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Racist assholes went ahead and held a “Trump Free Speech Rally” Sunday after Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler failed to shut it down, because the First Amendment really is the law. Outnumbered about ten to one by counter-demonstrators, the racist shithead rally went forward with minimal trouble, thanks to judicious policing and restraint by most of the counter-protesters. The “alt-right” Nazis pretended to give two shits about free speech — as long as it’s theirs — and police managed to keep three distinct groups of counter-protesters — labor organizers and union members, antifascists and anarchists wearing black and ready for a fight, and a bunch of plain old anti-racism demonstrators on the steps of City Hall — away from the bigots.

Police wearing riot gear did clear antifascist and black bloc demonstrators from nearby Chapman and Lownsdale squares, using flash-bang grenades, tear gas, and pepper balls to disperse the antifa folks after “masked protesters threw bloody tampons into police ranks while chanting, ‘All cops are bastards.'” Yeah, nice folks. Police arrested either 14 people (said the Oregonian) or 4 people (Willamette Week), and temporarily detained about 200 people by “kettling” them within a cordon of cops.

The Washington Post noted that the location of the Nazi demonstration, Portland’s Terry Schrunk Plaza, captured the tensions in the city. On one side was City Hall, where pro-diversity hippies and younguns said Portland was a nicer place without racism. In the middle were the schmucks with their pro-Trump and “Multiculturalism is Code for White Genocide” signs. Nearby was the jail holding white nationalist Jeremy Christian, who murdered two people and seriously injured another when they tried to protect two women Christian was screaming racist taunts at on a commuter train.

Christian had been photographed doing Hitler salutes at a previous rally held by the same “alt-right” group, Patriot Prayer, which is desperately trying to suggest it has nothing to do with hatred at all, oh no, definitely not:

Patriot Prayer’s Joey Gibson, who has said that his group tried to eject Christian from the April protest, brought a message of peace to Portland: “I want everybody here . . . to find it in yourself to make this day positive, with no hate and no violence,” he told the crowd. “We have to understand Portland is legitimately shaken up right now.”

He called on his supporters to “prove them wrong. . . . Hatred is a disease. We need to start spreading love to get rid of this hate.”

And indeed, on its Facebook page the day before the rally, Patriot Prayer announced it didn’t want anyone there who was too publicly racist, because racism’s bad, you know?

NAZI, KKK, IDENTITY europa, or ANY OTHER White Nationalists WILL NOT BE ALLOWED INTO THE EVENT TOMORROW.

On the other hand, a little bit of racism is fine as long as it’s limited to a playful meme that only pretends to be sorta fascist, while winking:

One of the love-filled folks at the love-filled Patriot Pride rally, John Durano, who showed up wearing “a shiny body suit decorated with a cross made from American flag stickers,” came all the way from Los Angeles so he could stand up for American Values, with love: “I do have white pride,” he said. “What’s wrong with that?” See? He loves white people!

Willamette Week noted that many of the “Free Speech” folks were — you may be astonished to learn — not actually from Portland, and were worried they might face counter-protesters as they went to their cars to drive back to wherever:

Supporters of the free speech rally dwindled to about 100 people after police declared the square closed. They faced off with about three times that many counterprotesters. Then the rally leadership emerged, flanked by about a dozen bikers they had hired to provide event security.

From there, the rally leaders wandered through the city, looking for the parking garage where they left their cars. Some were from Tacoma, others from the Bay Area or Vancouver, Washington. None knew where they were going and some seemed genuinely scared of the protesters who followed.

Small skirmishes broke out, with rally organizer Joey Gibson facing off in a yelling match with antifa at one point and an antifa member later provoking a fist fight with a rally attendee.

One of the featured speakers at the rally, Kyle Chapman, a multiple felon known to admirers as “Based stickman” because he hit a leftist demonstrator in Berkeley over the head with a stick, explained to Willamette Week that a week after a double murder was the perfect time to hold an “alt-right” rally:

“Why not hold this event? We need to talk about free speech,” he told WW. “Why would we not hold this event? Because some left-wing mentally-ill person killed somebody? This is when people need to come out and communicate about our differences. Let’s all come out and talk about it. That dude was a mentally ill Jill Stein supporter that vowed to assassinate Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.”

In mere reality, Jeremy Christian is an “Odinist” who’s covered with tattoos of Nordic runes, and who boasted of his dreams of one day helping to bring back the Third Reich, which would technically be the fourth one, but nobody said these guys logic good:

“Brown shirts are rank and file,” he wrote on Facebook on Jan. 23. “Nihilist Criminals like me facilitate and run the show if we are talking about recreating the third Reich. You need unhindered and unhinged thugs for dirty work. A Good thing we have the largest collection of them in the entire world!!!”

