President Trump has inherited a vast domestic intelligence agency with extraordinary secret powers. A cache of documents offers a rare window into the FBI’s quiet expansion since 9/11.
White supremacists and other domestic extremists maintain an active presence in U.S. police departments and other law enforcement agencies. A striking reference to that conclusion, notable for its confidence and the policy prescriptions that accompany it, appears in a classified FBI Counterterrorism Policy Guide from April 2015, obtained by The Intercept. The guide, which details the process by which the FBI enters individuals on a terrorism watchlist, the Known or Suspected Terrorist File, notes that “domestic terrorism investigations focused on militia extremists, white supremacist extremists, and sovereign citizen extremists often have identified active links to law enforcement officers,” and explains in some detail how bureau policies have been crafted to take this infiltration into account.
Although these right-wing extremists have posed a growing threat for years, federal investigators have been reluctant to publicly address that threat or to point out the movement’s longstanding strategy of infiltrating the law enforcement community.
No centralized recruitment process or set of national standards exists for the 18,000 law enforcement agencies in the United States, many of which have deep historical connections to racist ideologies. As a result, state and local police as well as sheriff’s departments present ample opportunities for white supremacists and other right-wing extremists looking to expand their power base.
In a heavily redacted version of an October 2006 FBI internal intelligence assessment, the agency raised the alarm over white supremacist groups’ “historical” interest in “infiltrating law enforcement communities or recruiting law enforcement personnel.” The effort, the memo noted, “can lead to investigative breaches and can jeopardize the safety of law enforcement sources or personnel.” The memo also states that law enforcement had recently become aware of the term “ghost skins,” used among white supremacists to describe “those who avoid overt displays of their beliefs to blend into society and covertly advance white supremacist causes.” In at least one case, the FBI learned of a skinhead group encouraging ghost skins to seek employment with law enforcement agencies in order to warn crews of any investigations.
That report appeared after a series of scandals involving local police and sheriff’s departments. In Los Angeles, for example, a U.S. District Court judge found in 1991 that members of a local sheriff’s department had formed a neo-Nazi gang and habitually terrorized black and Latino residents. In Chicago, Jon Burge, a police detective and rumored KKK member, was fired, and eventually prosecuted in 2008, over charges relating to the torture of at least 120 black men during his decadeslong career. Burge notoriously referred to an electric shock device he used during interrogations as the “nigger box.” In Cleveland, officials found that a number of police officers had scrawled “racist or Nazi graffiti” throughout their department’s locker rooms. In Texas, two police officers were fired when it was discovered they were Klansmen. One of them said he had tried to boost the organization’s membership by giving an application to a fellow officer he thought shared his “white, Christian, heterosexual values.”
Although the FBI has not publicly addressed the issue of white supremacist infiltration of law enforcement since that 2006 report, in a 2015 speech, FBI Director James Comey made an unprecedented acknowledgment of the role historically played by law enforcement in communities of color: “All of us in law enforcement must be honest enough to acknowledge that much of our history is not pretty.” Comey and the agency have been less forthcoming about that history’s continuation into the present.
In 2009, shortly after the election of Barack Obama, a Department of Homeland Security intelligence study, written in coordination with the FBI, warned of the “resurgence” of right-wing extremism. “Right-wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African-American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda,” the report noted, singling out “disgruntled military veterans” as likely targets of recruitment. “Right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat.”
The report concluded that “lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent right-wing extremist ideology are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States.” Released just ahead of nationwide Tea Party protests, the report caused an uproar among conservatives, who were particularly angered by the suggestion that veterans might be implicated, and by the broad brush with which the report seemed to paint a range of right-wing groups.
Faced with mounting criticism, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano disavowed the document and apologized to veterans. The agency’s unit investigating right-wing extremism was largely dismantled and the report’s lead investigator was pushed out. “They stopped doing intel on that, and that was that,” Heidi Beirich, who leads the Southern Poverty Law Center’s tracking of extremist groups, told The Intercept. “The FBI in theory investigates right-wing terrorism and right-wing extremism, but they have limited resources. The loss of that unit was a loss for a lot of people who did this kind of work.”
“Federal law enforcement agencies in general — the FBI, the Marshals, the ATF — are aware that extremists have infiltrated state and local law enforcement agencies and that there are people in law enforcement agencies that may be sympathetic to these groups,” said Daryl Johnson, who was the lead researcher on the DHS report. Johnson, who now runs DT Analytics, a consulting firm that analyzes domestic extremism, says the problem has since gotten “a lot more troublesome.”
Johnson singled out the Oath Keepers and the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association for their anti-government attitudes and efforts to recruit active as well as retired law enforcement officers. “That’s the biggest issue and it’s greater now than it’s ever been, in my opinion.” Johnson added that Homeland Security has given up tracking right-wing domestic extremists. “It’s only the FBI now,” he said, adding that local police departments don’t seem to be doing anything to address the problem. “There’s not even any training now to make state and local police aware of these groups and how they could infiltrate their ranks.”
