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[–]TimeYouNeverGetBack 743 ポイント744 ポイント  (314子コメント)

Most of the Daily Stormer’s donors on WeSearchr are anonymous, with the exception of the comedian Sam Hyde, who pledged $5,000.

When contacted for comment, Hyde asked the reporter if he was Jewish and then boasted that $5,000 was nothing to him. Hyde’s TV show on Cartoon Network’s “Adult Swim” programming block was canceled last year, but not before Hyde amassed a following among the loosely knit movement of white nationalists, misogynists and anti-Semites that has come to be known as the alt-right.

“Don’t worry so much about money. Worry about if people start deciding to kill reporters. That’s a quote,” Hyde said in a phone interview, laughing, when asked why he donated to support the Daily Stormer. “For the reason why, you can say I want reporters to know I make more money than them, especially Matt Pearce.”

Holy shit, LOL.

He can't keep getting away with it.

[–]kylehe 246 ポイント247 ポイント  (112子コメント)

You ever read what he said when reporters asked him about what he thought of that meme?

My wife's boyfriend (open relationship) heard it from the news first and so he and my wife's son were both scared silly for a few days before everything was explained. I also got a call from my rabbi frantically trying to talk me out of doing anything more violent until finally I managed to explain to him that it was a hoax.”

[–]FatCatLikeReflexes 254 ポイント255 ポイント  (108子コメント)

My wife's boyfriend (open relationship)

Wait...the alt-right nazi is fine with his wife getting fucked by other men huh?

Now that's ironic.

[–]WadeWilsonforPope 321 ポイント322 ポイント  (77子コメント)

The guy is very clearly a troll...

[–]FatCatLikeReflexes 272 ポイント273 ポイント  (75子コメント)

What's the difference between someone's who's not pretending, and someone who never stops pretending?

[–]WadeWilsonforPope 113 ポイント114 ポイント  (56子コメント)

This isnt a one time thing.

The guy is known for doing shit exactly like this. Like right now, I havent thought about this twat since he was taking responsibility for a school shooting like a year ago.

He does shit to get attention.

[–]FatCatLikeReflexes 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (51子コメント)

The question remains.

[–]WadeWilsonforPope 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I cant answer that for you.

All I can say is this guy has a record of doing purposely inflammatory things to get attention.

Im thinking troll

[–]boisterous_innuendo 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (0子コメント)

copy-pasting this everywhere because they can't keep getting away with it-

it's been a 4chan meme for a long time to blame Sam Hyde for every shooting, alt-right thing, etc. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/sam-hyde

motherfuckers ain't know their memes these days, god damn.

[–]kurmitthefrug 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (44子コメント)

Just watch his youtube videos and you'll get the picture of his style of humor. It's milliondollarextreme

[–]FatCatLikeReflexes 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (43子コメント)

I'm not going to spend any of my time on a guy who donates money to the Daily Stormer.

[–]AmsterdamJockoFabong 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yet you'll perpetuate a comment thread predicated on the idea that you don't understand his humor. I'm certainly not advocating for him, or even suggesting you look any further into who he his, but you're now sanctimoniously declaring that you don't have time for him while simultaneously trying to mentally grapple with his lame, off-hand comments.

[–]kurmitthefrug 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Alright man. Just letting you know that his youtube videos don't really have any 'alt-right' stuff.

This is my personal favourite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFhR1fKWG0

[–]stratford 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He took responsibility for a crime? What came of that?

[–]arebureboke 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

he never took responsibility for it, /pol/ just started a meme that he was a school shooter.

[–]blarginfadiddlenohip 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He never actually took responsibility, it's a 4chan meme that he's the perpetrator for whatever terrorist attack/school shooting happens in a given week.

[–]strathmeyer 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Pretend to be good every minute of the day and even God won't know the difference." ~ Jewish proverb

[–]swampswing 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

How hard is he pretending? There is a big difference between someone who pretends by saying shit and people who pretend by doing shit.

[–]kylehe 112 ポイント113 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You clearly don't understand the humor. Wife's boyfriend? Rabbi?

Come on now. He was trolling the reporters. From what I can tell, he hates most reporters.

[–]drhuehue 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (0子コメント)

>the joke

>your head

[–]Helmuut 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (1子コメント)

LMAO you honestly thought that he was serious with that quote?

[–]dmix 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You mean the "alt-right nazi" Sam Hyde doesn't have a rabbi?

woosh is an understatement

[–]LowAndLoose 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mom I can't explain memes to you, you just don't get it.

[–]SigmaMu 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That whoosh broke the sound barrier.

[–]AmsterdamJockoFabong 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought it was a very obviously tongue-in-cheek response...

[–]kanada_kid 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is joking. Even his donation to the alt-right hate group was probably a joke. The guy is a top troll.

[–]Typhera 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

made me laugh, so hey. Nuts everywhere...

