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Monday, October 20, 2014

A response to Brianna Wu

Brianna Wu, who may or may not be the former Bruce Freeman, has successfully sold his sob story to the Washington Post:
They’ve taken down women I care about one by one. Now, the vicious mob of the Gamergate movement is coming after me. They’ve threatened to rape me. They’ve threatened to make me choke to death on my husband’s severed genitals. They’ve threatened to murder any children I might have.

This angry horde has been allowed to wage its misogynistic war without penalty for too long. It’s time for the video game industry to stop them.
No. What part of this does he not understand. "You could say all gamers drink the blood of innocents under a full moon and I still wouldn't give a fuck." - Phasmal. That is exactly how the average gamer feels about this. Whether Wu ends up being ritually tortured and force-fed Ebola before being sacrificed to Cthulhu on an altar made of desert-aged E.T. cartridges or not, his fate is not going to alter any of our opinions on the matter in the slightest. We don't care. People are dying of Ebola in Africa too. We are still going to design, develop, and play exactly the sort of games we want to design, develop, and play.

And as for those hypothetical children, well, to paraphrase the immortal Zaphod Beeblebrox, count the chromosomes.
Gamergate is ostensibly about journalistic ethics. Supporters say they want to address conflicts of interest between the people that make games and the people that support them. In reality, Gamergate is a group of gamers that are willing to destroy the women who have invaded their clubhouse.
No, #GamerGate is a broad spectrum of gamers who have no intention of permitting a small group of pinkshirted SJWs do to games what the pinkshirts have done to SF/F literature, namely, destroy it through hyperpoliticization. And we are well aware that the so-called "game journalists" are conspiring with those pinkshirts to do it.
The next day, my Twitter mentions were full of death threats so severe I had to flee my home. They have targeted the financial assets of my company by hacking. They have tried to impersonate me on Twitter. Even as we speak, they are spreading lies to journalists via burner e-mail accounts in an attempt to destroy me professionally.
Boo-freaking-hoo. Even if we assume those "death threats" are genuine, Wu destroyed himself professionally when he lined up with the pinkshirts in the media against the gamer community. No serious gamer will ever play one of his games, no matter how many ideological sympathetic game journalists write favorably about it.
We’ve lost too many women to this lunatic mob. Good women the industry was lucky to have, such as Jenn Frank, Mattie Bryce and my friend Samantha Allen, one of the most insightful critics in games media. They decided the personal cost was too high, and I don’t know who could blame them. Every women I know in the industry is terrified she will be next.
We don't want them, and it is entirely obvious that we don't need them either. There are more than a few real genuine women who are part of GamerGate. Obviously Wu doesn't know any of them, because unlike him, they are not pinkshirt-wearing political activists who are more considerably interested in ideological propaganda and self-inflating genre than in electronic entertainment.
The culture in which women are treated this way by gamers didn’t happen in a vacuum. For 30 years, video games have been designed by men, marketed to men and sold to men. It’s obvious to anyone outside the industry that video games have serious issues with the portrayal of women. It’s not just oversexualized examples, such as Ivy of the Soul Caliber series. Games are still lazily falling on the same outdated tropes involving women. Princess Peach, of Nintendo’s Mario games, has been kidnapped in 12 separate games since 1985. Perhaps the most disturbing of all is the propensity of games to have women thoughtlessly murdered as a motivation for the male hero, such as Watch Dogs.

The consequence of this culture is male gamers have been trained to feel video games are their turf. In stopping Gamergate, the men who dominate it – not just women — must address the culture that created Gamergate.
No. In a word, no. We don't have to do anything of the sort. Nor do we wish to do so. It is our culture. Also, I note that Wu is dismissing the work of very single genuine female in the industry over the last 30 years. Roberta Williams, Jane Jensen, Brenda Laurel, Scorpia and Charlotte Panther at CGW, just to name a few. (To say nothing of Dani Bunton.) As for the "women thoughtlessly murdered" in video games than the men, surely Wu doesn't imagine that the virtual body count is even remotely close to being distributed equally on sex grounds.
Some have. But many more have been silent. In the male-dominated video game media, many have chosen to sit by and do nothing as Gamergate picks us off, one by one. IGN has not covered Gamergate. Game Informer has not covered Gamergate. Ironically, the people who most need to hear this message are not hearing it, because of an editorial choice to stay on the sidelines.
He spoke too soon; Andy caved earlier today. So, it is an absolutely ludicrous lie to claim that anyone in the game industry is not hearing the absurd message, especially when anti-gaming pinkshirts are openly bragging about how the media is in their back pocket.
There are many straightforward steps we can take to change this.

First, major institutions in video games, which happen to be dominated by men, need to speak up immediately and denounce Gamergate. The dam started to break this week as Patrick Klepek of Giant Bomb broke the silence at their publication on Monday. Last week, the industry’s top trade group, the Electronic Software Association spoke out against Gamergate, saying “Threats of violence and harassment have to stop. There is no place in the video game community for personal attacks and threats.”
No one, literally no one, cares what "the Electronic Software Association" has to say. Considering how successful they were attacking video game piracy, if they're on the anti-gamers' side, the pinkshirts ought to raise the white flag now.
Secondly, I call upon the entire industry to examine its hiring practices at all levels. Women make up half of all gamers, yet we make up only a fraction of this industry. While it’s possible to point to high profile women in the field, the fact remains. Women hold a shockingly disproportionate number of high level positions in game studios, game publishers and particularly in leadership roles. There are just 11 percent of game designers and 3 percent of programmers, according to The Boston Globe. Game journalism also plays a critical role. It doesn’t matter how many women we get into game production. If the only people evaluating the work we do continue to be men, women’s voices will never be heard.
Women no more "make up half of all gamers" than Brianna Wu has two X chromosomes. Playing Candy Crush Saga or Angry Birds or Kim Kardashian's Mutant Butt Destroys the Sheboygan Mall doesn't make one a gamer any more than playing Myst did. "Gamer" is derived from "wargamer" and it is shorthand for "core gamer" or "serious gamer". It does not refer to anyone who happens to play an electronic game any more than it refers to someone who plays hopskotch. No one is stopping women from starting their own game reviews. That's exactly what I did in 1991 when virtually no one was reviewing games in the mainstream media and that's how I ended up being nationally syndicated, with a game review column running weekly everywhere from Boston to San Francisco.
My friend Quinn told me about a folder on her computer called, “The Ones We’ve Lost.” They are the letters she’s gotten from young girls who dream of being game developers, but are terrified of the environment they see. I nearly broke into tears as I told her I had a folder filled with the same. The truth is, even if we stopped Gamergate tomorrow, it will have already come at too high a cost.
To dream of "being game developers" is not at all the same thing as doing the hard work of developing games. Those young girls may desire the status, but they show  absolutely no sign of wanting to actually do the work involved. Anyone who really and truly wants to make games will do so, and will not permit anyone to dissuade them. You don't need anyone's permission to be a game developer. You don't need anyone's encouragement. You don't need hugs and a welcome mat. Thanks to the panoply of great tools available, it has never been easier to develop games. Wu can cry if he likes, but the fact is that none of "The Ones We've Lost" were ever going to develop a single game. Ever. Not even if they were welcomed into the industry with pixies, unicorns, and rainbows.

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Anonymous Josh October 20, 2014 4:24 PM  

Has this chinawoman actually developed any games?

This reminds me of espn.com bringing in women sportswriters around ten years ago who used sports as a launching pad to write about themselves and their feelings.

Blogger Nate October 20, 2014 4:25 PM  

so wait...

Are the gamers an unstoppable all-powerful horde... or are they a bunch of incompetent pathetic nerds who are getting their asses kicked?

These people need to make up their minds.