A spokesperson for DHS declined to comment on the 2009 report or on the agency’s specific concerns about white supremacist and right-wing groups.
In 2014, the Department of Justice re-established its Domestic Terrorism Task Force, a unit that was created following the Oklahoma City bombing. But for the most part, the government’s efforts to confront domestic terrorism threats over the last decade have focused on homegrown extremists radicalized by foreign groups. Last year, a group of progressive members of Congress called on President Obama and DHS to update the controversial 2009 report. “The United States allocates significant resources towards combating Islamic violent extremism while failing to devote adequate resources to right-wing extremism,” they wrote. “This lack of political will comes at a heavy price.”
Critics fear that the backlash following the 2009 DHS report hindered further action against the growing white supremacist threat, and that it was largely ignored because the issue was so politically controversial. “I believe that because that report was so denounced by conservatives, it sort of closed the door on whatever the FBI may have been considering doing with respect to combating infiltration of law enforcement by white supremacists,” said Samuel Jones, a professor of law at the John Marshall Law School in Chicago who has written about white power ideology in law enforcement. “Because after the 2006 FBI report, we simply cannot find anything by local law enforcement or the federal government that addresses this issue.”
Pete Simi, a sociologist at Chapman University who spent decades studying the proliferation of white supremacists in the U.S. military, agreed. “The report underscores the problem of even discussing this issue. It underscores how difficult this issue is to get any traction on, because a lot of people don’t want to discuss this, let alone actually do something about it.” Simi said that the extremist strategy to infiltrate the military and law enforcement has existed “for decades.” In a study he conducted of individuals indicted for far-right terrorism-related activities, he found that at least 31 percent had military experience.
After a series of investigations uncovered substantial numbers of extremists in the military, the Department of Defense moved to impose stricter screenings, including monitoring recruits’ tattoos for white supremacist symbols and discharging those found to espouse racist views.
“The military has completely reformed its process on this front,” said the SPLC’s Beirich, who lobbied the DOD to adopt those reforms. “I don’t know why it wouldn’t be the same for police officers; we can’t have people with guns having crazy ideas or ideas that threaten certain populations.”
Reforming police, as it turns out, is a lot harder than reforming the military, because of the decentralized way in which the thousands of police departments across the country operate, the historical affinity of certain police departments with the same racial ideologies espoused by extremists, and an even broader reluctance to do much about it.
“If you look at the history of law enforcement in the United States, it is a history of white supremacy, to put it bluntly,” said Simi, citing the origin of U.S. policing in the slave patrols of the 18th and 19th centuries. “More recently, just going back 50 years, law enforcement, particularly in the South, was filled with Klan members.”
Norm Stamper, a former chief of the Seattle Police Department and vocal advocate for police reform, told The Intercept that white supremacy was not simply a matter of history. “There are police agencies throughout the South and beyond that come from that tradition,” he said. “To think that that kind of thinking has dissolved somehow is myopic at best.”
Stamper said he had fired officers who expressed racist views, but added, “It’s not likely to happen in most police departments, because many of those departments come from a tradition of saying the officer is entitled to his or her opinions.” Whether the First Amendment protects an officer’s right to express racist, white supremacist views — or even to associate with organizations that endorse those views — is something that remains a subject of debate, Stamper said. “You can fire someone. Whether the termination will stand up under review is the real question.”
“Local, state, federal agencies, all to some extent have their hands tied, because it’s not necessarily against the law to be a member of a domestic hate group” said Simi, noting the military as the one exception because of its unique legal status. For instance, the U.S. government considers the KKK a hate group — but membership in the group is not illegal. That’s the case for all domestic hate or extremist groups, though authorities can choose to target their members under conspiracy statutes, Simi said.
Most police departments don’t screen prospective officers for hate group affiliation. The SPLC has reported that the number of these groups peaked at more than 1,000 in 2011, from less than half that in the late 1990s, though experts like Simi note that many of these groups “come and go” and membership between them is often fluid.
Although officers have been fired for expressing hateful views — sometimes to be re-hired by other departments, as happens regularly with officers accused of misconduct — some officers have also challenged those dismissals in court. Robert Henderson, an 18-year veteran of the Nebraska State Patrol, was fired when his membership in the Klan was discovered. He sued on First Amendment grounds and appealed all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, which declined to hear his case. Last year, 14 officers in the San Francisco Police Department were caught exchanging racist and homophobic texts that included several references to “white power” and messages such as “all niggers must fucking hang.” Most of those officers remain on the force after an attempt to fire several of them was blocked by a judge, who said the statute of limitation had expired.
“All agencies, if they want to, can curtail this problem — the problem is that many do not,” said Jones, who has been tracking similar incidents following the 2006 FBI report and believes many more get buried behind the code of silence that often dominates police departments. “When somebody holds a belief that indicates that they do not see all Americans are worthy of equal protection under the law, it compromises their ability to be a police officer.”