[–]dingle_dingle_dingle 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Kind of hard to explain but that is part of the joke. He has a particular style of humor that can be hard to pick up on if you're not used to it. You'll see similar stuff in varying degrees on 4chan.

[–]Rabidleopard 115 ポイント116 ポイント  (112子コメント)

I can tell you why his show was cancelled its not funny, its just bad. Also fuck live action on Cartoon Network and Adult Swim.

[–]dingle_dingle_dingle 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Didn't the show have really high ratings? I'm pretty sure that it is well established a lot of the heavy hitters at Adult Swim weren't okay with the show and basically demanded it be cancelled.

[–]Rabidleopard 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (4子コメント)

From what I understand from episode to episode it's rating went down not up which is a bad sign for a show. It was a deathblow when established stars threatened to quit adult swim over it and the shows fans started to threaten said stars and the network over it.

[–]HchrisH 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (18子コメント)

What was the show called? I mean I'm sure it was terrible, as are pretty much all things live action on Adult Swim, but I can't even remember a show that came out last year and then got cancelled.

[–]nulledit 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What was the show called?

Million Dollar Extreme

[–]fashyshub 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

million dollar extreme presents: world peace

[–]imdrinkingteaatwork 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Except Childrens Hospital was the greatest show ever. Black Jesus was great. Check It Out! is great. Tim and Eric is wonderful. You're very wrong.

[–]HchrisH 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Children's Hospital was alright and Black Jesus was pretty good. Check it Out and Tim and Eric were absolute steaming piles of garbage.

[–]POGtastic 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I feel like Tim and Eric is funny if you actually watched public access TV as a kid. Everyone else is baffled and appalled by the stupidity.

[–]absolutedesignz 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. It's a perfect parody of the often super fucking weird things that'd be on late night. Definitely for the over 25 crowd (when it aired).

[–]hate_expectations 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Tim and Eric were great and the movie was one of the funniest I've seen. Then again I'm a Freddy Got Fingered apologist.

[–]taiwannumber2 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Freddy got fingered was sheer brilliance.

[–]DudeAnt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Black Jesus was okay.

Tom Goes To The Mayor > Tim & Eric.

[–]PicturesOfPot 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Must be why the ratings were so good.

[–]anon33249038 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (20子コメント)

"Sadly, it's not illegal to be a douchbag. I think most of us probably wish it were. But I think we realize deep down in our heart of hearts that if it were true, most of us would get the chair."--Dan Weston

[–]larseny13 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Most people are not neo Nazis

[–]dmix 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is true, which is why we probably shouldn't enact dumb laws thanks to the behaviour of a tiny minority.

[–]anon33249038 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I'm confused as to how it matters what kind of douchebag he is. He's not staging a coup or amassing an army or advising crime or blowing himself up or telling others to blow themselves up or really doing anything of any consequence. He's just being a douchebag and saying douchebaggy things. And honestly, the thing that gives douchebags power is people taking them seriously. Don't give them weight they don't have. So how does it matter if he's a particular type of douchebag? How is he different from any other douchebag? I don't think there's any need to bring politics into this. He's a douchebag, that should be enough.

[–]xuxjafavi 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are plenty of other forms of bigotry, including on the left, even at SPLC.

[–]Beazlepup 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Background:

Sam Hyde was a semi-successful internet comedian who even got his own adult swim show for a little while. A vocal supporter of Trump, his entire life was shattered to pieces shortly after the election.

Due to Twitter drama, he lost his job at Adult Swim, and his Health Insurance shortly thereafter. Book sales and ad revenue were not enough to keep his luxurious lifestyle afloat, so it wasn't long enough until he was forced to sell his home and start living on the streets.

Once having a promising career ahead of him, because of Trump, Sam has lost everything in his life - and he still has so much further to fall. With pathetic job growth rates, Trump's dismal economy will certainly not be doing him any favors!

Hope blaming brown people, immigrants and women for your own personal failures was worth it, Sam!

Sad!

[–]MDE-100percentREAL 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Hey, just checking in at my daily visit to the library (free computer)

I just want to say, God bless you for telling my story to the world. Please pray for me.

[–]Eccentric-Centrist 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it was a good choice diversifying your investments, if Pac-Man arcade machines fall through you can fall back on this at least.

[–]SignedUpToSayMagnuss 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

in my ancap paradise, there would be a fee for library computers and you would be working on a farm or slaving away at the meta-economy on Elon Musk's Minecraft server

[–]Juz16 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey Sam just stopping by to ask where we're supposed to meet up when the race war starts, hit me up

[–]ProgressiveFragility 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i thought we all gonna meet at becky's

in her lane, to be specific

[–]TimeYouNeverGetBack 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sam Hyde: A man that is a known white nationalist terrorist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist, and misogynistic loon. Sam Hyde is probably truly one of the most dangerous men in America today. He's like the Cameron character from the movie AMERICAN HISTORY X.