Anonymous Josh October 20, 2014 4:28 PM  

Are the gamers an unstoppable all-powerful horde... or are they a bunch of incompetent pathetic nerds who are getting their asses kicked?

That brilliant oatmeal comic on playing video games online comes to mind...

Anonymous DrTorch October 20, 2014 4:29 PM  

Women make up half of all gamers, yet we make up only a fraction of this industry

I thought this was shown to be a blatant falsehood. Do I remember that wrong?

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 4:31 PM  

"My friend Quinn told me about a folder on her computer called, “The Ones We’ve Lost.” They are the letters she’s gotten from young girls who dream of being game developers, but are terrified of the environment they see."

Wait... does this refer to LW1 or a different drama-whore?

If it's LW1... well, what are the odds?

Josh - Has this chinawoman actually developed any games?

Wu is neither Chinese nor a very convincing woman. But apparently has made one game.

Anonymous Josh October 20, 2014 4:33 PM  

I thought this was shown to be a blatant falsehood. Do I remember that wrong?

Think about candy crush, Farmville, and the Kim Kardashian game.

Anonymous Scintan October 20, 2014 4:33 PM  

This is another garbage sob story. I put it right up there with the vegan dyke who crashed the restaurant with her sob story about her pet chicken.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 20, 2014 4:34 PM  

All the threats she is talking about came from one, single deranged Twitter tirade which has NO link at all to #GG - do any of the journalists investigate or do they just take her at her word?

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 4:34 PM  

BTW, it's instructive to remember what started Literally Wu's sad story.

She/he/it went onto 8chan to try to troll the gamergate folks there, got laughed at, flounced off twitter FOUR EVAH, then a few hours later was back crying about death threats, which he/she/it screencapped with amazing speed.

In other words, all this is absolute premeditated bullshit.

OpenID cailcorishev October 20, 2014 4:35 PM  

Women make up half of all gamers, yet we make up only a fraction of this industry

I assume women make up half of all milk drinkers, but I don't see them demanding to shovel 50% of the cow shit.

Anonymous Student in Blue October 20, 2014 4:37 PM  

My friend Quinn told me about a folder on her computer called, “The Ones We’ve Lost.” They are the letters she’s gotten from young girls who dream of being game developers, but are terrified of the environment they see. I nearly broke into tears as I told her I had a folder filled with the same. The truth is, even if we stopped Gamergate tomorrow, it will have already come at too high a cost.

People, I implore you to look at this, her example of writing. Look at how awkwardly blatant the emotional panhandling is. It's not subtle, it's not unique, it's not even moving just because of how hammy it is.

At this rate, Brian Blessed is less ham than this porker. "Oh, she had a folder, and I had a folder, and, and... *crocodile tears*"

Anonymous Gdeck Bob October 20, 2014 4:40 PM  

Hilarious.

Developing a game, an add-on, a sequel... no big deal, particularly back in the day.

My son and I developed a 32-level Doom sequel called "Perditions Gate", got a couple dudes to help with the last four levels because of time constraints, shipped it off to Wizard Works who published it and sold a few thousand copies.

I even made a few bucks in the process, then went back to designing RF systems for accelerators. But my son went ahead and developed his own computer gaming company here in Dallas which is thriving today.

Nobody ever tried to stop us or slow us down or whatever. If women want to develop games, what the hell, nobody's stopping them. Seems the only thing that becomes a roadblock to their success is a crappy product, no talent, or no one to do the heavy lifting. Boo-hoo-hoo.

Anonymous Dumb founded October 20, 2014 4:41 PM  

"Anyone who really and truly wants to make games will do so and will not permit anyone to dissuade them."

You don't understand. Most of the women who are complaining are such special snowflakes that some man has to write the game for them and let the woman put her name to it because she thought of the idea for the game.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus October 20, 2014 4:41 PM  

"Games are still lazily falling on the same outdated tropes involving women."

She wants strenuous obedience to pinkshirt dictates. She can't have it.

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 4:42 PM  

I thought this was shown to be a blatant falsehood. Do I remember that wrong?

No, that's correct. I meant to address that. Corrected.

Blogger IM2L844 October 20, 2014 4:44 PM  

@Spacekatgal Shut up and fetch me a samich.

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 4:44 PM  

My son and I developed a 32-level Doom sequel called "Perditions Gate", got a couple dudes to help with the last four levels because of time constraints, shipped it off to Wizard Works who published it and sold a few thousand copies.

HA! I remember that. Well done. I knew those guys, they sent me a copy.

Anonymous BluntForceTrauma October 20, 2014 4:45 PM  

I was gonna comment on the asinine "Women make up half of all gamers . . ." but I see someone beat me to it.

Even if true by some fantasy of redefinition, I don't consider Farmville to be the kind of game we're talking about?

As Vox says, develop your own damn games, then. Sell them and play them. Fer cryin' out loud, grow a pair of balls. Oh, wait. . . .

Anonymous Stilicho October 20, 2014 4:47 PM  

It’s time for the video game industry to stop them.

There is no video game industry without male gamers.

In reality, Gamergate is a group of gamers that are willing to destroy the women who have invaded their clubhouse.

Let's assume this is true. Why the fuck did you invade their clubhouse? Do you provide milk and cookies to would be thieves and vandals who invade your home? To quote your hero, "you didn't build that"!!! Go build your own damned clubhouse and quit whining already.

On second thought, keep whining. Keep doing what you're doing. You'll drive home my points more effectively than anything I could say.

Anonymous jc October 20, 2014 4:47 PM  

Nailed it. Women are welcome in the game clubhouse. SJW women are, however, not welcome to take over the clubhouse, declare all the icky white nerds to be cis-scum misogynists, and kick us out so they can turn games into another vector for their political activism.

Anonymous RafterManFMJ October 20, 2014 4:48 PM  

"E.T. cartridges"

carcasses?

Anonymous Salt October 20, 2014 4:49 PM  

It’s obvious to anyone outside the industry that video games have serious issues with the portrayal of women

Wait till Lena Dunham starts making games.

Anonymous Student in Blue October 20, 2014 4:50 PM  

@RafterManFMJ
carcasses?

Cartridges.

Anonymous Zell October 20, 2014 4:51 PM  

So, let me get this straight.

GamerGate is a tiny movement of vastly outnumbered, pathetic male nerds who no one takes serious because their culture is 'dead', and they are picking off professionals left and right, forcing them out of the industry because of their power.

That about right?

By the way: The ESA denouncing death threats is not a denouncement of GamerGate.

Blogger Krul October 20, 2014 4:52 PM  

It’s obvious to anyone outside the industry that video games have serious issues with the portrayal of women. It’s not just oversexualized examples, such as Ivy of the Soul Caliber series. Games are still lazily falling on the same outdated tropes involving women. Princess Peach, of Nintendo’s Mario games, has been kidnapped in 12 separate games since 1985.

She fails to mention Samus, Chell, or GLADOS for some reason. I wonder why.

Anonymous NateM October 20, 2014 4:53 PM  

"My friend Quinn told me about a folder on her computer called, “The Ones We’ve Lost.”

Spreadsheet of her various miscarriages?

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 4:53 PM  

There is no place in the video game community for personal attacks and threats.”

If that is true, they'll have a tough time explaining every online multiplayer session ever. Bitches.

Anonymous trk October 20, 2014 4:55 PM  

This wench is upset that princess peach had been kidnapped 12 times in the Mario series? Wait until she discovers "books" and reads what her female authors write about.

Then she can read real life horror, such as "the rape of Nanking". Princess peach please.

Anonymous RafterManFMJ October 20, 2014 4:57 PM  

"My friend Quinn told me about a folder on her computer called, “The Ones We’ve Lost.” They are the letters she’s gotten from young girls who dream of being game developers, but are terrified of the environment they see. I nearly broke into tears as I told her I had a folder filled with the same. The truth is, even if we stopped Gamergate tomorrow, it will have already come at too high a cost."