According to the Counterterrorism Policy Guide, the FBI has the option to mark a watchlisted police officer as a “silent hit,” thus preventing queries to the National Crime Information Center, a clearinghouse for crime data accessible to law enforcement agencies nationwide, from returning a record that identifies the officer as having been flagged as a known or suspected terrorist. The document states that a “specific, narrowly defined, and legitimate operational justification” must be given in order to mark a Known or Suspected Terrorist (KST) entry as a silent hit. The suspect’s membership or affiliation with a law enforcement or military agency with access to the NCIC database is one of the specific justifications listed, implying that extremist infiltration is enough of a concern that the FBI has built-in protocols to prevent domestic terrorism investigations from being obstructed by members of law enforcement.
The FBI document also notes that in order to protect the safety of local law enforcement, suspects who are “violent or are known to be armed and dangerous” may not be marked as silent hits. It’s unclear how that standard applies to armed law enforcement personnel, especially since the FBI document singles out not only white supremacist groups for their ties to law enforcement, but also militia extremists and sovereign citizen extremists. While there is plenty of overlap between them, the last group, in particular, is characterized by deep anti-government ideology and the belief that “even though they physically reside in this country, they are separate or ‘sovereign’ from the United States,” the FBI notes on its website. “As a result, they believe they don’t have to answer to any government authority, including courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments, or law enforcement.”
In a 2011 article, the FBI’s counterterrorism analysis section called sovereign citizens “a growing domestic threat to law enforcement.” In one 2010 incident, two Arkansas police officers were killed when 16-year-old sovereign citizen Joseph Kane fired on them with an AK-47 assault rifle after he and his father were pulled over for a routine stop.
A 2014 survey found that sovereign citizen extremists were perceived by law enforcement agencies as a top threat, ahead of foreign-inspired extremists. And a 2015 DHS intelligence assessment, written in coordination with the FBI, warned about the continuing threat sovereign citizen extremists pose to police officers.
The counterterrorism guide does not specify the conditions under which the FBI will notify local law enforcement agencies whose members may be under surveillance as silent hits. Michael German, a former FBI agent who specialized in domestic terrorism investigations, told The Intercept that such alerts are likely handled on a “case-by-case basis.” “Typically, if someone in the police department is suspect, unless it’s an extreme case of leadership, professional courtesy requires some sort of notification,” he said.
The FBI did not respond to a detailed series of questions sent by The Intercept about its knowledge of extremists’ presence in law enforcement agencies, but a spokesperson for the agency did comment on the practice of placing silent hits on law enforcement officers. “While a silent hit would keep a subject who is a law enforcement employee from knowing they are under scrutiny, it would be standard practice to let someone at the agency know that one of their officers was under investigation,” the spokesperson said.
Although the FBI’s counterterrorism guide prohibits watchlisting individuals in the Known or Suspected Terrorist File “based solely on activities protected by the First Amendment,” the document does not elaborate on what would constitute such activity. Nor does it state what specific actions on the part of officers would be serious enough to warrant inclusion in the watchlist. The document refers to the Terrorist Screening Center’s March 2013 Watchlisting Guidance, previously published by The Intercept, for additional details regarding the watchlisting standard. The FBI did not answer questions about what activities would warrant entry into the list.
Civil rights groups have denounced the Known or Suspected Terrorist database’s lack of transparency and the vague formulation of its standards. In a detailed analysis of the KST watchlist based on documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, the ACLU observed that the goal of the list “is not law enforcement, but the surveillance and tracking of individuals for indefinite periods.” The April 2016 report characterized the watchlist as “essentially a black box — an opaque and expanding accumulation of names.”
A disproportionate number of Muslims have been included on the watchlist, and because the database is accessible to federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies nationwide, the ACLU said, they are exposed to “unwarranted scrutiny or investigation by police.” That level of scrutiny has hardly been applied to white supremacists, however, even though the country’s first anti-terrorism laws, in the 1870s, were aimed at protecting black citizens from groups like the KKK, and despite the ongoing threat posed by these extremists.
“This is a fundamental problem in this country: We simply do not take this flexible, and forgiving, and exceptionally understanding approach for combating any other form of terrorism,” said Jones. “Anybody who’s on social media advocating support for ISIS can be criminally charged with very little effort.”
“For some reason, we have stepped away from the threat of domestic terrorism and right-wing extremism,” Jones continued. “The only way we can reconcile this kind of behavior is if we accept the possibility that the ideology that permeates white nationalists and white supremacists is something that many in our federal and law enforcement communities understand and may be in sympathy with.”
That sympathy might just be reflected by the election of a president who was endorsed and celebrated by the KKK, and who has been reluctant to disassociate himself from individuals espousing white supremacist views.
“This election, for white supremacists, was a signal that ‘We’re on the right track,’” said Simi. “I have never seen anything like it among white supremacists, where they express this feeling of triumph and jubilee. They are just elated about the idea that they feel like they have somebody in the White House who gets it.”
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I reject the term White Supremacist. It’s White Racist. There is no supremacy to be acknowledged in such a stupid worldview.
How did I miss this important story? Great reporting, Cora Currier.