He creates mob mentality to the nth degree, and has abused his influence to send his zombies to attack poor Jewish journalists on a number of occasions. Joe Bernstein of Buzzfeed has been targeted so badly that he has said the New York Times won't ever hire him now. I think these people take pills from Joe Rogan and Alex Jones that make them more susceptible to believing in hate speech as they are always promoting those products as some kind of life-changing drug. Something to look into.

You'll be happy to know, this guy had a show on [Adult Swim], but it got cancelled for being a complete and utter failure with like 3 viewers and inciting racism and terrorism, hahahaha. All it took was one little Buzzfeed article by an upstanding human being speaking nothing but the truth to bring this guy's entire world crashing down.

You would easily be able to see countless example of this monster's flippant race-driven psychopathy on Twitter, if they hadn't already banned him for threatening to hack Twitter after going on endless rants about Jews and pizza tunnels.

With some research, I found that he (Sam Hyde) also made a series called "KickStarterTV" where he openly bashes minorities, women, and transgender people, and makes fun of their KickStarter campaigns that try to make great changes in the world. He can also be seen abusing his mother to the point she tells him to leave her house which is a pretty funny aside, tbh.

He has actually made a book titled How To Bomb The U.S. Govt that seems to be filled with the echoes of White Nationalist ideals and 'raises the spectre' of a world under social progressiveness (like his show). Further, it seems he had even started his own KickStarter campaigns to fund his hate group as well as another to scam poor unsuspecting "bronies" out of money (see: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2110528317/dark-skyes-an-epic-brony-dating-sim ) Can't believe this guy is allowed on Reddit. I'm going to stop here because I'm actually a bit shaken by how much new stuff I've learned about this man with just a little research.

You'll be happy to know I can no longer support such an utter loser. He was never actually funny to begin with. I can't believe I let him turn me into a Nazi at the cost of a few lousy chuckles.

[–]squelchedup 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

he's more than a white nationalist, transphobe etc he's also an ecoterrorist. look it up: he forced 7 women to install solar panels onto their children for, in his own words: "securing a green future by ensuring the next generation embodies the lifestyle to the fullest extent." if it wasn't for the brave whistleblower sarah silverman following the hidden swastikas in construction sites across america he'd have followed through with impregnating women with tree pollen, the logical next step in his horrifyingly misguided plan to stop global warming.

[–]SignedUpToSayMagnuss 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

his "luxurious lifestyle" was buying hundreds of box fans

[–]bobic4 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

only to Kicc em apart, most of the time the camera wasn't even turned on or Joel had it facing the wrong direction

[–]McSquinkle 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What was this guys show on adult swim?

[–]I-Seek-To-Understand 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Get away with what? he never directly threatened anyone.

[–]_Kozer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He has shot up schools, planted bombs, and kidnapped celebrities.

[–]Lamont-Cranston 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

On the contrary he should keep talking like that to show how unhinged he is

[–]ProgressiveFragility 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

idk this mainly shows how unhinged "reporters" are in 2017, if they take him seriuosly

[–]FredTiny 380 ポイント381 ポイント  (95子コメント)

Is this the one where the guy's own mom wanted to sell her house, move away from him, and donate the proceeds to charity in order to separate herself from his extremist views? She contacted the realtor to start the process, but when her son the neo-nazi found out, she turned and blamed it on the Jewish realtor? He dox'd her, and encouraged his... kind of people... to send her threats, so she sued?

::reads::

Yes. Yes, it is.

[–]PM_me_Venn_diagrams 148 ポイント149 ポイント  (70子コメント)

As a big white guy, these guys are just a bunch of lazy pussies who are upset at everyone else for their own stupidity. The aren't even good enough to be Betas. They are complete losers with no work ethic or personal standards.

It's an embarrassment to our country.

[–]fyberoptyk 210 ポイント211 ポイント  (50子コメント)

Ever notice how the people who are white supremacists are people no race would ever want representing them?

Yeah, that shits not a coincidence.

[–]Maria-Stryker 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (35子コメント)

There's a sub for making fun of people like this: /r/beholdthemasterrace

[–]fyberoptyk 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (34子コメント)

That is......more or less exactly as bad as I thought it would be.

How anyone looks at white supremacists and sees anything but failures and losers is beyond me, much less those folks who are such awful human beings that they think "yeah, THATS what I want to be".

[–]hairy_butt_creek 85 ポイント86 ポイント  (28子コメント)

The problem is they're already losers when they become white supremacists. They're just losers looking for a reason as to why they're a loser. It's like when an incel blames women, western society, feminism, media, pop culture, and everything under the sun except himself for his lack of success with women. A white supremacist blames jews, Mexicans, blacks, or Muslims and everyone except themselves and their shitty decisions for their loser life.

You never see normal, well adjusted people at white-supremacist rallies for a reason. Few exist. It's a lot of overweight or underweight people with shitty tattoos, missing teeth, torn up shitty clothes who never amounted to much. It's human nature to want to belong. It's much easier to have an external locus of control. Add in the internet that links these lazy losers together you get the alt-right.

