Trudeau was Castro’s son. They still “accuse” him of being gay, and have even gone so far as to repeat the birtherism against his own kids. They “accused” Macron of being gay and tried to get his wife in trouble for being a “pedophile” (admittedly, it is a bit odd, but hey, they love each other, and apparently there was no sex, unlike the just-divorced Latourneau in Seattle). They even “accused” Obama of being gay (the whole Reggie Love bullshit) and of marrying a pre-op transsexual to hide his “fetish”.

          The fact that they think being gay or trans is something to “accuse” someone of, speaks volumes about their hate. But when someone finds Larry Craig doing a toe-tap in the bathroom, all of a sudden it’s a big liberal Marxist conspiracy.

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            It also speaks volumes about their fundamental sexual insecurity and misogyny. When they use “gay” as an insult, they’re saying their target is like a woman, which is the worst thing they can imagine.

            I’m glad to be a unicorn. We don’t worry about the size of our dicks.

      • Chris

        His father is black. I think that pretty much is their problem with Obama.

        • Three Finger Salute

          He “fails” the paper bag test that’s an unwritten requirement to become president.

          • Chris

            Wow, Southerner?

          • Three Finger Salute

            No. Liberal New Englander. Hence why I put “fails” in quote marks. I’m not saying he “failed.” The cons are.

          • Chris

            Just surprised that anyone outside the south knew about it.

    • Kateaux

      Hey, there *could* be a god involved in all this. Loki, maybe?

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      what an ugly little cult of personality

    • shivaskeeper

      Or it could be Rick Joyner is just one more money grubbing grifter wearing Christianity as cover. Also, too he could be actually insane.

      • yyyaz

        Or both.

        • shivaskeeper

          An option I did in fact overlook.

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            I always ask myself where on the continuum they land.

          • shivaskeeper

            Good advice there.

          • yyyaz

            Don’t ask about my upbringing. Tough to forget.

          • shivaskeeper

            I understand.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Joyner thinks Assmouth is like Lincoln?! Uh — how many people did Abraham Lincoln try to keep from voting? How many times did Lincoln try to ban immigrants? How many times did Lincoln tell his allies that they owed him money, start fights with them for no reason, or collude with their enemies? Joyner, the only thing this proves is that you don’t know a second-rate conman from an actual human rights pioneer.

      • Three Finger Salute
        • SayItWithWookies

          That is a thing of terrible beauty indeed.

          • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

            You misspelled nightmare fodder.

    • Jamoche

      Projecting so hard you could use it for a Bat-signal.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    Another bottle of Tempranillo, please. I’ll share, but bring your own glass.

    https://youtu.be/QLnEjHuMFsA

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Holy shit.

    • pussygrabber in chief

      Take THAT, Michael Flatley!

  • TJ Barke

    Cuz fuck you nazis! We’ll unite as the human race! Not by our petty differences!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcXNXKtu8z4

    • Three Finger Salute

      The gender-neutral version of O Canada was supposed to be official by July 1 (Canada Day 150), but the last remnants of the Harpercon senate are blocking the bill on “technicality” grounds — and for a really pathetic, low, petty reason.

      http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/senate-amendment-to-o-canada-bill-could-force-house-to-vote-unanimously-on-new-sponsor

      The MP who introduced the bill, Mauril Bélanger, it was his dying wish to see the song changed to be inclusive. He died of ALS before a vote could be held on it. So the Harpercons are saying that the bill is invalid, because its sponsor is no longer “present” and that the bill should have to be reintroduced with a new sponsor. It was supposed to change a lyric from “In all thy sons command” to “In all of us command.” That’s it. Nothing about LGBT or newfangled pronouns or even mentioning girls or women. Just “all of us.” Why should it only be the sons who get mentioned as being defenders of the True North Strong and Free? And how petty is it to block a bill on a technicality over its sponsor not being “present” when the reason he isn’t “present” is because he died of ALS?

      Cons have been railing against this proposed change as “feminist political correctness,” and only doubled down on their mood because they’re still stinging about 2015 and the election of the feminist PM they despise. This is because cons, no matter what country they’re in, will stoop to anything to stop progress on even the smallest things. Makes me want to elbow these guys all the way from south of the 49th… with maple-flavored, gender-equal votes.

      Just to spite them, I hope whoever sings the anthem at the ceremony includes the “unofficial” lyric anyway. Because it’s 2017.

      • Yr. Gma

        I can never remember the new version. Old and learned the sons version hundreds of years ago.

        • Three Finger Salute

          What I love is that Canada is progressive enough that changes to the national anthem are even being considered and taken up as a debate at all. If anyone dared go near the Star-Spangled Banner and tried to replace or even add a song to a list of multiple official anthems, there’d be a hue and cry about “erasing our history.” Ironically, the SSB came about during the war of 1812 with what is now Canada. I always preferred America the Beautiful to the more combative one we have. Unfortunately, Trump wants to pollute the beautiful and spacious skies and build parking lots for his hotels over the amber waves of grain.