I would bet 10K this is pure, complete bullshit!

Does ANYONE believe either one has such a folder?

Anonymous Lithonius October 20, 2014 5:00 PM  

The problem these pinkshirts are facing is not the shrieks and cries of gamers angry about people invading their clubhouse. Development (from what I've read here and on other sites) of games is just as cutthroat as the games they create. I've never developed any, but I have played plenty of MMO's and competitive games, and gamers play to win. Can't perform your role? Kicked from the raid. Don't have the gear to participate? Fired. Can't keep quiet on teamspeak during coordination? Fired. Yet I have found myself on plenty of occasions playing with -gasp- women! Despite the stringent requirements for participation, they put the effort in and perform their roles correctly, and then nobody cares who or what is behind the keyboard, or who or what that person has sex with. It only matters that you win.

The problem they are facing is that they've dominated all their other matches (journalism, education, media) because their opponents thought they could win the 'honorable' way against an opponent who fights dirty. Gamers have shown time and again that they will go out of their way to fight dirty, win, and then rub it in your face (examples: jumping into your dark souls game naked, and then punching you to death while you wear your best gear, winning fighting games with characters designed to be weak, camping in an FPS just to teabag your corpse when you can't kill them, the list goes on and on). This is the same group of people that have mastered grand strategy games while at the same time are detail-oriented enough to worry about the number of animation frames a punch takes to connect. But now this group, who just wants to be left alone to win at their games, has been dragged into the ring to be beaten into submission to the pinkshirts who have run out of big-enough opponents. This will be just another challenge to them, just another game. Not all of them will participate, but once the rules and win conditions have been figured out, there's nothing to stop them from playing.

Anonymous WaterBoy October 20, 2014 5:01 PM  

Josh: "Think about candy crush, Farmville, and the Kim Kardashian game."

*sigh*

These pastimes are to video games what Candyland is to Axis and Allies. Yeah, it's a board game...but are they even comparable, bro?

Unfortunate that they get counted in the numbers, it is.

Anonymous trk October 20, 2014 5:01 PM  

Bri Wu is playing the real life version of Depression Quest. Next week she will play the sequel, DQ II - Fame Whore. Followed by DQ III - no one likes me, why?

Anonymous Stephen J. October 20, 2014 5:02 PM  

"They are the letters she’s gotten from young girls who dream of being game developers, but are terrified of the environment they see."

I think Ms. Wu has unfortunately betrayed her own would-be proteges with this formulation. By her own words these are the girls who dream of being game developers. They are not the girls who dream of developing games. Given that it was feminist criticism that articulated and rejected the distinction between "masculine doing" and "feminine being", it is telling that Ms. Wu falls victim to that very same distinction now in her outcry.

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 5:03 PM  

And to think poor Mitt Romney was mocked for his "binders full of women".

At least his were probably real.

Anonymous Josh October 20, 2014 5:05 PM  

Has anyone ever not seen gamers go out of their way to help girls in MMORPG's?

They're falling all over each other to invite girls into their raids.

Anonymous Rob October 20, 2014 5:06 PM  

Does ANYONE believe either one has such a folder?

If I found out that a friend of mine had a folder like the one Wu describes, I think I'd be profoundly disturbed.

Anonymous WaterBoy October 20, 2014 5:09 PM  

cailcorishev: "I assume women make up half of all milk drinkers, but I don't see them demanding to shovel 50% of the cow shit."

Brilliant!

Thread-winner Nominee.

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 5:10 PM  

By her own words these are the girls who dream of being game developers. They are not the girls who dream of developing games.

Excellent point. Duly noted.

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 5:11 PM  

Ahem, Anonymous, do try again, but with a Name this time: NO ANONYMOUS COMMENTS. Anonymous comments will be deleted.

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 5:13 PM  

Anonymous - Not sure if it's been confirmed that 'Brianna' is a tranny, but...

COME ON!!!

Anonymous CharlesCharlesWigglesworthIII October 20, 2014 5:14 PM  

"Kim Kardashian's Mutant Butt Destroys the Sheboygan Mall"

Did this make it out of beta?

Anonymous dingo October 20, 2014 5:16 PM  

Game Informer just put out an article on it

Anonymous RapidOffensiveUnit October 20, 2014 5:16 PM  

OK, I'm not anon anymore.

Yes, it's confirmed Wu is tranny.

http://bangordailynews.com/2011/07/12/news/lewiston-auburn/maine-dennys-restaurants-reverse-transgender-restroom-policy/

So, why the hell are we still talking about her in "women in gaming industry" context? That's no woman, that's abomination.

OpenID spastic0plastic October 20, 2014 5:16 PM  

I can't believe such an ugly woman (?) thinks she deserves more sympathy over rape threats than the person who typed them, and even indirectly had that thought do violence upon his or her brain.

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 5:16 PM  

It's SJW Informer now.

Anonymous kfg October 20, 2014 5:17 PM  

"— must address the culture that created Gamergate."

Fucking for reviews. Yes, you really ought to address that if you expect anyone to read them, let alone take them seriously.

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 5:21 PM  

ROU - it's sad that restaurants need a "transgender restroom policy" other than "get the fuck out of our restrooms".

Anonymous Thales October 20, 2014 5:21 PM  

Threadwin seems tied between cailcorishev for cow shit analogy and Stephen J. for pointing-out that "being a game developer" is now a sexy, aspirational good targetted at girls.

As someone who works in an esoteric tech field that never makes the media, and thus has no women working it, I've been pointing-out the latter for some time now, so exclude myself from voting.

Blogger Eric October 20, 2014 5:23 PM  

Am I the only one who thinks these threats are either falsehoods spun from whole cloth or deliberate misinterpretations of things people actually did send him/her?

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 5:28 PM  

Yes, it's confirmed Wu is tranny.

Good point. Corrected.

It's SJW Informer now.

Sadly, yes. Corrected.

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 5:28 PM  

Eric - When Anita Sarkeesian was looking to publicise her original Kickstarter, she went on 4chan to poke the trolls.

She's not naive. She knew what 4chan was all about. After she publicised the resulting death threats, internet fame and fortune was hers.

In an amazing example of history repeating itself, when Brian Wu decided to publicise his game, he went on 8chan...

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 20, 2014 5:30 PM  

Something to take note of.

These females; Quinn and Wu have gotten fairly good access to major media outlets.

Who was the go between I wonder? Who is telling their friends at the majors to pick up the phone for them?

And do those persons work for universities?

Possibly I'm being more paranoid than usual. After all its an election year and the lib-progs in the media are desperate for anything at all that will keep the "War on Women" meme fed.

But then again maybe I'm not. Wasn't the Internet Aristocrat planning to do a story on that?

Anonymous kfg October 20, 2014 5:34 PM  

" If the only people evaluating the work we do continue to be men, women’s voices will never be heard."

As a tranny, perhaps you don't actually understand how fucking for reviews works.

Anonymous Stephen J. October 20, 2014 5:35 PM  

Personally, I think Zell's comment ("GamerGate is a tiny movement of vastly outnumbered, pathetic male nerds who no one takes serious because their culture is 'dead', and they are picking off professionals left and right, forcing them out of the industry because of their power. That about right?") should be the threadwinner, but I'll cheerfully accept the kudos.

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 5:36 PM  

You know that somewhere in Ohio, John Scalzi is shaking his head and cursing himself. "Dammit, why didn't I think of that! I even had the dress for it!"

Anonymous DNW October 20, 2014 5:36 PM  

Not being a video game player, I don't quite understand the "original" issue here.

Why don't the people complaining about being shut down simply make and sell, or give away, the games that they seem to think the world is waiting for but deprived of?