Nope, not exactly a lefty, we’d say. For his own part, Chapman had this message of love at the rally:

“I was just one person, you know, and I made a shield, and I took a stick, threw my gas mask on and my helmet, and I went in there and I cracked the skulls of some commies that were attacking us [whoops and applause] and now today we’re all here together standing up for liberty and freedom!”

He’s for cracking commie skulls in a loving way, is all. He’s also very worried that Trump supporters are being oppressed, the poor dears.

And so the nice “alt-right” folks had their 2-hour hate, the antifa jerks didn’t manage to tear up anything more than some free newspaper stands, and Portland survived. The whole wretched spectacle will return on June 10 when Joey Gibson and his Patriot Prayer crowd return to Portland (Gibson actually lives in Vancouver, Washington) for a “March Against Sharia,” since Portland is apparently in imminent danger of implementing a radical Islamic caliphate.

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  • Crystalclear12

    They seem nice.

  • ‘Covfefe is Magic’ Ron

    Poor Portland. What did Portland ever do to deserve this?

    • Lego Ezio

      I feel so bad for the Trail Blazers. Even more than the Knicks.

    • puredog

      Well, Oregon’s Constitution enshrined white supremacy in 1857. But not so much lately.

    • Bigby

      They got rid of the original 24 Hour Church of Elvis and reaped the whirlwind, uhHUH HUH HUH!

  • CriticalDragon1177

    Doktor Zoom,

    Violent or not, this rally still sucks and the people who went to it were a bunch of whiny losers! Just saying what had to be said

  • Michael R
    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Spicey curled up under his desk with a fifth of cheap scotch?

      • efoveks

        “Ran outta gum. Went to the store; will be back soon.”– Spicey

        • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

          Who knew the store was in Buenos Aires?

    • CriticalDragon1177

      Covfefe will never get old!

      • Covfefe

        Neither did Peter Pan.

    • thank-you-thing
      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        *blinks*
        It’s the PRESS ROOM in the WHITE HOUSE! This isn’t some clambake jamboree, you jumped-up hillbilly!

      • ‘Covfefe is Magic’ Ron

        I know they’re comfortable, washable and affordable, but dammit, a WH press conference is no place to wear scrubs.

    • Vincent Ricola

      So far it’s been an eternity of questions about electronic VA records and an OMGOBAMACARESUCKSIT prepared statement. I’m not impressed.

  • Indivisible Snark Tank

    Yr Wonkette looks OK in black, but never with a balaclava.

    Whattaya got agin’ delicious Middle Eastern desserts, huh?

    http://www.marinhomestead.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/baklava_final01.jpg

    • efoveks

      Now you’ve done it. I’m hungry and I want a cup of coffee.

      • Indivisible Snark Tank

        My job here is done…

    • Damn….i want that

    • mailman27

      Let me hear your balaclava ringing out
      Come and keep your comrade warm

  • memzilla Ω

    …many of the “Free Speech” folks were… not actually from Portland…

    George Soros paid their gas money to come to Portland so he could make their entire movement look bad. Man, that’s some 11 dimensional chess right there.

  • Bill D. Burger

    ot…but …They’ve sent out “SooooWeee” Huckabee at today’s presser. Can’t find Spicey, I guess.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9084e6d4dd432e91a282d57a8f42abdbfec43047fb595701240f1ed5864764a1.jpg

    (*Huckabee does add just a lil’ extra of that Southern “Whuuuut’ tha’ hay-ull’ is a goin’ on?” – feel to the presser.)

  • OrG

    These assholes will be vastly outnumbered every time they come to Portland. Also too they can fuck off.

  • Lego Ezio

    Hmmm…..now where oh where would a racist killer possibly get the idea that he was being an advocate for free speech?

    It’s a mystery….

  • Jgb979

    “He’s also very worried that Trump supporters are being oppressed”

    There are currently 12 articles being written at any particular time explaining what Trump voters from backwoods Kentucky want and how they now run the nation.

    If anything Trump supporters need MORE oppression

  • Anna Rompage

    It’s a pretty sad situation when the people who proclaim to be anti fascist come off more fascist, than the nazi fascists they’re there to protest against…

    Every nazi deserves a good punch to the face at the very least, but throwing bricks, among other things at the cops is no way to advance the message…

    When the nazi fascists appear to be more civilized than the anti fascists, the antifa have lost, and they make the Nazi’s look like victims in the eyes of many…

    • Beanz&Berryz

      And doing anti-fascism wrong, also too

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    “Because some left-wing mentally-ill person killed somebody? That dude was a mentally ill Jill Stein supporter that vowed to assassinate Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.”

    If these people had any fuckin’ guts they wouldn’t accept their guy did a bad thing…but they don’t have guts. They’re turds.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Seriously. So left-wingers are muslim-lovers that love muslims so much that we’d harass them on public transportation and then murder the people who tried to defend them. Make sense, you goobers.