[–]timetide 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (3子コメント)

jesus christ, a neo nazi actually responded to you defending white power ideology

[–]ApollosCrow 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is a major problem that the internet hasn't caught up with yet.

These days, racism and prejudice aren't about nasty slurs and attacks, which would be easy to report and ban. Instead it's these moderated, pseudo-intellectual arguments that are like a Trojan horse for their bullshit xenophobic ideas. It's much more insidious, and attracts a lot more of an audience. Throw in some selective factoids and some rightwing nationalist theory, and they can almost seem like educated people with any kind of valid point.

But they aren't.

They are the same asshole redneck bigots that always fall into this hateful ideology. They just bought a thesaurus and learned how to internet.

I think it is the responsibility of websites, which are private companies with the ability to control content, to suppress this growing plague. I'm tired of these undemocratic, anti-human losers hiding behind "free speech", avoiding consequences and demanding attention. Rhetoric that threatens the life, liberty, or security of other people in a shared public space needs to be shut down. Society is built upon shared values. We need to remember what those values are and start enforcing them more diligently.

[–]Vyzantinist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

These days, racism and prejudice aren't about nasty slurs and attacks, which would be easy to report and ban. Instead it's these moderated, pseudo-intellectual arguments that are like a Trojan horse for their bullshit xenophobic ideas. It's much more insidious, and attracts a lot more of an audience. Throw in some selective factoids and some rightwing nationalist theory, and they can almost seem like educated people with any kind of valid point.

When I see things like this, especially on social media, I just look at it as one long-winded "I'm not racist, but..."

[–]Synteka 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

They are also delusional in thinking that they have support from a lot of different places when they actually don't. Unfortunately a lot of them latch on to the music scene I'm a part of thinking that because we sing angry music (some in German) and some of us have a military aesthetic that we are somehow part of them. If the twats understood any German they would know that 99% of the bands are fully against national-socialism or fascism and that none of us want those pricks in the scene.

[–]Viat0r 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please don't underestimate the number of middle-class and even upper-class people who are white supremacists. Richard Spencer never has to work because his family owns over 5000 acres of cotton fields. He doesn't want for anything.. other than to kick every minority out of America (or more likely kill them) and create a "white ethno-state".

[–]dingle_dingle_dingle 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You see people in all demographics doing that kind of thing. It isn't exclusive to white supremacist dumbos.

[–]pm_your_lifehistory 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

external locus of control

What is this?

[–]originalrhetoric 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

An external locus of control is placing responsibility for the events of your life primarily outside of yourself.

You think of things happening to you, not things which you are responsible for.

You want a healthy balance between internal and external.

[–]Maria-Stryker 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think it has something to do with needing to take pride in something, but having nothing because they've achieved so little. They easily fall for this Aryan master race nonsense because it fills that void, it tells them that they're born special and better

[–]out_o_focus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think what's scarier are the people who don't look like this - people with power or money to buy power. That's how you get the insidious systemic shit we have going on.

[–]juniperroot 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

except it seems like there are more people who aren't losers identifying with the cause, like Steve Bannon and Sam Hyde. And its not clear if they're true believers or just opportunists.

[–]jess_albas_twin 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why do you feel the need to mention you are overweight?

[–]cantlurkanymore 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

did you just assume his body mass index?

[–]xuxjafavi 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a big white guy

Sunburn or GTFO

(in these political times, I guess I need to inform that this is actually a joke)

[–]Mick0331 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I kinda feel like you knew this already.

[–][deleted] 109 ポイント110 ポイント  (55子コメント)

Holy shit, I though Sam Hyde was just a meme. I had no idea he was real.

[–]_dunno_lol 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Of coarse he's real. He's behind every mass murder in the past 3 years.

[–]Helmuut 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (48子コメント)

"When contacted for comment, Hyde asked the reporter if he was Jewish and then boasted that $5,000 was nothing to him." LMAO

Anyone not familiar with Sam Hyde should watch his phony TEDx talk. It's hilarious.

[–]SlimLovin 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (45子コメント)

Yea I'm going to go ahead and continue not supporting actual Nazis, but thanks.

[–]tinklepee 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your loss because that shit was hilarious.

[–]Helmuut 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"What inspires me is teaching African refugees to program javascript!!"

[–]Schmedes 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (26子コメント)

Is he an actual Nazi or is he using this for attention? I can't tell from this thread/article. How was he the only person identified other than making it known himself?

[–]olivias_bulge 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Whats the difference? ive never seen the guy "drop the act" so I started ignoring him like everyone else

[–]ApollosCrow 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Civilization is built upon the exchange of ideas, and people spreading hateful, undemocratic ideas should be rejected in an enlightened society. It doesn't actually matter if he is an "actual Nazi" - people are accountable for the things they say and do.