Is there a professional guild you have to belong to before you are allowed to design a "game" or write a program? Do you have to be accepted into some kind of club and get your hand stamped before being able to try your hand at producing a game?

Just how capital intensive is game writing, and how high are the financial entry barriers to writing?

Seriously ... I think.

Anonymous buzzcut October 20, 2014 5:37 PM  

The real reason Princess Peach got kidnapped so many times is because of that fine, onion booty.

Blogger The Deuce October 20, 2014 5:38 PM  

They’ve taken down women I care about one by one. Now, the vicious mob of the Gamergate movement is coming after me. They’ve threatened to rape me. They’ve threatened to make me choke to death on my husband’s severed genitals. They’ve threatened to murder any children I might have.

And yet, somehow, she remains unable to provide substantiation for any of that, beyond a single set of tweets of unknown orign. You'd think a Real Life Software Developer would know how to use archive.today, or at least the printscreen key. I'm pretending for the sake of argument that she's not just making shit up of course.

Anonymous jay c October 20, 2014 5:41 PM  

Does ANYONE believe either one has such a folder?

If they are in a folder on her computer, and not in a folder in her mailbox, that means they are most likely scanned paper letters and not emails, which means these girls didn't even know how to use a computer, let alone design or code a game. Evidently Ms. Wu knows how to use email, so I assume she knows how to create folders and move messages around in her mailbox. Maybe I'm assuming too much?

Anonymous Don October 20, 2014 5:42 PM  

Since he is a man who calls himself a woman he does not have a 'husband'. He has what we used to call a Sodomite but that seems to be out of vogue.

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 5:44 PM  

I assume Scalzi's still pre-op, so he could pull a Wu when "Lock In 2: SJW Boogaloo" comes out.

Blogger Anthony October 20, 2014 5:44 PM  

"Kim Kardashian's Mutant Butt Destroys the Sheboygan Mall"

Did this make it out of beta?


It's Kardashian's ass - it never made it away from alpha.

Anonymous jay c October 20, 2014 5:45 PM  

Correction. Mister Wu.

Anonymous kfg October 20, 2014 5:50 PM  

"Why don't the people complaining about being shut down simply make and sell, or give away, the games that they seem to think the world is waiting for but deprived of?"

Patriarchy!

"Just how capital intensive is game writing, and how high are the financial entry barriers to writing?"

When the offer is made to produce the games for free, yet pay out full author's royalties just for submitting the idea: there are no financial barriers.

But that, as it turns out, is; wait for it, wait for it . . .

Patriarchy!

Anonymous Myrddin October 20, 2014 5:51 PM  

Sorry if this is a double post. If not, praise be to the spam gods for allowing me to tweak my phrasing.

By her own words these are the girls who dream of being game developers. They are not the girls who dream of developing games.

That's not hard.

1. Download Unity.
2. Buy a premade tutorial game from the Asset store for $0-50.
3. Make a few levels.

Yes, that's right. You can be a game developer with zero game development plus maybe a month's beer money. Of course, if you make a beer-money company, it may be difficult to out-compete the other beer-money companies...

Anonymous kh123 October 20, 2014 5:54 PM  

All The President's.... well, whatever they are.

"Women hold a shockingly disproportionate number of high level positions in game studios, game publishers and particularly in leadership roles."

Besides the tendency to overpoliticize and police the workplace, accolades without shouldering the workload, and the added overhead involved with the potential of moar wominz in the office... Part of it might be due to aforementioned's tendency to rail against Company A one decade, and then after employment by it the next - lo and behold, that company's not so bad after all. The Great King truly desires autonomy and democracy be observed by all Hellas; truly!

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 5:55 PM  

Jay c - could be a folder in Outlook?

I assume it's bullshit though, because he's a hysterical nutcase tranny. They're all prone to hystrionic behaviour and delusions. Cutting their own junk off is just a symptom of their serious mental problems. Most of them eventually commit suicide. It's a sad, dangerous disorder and we're not doing them any favours when we play along with their fantasies.

Take this hysterical, paranoid nonsense:

Now, the vicious mob of the Gamergate movement is coming after me.

Gamergate doesn't have a leader. But if it did, it'd be this man:

His name is Fredrick Brennan. He's the man who started 8chan, because he believes in freedom of speech.

Does he look like the leader of a vicious mob?

Is gigantor-tranny Wu really afraid of Fredrick Brennan, and some other folks on Twitter?

Anonymous kfg October 20, 2014 5:57 PM  

"Does he look like the leader of a vicious mob?"

Ableism!

Anonymous The other skeptic October 20, 2014 6:02 PM  

To dream of "being game developers" is not at all the same thing as doing the hard work of developing games.

Indeed. Many men dream of being a developer on some open source software projects out there, but few put in the work to become one as well.

Anonymous Daniel October 20, 2014 6:04 PM  

ritually tortured and force-fed Ebola before being sacrificed to Cthulhu on an altar made of desert-aged E.T. cartridges or not

Yeah, but what a way to go!

Anonymous jay c October 20, 2014 6:06 PM  

Jay c - could be a folder in Outlook?

I expect the office secretary to call a folder in Outlook "a folder on my computer", but not a computer person. Maybe being a mail administrator, I'm too out of touch with the rank and file. Precision is so overrated in IT.

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 6:14 PM  

kfg - Stevophobic kfgnormative shitlord!

jay c - yes it sounds like a lie however you slice it. I think Wu got the idea from the Battlestar Galactica remake.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet October 20, 2014 6:16 PM  

Every women I know in the industry is terrified she will be next.

While not impossible to square... I've always found this amusing:

"THEY AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO ME AT ALL"

followed immediately by

"THEY WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE AT ALL"

Anonymous BluntForceTrauma October 20, 2014 6:17 PM  

Wait, what? Reading the article I don't get that Brianna is Wu. Wu is the lawyer. Brianna Freeman was formerly Brian.

Could be I'm reading it wrong but I don't think our Brianna Wu here is a transvestite. Fact check that carefully to avoid embarrassment. . . .

Anonymous patrick kelly October 20, 2014 6:17 PM  

re: Game developer/designer dreams.

It's not just womenz who get rejected.

(overheard years ago at a party with game developers hanging out. I was no longer in the industry)

"You got a game design idea? Great, I got some in my back pocket I wiped my ass with this morning...." J. A. B. the game producer and dream smasher.

Anonymous kfg October 20, 2014 6:19 PM  

"Stevophobic kfgnormative shitlord!"

I didn't build that. I stand on the shoulders of little people.

Anonymous Arcturus Rann October 20, 2014 6:22 PM  

Funny that Game Informer and Joystiq decided to wave their white (pink) flags on the same day and giving eerily similar explanations. It's odd how many of these journalistic coincidences keep happening when it comes to GG coverage.

Anonymous patrick kelly October 20, 2014 6:22 PM  

Funny how people want to *BE* a game developer but don't like doing anything required to make games......not just game development either......music production.....making videos...............like to talk about it a lot though....

You have to do special stuff to be special.......lots of failure along the way too....usually...

Anonymous Noah B. October 20, 2014 6:31 PM  

"Has this chinawoman actually developed any games?"

I don't think chinawoman is the preferred nomenclature...

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 6:37 PM  

Could be I'm reading it wrong but I don't think our Brianna Wu here is a transvestite. Fact check that carefully to avoid embarrassment. . . .

You are. There are three Wus involved:

1. Janson Wu, the lawyer.
2. Brianna Wu nee' Bruce Freeman
3. Frank Wu, Bruce/Brianna's "spouse"

Anonymous Salt October 20, 2014 6:40 PM  

From Wiki -

Brianna Wu
Nationality American
Occupation Game developer
Known for Tweets and essays on issues related to women in gaming
Spouse(s) Frank Wu

Blogger Michael Maier October 20, 2014 6:42 PM  

"Kim Kardashian's Mutant Butt Destroys the Sheboygan Mall "

Please tell me I'm not the only one that had to Google to make sure that wasn't real.