The Right protects its own.
It’s ironic how James Inhofe can call for animal rights activists to be declared eco-terrorists, but these anti-establishment, anti-government, racist bastards can get training and guns and let loose a whole different level of hell on innocent people to whom they feel superior.
The laws are not likely to change under this administration, but maybe we can help push these stories to the forefront.
Christalmighty.
My apologies to Alice Speri. Great job to you as well.
Let’s indulge. The USA has roughly 5- 8k KKK members – let’s round up of the sake of being completely fair so 10k KKK members. There are 800k sworn officers. If every single member of the KKK was a police officer, this would still only make up 1% of the entire police population.
Would eat a handful of skittles if 1% were poisoned?
1% is still 1 for every 100. That’s a lot. Especially considering that the 99 will come to the defense of the one cop almost every time there is an altercation, along with the prosecutor. These are protections that are attractive for someone who would like to wreck havoc on a minority population.
Perhaps the videos of Black Lives Matter groups chanting, “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want em? Now!” has something to do with the supposed ‘sympathy’ police feel for white supremacist groups….
This investigation was under the Bush administration, way before that video of the BLM protesters chanting.
Maybe you should be asking what would cause people to be so angry as to chant in favor of dead cops.
Perhaps BLM ( a relatively new group that has sprung up) wouldn’t be chanting death to cops if law enforcement would quit hiring white supremacists who terrorize them
Perhaps if law enforcement quit hiring white supremacists who terrorize their communities there wouldn’t be BLM shouting “death to cops”. BLM is a new movement, perhaps they were newly created for a reason
I guess those white supremacists will soon be marching, rioting, burning and pillaging throughout the land. Well, I am prepared for this eventuality and will resist to the last. Just waiting for it…and waiting for it…
Unfortunately, I noticed what appears to be a Nazi salute in the arrest of Red Fawn video.
At about 2:03 (2 minutes 3 seconds) into the Boku Napoli video:
Red Fawn Illegal Arrest
Boku Napoli video
Published on Nov 17, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYKFRMpmm1E
That’s idiotic.
https://www.dhs.gov/fusion-center-locations-and-contact-information
“Primary Fusion Centers: A primary fusion center typically provides information sharing and analysis for an entire state. These centers are the highest priority for the allocation of available federal resources, including the deployment of personnel and connectivity with federal data systems.
Recognized Fusion Centers: A recognized fusion center typically provides information sharing and analysis for a major urban area. As the Federal Government respects the authority of state governments to designate fusion centers, any designated fusion center not designated as a primary fusion center is referred to as a recognized fusion center.”
Fusion Centers? We know they are collecting plenty of data on all. We can’t forget the fusion centers.
Is “redneck-dom” and “n-word-dom” really they same: it’s slow southern white boy or black boy culture.
Look back a old b/w pics of southern whites in baggy clothing, etc. So the conclusion is they really just hate themselves. And was that the point of Dave Chapelle’s skits? White supremacists hate themselves.
Really nothing to do w/ your article; just wanted to name drop Dave Chapelle. Love him.
Really, the skin heads on the cops didn’t give it away to you years ago….
Really, the huge number of whites only police agencies in mixed race districts didn’t give it away either…
Really, the authoritarianism of referring to citizens as civilians, with police being civilian agencies, not military agencies didn’t give it away either….
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There is no news to anyone with a brain here.
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
CSPOA’s is a pet project of mine…following them for years now. Yes, they are subversive and we have over 400 in most States. Along with that, they have arsenals of MRAP’s in the Millions$$. What could be wrong w/that? I have lists of their members and what they have hoping that they would soon Clean House of them. Let’s get ‘er done.
I have been following CSPOA’s for a few years now. There are over 400 in the States…Not only associated w/Oath Keepers…these cops have MILLIONS$$ in MRAP’s. What could possibly be wrong with giving MRAP’s to subversive cops? Many times, I note when I see them in the news and it’s never good news. They hide their membership now; but, I have the lists for a couple years worth. Can we please CLEAN HOUSE of these and get those military weapons out of their hands?
I have been following CSPOA’s for a long time. I have their list of members and keep track when they are publicized. They have GROWN in numbers and now hide their members lists. MRAP’s assigned to these subversive police is in the MILLIONS of dollars and we think that is safe for citizens? The Gov’t has done nothing to stop them; but, let them thrive and grow.
Excellent article. Thank you for your work!
I was listening until you cited the Southern Poverty Law Center. There’s racism, then there’s the SPLC digging between the cushions for anything that will bring in donations. We all know the difference, stop citing them.
Tyler: Did you NOT notice how after the big “conservative” bruhaha against the 2009 Dept. of Homeland Security’s report on white supremacist/militia/right-wing extremist groups who are infiltrating law enforcement that ALL INVESTIGATIONS STOPPED (except for the FBI–who are still MOSTLY focused on “foreign threats” or on “homegrown” Muslims)? So, WHO is gong to do the investigating? Local police sure don’t! So, SPLC is doing. There aer actually issues that are such “hot potatoes” that NO ONE wants to deal with them–so, small struggling groups do. (Police brutality is another example of such an issue–and the big foundations do NOT give grants for that work either.) I’d ask you to reconsider your dismissal of SPLC. Either you actually WANT to knnow about this iss or you;re looking for any excuse to NOT know about it.