[–]51rezaf 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Civilization (read: democracy) is built upon the exchange of ideas, that's why we need to make sure that any idea which remotely questions certain ideals is rejected unconditionally"

[–]xuxjafavi 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Southern Poverty Law Center sued him for organizing a “troll storm” against a Jewish woman in Montana.

Anglin made headlines in December when he accused a Whitefish, Mont., real estate agent, who is Jewish, of trying to extort money from the mother of Richard Spencer, one of the nation’s most prominent white nationalists. The real estate agent, Tanya Gersh, denies the claim.

On Dec. 16, Anglin asked his readers to start a “troll storm” against Gersh and posted her address and phone number as well the Twitter account belonging to Gersh’s 12-year-old son, whom Anglin referred to using a derogatory word for Jewish people. “You can also leave a review of her business on Google, and perhaps note that it is [a] front for an extortion racket,” Anglin wrote in the first of many posts about Gersh

So, doxxing, and targeting a minor. I hope Anglin loses in court. (I used a more colorful term, but ... well these are the times we live in)

[–]Hoxhaism-Bookchinism 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Damn a lot of Nazis in this thread. Also a lot of right wingers pretending Nazis don't exist. Really makes you think.

[–]hsxp 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They could have given that money to sick puppies.

[–]SolipsistsGuide 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are notoriously bad at budgeting and their paws make it so notes and change fall allover the floor. I would give it to some kind of established foundation that supports animals.

[–]ShuRugal 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (11子コメント)

“bounties” for damaging information about liberals, leftists and moderate Republicans such as Sen. John McCain of Arizona.

anyone who thinks that John McCain is anything approaching left or center is a fucking lunatic who needs to be forcibly introduced the world outside his mother's basement in West Virginia.

[–]jaredschaffer27 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (4子コメント)

liberals, leftists and moderate Republicans

He IS a moderate Republican...

[–]TehJohnny 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guy shut down a crazy old lady calling Obama a Muslim at one of his Presidential campaign rallies back in the day. Crazy rednecks never forget​.

[–]nontoxicreddit 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mccain would be deeply disturbed by your comment... then continue doing nothing.

[–]Theocletian 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (22子コメント)

These White Nationalists are the losers of their own racial group. Almost every type of group has these types of losers who think that somehow if everyone was just like them, things would be better. They do not realize if they got their wish and were only around people like them, they would still be at the bottom, only now they will not have people who are different from them to blame when things inevitably go wrong.

[–]FatCatLikeReflexes 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (20子コメント)

No, they don't want everyone to be just like them, they want the system rigged so that people like them "win" instead of "lose."

That's why it's all about the white identity politics - in their fantasy Fascist remake of America they'll have an artificial status granted to them by their race and their politics much like many previous unaccomplished men gained status by becoming early Nazis.

[–]Tyler_Vakarian 210 ポイント211 ポイント  (198子コメント)

Prepare yourself for the incoming defense from the strangely high amount of people on Reddit who defend Nazi's.

There's probably a huge overlap of those people and the ones who bitch about BLM or "Leftists".

[–]alice-in-canada-land 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I upvoted you. And that made your karma score "88".

I'm feeling very conflicted...

[–]ani625 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Yeah, the nazi defense league or whatever. They're beyond pathetic.

[–]lnsetick 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Won't someone please think of the Nazis?

[–]danger_voice 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Yesterday was D-Day. I thought about them a lot, like about how they're a bunch of losers who couldn't even defend a few beaches lol.

[–]Wandos7 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still think those Nazis would be ashamed of these guys.

[–]FREE_PALESTINE_NOW 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Uh... very few Nazis alive today were also alive during world war 2. Do you imagine Andrew Anglin and David Duke manning the emplacements on some beach in Normandy or something?

[–]Fang92 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (113子コメント)

Im just concerned that you think all nazis should be punched in the face while at the same time you call everyone nazis.

[–]Tyler_Vakarian 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (93子コメント)

To be fair, punching Nazi's is always ok.

[–]twanas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are a lot of amoral thugs in our country

[–]GnaeusQuintus 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We just observed the anniversary of D-Day. How is it possible that we have nominal 'Americans' who support Nazi ideas?

[–]JustheretoJoel69 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People who feel unfairly treated or ignored by society, it's the same reason you have Islamist terrorists or black gangs.

They feel like no one cares about them so they strike out and attempt to make their own parallel society where they can feel accepted.

Why is it easy for people to understand that accusing all Muslims of being terrorists can radicalise them, but accusing middle to lower class white americans of being gap toothed racist nazi hicks won't radicalise them?

You ignore an "outcast" group and it gets worse.

[–]Phlox_carolina 96 ポイント97 ポイント  (91子コメント)

The Southern Poverty Law Center demonstrated its lack of credibility when it labeled Maajid Nawaz & Ayan Hirsi Ali anti-Muslim extremists.

