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Buttery!Leaked mod mail conversations from r/TheCinemassacre (the official AVGN subreddit) reveal shady moderatior practices and behaviors, such as banning users (self.SubredditDrama)

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Background Information: r/TheCinemassacre is the official subreddit for the Cinemassacre YouTube channel. The channel is run by James Rolfe and Mike Matei. The subreddit is moderated by Mike.

Full Album of Leaked Modmail

Detailed Explanations:

Aftermath of Mike Matei's Dick Pic Posts

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This modmail discusses a situation where Mike posted a picture of his penis on his Twitter account and on the official Cinemassacre subreddit using his moderator account. That post has since been deleted.

In the aftermath of this, Mike did not apologize or explain himself and he was accused of banning anyone who mentioned the posting of the dick pictures. Here is one thread that was completely nuked, asking what was going on. Many of the users here were banned.

YouTube Comment Screenshot, since deleted

Welcome to new Mods

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This confirms the dick pic thing was actually Mike, and shows how he basically polices the sub himself disregarding the rules, making it restricted every so often, and doesn't even know how to check modmail.

Mike Removing Legitimate Discussions

The "drunk streaming" was when Mike streamed on the official "Cinemassacre Plays" YouTube channel almost blackout drunk, then banned and removed anyone who spoke about it. Apparently he game-overed on the first level of Super Mario Bros on the NES.

Bootsy's Departure

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Bootsy was a part of the Cinemassacre YouTube channel until last year. We don't know why he left. Bootsy has said that he left to focus on his music. According to a reddit post made by Mike, Bootsy left because "[Cinemassacre] is moving in a different direction."

The screenshots show that there really is no policy on the Bootsy discussion. Mike and BTNMasherDraco (a new mod that Mike hired recently) have been deleting what they arbitrarily decide and banning other users too. It has been confirmed, from another thread on r/TheCinemassacreTruth that it is Mike doing most of the banning and giving no reasons.

Because of this leak, Mike has removed 9 moderators from the subreddit.

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[–]stopscopiesmedoesn't even go here 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (3子コメント)

"we're going to be the subject of an SRD post or something if this keeps up"

oh ZadocPaet, the Cassandra of 10 months ago

[–]focus_risingdon't read this [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you're still hungry, the drama continues here: https://np.reddit.com/r/AVGN/comments/6dwv28/mrw_mike_posts_his_dick_on_reddit_bans_everyone/di62uxp/?context=1 with the new mod replying to the accusations from this thread.

[–][削除されました]  (1子コメント)

[removed]

    [–]stopscopiesmedoesn't even go here[M] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    can you remove that ping? you can't ping people featured in the drama

    [–]ZadocPaet 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Well, since I am in the leaks, I want to comment on this.

    A year ago Mike approached /r/AVGN to merge with /r/TheCinemassacre when Mike made an offer to have one unified sub. It was, at the time, a bastion of spam. We added reddit mods, cleaned up the sub, and grew it to over 10,000 users.

    Then there was the dick-pic incident. I think what made him retract it was either that he sobered up, was told by James or someone to take it down, or the fact that he got called out for it being a perspective shot with his dick closer to the camera than the tape measure, making it appear to be 10 inches when. After the dick pic incident, Mike's behavior got more erratic. He'd occasionally set the sub to restricted without telling anyone. We'd find out from a user who was not able to post and sent a modmail.

    There was also another incident where he wen't on a ban spree after he live streamed himself playing a video game where he was straight black-out drunk. The stream got linked and anyone who asked about it got banned.

    A few months ago Mike has added shill YouTubers as mods and removed the reddit mods. He's also banned anyone who talks about the dick incident or Bootsy, or anything he doesn't like. Especially criticism or any "Mike has a big dick" memes.

    I personally believe this is in violation of reddit's new moderator guidelines. We had discussed asking reddit to remove Mike, but he calmed down and nothing came of it.

    Anyways, /r/AVGN re-opened the other day as a result of the mod purge.

    The new shill mod he added also seems to indicate that he works for Cinemassacre.

    Further, /r/TheCinemassacre has been removed from the Retro Gaming Network and /r/AVGN was put in its place.

    I want to finally add that I don't care about the removal. I've been disillusioned with Mike for the past year. I feel that I am correctly represented in the modmail.

    AMA

    [–]soulruler 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Any way to view that drunken Livestream Mike did?