I was listening until you cited Southern Poverty Law Center. There’s racism, then there’s SPLC digging between the cushions for anything that will bring in donations. We all know the difference, stop citing them.
Rage Against the Machine made the same point back in 1991…
The thing to always beep in mind about FBI’s post-9/11 shrunken “law enforcement” aspect is that it considers protecting public *faith* in our broken, corrupt, hyper-incarcerating and profitable criminal justice system a primary goal. This might mean covering up corruption rather than exposing it if exposure would shake public trust in a big business that has come under fire in recent years for, for example, bad science passing for evidence in several areas connected to forensics. This came up in an interesting portion of Making a Murderer.
So while, yes, it is alarming and disturbing that modern KKKers are given a license to shoot by the State, what is missing is how these people are then used by politicians as tools of protecting and furthering the special business interests that said politicIans are deeply involved with and that against the public interest as well. In short, the police protect multinationals who profit from war, over-prescribing, financial shenanigans, etc., and that is more due to leadership than rank-and-file racists inside LE organizations.
But you won’t hear that from FBI because FBI protects these corrupt, job-killing, poverty-dealing, planet-destroying special interests as well.
And pig apologists wonder why no one sane trusts the militarized, bigoted police force; they’ve lost all credibility and are only backed by white supremacists and far right political hacks who think their word has any meaning. It doesn’t.
The best way to centralize all those law enforcement agencies is to require and then issue every officer a license to practice law enforcement, and base it on five points of violations. Below is a model of such a reform bill I made in the form of a petition. Before Obama left officer I was hoping he would make this his last executive order but he ignored it. Please check it out thoroughly on the link below and sign it and feel free to add any ideas. If the link doesn’t work then copy and paste on your browser or google search.
https://www.change.org/p/hr-112214-formerly-eo-112214-tamir-rice-national-anti-racial-profiling-law
This is still a work in progress. Since obviously Trump won’t go along with this I am in the process of gathering congressional, senate and other officials who will be named in this proposal to make this happen.
Just a point of observation- I’m an older citizen, former school teacher, not particularly a conspiracy theorist living in a small town in a rural county in the South. A few summers ago I was chosen to serve on my local grand jury. One thing that struck me was how much policemen had changed physically. The young cops were all heavily muscled, body-builder types who always wore their bulletproof vests when they came to give evidence. Compared to the patrolmen I grew up seeing, these guys were straight out of Central Casting for a Rambo remake. When I read that police in a neighboring county were being investigated for steroid trafficking I was not surprised. I’m not trying to say that our local cops are white supremacists, but it struck me that they were acting out a personal narrative of perceived superiority and control in much the same way that white supremacist groups do. It’s not hard to see where there might be some overlap.
Good point. I also see this where I live. Law enforcement in my area is a sheriff’s department. The sheriffs who have come to my house two different times all did, indeed, look like they came out of central casting for a Rambo movie. What was even more troubling: these young men didn’t even seem very intelligent. In one case, they needed to take a piece of evidence out of my house. They touched it without gloves and didn’t even have an evidence bag. I had to insist they put it in a plastic zipper bag I provided otherwise one of them was just going to put it in his shirt pocket with no identification on it.
They’re also verrrry fond of their mirrored sunglasses, which are inimical to building interpersonal trust.
Beat cops should be prohibited from wearing then, and yeah, they should be tested for steroids.
i suspect steroid use is common among cops; i’m not vouching for this source but it’s not the only one
http://www.menshealth.com/health/scandals-cops-and-steroids
combining racial prejudice with guns and steroids and a lack of legal accountability.
Steroids and HGH are fairly widespread in police and firefighter communities. I knew this doctor professionally, and he had hundreds of cops and firefighters in his practice. He even went to the NJ police and firefighter conventions to advertise himself.
Many of his clients were cited for multiple accounts of police brutality- essentially roid rages. It’s a problem.
https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/12/hundreds_of_nj_police_firefigh.html
This is a joke.
A bad joke.
Congratulations, Intercept. You’ve joined Breitbart, The Huffington Post and most of the other media in showing that when it comes to your Sacred Cows – in this case Radical branches of Islam, Black Lives Matter, The Southern Poverty Law Center (indeed, the largely ‘social justice’ and $ converged and corrupt ‘civil rights’ movement in general) -their word is gospel and not to be questioned, nor are their motives. Until you learn that racism doesn’t just come from the right (or whites) that terrorism isn’t always a homegrown threat, and you apply the same standards for what causes you concern – if people were trying to use such a paucity of evidence or attacks on American soil for the preposition that Islam was a threat you’d have a hissy fit, but when its someone conservative or whose skin color is WHITE then suddenly you can’t virtue signal enough ) you will start to learn that fewer and fewer will take you seriously. I came here for your Wikileaks reporting and this current FBI report, which should concern all Americans (as should whatever part of the CIA was out-of-control), but I guess I see the limitations of your actual concern for truth and justice.