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        “If the President doesn’t have to, I don’t have to!” – goobers

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        IKR?

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        Their logic is all bendy and twisty and would make really great stocking stuffers.

        • Ill-Advised

          Like pretzels, their logic improves with salt.

    • Bill D. Burger

      “Trump supporters: In your guts, you know they’re nuts.”

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

      To these Brain-dead Assholes, “Liberal”, “Left-Wing”, etc. are just their labels for “Not My Tribe”.

      It is worth neither the brainwork nor bandwidth to debate them.

    • Persistent Demme

      Well, on CNN, (home of Ivanka is the bestest Jewess ever!), Jeffrey Lord did tell Van Jones that the KKK was a left-wing organization.
      (I sense strategery here that must be stopped.)

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        oh god, that’s an outgrowth of the “the KKK was started by democrats” crap they’ve been spewing for years.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    John Durano, who showed up wearing “a shiny body suit decorated with a cross made from American flag stickers,” came all the way from Los Angeles so he could stand up for American Values, with love: “I do have white pride,” he said. “What’s wrong with that?”

    “Because, jeez, you use a little of the rhetoric and dog-whistles from the racist right, and suddenly everyone thinks you’re one of them! How UNFAIR!!!”

    • Indivisible Snark Tank

      I dunno. With the exception of the cross, I get the impression that this guy would fit right in at a Pride Parade (and it IS the season for them!).

    • Persistent Demme

      He came all the way from LA?
      Wow.
      What a sacrifice.
      I’m underwhelmed.

  • William
  • Vincent Ricola

    I feel sorry for the wife of the one married weirdo guy who keeps asking her for her used tampons so he can pass them out to his weirdo protestor friends as throwing ammunition. That poor lady.

    • Querolous

      One married weirdo guy – “Yo talkin ’bout my sister?”

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Anna Rompage
      • Crank Tango

        I gif’ed that just in case anyone needs it. https://media.giphy.com/media/TsSN3cXxBmQVy/giphy.gif

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          This is hilarious – you can see the “oops, this looks bad” moment, and the pasted-on grin she hoped would somehow erase it.

          • chicken thief

            Oh, come on! That’s the standard “Miss America Heil Hitler” wave they taught all the candidates in 1943 Berlin!!!

          • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

            You think? I think she did it on purpose.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I’m midway through “The Dark Valley” Piers Brendon’s excellent book on the 1930’s. I think that Trumps a dime store Mussolini wannabe at best. Given the right conditions, including Trump created conditions, he could become more.
      He could also end up like Mussolini, too (with votes).

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Based on this report, I think the only group who didn’t show up was Timbers Army

    • OrG

      Still savoring the 2-0 victory from Friday night!

  • So a guy walks into a rape trial with an actress who played his daughter on TV….

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.
    https://media1.giphy.com/media/qXeCnRHviLbby/200.webp#0-grid1

    • OrdinaryJoe

      It would be idiotic not to recklessly speculate about that relationship…..

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    What do you know, they managed to convince him not to shoot himself in the foot again!
    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/871794047626731523

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Because, yes, he would not just be shooting himself in the foot, he would be shooting his foot on full rock and roll!

    • TakingAmes

      Sure, that’s the word today. Any takers on whether he reverses course before Thursday?

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tank Grrl

        2-1.

        • Mehmeisterjr

          As of 9:45 pm 3-1.

          Take those odds now because after midnight the Vegas odds will be 10-1.

    • jesterpunk

      You mean he actually learned when he tried that with Baddass Sally Yates and she told him to go fuck himself?

      • Cat Cafe Honors Paris Accord

        I find the whole thing suspicious. You know he never learns anything. Ever.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          He’s like a living Seinfeld episode.

          • Mehmeisterjr

            He only thinks he is the Master of His Domain. He is not even the Master of His Own Brain.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      Twittler has blown any privilege our of existence.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      He’s already blown the privilege – maybe they went out and found a competent attorney to explain that to him.

      • chicken thief

        I thought he just blew President Bannon. Where does he find the time what with blowing Bannon, playing golf, and full time twitterizing?!

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          Time for what? That’s all he does.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Any word on the alleged “tape” the president of the goddamned United States threatened to “expose” James Comey with?

      Seriously, why are they letting him get away with that?

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      He may change his mind, because nobody knows more about anything, whether it be lawyering, fighting terrorism, or healthcare, than Trumpy.

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        Well, in his defense, he does have a big brain and he knows all the best words.

    • therblig

      until he does

    • Cat Cafe Honors Paris Accord

      Oh, they’re probably up to something, you know they are

    • NastyBossetti

      Didn’t they also say, “Of course he’ll confirm article 5” and then he stripped that paragraph out of his NATO speech on his own when no one was looking? None of these people, including the president himself, have any credibility.