  • jesterpunk
  • Nounverb911
    • yyyaz

      LOL, but is it really that hard to get Pollock right?

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
  • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl
  • Alex Grey

    I hate finances anyway! Who needs an economy!?!?

  • pussygrabber in chief

    To kill that nasty Nazi aftertaste:

    https://youtu.be/NLiWFUDJ95I

  • redarmyzombie
    • TJ Barke

      Shut up Claire!

      • redarmyzombie

        Now, you know how I don’t like to use the sit-down-gun…

        • TJ Barke

          That show is fucking bananas.

          • redarmyzombie

            It’s so insane, I love it.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Oh, right, this is why I don’t watch CNN:

    https://twitter.com/Shakestweetz/status/873270353480609792

    • jesterpunk

      Corey was also being paid by Trump and had a contract with Trump saying he could never say anything bad about Trump ever.

    • shivaskeeper

      Both sides or something. Sticks and stones won’t break my bones, but words will make me cry in a corner.

    • yyyaz

      Funny that you can’t say it, but being one is brownie points.

    • Le Covfefe Royal

      Never watched his show, but I saw Reza Aslan give a talk a couple weeks ago at UCI. A nice guy and a compelling speaker. He’s not wrong about Trump.

  • James

    Written down below by Three Finger Salute:

    Well,when we’re all underwater due to climate change and Nebraska is an
    island… You get beachfront property, and you get beachfront property…
    Everyone gets beachfront property!

    Well, since I live in the Nebraska Sandhills out west, I’m all set! The Inland Coast becomes just The Coast.

    (Searches through sofa cushions to buy up all the property in town . . . investment opportunity)

    • Three Finger Salute

      Thanks for the mention :D

      Can’t wait to catch some waves on the prairie coast!

  • MilwaukeeKent

    Can we just leave this whole “doomed to repeat it” thing to those who forgot history, and the rest of us out of it?

  • TJ Barke
    • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

      Yays! My fave from the Beastie Boys, and yes it was my fave before it was in Abramstrek. xD

      • redarmyzombie

        My childhood will always be defined by the music video to Intergalactic…

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

          So many awesome tracks from the Boys. :)

  • James

    I ran into my first Bernie Bro on-line. I’ve read many others here and at LGF say they have to deal with them regularly, but this was the first for me (on a really stupid Alternet article recently in my Disqus comments).

    I got accused of being a neoliberal imperialist warmonger – all in the same sentence.

    A few days ago I returned a dime to our town petty cash fund, because I was overpaid ten cents. I must be doing imperalism wrong.

    That article is full or either moonbats or rodent copulators (or maybe both) saying they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Clinton for (reason) so it was Trump all the way.

    Gaaa.

    • fuck you neoliberal imperialist warmonger.

      • James

        If I’m doing imperialism right, I understand I am supposed to charge a lot of money for that. I don’t think my wife would be happy with me though.

        • don’t you just want to be a ‘warmonger’?

          i would love to be a warmonger.

          • James

            Not really. I’d rather blow our money on useless things like infrastructure projects and healthcare.

    • pussygrabber in chief

      I got accused of being a neoliberal imperialist warmonger – all in the same sentence.

      Hey, you got berniebro bingo your first time out! Congrats!

      • James

        Funny that warmongering thing. I went in the military when Carter was president (no wars under him). Bill Clinton intervened in the Yugoslav Civil War with limited air strikes primarily to prevent genocide (I’m a big fan of preventing genocide). Hillary somethingsomething no-fly zone over Syria – which would have been to prevent genocide going on there now.

        All the R presidents in my life? Every one invaded a country that did us no harm, but I’m the war monger. Trump isolates one of our allies (Qatar) without even knowing CENTCOM is there with ten thousand US troops and the Rs defend that decision (over a disinformation campaign) and wants to invade Iran and makes friends with Roderigo F’in Duterte and I’m a warmonger?

        • pussygrabber in chief

          Look at you, with your “facts” and “history.” That’s the worst kind of warmongering!

        • Three Finger Salute

          Trump is a dangerous lunatic with penile insecurity issues who’d drop a MOAB on every single country with a leader who’s better looking and more popular than he is. Including “some island in the Pacific” Hawaii, just because Obama used to live there. I hope the Champs-Elysees and Rideau Cottage have bombproof bunkers. Pearl Harbor must be used to bombings by now…

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

      The Moderators on Alternet are either Galactically stupid or Trolls themselves. I haven’t even read that site in 2 years now.

    • shivaskeeper

      I think returning the dime was you fucking up neoliberalisn, not imperialism.

      There is occasional talk about the bulk of them being bots or trolls or Russian troll bots. I don;t think they are. They are the left’s version of the Tea Party and are just as rigid in their ideology and purity politics as the worst of the right.