Thanks for sharing. What, specifically, is in this article that you think is wrong?
Maybe it’s because police recruiting has brought in more minorities and non whites than ever in history while things like dash cams and incentives for whistle blowing and internal controls have made public police officers actions as well as scrutiny by peers and public. I call BS on your article and advise you do some research.
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I call bullshit on all of the bullshit you provided as purported evidence supporting your position.
In making your claim, site one (or two, the commenting software doesn’t like more than one link per comment) and use your own words to back up the claim.
Using such a long list of (probably) someone else’s compiled citations doesn’t bolster you argument above, it weakens it, because only me and one other commenter here will even bother to think about reading any part of it, much less commenting about it.
h/t Bill Owen ;-)
Methinks the lady doth protest too much!
Why are these types always names Clarence?
What’s the purpose of the Murrah Federal Building? McVeigh’s bombing had nothing to do with white supremacy. It was a direct response to the FBI murdering those folks at Waco.
Unless I am forgetting some part or missed something the only reference to the Murrah Federal Building and the OKC bombing was when saying “In 2014, the Department of Justice re-established its Domestic Terrorism Task Force, a unit that was created following the Oklahoma City bombing.” so what made you believe the article even insinuated or implied that it was about white supremacy?
It is really a completely irrelevant fact that was presented in that article. Granted that this article serves to sensationalize an issue of a white supremacist movement that supposedly permeates through a large segment of police departments and military, the irrelevant addition of the OKC bombing (which is well known to be perpetrated by a white man) may be seen to serve into the popular sentiment that “whites” are inherently evil. It is important to know that there are people within our country who wish to promote racial superiority and this article does a good job, if maybe a little one sided, of doing that. Some of the people who feel passionate about the info provided in this article, also maintain that feeling that white people are inherently evil. So, it’s easy to see that an article that insinuates a white supremacist movement on a large scale is rampant within police and military groups, AND unwarrantedly highlights a massive domestic terror attack committed by a white man, may serve to spread a sentiment of anger toward what our society considers, white people.
Yea, one can argue that what I just said is a manifestation of white guilt and insecurity, but I truly feel the integration of the OKC bombing was a tactic of association, used in order to drive in home an alterior message to the reader. I see this article as nothing more but propaganda that serves to pit two groups of people against each other, with the hopes of creating more and more room for advancement of ones political motives and gain.
There wouldn’t be any white guilt if white people just stopped being racist pigs.
The photo illustration might be what he’s referring to.
The folks at Waco who refused to follow lawful orders from LEOs? The folks who pulled guns on LEOs? The folks who shot and KILLED LEOs?
Those folks?
Does anyone else besides me find it funny that so many white people say that minorities, especially black ones, should follow an increasingly long set of rules in an encounter with police but insist that a bunch of religious white people who broke every single one of those rules are just innocent victims?
there were allegations that he was connected to white supremacist groups. don’t know how much substance they had.
https://culteducation.com/group/1047-timothy-mcveigh/13321-fbi-evidence-linked-mcveigh-to-white-supremacists.html
This is hardly new…
‘Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses’ – Rage Against The Machine
Fantastic article. Truly a conversation that needs to be happening.
I always thought the local pigs were fcking Nazis!
Can’t help but to think this write-up has SOME intention spread unfounded paranoia in this year of 2017, similar to the way right wingers look to over-hype the threat of domestic terrorism caused by individuals of the Muslim faith. It is good writing and documentation nonetheless.
Go back to bed.
I’ll take it that you disagree with my statement. Care to share an argument on why I would be wrong in having the thought that I expressed in my original comment?
Care to elaborate on that statement? I take it you disagree with my sentiment. For the sake of further open dialogue, I would like to hear your argument.
Nothing about what is written is “unfounded” though. Do you know what that word means? Evidence is presented to you. Click on the links to then read the evidence from which the author has quoted.
I’d like to echo others in thanking you so much for your continued fantastic journalism.
The Intercept gives me hope for journalism in the USA. Thank you for providing a great public service.
I would be more worried about FBI infiltration of supremacists (quite well documented already) and incitement of those groups.
Excellent point! In my country, one of our intelligence officers was assigned to locate and infiltrate a white supremacist group. He could not find one and so started one on his own, trolling for members, and leading the group.
Interesting that there are no hiring mandated guidelines to weed out white supremacists for the 18,000 police agencies throughout the United States. Id like to know more about that!
Yeah, a few departments have sued to be able to keep from hiring people who score too high on their intelligence tests but freak out about potentially limiting Nazis, skinheads and other white supremacists.
THIS is very true. Recall a congressional investigation, CSPAN and even time magazine cover and total media proliferation when it was proven that the US government started, funded, and ran MOST Klan and other groups. Similar of course how the Communist Party long ago and even now established many organizations, groups you would never suspect until you do your reseach. They runs things with “special interests” and various religious and mafia participation.