    [–]ZadocPaet 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Not as far as I know. He pretty quickly realized he didn't want it up and no back ups have surfaced. I watched it for only a few minutes. It's something that no one would want in public.

    [–]diebrdie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Go ask 4chan I'm sure they got it

    [–]snallygasterFUCK_MOD$_420 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    >dick pix
    >metadrama
    >leaks
    >mod abuse
    >mass demodding
    >internet celebrities
    >binge drinking

    this is some GOOD shit. Thanks OP!.

    [–]MENDACIOUS_RACISTbiased obfuscator 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Where's the videogames??

    [–]Atimo3Your meme is dank and you should feel dank[🍰] 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's tangentially related to the Angry Video Game Nerd, that counts.

    [–]snallygasterFUCK_MOD$_420 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    video game drama is NEVER good imo tbqhwy

    [–]your-opinions-false [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I thought the JonTron stuff was great. But I suppose that's also tangential.

    [–]Sarge_WardHammer_of_Truthiness' Prodigy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    wrong

    [–]JoshSidekick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    We can get JonTron to explain the top ten Atari 2600 activision games and why black people are genetically designed to be poor. That'll change his mind about video game drama.

    [–]jairo_uystove's ready 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Its always good when dick pics arent the most arousing part

    Mmmmm yeah mods keeps abusing...

    [–]phedre 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    idk the dick was pretty arousing.

    [–]jairo_uystove's ready 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    finally got a chance to look it up

    eh, there's something so cold about it being on a wooden slab with a tape measure. there's no whimsy, no joy. so unnecessarily industrial.

    [–]decadentegalitarian [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Would you have preferred something a little more /r/cospenis?

    [–]jairo_uystove's ready [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    oh what the hell, i can't stop giggling

    [–]dirtygremlinMy wit is quick because I'm smart. Take note. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Dick Pics, directed by Ingmar Bergman.

    [–]Flomosho 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    So, Mike Mateninches ten incher was true? Would it be wrong if I posted the tweet?

    [–]ZadocPaet 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    So, Mike Mateninches ten incher was true?

    Nope. False. He held his dick closer to the camera than the tape measure. He didn't remove the thread until after someone called him out on the perspective trick.

    [–]MechaAaronBurrThe mechanism that keeps all of the crabs in the bucket 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Goddamnit. Guess I'll just fucking toss all my Mike Matei/Babe Ruth/Errol Flynn frotteurism fanfic right in the trash.

    [–]stopscopiesmedoesn't even go here 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    probably no to be on the safe side. it's possible that it's considered involuntary pornography

    [–]friendlyfacethis 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    I don't understand how. He posted it on a public forum for anyone who wanted to see/download.

    [–]awkwardtheturtleTurtle Justice Warrior 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    It breaks the reddit user agreement:

    You may not purposefully negate any user's actions to delete or edit their content on reddit. This is intended to respect the privacy of reddit users who delete or edit their content, and is not intended to abridge the fair use or the expressive rights shared by us all.

    https://www.reddit.com/help/useragreement/#section_respect_users_that_edit_their_content

    [–]4445414442454546this is not flair [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Making /u/SnapshillBot the ultimate outlaw

    [–]ZadocPaet 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    http://gfycat.com/ImperfectSpitefulIndochinahogdeer

    [–]PM_ME_DEAD_ALTRIGHTS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    So when people post archive.is of reddit threads that contain now-deleted comments, they're breaking the rules?

    Pretty telling that the admins specifically have a policy that outlaws methods to hold people accountable.

    [–]stopscopiesmedoesn't even go here 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The mods of cinnemassacre said the admins are treating it as such, or at least they did a year ago. I don't feel like messaging the admins and asking about it, especially since I'm unlikely to get a reply until tuesday

    [–]Flomosho 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Also it's been a year or so since this was posted. This has been a topic for a long time, and is easily searchable. Just type it into Google and you'll find it quickly.

    [–]PM_ME_MICHAEL_STIPE 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    This drama is the only entertaining thing that Mike Matei has ever been responsible for.

    [–]chaobreakerFirst you get the money, then the power, and then communism. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I liked his Joker performance in that AVGN Batman episode. I think that's him, right?

    And... His art is okay?

    That's all I have.