      • James

        That’s correct. If I was an imperialist, I would have colonised the village hall.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Somehow or another I got banned from Alternet despite never having commented there. Raw Story too.

      • James

        I’ve never been banished from there. I usually don’t comment except when antivaxxers start in with their nonsense. I damn near died of the mumps in 2012 (funny thing about mumps, even if you had the mumps as a child you can get it again) because a woman leading 4-H Christmas Carollers around town brought a special snowflake who was coming down with the mumps to sing to the town atheists.

        I was pleasant at the time; my wife and I offered the girls cookies, then a few days later, pow. 105 fever, &c. I was miserable for two weeks.

        Moral of the story: Christmas Carollers are dangerous. Answer the door with a pitchfork.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Not necessarily Christmas carolers. Just anti-science numpties.

          • James

            “Mumps Came Upon a Midnight Clear”

          • Three Finger Salute

            Bedrest, Ye Merry Gentlemen

          • James

            O Swollen Night

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        I got booted from raw story for hurting some BB mod’s fee fees (I assume, never was told why despite emailing twice)

    • yyyaz

      Haven’t most of those sickos been outed as disinformation disseminators? Nine of 10 Bernie supporters I know voted for Hillz, myself included.

      • James

        Me too. Got the complaints of “well if the Democrats ran open primaries. . . ” no. My state has closed caucuses and it went for Sanders. All those supposed independents that would have voted for Sanders in the primaries in closed states couldn’t be bothered to register as Democrats to vote for him.

        Not seeing how all those independent voters would have turned out for him in the General Election if they couldn’t be bothered to sign up to vote for him in the primaries.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          My state lets people change registration right up until election day. It doesn’t get much easier. Hillary won and the bros concocted all sorts of conspiracy theories. When I pointed out that they were full of shit- and why- I was called a Hillary shill, despite having voted for Bernie

      • shivaskeeper

        That last one though, that one is the unbending purity pony. That one is the one still claiming they would have won. That one is our version of the Tea Party. That one is the one hoping it’ll all burn down down since it couldn’t have it’s way and will be the one magically on top to rebuild from the ashes. That one is, in point of fact, an asshole.

        Granted it may be augmented by trolls and disinformation, but it would be doing the same thing, even without the help.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Never before did that stubborn fifth dentist who didn’t approve of the Oral-B toothbrush put us all in danger of something a lot worse than cavities.

          • shivaskeeper

            Yeah. Fuck that guy.

          • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

            No, that was Trident gum. “Four out of five dentists recommend Trident gum for their patients who chew gum.”

            You kids today don’t study the classics.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8IFdHxVyrY

          • Three Finger Salute

            Ha. Thanks for the clarification! I must have had it confused with that convenience store scene in Home Alone.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBxzudPUoig

          • James

            Four out of five liquor store owners recommend liquor for their patients who drink liquor (the other one recommends beer)

          • Suttree

            I like you 3FS! That is funny.

        • James

          Funny thing about revolutions: They are bloody and messy and tend to destroy countries (see Syria right now). Lots and lots of people die.

          I’m not interested in a revolution, nor in the claims I’ve seen that the military should seek to depose the president to “save the constitution.” Funny thing about military revolts: If they are successful, the military almost never gives up power.

          • shivaskeeper

            I’m with you on all of that. There is a reason i come down on anyone advocating secession like I do. There is a reason I ask them how many of their neighbors they are willing to personally kill, I have seen civil and sectarian war and the aftermath up close and personal and I will not let it happen here.

        • Suttree

          True liberals got the fuck over it. We do not need BOB’s in our mists. Fuck them straight to libertarianism!

          • shivaskeeper

            Adults got over it. It’s what adults do, They are the same small minded children the right has that will watch it all burn if they don’t get 100% of their way. The only difference is they claim to be left or progressive.

          • Suttree

            We don’t need them. They should be treated as pariahs.

      • Suttree

        I voted for Bernie in the primary and I still wear my Wonkette Hillz t-shirt!

        • James

          I’d be crucified in my town without lube if I wore that shirt here. Socialist? Sure, this conservative town elected me twice. Hippie? Put me in charge of the flag committee. But that shirt? I’d be dragged out of my house and staked to an anthill below a wake of vultures.

          • Suttree

            I live in Jersey and travel to Brooklyn to see Lizzie. No one gives a fuck.

          • James

            Hillary Clinton did not come close enough to us to attend a rally. Several hundred miles was as close as she got to me.

          • Suttree

            I feel bad that I was feeling terrible with my back, and didn’t make it to the primaries for NJ governor. Who I was going to vote for won by a large margin though. NJ is one of two gov races this year.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        About 8-8.5 voted for her in the general. IOW, just enough purity ponies to fuck up a close race

        • James

          About 8 voted for here here, too. Eight. Votes. Three for Johnson, two for Stein (who the heck were those people), and several hundred for Trump.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            That’s the approximate national average, though to be fair many of those were protest votes in solid blue states. It’s the dumbfucks in swing states that piss me off…

          • James

            That and the “both sides are just the same” magic balance fairies and “it doesn’t matter what corrupt politician is in office it doesn’t affect me” people.