The other problem is that it is also proven in courts, and requested, demanded agencies documents that the FBI and it’s PATCON teams and others ARE the ones who pulled off major “events” and then lied to the world about who did it for what reasons. They had infiltrated, or created, run, operated and directed groups NOT involved but the infiltration got them enough information on people to then use in the Federal false narrative. The Lies. They are doing so right NOW! They are right now inciting, and funding a few mentally ill and violent people to prop them up in the “racist” movement to give them credibility to act as conduits for intel, and to lure others in the Patriot movement into working with those others. They are staging and setting up the info, connections for another major event. This is credible intel from inside all these networks, and investigators.
And yes, there are very low IQ idiots in both States Police Departments, and County Sheriffs departments that are criminals. It has been proven in court records and their own policies they only hire those of low scores, and unhealthy personality profiles.
It seems from major busts, and some prior arrests, prosecutions, and investigations what you find is the local corrupt governments foster this so they are never gone against. Look up many generally considered rural or mountain States and you will find those law enforcement have been tied to child rape and molestation, prostitution, drug rings, embezzlement and public services fraud. THEY are the criminals. When good citizens come forward they all conspire to go after them, as well as assist and support and not arrest the violent criminals, and those connected to sexism, racism, violence, and instead cover up their crimes. The result is victims, citizens, witnesses are harmed, abused, even false arrests, and terrorized by all these different official factions who have much to hide. This is very documented fully evidenced fact, the FBI fully sees this and does nothing. Why? Good people have died, had their lives ruined, families threatened, lost jobs, had to move, and some commit suicide, or been suicided as they don’t protect and support those bold citizens willing to try to fix this, and whom the State and Gov owes under law protection but never provide it and leave them out to try and vulnerable. Why?
A very good point.
Reminds of an excellent book I read called “Our Enemies in Blue: police and power in America”
very good and well documented. I wish I could see the same style in Italian media, cara Alice :D
Reminds of an excellent book I read called “Our Enemies in Blue: police and power in America” https://www.akpress.org/our-enemies-in-blue.html
Rampant in my area.
https://henryreport.com/blog/2017/01/31/leaked-fbi-document-confirms-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-police-department/
Thank you to everyone involved in this article.
Rampant in my community.
https://henryreport.com/blog/2017/01/31/leaked-fbi-document-confirms-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-police-department/
Excellent article. One rather insignificant correction to be made: Professor Jones teaches at The John Marshall Law School, which is in Chicago. Not the “John Marshall School of Law”, which is a different institution elsewhere.
This should be front page news, on 60 Minutes etc. A serious and longstanding problem, it explains why black lives are not respected by some police.
Is the FBI investigating or is it vetting. I can never tell the difference. /s/
Thank you Intercept and Alice Speri. I have sent this link to two family members in law enforcement who have some hostility to Black Lives Matter and purport to believe there is virtually no racism in their ranks.
The adult daughter of one of these, at Xmas dinner, announced : “All lives matter!” and her boyfriend added “black behavior matters.” I launched into a history of racism in law enforcement, with a focus on our Irish forebears who were as racist as they were likely to go into the policing profession. That was met with petulance and we all decided to end discussion of political matters.
My family members believe they are good people. I’ve just put it to them that they are now called upon to decide whether they are white tribalists and/or have primary allegiance to the blue tribe, or whether they are first and foremost citizens.
I applaud your dedication to bringing about a better world. Silence around those we know harbor supremacist views is tacit support. It is uncomfortable to challenge loved ones, but it is absolutely necessary.
If your intention was to claim that the Irish are racist, I hope you are speaking of your specific forebears and not those of the rest of us with Irish forebears. Not sure if it is racist to call a whole people racist? Perhaps when two adults at a dinner table state views that do represent a real tension in society itself, not just law enforcement, an attempt to draw out the premises and attitudes behind those views would be more helpful and fruitful.
Beverly, you just stated yesterday that Canada has to keep French Canadians because they are the most interesting in the country. You are quite chauvinistic about that French Canadian culture. You lack all moral authority to lecture anyone on racism.
But yes, Irish-Americans have a long history of being very racist against black people. That’s my culture and I know it well. My parents, aunt and uncle, racist to their core. Most of my cousins on one side as well. Our churches, certainly in my parents’ generation, and mine when I was young. (Irish leaders back in Ireland once spoke out in horror at how their brethren were talking over here about blacks.)
That Irish-Americans have been racist in great numbers is beyond reasonable dispute.
@Jared: It is hard. At Thanksgiving, the Black Lives Matter accounts I follow on Twitter were asking white allies if they planned to remain silent at the family celebration, where the election was certain to come up. I felt that challenge keenly.
At Xmas I met the challenge. And then spent much of today in lengthy, respectful but pointed, exchanges with a cop relative.