Anonymous yo mama October 20, 2014 6:44 PM  

Does Brianna just like Frank a lot or does it -love-
Frank Wu very much.

Anonymous The other skeptic October 20, 2014 6:44 PM  

You have to do special stuff to be special.......lots of failure along the way too....usually...

Not only lots of failure, which means that you have to be willing to keep going in the face of adversity, but those who are already there often do not have a lot of patience for newbies, so you need a thick skin as well.

And you need to be willing to accept when you have screwed up, get over the criticism and do better next time.

Anonymous John VI October 20, 2014 6:45 PM  

Lithonius, Your entire comment made me laugh because it is so true. Gamers play to win.

Vox has mentioned it before. The primary Weapon in the social justice warriors arsenal is shame and social ostracization. Literally they threaten to knock you down a few pegs on the social ladder if you don't do what they say. I am sure you are all aware of the internet troll SJW siren call " What are you? Some sort of nerd who plays video games in your parents basement?"

And then they turned around and attacked.... nerds who play videogames in their basements...OOPS.. On top of that, a LOT of these gamers, in particular Id wager the ones doing the majority of attacks, are ALREADY at the bottom of the social ladder. They cant be knocked down any lower.

The SJW have literally disarmed themselves of their only weapon and charged to the attack with... nothing. And they have never learned how to defend themselves from counter attack because their weapon of choice has been their shield in the past as well.

If nothing else, its going to be entertaining to watch the comeuppance of the SJW troops, even if the generals never make an appearance.

(It goes without saying that not all gamers fall into this category. But enough do that are more than willing to go on the offensive, as we are seeing on a daily basis. )

Anonymous Krul October 20, 2014 6:45 PM  

Wait a minute... Brianna Wu is the same tranny from last week? You're telling me that this whiny brat who plays the damsel in distress and dares to speak for all women everywhere is male? *facepalm* I knew that name looked familiar.

Women make up half of all gamers, yet we make up only a fraction of this industry.

What's this "we" business, eunuch? What, you can't find a cause of your own so you have to steal one from actual women?

God, this whole thing is a pathetic farce.

Blogger Eric October 20, 2014 6:45 PM  

Every women I know in the industry is terrified she will be next.

In what industry? In the game industry people who actually develop games are developing games and not spending the entire day on twitter. That's not the industry he/she is in.

Anonymous The other skeptic October 20, 2014 6:48 PM  

Does Brianna just like Frank a lot or does it -love-
Frank Wu very much.


I think Frank is what you would call a garden-variety homosexual. The other one is the fruitcake.

Blogger Eric October 20, 2014 6:48 PM  

Wait a minute... Brianna Wu is the same tranny from last week? You're telling me that this whiny brat who plays the damsel in distress and dares to speak for all women everywhere is male?

Reminds my of the scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail where Lancelot gets a note that says "Help, my father is keeping me captive..."

Blogger SirHamster October 20, 2014 6:49 PM  

From Wiki -

Brianna Wu
Nationality American



I find it interesting how there's nothing there about her maiden name or her parent's names. Those usually pop up in a biography. Apparently she just exists as a Brianna Wu.

I can't find what links the Brianna Freeman to this Brianna Wu, but I'm no Google-fu expert.

Anonymous kfg October 20, 2014 7:05 PM  

Know your wiki:

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Brianna_Wu

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother October 20, 2014 7:10 PM  

Brian Freeman's agony is gorgeous. Reading his pitiful screed makes me laugh heartily, deep within my black, dark soul. I can just imagine him cowering in fear as the Huns sweep over the hills above his hovel and trample him into a pink meaty paste with the glint of their metal shod hooves...or the ISIS warriors firing randomly at his office window, and Allah wills 7 bullets enter his body and brain.

NUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And speaking of faggots, and books about faggots, Difster you a motherfucker.

Anonymous TimP October 20, 2014 7:15 PM  

I think you might be off on the whole Brianna Wu is also Brianna Freeman thing.

Looking into it it sounds like Brianna Freeman is about 49 or 50 according to the articles I can find, while Brianna Wu sounds like she [probably?] is significantly younger than that.

Also It sounds like Brianna Freeman lives in Maine, while Brianna Wu lives in Massachusetts.

In addition in a "story of his life" post from 2009 Brianna Freeman doesn't mention journalism or marriage, even though by that Brianna Wu married Frank Wu in 2008 according to wikipedia, and was apparently working as a journalist at the time. (http://bangordailynews.com/2009/05/29/news/transgender-woman-reveals-difficulties/)

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 7:22 PM  

I think you might be off on the whole Brianna Wu is also Brianna Freeman thing.

For all I know for certain, she's not only a woman, but is actually Chinese. I'm hardly an expert.

Anonymous BlackJack October 20, 2014 7:25 PM  

One could be forgiven for wondering why these pictures were overlooked for its Twitter profile picture: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Brianna_Wu

OpenID cailcorishev October 20, 2014 7:30 PM  

Think about candy crush, Farmville, and the Kim Kardashian game.

Also Windows Solitaire, which had to eat up at least 10% of HR employee hours before social games came out.

OpenID cailcorishev October 20, 2014 7:33 PM  

These people really don't know what to do with non-political people who speak out. Everything is political to them, so they just don't understand the kind of person who speaks up only to be left alone. So much projection, too: they can't imagine caring about something without there being some hate beneath it, or banding together in a group without a shared hatred as the bond.

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 7:39 PM  

BFT & Sir Hamster - my googlefu is so-so but I couldn't find a smoking severed penis to connect Brianna Freeman and Brianna Wu either.

ED is convinced it's the same person. Pics suggest it might be the same guy after he lost weight/had work done, but it's not conclusive.

I agree with TimP that Brianna Wu seems to be a few years younger than Freeman.

The lack of biographical info on 'Brianna''s Wiki page is in itself suspicious though.

Apparently Frank and Brianna were married in 2008, but good luck trying to find any details on the internet. What are the odds two tech-savvy people from the United States managed to get married in 2008 without leaving a trace online?

Brianna describes undergoing "major surgery" in 2008 but said it was "to correct a long-standing birth defect to my urinary tract." Hmm.

So I don't know if they are the same person, but my eyes are working just fine.

This isn't normal heterosexual behaviour.

And that ain't a woman.

Anonymous VD October 20, 2014 7:42 PM  

So much projection, too: they can't imagine caring about something without there being some hate beneath it, or banding together in a group without a shared hatred as the bond.

More importantly, they can't understand that pointing and shrieking "they are so hateful and scary" does not dissuade most Xchan the way it shuts down the average middle-aged Republican. They clearly find it impossible to understand that the average Anonymous could not possibly care less what writers at the Washington Post, the Irish Times, or Gamasutra thinks of them.

Look at how the SFWA simply could not get its head around the fact that I genuinely don't care what they thought of me. This is similar, only orders of magnitude larger. The only problem is, they can't kick the gamers out of gaming.

Anonymous dh October 20, 2014 7:44 PM  

"Also It sounds like Brianna Freeman lives in Maine, while Brianna Wu lives in Massachusetts."

The area of Maine that the Bangor Daily News covers is in the ballpark of 3 hours from Massachusetts. Geographically speaking, it's not implausible.

Anonymous Steve October 20, 2014 7:50 PM  

BTW, the recent "death threats", that supposedly forced the Wus to head for the hills aren't the first time Ol' Bri has complained of "death threats" and, even more implausibly, "rape threats".

It isn't even the second time! He/She/What has been banging this victim drum for a long while now, despite being unknown till the latest one caught on with the press.