            Then there’s all the “the primaries were rigged” people – you’d think if the DNC could rig primaries (run by state governments) they’d have the wherewithal to move some 80,000 voters to three states to tip the election.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Artificial disseminators?

        • James

          Consider that phrase stolen.

    • Suttree

      I have Alternet in my bookmarks, but I really never visit there. The writing quality goes hand in hand with the quality of the commenters. This is probably what wingnuts cite when they say that the left is crazy and stupid.

      • James

        Alternet does have some interesting articles, but they have a whole bunch of nonsense as well. I don’t have them bookmarked, because that would clutter up my porn research Websites for my at-home job (not the unpaid village trustee job, the erotic Romance editor job)

        • Three Finger Salute

          Think you meant to write a strike tag over “porn” instead of italics. No biggie, I do it too :)

          • James

            I fixed it already. That said, I could have been using double-secret strikeout that only looks like italics.

        • Suttree

          I get a lot of my news from Wonkette. But The Guardian, BBC, and NYT…….yada yada yada

      • redarmyzombie

        More likely, it’s just projection.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Alternet is like Examiner.com, YMMV and a look at wiki you can see why:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Examiner.com#Criticism

        So yeh, there’s some good stuff, but just remember there’s no vetting or editing and you’ll have to do your own fact checking.

  • jesterpunk
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Time to unwind, folks. I’ll leave on this note:

    https://twitter.com/ayeletw/status/873324818585722881

  • Moebym Reborn

    A pro-Trump political cartoon I briefly glimpsed while browsing Reddit’s front page portrayed him as this studly man with a ripped bod, using a wrench to stop the “leaks” coming from Comey, Obama, et al.

    As if Trump would ever pick up a wrench or a barbell.

    • redarmyzombie

      Also, Obama? He’s not even in the fucking government anymore!

      Nevermind, I forgot, logic and conservatives…

      • Three Finger Salute

        Might as well throw the prime minister of Montenegro in there if all he’s doing is including people who Trump has pissed off.

        Actually, no, wait — is there enough bandwidth on the Internet to include billions of people in a single cartoon?

        • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

          Little Montenegro!

          • Three Finger Salute

            Trump probably thinks he pushed a negro and that’s why he didn’t think anything of it. It wasn’t his African-American, after all. Someone else’s African-American got in his way.

        • Moebym Reborn

          It’s a select group of people – Loretta Lynch, HRC, Obama, and Comey – in the cartoon.

      • shivaskeeper

        It’s all the people he cleverly left behind to do the leaking and to block the mandate and all that stuff. And things.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Or try to stop leaks. That’s his fetish, according to Big Dom Vlad.

    • TJ Barke

      By Ben Garrison? That guy’s had a psychotic break.

      • Moebym Reborn

        Yep, it’s his cartoon. It’s a shame that such a good artist is wasting his skills drawing pro-Trump cartoons.

    • pussygrabber in chief

      As if he’d know what either of those things are. Is. Be. What are we talking about?

      • Three Finger Salute

        Well, he knows what a dumbbell is. It’s called his reflection.

        • pussygrabber in chief

          I frequently wonder what he *does* see when he looks in the mirror. I mean, he can’t possibly see what he actually looks like, or he’d stop looking that way.

          • Raan

            He sees the abyss, and it’s looking right back at him.

    • Raan

      Well, according to photos of him golfing, his body’s probably closer to Chris Farley than Jack LaLanne.

    • Canis Greyhame

      Talk about a blunt instrument! I mean, phew, those are terrible. You see what happens when conservative brains make an attempt at creativity and humor?

  • CATMAN

    “We have brought onto this continent a nation, conceived for the banks, to be run by the banks, for the benefit of the banks, and so the banks shall not perish from this earth”–from the secret sessions of the GOP Congressional Caucus

    • Three Finger Salute

      Abe Lincoln. Great guy. People are going to be talking a lot about him.

      • TJ Barke

        He was a republican, people don’t know this…

        • jesterpunk

          Does he know that Trump is the most mistreated and most attacked president ever? I bet Abe would be surprised to hear that.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Next time he goes to the theater to watch Citizen Kane, someone should mention it to him.

          • Suttree

            “i never saw any assholes there! What the fuck else is a rosebud?”

          • Raan

            “It’s his sled. It’s the name of the sled he had when he was a kid. There, I just saved you two long, boobless hours.”

          • Suttree

            You did not caveat that statement with “white”.

          • James

            “I like presidents who aren’t shot” said Ronald Reagan never.