    • MizzMazz

      Shallow me is here to say: “Oh, honey, not that shirt.”

      • Cliff Hendroval

        “It’s a genuine Ivanka!”

        • MizzMazz

          Then Ivanka stole it from my grandma’s vinyl picnic tablecloth.

      • blarg

        She seems like she has WAY more makeup on than usual. I think this is Trump’s doing. Wants her to “dress like a woman,” and to him that means Fox News lady.

        • MizzMazz

          She kind of looks like I do most days, unkept hair, I might bother with lipstick, and my clothing style is different, but if *I* were going to get on a podium and speak for the WH, you KNOW I would get my hair done, put on a decent outfit, and have someone advise me on what looks good. she looks fine for lunch at Applebees, but not for going on TV representing the USofA

          • Erala Contratista

            She is representing Drumph, not the US.

    • Ill-Advised

      Which shall be immediately spun as, “See? We have nothing to hide! And everything he said is wrong, and if it wasn’t, Covfefe.”

  • Villago Delenda Est
    • … but if you do actually, you know, FIGHT the alt-right like Steve Rogers is doing in the pic attached, Dok Zoom will heavily snark on you. :-/ I think the Black Bloc go too far sometimes but the anti-fa tactic of physically confronting Nazis on the street is the only one which has been historically proved to work – Cable Street 1936, Lewisham 1977. You cannot use free speech against Nazis for the same reason you can’t play chess against a pigeon.

  • The Green Bastard

    I keep reading it as “Trump-Free Speech Rally”.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      We could all use a lot more “Trump-Free” in our lives.

      Unless we’re talking about prison.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Unfortunately, even if we do somehow get a Trumpfree administration, it will just be loaded up with High Nutcase Pence Syrup.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          Stuck between a rockhead and a dence-pence space.

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack
    • jaspersdad

      Fascism is not to be debated. It is to be smashed.

      • ‘Covfefe is Magic’ Ron

        Some ideas from the 40s need to be forgotten. This is NOT one of them.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “I am way too cool for this assholes.”
    — Odin

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “Spiders are great!”
    — Arachnaist Protester

  • Gummitch

    To be fair, Vancouver, Washington to Portland isn’t exactly a long trip. Vancouver is basically a bedroom community for Portland and, other than the awful commute, is essentially next door.

    • OrG

      Geographically close, but far apart in many other ways.

      • exinkwretch

        The Clark County government is controlled by a gang of Tea Party dipshits.

    • Bemused

      I was under the impression that pretty much everyone who lives in Vancouver goes to Portland to shop.

      • exinkwretch

        Yes, because no sales tax in Oregon.

        • Bemused

          Of course they generally are living in Vancouver to avoid state income-tax as well. :P

      • OrG

        No sales tax!

  • BadKitty904
  • Latverian Diplomat

    “We oppose other violent groups! But hypocrisy is fine!”
    — Black Bloc Protesters

  • Le Covfefe Royal
    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Stealing. I don’t know how many times I’ve put some shelf on backwards or upside down. With screws that I stripped the heads off trying to get them in with the drill.

  • Juan de Fuca

    Just finished skimming through the linked article on repeat felon Kyle Chapman and it reaffirms my belief that RWNJ’s like Chapman pose a much greater threat to our personal safety than ISIS. Without a doubt.

    He’s also another example of how far behind we are when it comes to metal health care because that guy isn’t firing on all cylinders, yet is somehow allowed to walk around carrying hitting people with a large curtain rod while defending himself with a plywood Captain America shield.

    He needs help before he hurts somebody else or ends up getting seriously injured himself.

  • chicken thief

    “…and some seemed genuinely scared of the protesters who followed.”

    Thanks, whoever punched Richard Spencer!

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Not so tough when they’re by themselves

      • Cat Cafe Honors Paris Accord

        But of course they’re weak, fearful idiots with zero to value in themselves–that’s why they try to create value around something as pathetic as their skin color

      • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

        None of us are, really. That’s why have socialized police, fire, military, courts and other things to protect us. Health care belongs on that list of course.

  • alpacapunchbowl

    That I find the Nazis despicable goes without saying, I hope, but I really hate those antifa/black bloc little fuckers as well. I’ve never met one that wasn’t some trust fund baby slumming it for a while.

    • OrG

      I have. Some of them are pretty much homeless and figure they don’t have much to lose.

      • Marceline

        A lot of them are ex-cons too. Nothing like a stint in prison to make you want to burn the system to the ground.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        I wouldn’t wish homelessness or any kind of suffering on anyone. I wish they would realize that we ALL have plenty to lose, including them.