Wonder if any journalists might like to research the background of the boy who cried Wu.

Anonymous Scott October 20, 2014 7:52 PM  

I know an excellent way Brianna can personally increase the number of women in leadership positions in game companies.

Brianna can turn over her company to someone without a Y chromosome.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza October 20, 2014 7:59 PM  

let the men work in peace.

OpenID cailcorishev October 20, 2014 8:04 PM  

Threadwin seems tied between cailcorishev for cow shit analogy and Stephen J. for pointing-out that "being a game developer" is now a sexy, aspirational good targetted at girls.

It's an honor just to have been nominated. But I heard that Stephen uses a Glock.

Anonymous Daniel October 20, 2014 8:06 PM  

We’ve lost too many women to this lunatic mob.

And, apparently, one half-man.

Anonymous MrGreenMan October 20, 2014 8:10 PM  

Why don't all these women stop paying for video games until they force all the game developers to capitulate? I mean, I'm sure women are, like, 80% of the decision makers in video game purchases - get the VITO to veto, right?

...

I make myself laugh.

Don't you remember this same double-faced crap when we were told women made 80% of car purchases, but were being pushed into horrible earth-raper SUVs because some man had her mesmerized... when they were trying to kill the great horsepower renaissance last decade. Strong, independent, easily swayed, under a man's thumb...

OpenID cailcorishev October 20, 2014 8:17 PM  

Why don't the people complaining about being shut down simply make and sell, or give away, the games that they seem to think the world is waiting for but deprived of?

Of course. If you want to make the next Candy Crush Saga, get some books and tutorials on Flash and start developing. Then throw that shit away, pick a real language/platform, and start over. Buy hosting somewhere to host your server. Sign up as a FB developer (free) and release your game as an app. Surround it with ads or set up a charge to play it. Profit!

At no point in that process will anyone ever ask if you're male or female. If you are female, though, you can use that to get media attention. But if you're afraid your vagina will somehow work against you, simply keep it to yourself. Don't put your name or face on your game, and if you need to bring in other developers to work with you on the code/design, use a pseudonym in your emails and chats. I probably don't know the sex of 10% of the coders and developers I've worked with on different projects.

What they really seem to want is for girls to be able to take a few programming classes, be wined and dined by hot new game development startups, be made the belle of the cube farm, and then be interviewed and photographed by the gaming media as stars of the industry. Thing is, that would be guaranteed to happen if any one of them had the talent and put in the work to reach that position more-or-less honestly.

Anonymous The other skeptic October 20, 2014 8:24 PM  

I probably don't know the sex of 10% of the coders and developers I've worked with on different projects.

Bzzzt. Wrong. I would bet it's >> 90% male.

Ohhh, you were unsure about only 10%.

Anonymous The other skeptic October 20, 2014 8:26 PM  

In fact, possessing a vagina means that life's difficulty setting is on low for you.

Anonymous Apollo October 20, 2014 8:36 PM  

Zell - By the way: The ESA denouncing death threats is not a denouncement of GamerGate.

Surprised only one other person pointed this out. Assuming the ESA statement is anti-GamerGate is buying into the Scalzi frame that "GamerGate is only about harassing women", and also assuming that the death threats are only being sent by people on one side of this "debate".

On reading the given excerpt, all one can really conclude from the ESA statement is not that they are anti GamerGate, but that they are anti Death Threat. And on that point I actually agree.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus October 20, 2014 8:49 PM  

John VI: "Lithonius, Your entire comment made me laugh because it is so true. Gamers play to win."

True.

ohn VI: "Vox has mentioned it before. The primary Weapon in the social justice warriors arsenal is shame and social ostracization."

This and what follows is also true.

There is a third weapon that also won't work. It derives from the time-tested tactics of the Tribe, the brains, talent, money and political muscle behind political correctness and the pinkshirts.

You charm or buy your way into the elite of the ethnic or other collective you've decided to exploit and attack, and ally with them against their social inferiors. From then on, with the aid of a traitorous leadership, you exact ever greater concessions from the out-group, even to the point of genetic destruction, but not at the immediate and personal expense of the leadership. They are always able to defer the immediate costs to subordinates, so they play along till they have no subordinates and are powerless.

The gamers play to win, they don't have deferential attitudes, they are already at the social standing that the pinkshirts would like to be able to condemn them to for being uppity... and they don't have a socially isolated political class with the power to sell them out and render their disapproval moot. There are no Kennedy, Bush and Clinton clans to get to; there is no gamers' Supreme Court to pack. Nobody has a mass of loyal subordinates to whom they can defer the immediate costs of concessions that will lead to long-term collective destruction.

I don't care about computer gaming (because chess is a huge time-sucking hobby), but I do like seeing pinkshirts lose, and there's every reason to think they are going to lose this one.

Anonymous The other skeptic October 20, 2014 8:53 PM  

What they really seem to want is for girls to be able to take a few programming classes, be wined and dined by hot new game development startups, be made the belle of the cube farm, and then be interviewed and photographed by the gaming media as stars of the industry.

Having a vagina means never having to do hard work, unless you want to.

Wasn't there a movie about that once? (Had something to do with Al Gore or something.)

Anonymous tiredofitall October 20, 2014 8:57 PM  

"Those young girls may desire the status, but they show absolutely no sign of wanting to actually do the work involved." - Vox

The same as it ever was. Women see men going off to work and assume that the men are having a great old time outside the boring old homestead. When they demand to be included they bitch and whine when they find out work means they have to actually work.


"In fact, possessing a vagina means that life's difficulty setting is on low for you." - The other skeptic

Low difficulty? Try Godmode more like it, no consequences for your screwups and you get to waltz around the world KNOWING the rules don't apply to you.

Anonymous dh October 20, 2014 9:01 PM  

Low difficulty? Try Godmode more like it, no consequences for your screwups and you get to waltz around the world KNOWING the rules don't apply to you.

Well, the point is, that it's always been this way for beautiful women, up to a point. But now, we have basically ugly fat skanks trying to access the same benefits as their beautiful sisters.

Gamers don't care.

Anonymous The other skeptic October 20, 2014 9:15 PM  

Your logic consists of "Brianna Wu's name is Brianna. Brianna Freeman's name is Brianna. Therefore, they must be the same person."

Dude, I have an imaginary vagina and you have hurt my feelings! You are a bad person and should be shunned.

Anonymous Noah B. October 20, 2014 9:18 PM  

Your logic consists of "Brianna Wu's name is Brianna. Brianna Freeman's name is Brianna. Therefore, they must be the same person."

The chinawoman is not the issue!

Blogger Rseven Rocket October 20, 2014 9:25 PM  

Brianna Wu is a skinny version of Erica Cartman. Definitely not believable as a "woman".

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Brianna_Wu

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cissy

Anonymous Shibes Meadow October 20, 2014 9:26 PM  

SFX: [MUSIC CUE] Aaron Copland, "Rodeo"

V.O.: Schadenfreude. It's what's for dinner.

Blogger Retrenched October 20, 2014 9:27 PM  

http://freebeacon.com/blog/gamergate-makes-the-left-uncomfortable-because-gamer-gaters-have-adopted-the-lefts-tactics/

Very interesting, I've noticed that as well, that people are starting to use the lefts tactics against them, with Gamergate being perhaps the biggest example of that.

Anonymous Noah B. October 20, 2014 9:28 PM  

"The issue is: shut up."

Not gonna happen. You might as well have a good cry now and get it over with.

Anonymous Noah B. October 20, 2014 9:31 PM  

GamerGate: in which a manipulative slut is publicly exposed as a lying whore. And somehow that makes national news.