          • Suttree

            I await Billo’s next book about it.

      • CATMAN

        Abe who?–the author of this is named Paul

        • Three Finger Salute

          Eddie Munster, the boy vampire with the pointy ears.

    • La forza del resistino

      But w/o banks, I wouldn’t have gotten that free toaster 45 years ago.

  • La forza del resistino

    Another week and the only redeeming fact is that Donald once demonstrated the intellectual curiosity to learn how to use Twitter.

    • yyyaz

      And he is so proud of himself for doing it. The last time he had that experience was when he used the big potty successfully. You know, about 58 years ago.

  • James

    On Nebraska becoming an island due to seal level rise, the obvious choice for the nation’s new capital would be Grand Island, Nebraska.

    • yyyaz

      Seems about right, considering what will be left.

      • Three Finger Salute

        At least we got Terre Haute.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znlxif61eGw

        • OrG

          My hometown!

          • James

            A town no where near anyplace I ever lived!

          • Raan

            A town that was mentioned in a movie that uses clips from noir movies, arranged to accentuate the humor of the new footage!

            Too specific?

          • James

            “Movies.” Those are those fancy moving picture stories that people pay money to go to “cinemas” to watch (in places where they have cinemas) . . . is that about right?

          • Raan

            Yeah, and I hear they even show up in a box in your house if you have things connected to it.

          • James

            I have nothing connected to my house. (Well I do have water, electric, telephone and gas. I don’t own a television set though. We also don’t have cable service here, and satellite is way too expensive, as is Internet – on the last that explains why I am the only person in town with Internet.)

  • jesterpunk
    • Suttree

      Are you one of these people?

      • jesterpunk

        No I wish, Jonny is the guitar player from Social Distortion. He has the same guitar in this video.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksTUQ7ciHXU

        Old punks always seem to play country music for some reason.

  • Raan

    Okay open thread, I have a question for you before I try (and probably fail) to get a little extra sleep: Which Grand Theft Auto game had the strongest opening? Not the credits sequence when you boot up the game, but the cinematics between hitting “New Game” and when you actually start playing.

    Personally, I really like GTA III’s opening.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

      I’ve only played Vice City and San Andreas, Vice City just blew me away with it’s gameplay and atmosphere. I’d say the opening was excellent.

      • Raan

        Vice City’s is strong, and I feel like it really does a good job setting up the story and the whole theme.

        SA’s was kind of weak, but I think that’s because they spun most of it off into a half-hour movie.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

          Sometimes with Vice City I’d just grab a motorcycle and ride around, listening to one of the 80s stations and doing speed stunts. I think it’s one of the best things that you could just play around with it.

          • Raan

            That reminds me of a game someone came up with in Vice City called “Motorcycle Tag”. You get a bike, find someone else on one, shoot them once, and try to keep up with them.

          • Master Contrail Program

            I was always fond of just seeing how long I could stay alive with maximum wanted levels. Despite owning every GTA but 1 and 5 I never finished any of them. Just too much to do.

            Saint’s Row took the concept and distilled it down to just about the perfect length, imo. Even if they wrote themselves into a corner with Saint’s Row 4.

          • Raan

            I’ve only ever played Saint’s Row 2. I ended up making the Joker with a British voice and beating people with a sledgehammer, and that was right in my goofiness wheelhouse.

          • Master Contrail Program

            Yeah. I got Saint’s Row 3 from PS+ and my guy was a British-voiced Hulk in a snazzy leisure suit. I guess 3 was where they really started breaking away from being a GTA clone before going batshit completely off the rails in 4.

            Anyway, I’d recommend both 3 and 4 if you still have a PS3, you can probably find them for $5-10 each these days.

  • “Something, something, Hillaryisacorruptneoliberalanditissomehowallherfault, something”

    Signed,
    The Contrarian marco to anything this administration ruins.

    • James

      And even on the most basic level that’s a stupid defence. Even if Hillary Clinton did every last thing they accuse her of, that doesn’t give a pass for their guy doing it.

      “Your Honour, in my defence that other guy also robbed a bank and got a hung jury, so I should too” really isn’t much of an argument.

      • MilwaukeeKent

        “That isn’t the bank I robbed!”

        • James

          “You want that bank robber over there.”

  • Pinkham’s Law

    Anybody else ever tied to upgrad total diva’s phone? “Ok, so . . . you want the red pho, right? Because it’s red.” “OH!!! OHHH! Red!! YESWANTRED!!!”

    “INEED CHARGER AND BELTLIP BUT NEED ERRRYBOYDY SEE M PHONE!!!!1! I gobed, you make rtight, yes?”

    Wut?

    • James

      My phone company tells me I can now upgrade to a touch-tone telephone from my existing rotary dial telephone. We’ll get cell service here next year after never.