Mona, what is chauvinistic about saying the Quèbec culture is interesting? Any culture that is different from what one is used to is interesting. That is one reason people travel. Quèbec has a unique culture and French Canadians have rights in Canada guaranteed by the British North America Act.
The fact that you have seized on what was an off-the-cuff remark and decided to use it to flare at me and throw everything I say on your personal moral trash heap would suggest that you could not find anything else in my remarks to flare at, but felt you needed to.
My culture is Irish-Canadian, my Irish family being split into two parts, with the maternal side from Cork and Catholic and the paternal side Belfast and Protestant. I also knew my family and background well and while I could agree that they were definitely prejudiced against each other, the only Blacks who came up occasionally were the mysterious “Black Irish”. There is some historical debate about whether the term “Black Irish” referred to the Viking invaders, or to the descendants from the Spanish Armada, but it is quite likely that is was a term applied to various types of people, possibly in order to distinguish them from the Celts, or vice versa. Possibly you were confused about the reference when people used the term “Black Irish”? As for people from Africa, there were small numbers of slaves from other countries who made their way to Ireland, and others more recently. (Slavery in Ireland itself was quite rare.) There is racism in every country, but honestly, I have never received the impression that any of the Irish people I knew were “racist to the core.”
By the way you have indicated at one point that you were speaking of your Irish forebears and at another that you were speaking of Irish-Americans. Perhaps we are talking at cross purposes because your original statement would indicate that by “forebears” you meant Irish people in Ireland, whereas your later statement refers only “Irish-Americans” about whom I know very little.
No, I absolutely did not mean people in Ireland. Irish Catholics came to the U.S. fleeing (in large measure) British oppression and famine, and were grossly discriminated against by the dominant WASP culture. Unfortunately, part of the coping mechanism for many was to, in turn, manifest extreme hatred of black people.
Nothing, and had that been what you wrote that would have passed unremarked upon. But what you actually wrote was this: “TROC (The Rest of Canada) has a very tense relationship at times with Quèbec , but cannot lose them because they are frankly the most interesting people in the country.”
Really? French Canadians cannot be lost because they are the most supremely fascinating of all Canadians? That certainly struck me as a pretty peculiar thing to post. Either their special protections are justified on some justice grounds, or they are not (and I know to little to hold a firm opinion either way). How subjectively interesting anyone finds them to be should have nothing to do with it.
Okay, you are speaking of your American-Irish family from Grandparents down. Got that.
Interesting: engaging or exciting, intriguing, absorbing, riveting, holding the attention or curiosity. Necessary to prevent dying of boredom. Necessary for many other reasons.
Of course their rights are justified, not only constitutionally, but in my opinion morally and historically. I said that yesterday and again today. They almost left Confederation once and may well do so at any time. I hope they stay, but my wishes would not cut any ice with them.
Peculiar? Is that better than an” inanity” which is what you called it yesterday. It is certainly better than chauvinistic as you called it today. I rather like peculiar and sometimes I even drink Old Peculier.
Again, it is, at best, peculiar to hold that an ethnic cohort can’t be lost because it is purportedly the MOST interesting among all.
As I said, I know too little about the special protections afforded French Canadians to form a firm and final opinion. But based on my interactions with left-wing Canadians, as well as some fiction I’v e read by a writer who works to get her history and facts right, I am initially put off by the language laws.
I assume you mean the language laws in Quèbec? You are certainly not alone in your opinion, but the situation is a little tricky. Quebecois believe that language is the bedrock of any culture and want to maintain theirs in what they perceive as a sea of Anglophones. Immigrants and Anglophone Quebecers who might wish to speak English or use Ethnic signs on their businesses are seen as an obstacle to Quèbecois goal of being “maîtres chez nous” (masters of our own house.)
“The 1995 Quebec referendum was the second referendum to ask voters in the Canadian province of Quebec whether Quebec should proclaim national sovereignty and become an independent country, with the condition precedent of offering a political and economic agreement to Canada.” (wiki) The hoped-for result by the Parti-Québécois (a separatist party that at the time had formed the provincial government in Quèbec) was Sovereignty Association after separation. “The “No” option carried by 54,288 votes (50.58%)” (wiki). In the opinion of some inside Quèbec and in TROC, since the referendum Quèbec has acted as if it was ‘separated’ if not officially divorced, but the Federal government is loathe to step in and stir up another hornets’ nest. Our last Prime Minister, Stephen Harper made a stab at placation. “Prime Minister Stephen Harper has waded into the controversial issue of Quebec nationhood, saying he will introduce a motion recognizing that Quebecers form a nation “within a united Canada.”” (CBC News Nov. 22, 2006). In 1988 the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that some of Quèbec’s language laws enforcing the use of French. e.g., on outside signs, were unconstitutional.
I hope it is not peculiar to say that we are kind of between a rock and a hard place. Mona, I do apologize for telling you more than you ever wanted to know about the situation here, and I apologize to Intercept for being so far off the subject matter. I will save the rest for my personal journal. Good luck with your own desires and actions to make things better.
excellent response, it’s not easy to deal with family in these matters.
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