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    The cops were all like ” you stay on this side of the car”. “You sit on this side”. “And you! Stop hitting right now! And don’t throw nasty things!”

  • chicken thief

    I thought all the “thugs” lived in inner cities and were of a hue that, well, shall we say, never needs to be in the sun. Doesn’t Christian know the dog whistles of his own ilk?

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    Multiculturalism is white genocide? OK. So, all white people share the same culture?

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I have to laugh when I see white people bitching about immigrants coming to take “their” country, and jobs. Native Americans must really be having a good belly laugh over that one.

      • Lyly Sirivong

        And white europeans colonized dozens of countries. But some people will tell you that Africans and Asians were barbarians and needed to be civilized.

        • Ill-Advised

          To be sure, they had civilizations, but needed New and Improved civilization. It’s called progress, allegedly.

      • clubseal

        They probably would, if they weren’t starving, struggling with addiction epidemics or generally being looked down upon by just about every other cultural group.

  • Marceline

    One of the Indivisable groups I’m in actually reached out to some antifa groups and made an agreement. They stay away from our marches and protests and we help bail them out when they get busted. So far the arrangement seems to be working.

  • whitroth

    I just heard/read “antifa” for the first time, and that’s an *amazingly* *STUPID* bit of PR. For one, this isn’t an Intifada, which is what it seems like it’s trying to suggest. That’s the Palestinians’ effort, NOT OURS. This is straight-up antifascism… in the country that “lost” a couple big wars that it started (‘Nam and Iraq), and the fascists are claiming we could/should’ve won, if not for the lefties!!! (Gee, and just *where* have we heard that before in history?)

    They need to own up to being ANTI-FACISTS. The sign on Woody Guthrie’s didn’t read “This machine kills fa”, as though it was baby talk. And under *no* circumstances let the media name them, or define them (speaking as an original leftover hippie, and no, most of what you know about hippies isn’t true, either).

    On the other hand, I could agree with the title of the demonstration – we could use a lot more Trump-free speech….

    • nightmoth

      I heard it, or rather read it, for the first time yesterday, and it seems to include anarchists who use property damage to get their message (?) across. I don’t like the new word any more than I like alt-right and I want both words to die.

      • Courser_Resistance

        Same here. Don’t bust shit up, people have to live there.

    • ken_kukec

      Yeah, I wish they’d learn to hyphenate.

    • puredog

      Are anti-facists like anti-looksists?

      • Ill-Advised

        Wow, the Facebook debate heated up A LOT since the last time I decided not to join.

  • Suse

    Joey Gibson and his Patriot Prayer crowd got nothin’ on Joey Dee & The Starliters!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8wEORnZxdg

  • Relativicus

    I’ve been on this planet for most of my 50-odd odd years, and I live by many rules. Three of them are:

    Do not throw bloody tampons.

    Do not carry bloody tampons around with you unless they’re yours and there’s some reason you were unable to dispose of them properly.

    Since you’re a man, do not carry bloody tampons around with you, period. (Heh)

    • MizzMazz

      No, just mail them to Mike Pence.

      • Suse

        He will make you hold a funeral for your uterine lining.

        • Relativicus

          Here’s another ^1. I can’t stop laughing.

        • MizzMazz

          ugh, good point.

        • Ill-Advised

          And then get endometrial counseling with special grief therapy.

      • Relativicus

        Oh, right!

        4. Do not mail or otherwise handle bloody tampons unless it’s your job.

        And 5. Quit any job in which you’re handling bloody tampons.

        (Damn, that’s a lot of life rules about bloody tampons.)

        • MizzMazz

          Thankfully the menopause fired me from that job. ;)

          • Courser_Resistance

            Me too.

      • davidhollenshead

        Pence is the vile creature who wants families to be required to show proof to the government that they gave their still born child a christian burial.
        How could anyone be so cruel ???

        • MizzMazz

          Evil scumbag?

    • keenanjay

      Was trying to calculate the odd years of my alleged 60+. Gave up. Because those rules never needed elucidation until now. Thank you for your service.

    • ken_kukec

      Any rules from the other planets you’ve been on you’d care to share?

  • nightmoth

    Glad things went pretty well, with no cracked heads, but throwing bloody tampons at the police? Isn’t that more appropriate for disrupting an anti-abortion event?

    • ‘Covfefe is Magic’ Ron

      Nobody has respect for the traditional forms of protest any more. I blame the Internet.

    • clubseal

      Or maybe a protest about a leaky dam.

  • about a dozen bikers they had hired to provide event security.
    Cause that always goes over well

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Yes, I’ve heard Mick Jagger highly recommended them.

      • davidhollenshead

        Because they thought they would be just as nice as the San Francisco Hells Angles Club.