      I have a burner phone to use when I am on a trip, but my voicemail message says “don’t leave a message here because I can’t get it where I live. Call my land line.” (Bonus: If you don’t know what my land line telephone number is, you won’t bother me._

      • James

        We have an Empress-style cradle desk phone, and a standard wall phone (both rotary).

        • yyyaz

          Erm, what do you do out there? That is if you’re allowed to tell us.

          • James

            I am retired from the Navy, a disabled vet. Since I worked on aviation electronics my whole career but can’t now (pesky FAA regulations), I do closely related work (edit erotic Romances for a Canadian company). I am also the chairman pro-tempore of my village board (roughly analogous to a vice-mayor on a city council, but my city only has a bit over a hundred people). I also run the town water system. (The village doesn’t pay board members or the water operator, so I am doing capitalism wrong.)

          • Three Finger Salute

            > I do closely related work (edit erotic Romances for a Canadian company)

            What’s the company if I might ask? Been looking for some saucy stuff to read. (…and mentally substitute Justin and/or Barry in for whoever the characters are, lol.)

          • James

            Eternal Press. It was a Christian publishing house that went out of business, then was acquired and relaunched as a Romance outfit. Tiny company (Harlequin probably puts out more books in a week than Eternal does in a year).

          • Three Finger Salute

            Sometimes bigger is not necessarily better. Niche is nice :)

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance
  • BoatOfVelociraptors
  • La forza del resistino

    Donald will never release those tapes. Especially the one that measured his 56″ azz.

    • Raan

      You know what would be really interesting though? Having the FBI storm the White House just like they would any other criminal’s home.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Flashbangs at Trump Tower? Unpossible!

        • Raan

          Nah, no one there likes Trump enough to try to destroy evidence.

      • jesterpunk

        Would the secret service help them or would they try and stop the FBI?

        • Raan

          I’d hope they help, or at least stay out of the way. They’re his bodyguards, but they’re still government employees (who occasionally hire South American hookers, but that’s neither here nor there).

          • redarmyzombie

            Let he who hasn’t hired South American hookers cast the first stone!

          • Raan

            I haven’t, but who knows what the future holds?

    • Canis Greyhame

      He’s got one of those 34-48-56 type of figures.

      • Three Finger Salute

        His IQ range?

        • Canis Greyhame

          Maybe the nuclear codes. They’re probably scrawled on a yellow post-it note, clearly visible in a press photo somewhere. Let’s Check!

          • Three Finger Salute

            It’s actually “12345”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k

          • Canis Greyhame

            My god, the administration is going from suck to blow!

          • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

            Srsly, between suck and blow has to be some snort.

          • redarmyzombie

            They alreay hit Ludicrous speed way back…

          • Raan

            His staffers find​ an emergency stop button for his Twitter account; there’s an “out of order” tag on it.

            “Fuck, even in the future nothing works!”

          • Three Finger Salute

            I picture him in the Oval Office playing with his dolls. Orange Helmet beats up Canuck Starr and gets Princess Ivankspa to smooch him instead.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGoXyXiwOBg

          • Raan

            Jared walks in, he rushes to cover everything up.

          • Three Finger Salute

            “Playing with your dolls again, pop?”

          • Raan

            I thought it was either “934-TXS” or “CPE-1704-TKS”.

          • Three Finger Salute

            976-EVIL?

      • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

        Girlish!

    • Suttree

      56″ by 4″ dick that he hasn’t seen nor had anyone feel in years.

      • Raan

        4″ dick that’s been missing so long it could be declared legally dead.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Who among us has not stuffed their head up a bull statue’s ass?

    Am irite?

    • Canis Greyhame

      Well no, not a statue.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        Stinky!

      • redarmyzombie

        We don’t talk about that. Especially not the part with the Taiwanese midget…

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      What happens in Vegas…

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        Stays in Vegas’ ass.

        Until it drips out.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      I have’t done that.

      But I actually did stick a peanut up my nose.

      As an adult.

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        Do you not appreciate how many decent folks are allergic to peanuts up the nose?

        You MONSTER!

        • redarmyzombie

          Could have been worse; could have been canned clams up the nose…

          • James

            Worse still, in an unopened can.

          • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

            Tell me about it.

          • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

            Exactly. And I got my comeuppance in the frantic minutes immediately afterward when I feared I wasn’t going to be able to get it back out on my own.

            I mean jeez how do you even explain that in the ER?

          • Raan

            I guarantee you, that’s not the weirdest thing they’ve seen, or the weirdest orifice something’s been stuck in.

          • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

            I know but it would have been an embarrassing first for me. As an otherwise responsible adult.

          • redarmyzombie

            “I, uh, slipped in the shower…”

          • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

            “Found a peanut, found a peanut, found a peanut just now…”

    • Master Contrail Program

      That’s not where one finds the mountain oysters.