[–]Fucklebutt 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reading Hirsi Ali's autobiography right now. It's unbelievable to me that she's been labeled a bigot.

[–]toetheapprovedline 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bingo. This case is two piles of shit arguing over fly loading.

[–]Exist50 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (4子コメント)

People have been saying that about the SPLC in some form or another since day 1.

[–]bonjouratous 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! Glad people remember. We shouldn't let this go. Progressives like myself are led to believe that The Southern Poverty Law Center is on our side but in reality it is defending the conservative interpretation of Islam against its reformers. The SPLC supports religious authoritarianism. They are not progressive, they are a tool of religious oppression.

[–]DBDude 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (70子コメント)

... my position is the same as the ACLU's was in Skokie: free speech even for the speech we dislike

I have to agree there.

[–]shwag945 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (47子コメント)

Threats are not free speech.

[–]Lamont-Cranston 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (26子コメント)

It has to be very specifically worded for it to not be free speech

[–]shwag945 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Neo-Nazis aren't known for their subtlety.

[–]DBDude 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Unfortunately, you're wrong these days. They got smart. Most of them have learned that violence and threats easily allow everyone else to point at them as the bad guys. Now they stay within the law, and the extortion (as above) and violence are the fault of the people they piss off, and they get to be the good guys, the actual victims of leftist oppression.

[–]Lamont-Cranston 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Unless they're advocating or inciting criminal acts its speech

[–]shwag945 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (15子コメント)

[–]dmix 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate this idea that pointing out dumb/wrong things people say is defending nazis.

[–]Lamont-Cranston 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I don't need to know the specifics to support in general the right to expression of people I despise.

provides evidence that they are advocating and inciting

Case closed.

However it seems that this started after people targeted Spencers parents - they have nothing to do with him.

Is that going to do good, or is it just about feeling good and oh by the way also escalate tension as Spencer's supporters predictably retaliate in kind?

[–]buckingbronco1 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True threats; which are likely to result in imminent and likely lawlessness, are not protected.

Threats that don't satisfy those requirements are protected. That's how Eminem can rap about killing his estranged wife without being arrested.

[–]DBDude 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (17子コメント)

The real estate agent and political activist attempted to extort money from this Nazi's mom, leveraging her son's identity as a Nazi. In response, the Nazi invited his readers to:

Just make your opinions known. Tell them you are sickened by their Jew agenda to attack and harm the mother of someone whom they disagree with. Again – as always – don’t make any threats of violence and certainly don’t do anything violent. Don’t ever do anything illegal, ever. It is well within your rights to tell these people what you think of their actions, trying to extort Richard Spencer’s family.

This obviously is not covered under threats.

[–]McSchwartz 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (7子コメント)

He is not stupid enough to post an obvious incitement to violence, as he knew that was illegal. He knew what he was doing was a "troll storm", something they've done before and knew would result in large numbers of actual death threats getting sent. It had the intended effect:

The bulk of the messages were sent from email addresses bearing user names like Satan@666death.com and youf***ingkike@hotmail.com, and arrived replete with threats of death, violence and slurs against the Gersh family’s Jewish faith.

http://flatheadbeacon.com/2017/04/25/target-troll-storm-sues-shut-neo-nazi-website/

Furthermore

The lawsuit contends that Anglin coordinated the campaign of harassment by posting contact information for Tanya Gersh, her husband and the couple’s 12-year-old son, calling on his readers to drum up an “old fashioned Troll storm.

“And hey — if you’re in the area, maybe you should stop by and tell her in person what you think of her actions,” Anglin’s initial post reads.

The lawsuit before U.S. District Judge Dana Christensen alleges invasion of privacy, the infliction of intentional emotional distress and violations of the Montana Anti-Intimidation Act, and attorneys say the incredible volume of abusive electronic messages demonstrates that Anglin “sought to maximize the troll storm’s terrorizing effect” on the Gersh family.

[–]DBDude 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (4子コメント)

He is not stupid enough to post an obvious incitement to violence

Only obvious incitements to violence will pass constitutional muster. In the court case this is based on, the guy actually promoted the killing of government officials in general, and that was considered protected speech. Even if the SPLC wins this, it will be thrown out on appeal, and they know it. The goal here is to abuse the court system in order to bankrupt the Nazis.

This is no different than when the liberals get all worked up at a conservative and get nasty.

[–]McSchwartz 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The cases are different. Brandenburg v. Ohio right? This cases uses different laws. Read the actual lawsuit:

https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/whitefish_complaint_finalstamped.pdf

They're suing for "invasion of privacy, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and violations of Montana’s Anti-Intimidation Act".

According to the previous article I posted, legal experts weighed in, and they said that the plaintiffs have to "show that what Anglin did was extreme and outrageous, and that he knew the consequences, and that his actions resulted in actual harm and suffering", and that he "intended the troll storm as a true threat" and finally "whether he is protected under the Communications Decency Act of 1996."