        • Swampgas_Man

          If not quite as friendly as Dykes On Bikes.

    • ken_kukec

      Two words: Meredith Hunter.

  • keenanjay

    As one of the “left,” I suppose, I’ve never understood the need to bash the police. Sure, there are times when its appropriate to criticize them for misconduct. But this well organized, crowd and violence control is exactly what they should be doing and appear to have pulled off.

    • clubseal

      From what I can tell, the “antifa” crowd isn’t exactly much more than a group of rowdy anarchists. I could be wrong though.

      • dorquemada

        You are correct.

      • redblack

        well, it follows, right? anarchists don’t believe in government, and attack its most visible and pedestrian element: police.

        i, for one, respect cops, and hope that if the hillbillies come roaring out of the woods in their dodge 2500’s armed to the teeth looking to overtake the bastions of liberalism and loot our vast treasures, the cops will protect our cities.

        then again, the hillbilly crusade is going to get caught in traffic when it gets here.

        so never mind, i guess.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Antifa as a collective has done righteous work exposing Nazi and crypto-Nazi organizers’ organizing.

        BUT…the is a big “but”…they are heavily represented by classical anarchism and other radical leftists. For instance, many Antifa Infoshops are adverse to calling the police, even in an emergency, because of “the violence inherent in the system”. Not even to report Nazis organizing bonafide crimes…though this can vary from shop to shop.

        My biggest criticism is they are insensible to optics: just because many think the unjust system should be torn down, doesn’t mean you can ignore the effect of reckless behaviour. That could–HELLO–damage their cause. Which is actually OUR cause. Media savvy is long over due.

        I’m quite vexed we’re back to “fuck the police” which is way off message and counter productive from “No Nazis!”

        TL;Dr: righteous cause marred by “block block” purity ponies.

    • miss_grundy

      I think Jon Stewart said it best (and I’m paraphrasing) but you can support the police and still criticize the bad ones.

    • redblack

      portland police do not put up with violence. they let a lot of silly shit go, but when it gets real, PDX knows better than to test the police bureau.

      they win every time.

  • tehbaddr

    The return of “Based stickman”! He seems nice!

    • What is the based thing? I am sure it is some internet stupid for something or other, but to be based really makes no sense with “stickman” after it.

      • tehbaddr

        I don’t know, but it makes for the easy meme joke: “All your based Stickman are belong to us!”

      • Canis Greyhame

        All I can tell is he’s a jackass in a baseball helmet, with a toy shield and a curtain rod (I guess because if he was carrying around an axe handle, the cops would confiscate it for being too obvious of a weapon).

        But I’m not about to go wading into the sewer where these things live to find out what they mean by “based”.

      • redblack

        the guy mentioned in dok’s story, john durano of los angeles, called himself “based spartan” in the oregon live/oregonian coverage of this shit show. he was dressed like some kind of cyber-centurion crusader, and was photographed flashing the white power/OK hand signal.

        go figure.

        whenever i see “based [whatever],” i think, “base.”

        as in “low.”

        • C4TWOMAN

          “flashing the white power/OK hand signal.”

          This just isn’t working for me as a White Power sekrit sign. I keep thinking of The Prisoner: “Be seeing you!”

          • redblack

            patrick mcgoohan libelz?

            and, no, i did not have to google the prisoner.

        • davidhollenshead

          If we ignore the “based” and focus on the “spartan” part, then he is into the first Fascist / Weird Male Homosexual / War Economy Nation State.
          But I doubt he is bright enough to read about the Spartans.

          • redblack

            hey. repressed is repressed.

            who are you to judge?

            /s

      • ZangoCrudmonger
    • davidhollenshead

      He has probably also committed hate crimes, before he discovered his dear Führer Trump.

  • Lyly Sirivong

    That reminds me of the anti-gay marriage protests in France. Traditionally, right-wingers are not big on protests because it’s a leftist thing to do.
    Then the government announced gay marriage would be legalized and these people took to the streets.
    The protests were massive, about 300,000 people. That said, they had the tendency to inflate the numbers (does that remind you of everyone ?) . They would claim there were millions of them. Which was improbable, if not impossible. In comparison, our counterprotests only managed to rally about 125,000 people.
    They didn’t realize they had to be careful when speaking to the journalists at first. So they organizers sent messages on social media saying “You mustn’t say gay people are an abomination or compare them to pedophiles or zoophiles in public.” No one was fooled, of course.
    In the end, the government told them “I hear you” then went on to legalize gay marriage.

  • clubseal

    I’d expect something a little clever if you’re going to throw a bloody tampon, like “String him up!” or “Hell no, we won’t flow!”
    Is it too much to ask for some period humor or what.

    • puredog

      We only do dick jokes here.

    • Ill-Advised

      ISWYDT!