    [–]FLAMBOYANTORUM 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I don't know man, listening to him talking about building brown bricks with Minecrap for a minute is pretty entertaining

    [–]kmeisthax [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I hope he doesn't take down SiIvagunner over the Inspector Gadget rips

    [–]TheWiseYoda 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    This is not to leave the moderator discussion area

    lol

    [–]seanfish [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    The huge tragedy here is that drunk Mike clearly wants someone to stage an intervention and sober Mike and his enablers don't.

    [–]piddlystains [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    Okay, this is some funny drama and I'm sad I missed it.

    I mean, part of it just I've always felt Mike was the weak link in the crew. And I've found a few of his comments in random videos a bit interesting. I lost interest in watching him play games when Bootsy wasn't in the mix so I never saw any of his drunk streams.

    Though it's also a bit sad. This paints a picture of a man that reminds me of teenage me moderating forums (minus posting dick pics) more than something a well-adjusted adult does.

    [–]NotJohnStamos [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    The only time I liked Mike was in Board James. I felt like he did a good role in all of them. His side characters in AVGN were... Okay. Joker was probably the worst of them but still tolerable.

    The normal person videos where he and James talk about stuff? Can't stand him.

    [–]piddlystains [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I'm not a fan of his characters, though Board James was a good fit for him.

    As for his unscripted stuff, I'm not a fan of him (I stopped watching the let's plays and such when Bootsy left, honestly; and I get the impression that Mike is the sort that gets too into a game when he plays).

    Honestly, watching the Power Rangers review, I found him a bit creepy when commenting on the (Pink? Yellow?) Ranger's attractiveness. Don't know why, it's not like he was crude or anything, just something about it struck me as a bit creepy.

    But these are all YouTube impressions of someone I don't know. So it's worth not very much.

    [–]Mlahk7 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    But seriously...what kind of mod doesn't know how to check modmail?

    [–]vysken [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

    Only the most incompetent.

    [–]ZadocPaet [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

    I even made him a tutorial once.

    [–]NintendoGamer1997[S] [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    Did he not have the time or patience to go through it?

    [–]ZadocPaet [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    He said he couldn't follow the instructions. I literally emailed him screenshots of the step-by-step procedure and how to click on the icon for modmail. It's literally just clicking an icon. He told me he could not figure it out.

    [–]NintendoGamer1997[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    So... he can lean how to edit videos, but he can't learn how to use reddit?

    [–]stopscopiesmedoesn't even go here [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Motherfucking Mike

    [–]Sarge_WardHammer_of_Truthiness' Prodigy [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    Man all Mike wanted to do was build brown bricks in Minecrap with his good buddy Inspector Gadget, and now he's got to deal with all this drama! Poor guy!

    [–]LinkBalls 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    this isn't any ordinary nerd drama. it goes deep. my friend spent all night looking for that dick

    [–]dirtygremlinMy wit is quick because I'm smart. Take note. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    It doesn't go as deep as you think it did...

    [–]SnapshillBotShilling for Big Archive™ 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I still miss ttumblrbots sometimes.

    Snapshots:

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    2. r/TheCinemassacre - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

    3. <strong>Full Album of Leaked Modmail</strong> - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

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    6. Here is one thread that was complet... - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

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    8. Screenshot 1 - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

    9. Screenshot 2 - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

    10. <strong>Mike Removing Legitimate Discussions</strong> - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

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    14. reddit post made by Mike - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

    15. r/TheCinemassacreTruth - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

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    [–]TheCommunistElephantNot Actually A Communist 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh, I thought this was about AVN awards first, not Angry Video Game Nerd, I was so confused.

    [–]e_x_i_t [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Oh fuck, Bootys left? They didn't even do a farewell video or anything did they, he was one of the main draws to the channel since James (understandably) kind of took the back seat and it explains why Ryan has been in more videos lately.

    [–]spookycookies 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Further drama and rule waving going on here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AVGN/comments/6dwv28/mrw_mike_posts_his_dick_on_reddit_bans_everyone/

    [–]TotesMessengerMessenger for Totes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

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    [–]soulruler 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'd love to see that drunken Livestream

    [–]ViceAdmiralObvious 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm convinced that Mike Matei has an unrequited crush on James Rolfe. The way he eyefucks him sometimes in the videos is blatant.

    One day it's going to explode, mark my words.

    [–]vgmaster831 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Honestly, I don't really have a problem with those practices.

    [–]ElagabalusRexAnarchist-Monarchist-Feudalist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I'm having a lot of fun.

    [–]diebrdie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    So what?

    Is it against the law to not have written policy for a subreddit dedicated to your personal company?