EDIT:

It makes a difference whether or not you're targeting a large group generally or you're naming individuals.

Unlike some First Amendment cases in which the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that defendants’ speech was protected — such as the case of a group of Westboro Baptist Church picketers who demonstrated outside of the military funeral of Matthew Snyder, the son of a gay man — the Daily Stormer’s troll storm directly targeted the Gersh family.

[–]JustheretoJoel69 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

youf***ingkike@hotmail.com

I like how to blocked out the curseword but not the racial remark lol.

[–]timetide 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (11子コメント)

still waiting to see you defend radical imams calling for your daughters death

[–]DuBu52 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

$150K ain't exactly a ton of money for an extensive litigation battle.

[–]adam_demamps_wingman 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (13子コメント)

So every time you read someone on the Internet say the SPLC is lying or is somehow corrupt and misleading, just remember who it is that's spreading those lies.

Prolly someone on SPLC's list of white supremacist militias or list of terrorist organizations or list of...

[–]Doommanzero 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah like that hate symbol frog they called out.

[–]HereForGames 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

When the Clinton campaign and SPLC decided to take aim at Pepe I really couldn't take either one seriously anymore.

[–]CaptainJank 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or, a bunch of pieces of shit hate the SPLC, and also the SPLC has independently made a lot of stupid mistakes as well.

[–]lout_zoo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

or list of record labels that have controversial artists?
I find it hard to take the SPLC seriously after they put Soleilmoon on their hate groups list because they had Death in June and Boyd Rice records in their catalog.

[–]adam_demamps_wingman 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gersh said she was barraged by harassment, and the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit that tracks extremist groups and sometimes drives them into bankruptcy through lawsuits.

That's the important thing. Take all these haters' money. They get scared people to give them money. So take their money away by suing the living hell out of them.

[–]SigmaMu 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Full text here: https://medium.com/@recnepss/does-love-really-live-here-fff159563ba3

My name is Sherry Spencer, and I am Richard Spencer’s mom. I’m a resident of Whitefish, Montana, and am the proud owner of a beautiful mixed-use facility in town.

It was years ago now that I first broke ground on the building, which features vacation-rental apartments and office spaces. I hired a local architect and builder to bring my ideas to life — and both exceeded my expectations.

I am the sole owner of the facility. It was built, not just with my capital, but with my ideas and sensibility. The apartments even include my original artwork, and the rooftop garden features my ceramic mural, which celebrates the Whitefish Winter Carnival.

In other words, I poured my heart and soul into this project.

The building opened in late 2015, and received wide acclaim from the local press. And the vacation apartments have been enjoyed by people from around the world.

Richard does not own the building, nor has he ever used it for his writing or publishing. Put simply, the building has nothing to do with politics — and it has everything to do with tourism and local businesses.

I had no intention of selling . . . until I started receiving terrible threats in the last couple of weeks.

These threats came from Tanya Gersh, a local realtor with links to “human rights” organizations Love Lives Here and the Montana Human Rights Network.

On November 22, Gersh and I spoke on the phone. She relayed to me that if I did not sell my building, 200 protesters and national media would show up outside — which would drive down the property value — until I complied. Gersh’s other conditions included that I make a public denunciation of my son in a statement written by the Montana Human Rights Network and that I make a donation to this organization from the sale of the property. As Gersh announced on Facebook, she was “spear heading” the campaign.

Gersh followed up on her conditions in a number of emails, which I’ve just made public. She even shamelessly suggested that she act as my realtor! In other words, she and the local “human rights” organizations appeared to seek financial benefit from threats of protests and reputation damage. The same day Gersh first contacted me, I received a sales offer, even though I had not expressed any intention to sell, nor had anything been publicized.

Whatever you think about my son’s ideas — they are, after all, ideas — in what moral universe is it right for the “sins” of the son to be visited upon the mother?

In those e-mails Tanya Gersh literally provided Sherry Spencer with a pre-written letter, written in her voice, denouncing her own son.

What Sherry Spencer chose to actually write was this Medium article.

It seems exceedingly unlikely that Sherry Spencer called Tanya Gersh to arrange the sale of her building to denounce her son, then did a complete 180 and wrote a scathing and dishonest medium piece. What possible motivation could she have to do that?

The exceedingly likely scenario is that things happened the way Sherry Spencer said they did.

[–]Absobloodylootely 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Glad I've made my donation to SPLC this year.

[–]HistoryBuff92 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Gotta keep the fight up against those Nazi frogs and hand signs!

[–]Fang92 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You forgot the milk.

[–]Absobloodylootely 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I can see why the alt-right hate the SPLC. It comes with the turf of being an organization that fights hate crime.

[–]JustGlassin 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (23子コメント)

Shocking, even more so because over 500,000 people donated money.

[–]fyberoptyk 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Average donation: 30 cents.

Sounds about right.