    • phoenix00

      Punny ladyjokes aside, I want to know where they got their hands on so many used tampons!

  • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

    Is it just me, or does hiring bikers for protection remind you of the little geeky kid in grade school giving his lunch money to the local bully to keep from being pantsed and swirlied?

    • Erala Contratista

      Reminds me of Altamonte.

  • dorquemada

    The guy with the “NHL to Portland” sign is my personal hero.

  • Suthrnboy

    I can’t for the life of me figure out why white supremacists support a man who spends all morning, every morning covering up what he must consider to be a very embarrassing shade of white skin with orange pancake lady makeup.

    More like Oompah-Loompah supremacists, maybe….

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    The right has had a monopoly on political violence for a long time. I hate to say it, but I’m glad some on the left are getting in on it. Mainly because it’s really amusing to me to see how cowardly so many of the right really are.

    • davidhollenshead

      I have a problem with your post, as those cowardly right wing nuts will likely take their revenge, for being confronted by the Anti Fascists, on some vulnerable person who never did them any harm.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        This is sadly true.

      • redblack

        i largely agree. BUT!

        it is heartening to see that cities like portland have liberal majorities, and that neo-nazis can be shown the door unequivocally.

        we are a big tent, indeed, and we should be. they got the guns? we got the numbers.

        violence and threats, however, are inappropriate. i think everyone opposing fascism should have a voice, but violence isn’t the answer.

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        I understand and did not want to offend.

  • Internet Hitler

    It was reported that most of the protestors were paid to be there by billionaire George Soros. Protestors on both sides were hired by Soros because “I just like to pay folks to protest.”

    • redblack

      this weekend was my wedding anniversary, so soros paid my wife and me half to stay home and troll the innertoobz.

      hey, it beats working.

      • CafeenMan

        Someone delivers a bag of SorosBucks ™ to my doorstep every Saturday. All I have to do in return is hate America, love terrorists and try to make life miserable for good, wholesome, law-abiding American patriots.

        This week I got enough to buy a new Ferrari to add to my collection.

        Thanks George Soros!!

    • phoenix00

      So he paid BOTH SIDES? So they’re both THE SAME?

  • Notreelyhelping

    So total destruction, not so much. Still, here’s your new Portland Rebel Woman….
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3c85bb13785b2b3cc1d87954e012b92c2cccfe795eda52fa85af28b1f52f3ac1.jpg

  • Me not sure

    Segregationist Governor of Georgia, Lester Maddox once said “Georgia will never have better prisons until we get a better class of prisoner”. I would feel the same way about fucking Nazis, but the only way to make them better is to go all Patton’s 3rd Army on them.

  • tehbaddr

    Welcome to the Trump emboldened ‘Merika, where fascists and Nazis can openly gather to spew their vile rhetoric.

  • redblack

    just an aside to those non-northwesterners reading here, there’s a mnemonic for the pronuciation of willamette:

    “it’s wilLAMette, damn it!”

    yeah, i thought it looked french when i first came the the PNW, and put the emphasis on the last syllable. i was promptly ridiculed over the matter.

    don’t get me started on tigard or the dalles.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Couch Street is always the easiest way to spot a newcomer in my book. And welcome to Portland.

      • davidhollenshead

        I no longer feel very welcome here.

        • redblack

          i just saw your tale upthread. i’m very sorry you encountered that crap. sometimes america feels like a self-obsessed hell hole, no matter how affluent, progressive, or advanced we believe ourselves to be.

          i hope an act of kindness restores your faith in humanity right quick. we’re not all assholes, and more of us need to make that more obvious more often.

          • davidhollenshead

            I still have a “faith in humanity”, but I do understand how some of Portland’s Liberals are also quite racist. I never imagined how vile some of them are, until I moved here.

      • redblack

        been in the (206) for 22 years now.

        but thanks! seems like only yesterday…

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Good heavens, you’re *gasp* Seattle?

          • redblack

            thank you for gasping. we are quite breath-taking this time of year.

    • Zyxomma

      I learned that by watching Vera Farmiga in Bates Motel.

    • Chris

      We all have those kind of places. When you go to Georgia and ask for directions to Cairo, Ga don’t pronounce it Chi-ro, they will tell you that is in Egypt. It is pronounced Kay-ro.

  • davidhollenshead

    News from Portland:
    The city has always had a significant racist element.
    For example some of the classic “Portland Liberals” are much more likely to believe accusations about people who are not white, than they would of people who are white, while still claiming that they are not racists.
    Needless to day, Führer Trump with his Forth Reich, has followers here, energized by his “win”.
    For example last week it reared it’s ugly head via a 7-11 employee who had a cow over a friend of mine who is Lakota, waiting inside for the pizza he paid for to be heated.
    While white people were welcome in the store, we were clearly not.
    Since Führer Trump started his Hate Rallies, I’ve even found that I’m no longer sufficiently european for these people, and I’m about 3/4 european.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I’m really sorry to hear that. Portland has a pretty shameful racist history, and it ain’t great now. Many POC here have pointed out that reason the Max stabbings got so much coverage was because the victims were white. And that being verbally attacked on public transit is not unusual.