Anonymous Shibes Meadow October 20, 2014 9:37 PM  

Beardsley McTurbanhead: Weak. Try harder. C- See me after class

PS - There is no such thing as "homosexual marriage"

Anonymous Noah B. October 20, 2014 9:47 PM  

It's one thing to say "X is stupid." That's just a baseless assertion. Actually demonstrating the truth of an insult while delivering it is something else entirely. For example, your stupidity is revealed by your inability to articulate anything meaningful, insightful, or clever. That has weight behind it because I not only insulted you, but simultaneously supported my statement in such a manner that even your inferior intellect could comprehend.

Blogger Nate October 20, 2014 9:59 PM  

So... the women complaining about the damsel in distress tropes.. are damsels in distress that need Big Gaming to save them?


Yes...


I won GamerGate with that tweet.

Blogger ajw308 October 20, 2014 10:20 PM  

Whether Wu ends up being ritually tortured and force-fed Ebola before being sacrificed to Cthulhu on an altar made of desert-aged E.T. cartridges...
N.E.S. game cartridges? Aren't those kind of rare and wouldn't building an alter use a lot of them? Was there even an E.T. game for the N.E.S.?

Anonymous tiredofitall October 20, 2014 10:29 PM  

@ ajw308

It's in reference to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus October 20, 2014 10:47 PM  

http://freebeacon.com/blog/gamergate-makes-the-left-uncomfortable-because-gamer-gaters-have-adopted-the-lefts-tactics/

That's all excellent news.

The deferential Tea Party model is as dead as anything can be.

Anonymous Stephen J. October 20, 2014 10:52 PM  

"It's an honor just to have been nominated. But I heard that Stephen uses a Glock."

Must be a different Stephen. If I used a gun at all it would be a Beretta 92F 15-shot pistol, largely because that's the weapon John McClane uses in DIE HARD and it always struck me as greatly cool. Failing that, Browning 9mm with a 13-shot magazine, as I believe that's the sidearm of the Canadian Armed Forces.

Of course, I'd have to get over my acute brontophobia (fear of loud noises) to actually use any given firearm first, so that's all just hot air at the moment. But a man can dream.

Anonymous John VI October 20, 2014 10:54 PM  

As a gamer I just want to say, not only have I PLAYED the et game in question... I still HAVE the ET game in question, and a working Atari 2600 to play it on... ( though I would not, in any way, SUGGEST you play that game. Stick with missile command or asteroids)

Anonymous Noah B. October 20, 2014 10:54 PM  

"If I used a gun at all it would be a Beretta 92F 15-shot pistol, largely because that's the weapon John McClane uses in DIE HARD and it always struck me as greatly cool."

Does that mean you also go into combat barefoot?

Blogger JDC October 20, 2014 11:01 PM  

She had hands as big as Andre the Giant's, and she had an Adam's apple as big as her balls. (Andy)

OpenID cailcorishev October 20, 2014 11:01 PM  

Ohhh, you were unsure about only 10%.

Sorry, I edited that sentence and got it backwards. I meant to say I know the sex of less than 10% of the developers I've worked with. I'm sure the male percentage is well above 90%, but most of them I simply don't know and never had any reason to care.

Anonymous Obvious October 20, 2014 11:21 PM  

Aww, look! She made you angry. :)

Anonymous Jack Amok October 21, 2014 12:12 AM  

To dream of "being game developers" is not at all the same thing as doing the hard work of developing games.

Shit.

I've been in the game industry seven years and I have a folder I could call "the ones we've lost" of co-workers who've left the game industry because it's a psychologically challenging industry to be in.

Pretty much every job is insecure, the whole thing is hit-driven (functionally great games can completely bomb for no very clear reason while other games inexplicably go ballistic), and you find yourself competing with a bazillion other people who all want to make games. People with exceptional skills burn out at a shocking rate. It ain't for the risk-averse, and that describes 95% of women.

Blogger Paul, Dammit! October 21, 2014 12:22 AM  

Jack, to expand on what you said, I dreamed of being a teapot, short and stout, but no matter how hard I tried, one arm was not a handle... and, perhaps unsurprisingly, one arm was not a spout. Making entertainment is not a license to be immune from market forces, amiright?

Luckily for me, while I was dreaming of being a teapot, I learned spherical trigonometry and navigation, and went to sea, you know, in case the whole dream of Being a Teapot didn't work out.

Also, I blame my fork for dashing my dreams of being a male underwear model.

Blogger MidKnight October 21, 2014 12:30 AM  

And over at the polygon. http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/17/6996601/on-gamergate-a-letter-from-the-editor

Love the opening paragraph:

Over the last few months, we've seen many people — some of them friends, some of them colleagues, some of them professional acquaintances — harassed, threatened, bullied for daring to suggest that video games can and should do better.

Amazing passive-egressive oversimplification. Reminds me of a number of conversations from whining wimps where I've replied "If that was all you'd done, you'd have stopped two sentences in and shut up...."

From the very first paragraph, they misrepresent the gamer gate side, and what the SJW's have done and said to piss them off.

Anonymous rho October 21, 2014 12:33 AM  

Pretty much every job is insecure, the whole thing is hit-driven (functionally great games can completely bomb for no very clear reason while other games inexplicably go ballistic), and you find yourself competing with a bazillion other people who all want to make games.

If you're a female developer who wants to make games, go the route Notch went with Minecraft. He made something he wanted to make, and kept working at it. It happened to be very successful, but that was ancillary to his purpose. This is the same route the Dwarf Fortress guys are taking. It can and does work, but you may be more Dwarf Fortress than Minecraft.

If you're a female who wants to be a game developer, that's an easier route. Learn something about game design; make up a few card games with the standard 52-card deck; blog about your work; network with other developers; volunteer for game developer conferences. Eventually, if you can do anything useful at all, you'll see your name in the credits for a game.

You can shortcut this by becoming an Internet Sensation(TM) through massive self-promotion and fomenting drama on social media. It can, and probably will, come back to haunt you. You do not want to be #HashtagFamous.

Re: the original post, in addition to my new "Zero-to-Zoe" scale to judge all developers, I now have a new scale upon which I will now judge all women. Wu is, as she must insist, fully female. On top of that she is very strong and independent, and a crusader for women's issues. Now I shall judge all females on the "Who?-to-Wu" metric.

Anonymous Stephen J. October 21, 2014 12:41 AM  

"Does that mean you also go into combat barefoot?"

Only in skyscrapers against Euro-terrorists who have gone in for exceptional thievery as a career change.

Anonymous Amok Time October 21, 2014 12:50 AM  

" Anyone who really and truly wants to make games will do so, and will not permit anyone to dissuade them. You don't need anyone's permission to be a game developer. You don't need anyone's encouragement. You don't need hugs and a welcome mat. Thanks to the panoply of great tools available, it has never been easier to develop games. "

YES! OF COURSE! Why wring their delicate hands and weep. GO and design your own games. Make it what you will! But, don't try to regulate what others do for their fun.

Gees, like Mayor Bloomberg's awful attempts to take my BIG FRICKIN GULP!

Anonymous rho October 21, 2014 12:53 AM  

By the way, Brianna Wu's signature game looks pretty good to me. Dat ass.

Anonymous dark October 21, 2014 1:19 AM  

Do jurnos capitulate so easly to these people cause they are all of the same tought process and the same school/college environment? Surely all these professionals can't be worried about the whineing of transsexuals and nobody's?

It's like the entire concept of journalism is fundamental broken somewhere no matter the mediums being reported on.

Anonymous rho October 21, 2014 1:24 AM  



Ooh, ooh, new VD posting rule: no Siri transcripts allowed!

Blogger Doorstop October 21, 2014 1:29 AM  

"I am sure you are all aware of the internet troll SJW siren call " What are you? Some sort of nerd who plays video games in your parents basement?" And then they turned around and attacked.... nerds who play videogames in their basements...OOPS"

Very well put, John VI. It's only a matter of time before we see the SJW's complaining that those "losers who can't get laid" aren't consuming enough porn from female directors and erotica authors. If you don't like Fifty Shades then you must be an uber-misogynist!