  • Three Finger Salute

    The telenovela version of Stephen Harper, Ted “Zodiac” Cruz (R-Calgary), awkwardly shuffled off the stage at the Faith & Fascism Coalition after his too-long speech gets cut off by the Academy Awards orchestra.

    http://people.com/politics/ted-cruz-speech-cut-short-video/

    Worst Ted Talk ever.

    • redarmyzombie

      Everyone hates Ted Cruz. Everyone.

      • Raan

        I’m starting to think that even Ted Cruz hates Ted Cruz.

        • Three Finger Salute

          The real Zodiac killer even hates Ted Cruz for making him look bad.

        • redarmyzombie

          Ev! Ery! One!

  • Three Finger Salute

    Moar animal abuse from the sociopaths in chief:

    Wild horses could be sold to slaughterhouses or euthanized under Trump budget

    http://people.com/politics/wild-horses-slaughter-euthanize-donald-trump-budget/

    A dry run for when the rest of us get turned into glue.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      At least Trump sticks to his major policy goals.

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      If only wild horses would drag them away….

    • Anna Rompage

      Equine is the new exoctic meats….

      • Suttree

        When I lived in Portland, Maine the big rage was emu burgers. They were good. Not as good as beef, but weird white meat only people ate them (my girlfriend).

      • Canis Greyhame

        That is, until Junior & Eric successfully lobby to legalize the most dangerous and delicious game of all.

        • Three Finger Salute

          If dad ever read any bedtime stories to them, it was probably Lord of the Flies.

        • redarmyzombie

          I propose they get eaten first.

      • Jennifer R

        It’s eaten legitimately in parts of the western world. The big problem is unlicensed meat in general.

    • TJ Barke

      As if there wasn’t already enough reasons to hate that shit sack.

    • MilwaukeeKent

      And the tinned meat will be marketed under the Trump brand at Sharper Image outlets.

  • redarmyzombie
  • Jamoche
    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Cedar cheese

      • Suttree

        Peace smokes.

      • MilwaukeeKent

        Those cakes we like.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Oh, that’s hilarious. Because nobody does that.
      [Note to self — less detail in shopping memo.]

    • Raan

      Holy shit, Comey is literally just Dale Cooper.

  • Anna Rompage

    Well, I made it through the first of 3 of the in-law cousin parties for the weekend and actually had a great time!

    Hopefully the next two events go as well as this one..

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      in-law cousin parties

      So, you’re in Arkansas?

  • La forza del resistino

    Goldman Sachs CEO Blankfein cracks wise with ‘How did infrastructure week go?’ Everyone is a comedian now just as Betsy DeVos is doing her best to defund performing arts in the schools.

    • TJ Barke

      Ha ha ha, we’re dismantling the country for personal gain.

      • yyyaz

        Or public theft.

        • TJ Barke

          Tomato, treason…

        • not_vh

          never forget that. things are so crazy that all the thievery is not even on the radar. the family is siphoning from both ends and that’s a backburner issue.

      • Jamoche

        I’m still amazed Sears Chief Execution Officer Eddie Lambert hasn’t been offered a Trump cabinet position.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Heck, at this point why not just appoint Bernie Madoff or anyone who was ever involved with Enron. Trump University can open up the “John DeLorean School of International Commerce,” since we’ve all been time-warped back to 1985 and are about to get fluxed right in the capacitor.

          • akryan

            I remember seeing a joke that said, “imagine if it was 1985 and you told someone that one day Senator Al Franken would be vocal critic of President Donald Trump,”. I am convinced that I am just living in one of those bubble universes Stephen Hawking talks about.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Well, nobody thought Ronald Reagan would ever be the president either…

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR5BfQ4rEqQ

          • akryan

            Arnie leading California. Jesse Vintura in Minnesota was the first indication that a bat shit crazy entertainer could be elected.

          • Three Finger Salute

            There was Grandpa Al Lewis, but he ran as a third-party candidate

          • La forza del resistino

            ‘ Curiouser and curiouser’ times said some author writing about rabbit holes..

          • akryan

            has anyone here actually read that book? I’ve never actually read Alice in Wonderland. Can anyone tell me if it’s any good.

          • La forza del resistino

            After the makers of lorazepam got a patent. the whole one pill makes you smaller kinda killed off interest in Alice and Grace Slick for legal reasons.

          • yyyaz

            Not to mention boner pills.

          • redarmyzombie

            It’s fantastic. if you get the chance, read it and the follow up Through the Looking-Glass.

          • sw19covfefe

            It is a classic. Definitely worth reading.

          • sw19covfefe
          • Jennifer R

            it’s a thickly veiled screed attacking advanced mathematics.

          • sw19covfefe

            NO SPOILERS!?!!!!?!!!!

          • akryan

            can you prove that? it doesn’t sound like it adds up. maybe it’s been raised up to that by the power of projection?

          • Jennifer R

            Painful.