      • davidhollenshead

        Yes, Portland has a racist past & present, but it is like the typical quite racism of the Northern US, i.e. being perpetuated by people who can’t understand how racist they actually are.
        Fortunately I’m 6 ft. 185 lbs, and one & half bus seats wide, so I’m able to make difficult people walk away, simply by getting loud.
        That does make buying clothes and shoes that almost fit rather difficult however, unless I stick to work clothes & boots.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          At least work clothes and boots are damn near formal wear around here. And silly me, I didn’t say it earlier – welcome to Portland! Have you been here long?

          • davidhollenshead

            Thanks.
            Twelve years, unfortunately my wife took a major position on Pill Hill, and we can’t just leave.
            And we still haven’t found an attorney to represent us over our “David Hallberg” experience.
            This David Hallberg:
            https://www.google.com/webhp?sa=N&tab=lw#q=turner+v.+hallberg

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I’m not asking you to reveal your irl name, but Wtf is up with that guy?

          • davidhollenshead

            He and his wife made themselves millionaires by using the Portland BDS [building department] to steal houses from homeowners. When they finally fired Hallberg, they left the rest of the fraud ring continue their crimes.

            We kept our house, but BDS won’t reverse the deceptions made against us so we can live in it. Example decisions include “that my approved building plans are no longer valid” and “if you replace a single piece of wood, you are building a new staircase which has to meet code for new construction”.
            So basically, “unequal treatment under the law.”

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Well fuck. Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck. I’m so sorry to hear that.

          • davidhollenshead

            So are we, since we live in a one bedroom apartment. but own a house we can’t live in, or complete the renovation on. Then there is the problem of the Police saying it is free speech to tell neighbors that I “make and traffic METH”, I “break into houses and cars”, and that I “am a sex offender”.
            I’ve never been charged with a crime, and I do stand out here in Portland, given how white the people are.
            Free speech my ass, I now need bone grafts and implants if I want to chew on both sides of my mouth now.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Why would anybody do such an awful thing? The question is rhetorical.

            And although it’s not fair to put the burden on your shoulders, have you considered using your free speech rights to go meet these folks and introduce yourself? Actually, I would recommend that to anybody, but in this case, especially. Because you’ll make the slanderer look like the asshole s/he is.

          • davidhollenshead

            The person who caught me off guard while tying my boot at night didn’t stick around and introduce them self.
            The slander is mostly coming for a couple people, one of which was posing as BDS Inspector, but who actually was fired for malfeasance of office years before. I’ve been told if he shows his face in the neighborhood, that he is dead, because of the harm he has caused.
            I do realize that I need to be careful on who I talk to, as you never really know who to trust, but this will end, after we find an attorney willing to make the case public. However you don’t want to be public, before you have an attorney. So soon, I will deal with it, but for now, I’m not welcome at neighborhood meetings, and things like that.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Take care. And best of luck to you.

    • C4TWOMAN

      That 7-11 employee doesn’t sound like they’d like to remain employed….

      • davidhollenshead

        That is a difficult question, as the man in question needs to be “re-educated” rather than encouraged to hate the “other” over his lost job.
        Besides, I suspect his life already sucks, if he works at 7-11.

        • C4TWOMAN

          I know, its a dilemma: do we really want these people unemployed and desperate? But a complaint to corporate, with a strong suggestion of a reprimand, might be the right tack. We know if we do nothing, nothing will change.
          Of course if he was already civilly challenged: “Excuse mesir, that is a customer waiting for his purchase”
          …that might be good enough. Just knowing they can’t get away with it can start the thinking process.

          • davidhollenshead

            The catch was I had to let my friend deal with the idiot clerk.
            The correct thing is often letting the offended party handle it, partially when you know they will.

    • Stulexington

      Did your friend tell him to go back where he came from and call him a fucking immigrant?

  • chascates

    I texted my friend who retired to Portland about 7 years ago (and who lived there in the 1980s) about this weekend’s festivities and she replied “Portland ain’t Portlandia. Spread the word.”

    • davidhollenshead

      I know that first hand.

      • Chris

        But is it Grimm?

  • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

    Bikers for security? Seems I remember a Rolling Stones concert where that didn’t work out so well.

    • Zyxomma

      So do I.

  • Zyxomma

    Commendations to Doktor Zoom for “two hour hate.” I hope everyone got the Orwell reference. Kudos!

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