[–]RandomStrategy 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm not defending the assholes here, but the 500k people that donated could have been misled (I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt here).

With all the 'Insert Infectious Disease/Cancer' Awareness non-profits and stuff like that out there that don't really use donations on things like research or helping the people (from what I've read Wounded Warriors may be guilty of said shenanigans), maybe the people who donated were misled.

Again, I'm not defending anyone here, I'm just giving the benefit of the doubt until the 500k people who supposedly donated have been proven to know what they donated to.

[–]adam_demamps_wingman 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Here's a map of the 917 hate groups identified by the SPLC.

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

Consider making a donation to the SPLC. Maybe a $1 a hate group. Or a dime a hate group. Give a $1 at least for every Nazi group though. They've earned it.

[–]ShieldProductions 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Damn. 300,000 people donated their entire paycheck to raise this amount. That's impressive.

[–]EvilErnie 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (68子コメント)

Well at least this guy seems like a real neo nazi. Nice to see people get it right for once. I actually had doubts until I read the article, because everyone is labelled a white supremacist these days.

[–]ApollosCrow 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (51子コメント)

Um. I think if you're being labeled a white supremacist by lots of people, there's usually a reason.

The reality is not that the term is being over-used - the reality is that extreme racism and hate-think is far more common than people realized. As the far/alt-Right has become emboldened by our current political shitfest, they are becoming louder and more noticeable. Which means rejecting them requires more diligence.

[–]EvilErnie 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (13子コメント)

You only need to be labelled by notable news media. Gavin McGinnes is conservative, but is labelled a white nationalist. If you watch any of his stuff you would know this not to be the case.

Trump is labelled a white supremacist. Justin fuckin Trudeau has been labelled a white supremacist by some. Anyone who disagrees with them is a nazi and it's getting ridiculous.

So ya, when I see a news headline claiming someone to be one of the above pejorative terms I don't take it seriously without looking into it more.

As a white man I think I've only met one or two people who I would consider a white supremacist.

[–]ApollosCrow 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (10子コメント)

You don't get it. People may technically misuse the term, if you wanted to get into a pointlessly semantic debate, but there is typically a reason the term is being used at all. And your examples prove my point.

Trudeau is irrelevant here - that was one person calling him that at a rally, in service of a bigger point about western history. I'm talking about when many people in a society of shared progressive values are raising questions about someone's racist views and policies, because those things are on record. Which absolutely applies to McInnes and Trump.

[–]jaredschaffer27 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (22子コメント)

Um. I think if you're being labeled a white supremacist by lots of people, there's usually a reason.

Like Milo Yiannopolous, Gavin McInnes, PewDiePie, Donald Trump, etc? Plus anyone of even a slightly right-of-center bent is routinely labeled a neo-Nazi on Twitter. They even call Sargon these names. People who attend pro-Trump or pro-free speech protests are labeled fascists and white supremacists by virtue of their attendance alone.

"Where there's smoke, there's fire" is absolutely what the people who hurl these insults hope people will think. It's the worst sort of name-calling, and I am glad that people have stopped taking it as seriously as they would have even two years ago.

[–]lout_zoo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Last time I looked at /r/beholdthemasterrace , it had devolved into pictures of normal-looking Trump supporters. Half the posts were basically an /r/fatpeoplehate for hateful leftitsts.
edit: apparently /r/beholdthemasterrace has returned to its normal content of actual neo-Nazis and tards using Nazi/white supremacist symbols. Nice to see.

[–]LiquidAether 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (12子コメント)

everyone is labelled a white supremacist

No, only the white supremacists are.

[–]EvilErnie 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Like you?

[–]LiquidAether 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (9子コメント)

What the fuck are you talking about?

[–]EvilErnie 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Well, you said that only white supremacists gets labelled as such. I gave you that label, so you are a white supremacist.

[–]LiquidAether 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Stop being obtuse. You knew exactly what I meant.

[–]EvilErnie 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (6子コメント)

No, I didn't actually.

And if you think I literally meant everybody. It's called hyperbole.

[–]LiquidAether 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You were trying to say that people call everyone they disagree with Nazis. That's not true. There are a lot of alt right people who really are white supremacists who get called out on it. And there are lots of people we disagree with who are not Nazis, so we don't call them Nazis.

[–]EvilErnie 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Who is 'we?'

Please give me a list of prominent people of influence who are legitimate white supremacists.

Typically those labelled as such are people who think the Western way of life is the best, object to those who want to change it and wish to take steps to protect it, even if it steps on some toes.

Big difference from someone who thinks their race is inherently better and/or wishes to exterminate another race for being different.

[–]LiquidAether 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Steve Bannon, Richard Spencer, Jeff Sessions for one. Trump is a bigot, but not necessarily a supremacist.

[–]WienerJungle 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also non white supremacists since some people forgot what judgement and nuance are.

[–]TheNorthComesWithMe 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

everyone is labelled a white supremacist these days

That's not even close to true.