          • redarmyzombie

            I remember reading that, but I can’t seem to find where it is (probably Cracked tbh) That said, Charles Dodgson (AKA Lewis Carroll) was an accomplished mathematician who wrote a variety of logic puzzles for his readers, some of which he did hide in his Alice books.

          • Jennifer R

            Our friend from Alaska made a series of math puns.

          • Jennifer R
          • Suttree

            The best part of the joke is that only one of them is truly fit for government.

          • akryan

            It’ll be truly bizarrare if Senator Al Franken runs against the incumbent President Donald Trump in 2020

          • Suttree

            I would vote five times for him. :)

          • akryan

            The more I see him making the political talk show tour the less unlikely it seems. Along with him just releasing a book, it sure does look like a guy thinking about a run.

      • It’s funny ’cause it’s true!

  • Alex Grey

    Voltron is still the defender of the universe!

  • TJ Barke
  • Anna Rompage
  • Three Finger Salute

    Bonne nuit comrades, this Canadiphile below the 49th leaves you tonight with a little Franglais ditty offering some much-needed words of advice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkekqVPIc2M

  • James

    I’m out for the evening.

    • redarmyzombie

      Bonne nuit

  • Jennifer R

    Did I miss a crazy nazi again? Goddamn it I always miss them.

  • La forza del resistino

    About that cherry tree incident, George Washington told his father don’t believe what Comey leaked about it.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Hey guys, what’s the haps?

  • sw19covfefe
  • sw19covfefe
    • not_vh

      @sw as you very well know in parliamentary systems with multiple parties hung parliaments are very common during normal times.

      I’m catching up on all the news from last couple of days; my one line note is that it is the context of Brexit that gives this hung parliament a special meaning.

      • sw19covfefe

        For sure. And full disclosure I’ve made no secret of my preference for consensus politics (and thus coalitions).
        The issue here (in my OP) is running on a Law & Order platform (rightly or wrongly) but not wanting to pay for it.
        Also, too, calling an unnecessary election, and so soon after the creation of fixed-term parliaments.
        As an election wonk, I will happily take the data, but I do not approve. Especially as we’ll have another fucking one in the next 18 months now.

  • pussygrabber in chief

    Some white supremacists, or maybe just one white supremacist and its sock puppets, have turned up in the non-comments on the dead white supremacist.

    • sw19covfefe

      I trust they’re using the Whites Only comments section.
      Wouldn’t want them to catch cooties from all the Undesirables.

    • yyyaz

      Couldn’t find anything newer than an hour ago.

      • pussygrabber in chief

        Yeah. I hadn’t been there in longer than that. I was actually trying to come here, but somehow ended up there. Intertubing is hard.

        • yyyaz

          Always here to help and to piss on morans.

          • pussygrabber in chief

            Please don’t piss on me! I’ll do better, I promise!

  • sw19covfefe
    • La forza del resistino

      Facebook enabled voting seems a solution.

    • yyyaz

      That has been true since I was 12 and road a triceratops to school.

      • sw19covfefe

        Ooh la-di-dah! Not everyone could afford a triceratops when they were a kid, you know!

        • yyyaz

          In my defense, I shared with everyone but my kid brothers.

          • sw19covfefe

            I had to make do with a monitor lizard which sw19dad had glued some cardboard scales down its back. :<

          • HogeyeGrex

            LUXURY!

    • not_vh

      out of high school i was full of bias and no real social experience and i used to be a conservative. After that as i started to read more and get more life experience, my beliefs have changed often but they have always weaned steadily and rapidly from conservatism itself.

  • Raan

    Miss Lucy had a steamboat. The steamboat had a bell. Miss Lucy went to heaven and the steamboat was sold at auction to cover the funeral costs.

    • yyyaz

      Good thing Miss Lucy didn’t have any credit card debt.

    • La forza del resistino

      Nah. Lucy was just leasing the steamboat and the leasing company just made a new contract with Miss Alice.

      • sw19covfefe

        IIRC Lucy organised a reverse mortgage agreement with Alice, via a hedge fund subsidiary.

  • Goddamn teaser trailers. The eight year old in me wants this to be a new Atari console SO BAD. The *mumble* year old in me knows it’s just another fucking emulator and they are trying to get me excited. Fuck it. It’s Friday. Time to be eight years old.

    https://youtu.be/5WNsmCpdhhY

    • Jennifer R

      At this point the only cool things that are both new and atari related are fan produced. <3 atariage.com

  • La forza del resistino

    Paul Ryan: Donald is just new to this and doesn’t understand how government agencies inter relate.
    Well, that make me feel warm and comfy.

    • Try that at a traffic stop. “I’m just new at this and don’t know how to drive good!” If the excuse doesn’t work there, it shouldn’t work a millionty times more as president.

  • Jennifer R

    Wow. He spent a $100,000,000 loan in a single day. Jesus fuck if that is even half true.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-bankruptcies-insig-idUSKCN0ZX0GP

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