Anonymous Jack Amok October 21, 2014 2:52 AM  

Luckily for me, while I was dreaming of being a teapot, I learned spherical trigonometry and navigation, and went to sea,

I didn't realize celestial navigation was still important for "going to sea." Well, okay, if my current gig doesn't work out, can you get me signed onto your ship? I know spherical trig, celestial nav, have a BSME, and am becoming pretty good with a 3d printer.


If you're a female who wants to be a game developer, that's an easier route. Learn something about game design

Why not just slew some cleavage around first and then complain about sexism? I mean, what's the objective here, making a successful game, or making a successful excuse? Okay, sure, the actual objective is marrying a guy like Notch, but failing that, fallback #1 is making excuses. Wear something Kardashianesque, and then complain guys just look at your chest.

Anonymous Student in Blue October 21, 2014 3:24 AM  

@rho
By the way, Brianna Wu's signature game looks pretty good to me. Dat ass.

How utterly horrifying. The proportions (face *and* body) give that poor character a hauntingly Uncanny Valley effect.

I've think I've seen something like this before... I might have heard of some sort of show with terrible proportions meant to titillate, which to no one's surprise turned out completely awful in every aspect. (slightly nsfw)

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 21, 2014 3:30 AM  

Beardsley McTurbanhead
...too stupid to be manipulative.


Behold the hypocrisy of the gay-male-feminist laid bare:

Suspect tranny with suspect threats = defend
Attractive woman existing = attack

None are so blind...etc...

Anonymous Discard October 21, 2014 3:30 AM  

I don't play video games, and I don't know any adults who admit to playing video games, so I am completely ignorant of the subject. My prejudice is that a fair proportion of video game players fit the Sitting-in-Mom's-basement-in-your-underwear stereotype, but I'm seeing something else. In a candy-assed society, games are a refuge for a man just as my reading of naval history is. The truth is, I will never command a frigate and any knowledge of the doings of Issac Hull is no more than a way to entertain myself with tales of great deeds. The video game players are no different from me in that respect. I would be killingly outraged if somebody told me I had to read Gertrude Stein instead of Samuel Elliot Morison on my own time.

But I still think that more young men should ride motorcycles.

Blogger Survcon63 October 21, 2014 3:34 AM  

As the mother of a 24 year old gamer, I can testify that these "girls" are probably full of crap.
My son is pretty involved in gaming. I listen, glassy eyed, as he describes mining and making alliances between his 50 or so people with a guild made up of thousands and having to get up at 3 am to attack some other guild or some thing, and all the while I say "awesome" and "cool" and " good job!" like moms are supposed to do. He really is into this stuff.
He also holds down a full time job and a part time second job and has never complained to me about any of it.
The thing about this gamer-gate thing that interested me, was that some girls were griping about the misogyny and discrimination and stuff like that. I could tell them stories about working in a male-dominated field, but they might end up crying afterwards.
Only because after 30 years of working with 99% men I have only once or twice been treated in an inappropriate manner.
So, number 1: My son, and his friends, are nice young men w ho don't care if you are female or male as long as you respect the game,
And 2: Gaming is male-dominated, so grow a pair. Not everything worthwhile or fulfilling is easy.
Damn, I hate feminists.

Anonymous dark October 21, 2014 3:45 AM  

Eve online?

Anonymous dark October 21, 2014 3:48 AM  

Why? Are you a gentleman of more advanced years?.
Gaming is a refuge from pc group think you should really try it with an open mind

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 21, 2014 4:50 AM  

I'm far too old to enjoy World of Tanks as much as I do.

Anonymous Sigyn October 21, 2014 6:10 AM  

Only in skyscrapers against Euro-terrorists who have gone in for exceptional thievery as a career change.

Yippee-ki-yay.

Anonymous clk October 21, 2014 7:10 AM  

So you think this is an issue only in game development.... its a technology industry wide problem.... when ever hiring decisions are being made on anything other than skills and knowledge we have this problem.

Anonymous tonto October 21, 2014 7:49 AM  

what you mean "we", clksabe?

Anonymous Michael October 21, 2014 7:53 AM  

Great, another woe is me shtick from another self-appointed victim.

That there's not many female game developers is only natural since (far) more guys gravitate toward programming. Nobody is at "fault" for this; the only reason it's even a factor is because nimrods with nothing better to do try to politicize it, because they're desperate to force-feed their worthless agenda on gamers.

Anonymous Anonymous Cowherd October 21, 2014 8:06 AM  

absolutely no sign of wanting to actually do the work involved. Anyone who really and truly wants to make games will do so, and will not permit anyone to dissuade them. You don't need anyone's permission to be a game developer.

I want to be a NFL Quarterback with a NFL Quarterbacks' salary.

Yours Sincerly,

Jamarcus Russel

Blogger Nate October 21, 2014 8:31 AM  

"But I still think that more young men should ride motorcycles. "

And why can't young men play video games.... AND ride motorcycles?

Blogger Doom October 21, 2014 9:30 AM  

Seriously? I'm not getting into the debate. It sounds like too much work. As you have suggested, blood, drinking, full moon... part moon either... Don't care.

On the other hand, I think there is already too much political and social intervention into games. Blacks and queers are being shoved in, the hand of control by others, micromanaging my options in the game, speachifying about crap that means less than shit to me. Poop actually has a purpose, though too it has a place. This liberalism has no purpose or place in my world. I just want to play fucking games. I will decide, for myself, what is right and wrong, while being shot at in game. Don't have game command call me or remind me or direct me. I'm busy. Sure, there are young men who think it's all fun and games. As with me, in time, they will... figure things out. But only by making many mistakes. The virtual world is perfect for that.

Anonymous Gimple Von Greesil October 21, 2014 9:35 AM  

And why can't young men play video games.... AND ride motorcycles at the same time? oorah!

Blogger Matamoros October 21, 2014 9:53 AM  

Two good articles on this:
Supporting GamerGate Does Not Make You a Bully

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/10/17/Supporting-GamerGate-Does-Not-Make-You-a-Bully&sa=U&ei=g2RGVLLjCoroggTZjoKoAw&ved=0CAoQFjAC&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEcKfHNIJugrU0G96TaXfL5cDyUew

Prison Sentences for Twitter Trolls Will Only Encourage the Professional Victim Class's Sense of Grievance and Entitlement

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/20/Prison-sentences-for-Twitter-trolls-will-only-encourage-the-professional-victim-class

Anonymous Ymar Sakar October 21, 2014 9:55 AM  

Eve Online and CCP's lead developer is now I believe CCP Seagull, which isn't a fact that supports feminism in the West. It's like Sarah Palin's existence and work supporting the Left, one individual in Iceland can do it, but not the rest of the West's females cooked up in those college rape campuses.

OpenID ymarsakar October 21, 2014 9:57 AM  

Also, it's rather stalker ish and creepy that they keep folders on vulnerable girls, while continuously exposing themselves to other people's pain. That's a kind of unhealthy religious focus.

Anonymous Beardsley McTurbanhead October 21, 2014 10:52 AM  

Space Bunny isn't even attractive.

Blogger Quadko October 21, 2014 11:09 AM  

And isn't she just playing the stereotypical Jane Austin woman, sitting around talking about what men are doing, analyzing what men are doing, wishing they could affect what men are doing, seeing if they can manipulate what men are doing, and waiting to see what men will do?

That looks like a serious case of the "needs permission to act" problem that affects both men and women. The successful men and women I know break beyond that childhood training to be "go getters" and ask "who's going to stop me", but there are more men then women in my list of people doing that.

Anonymous Eli October 21, 2014 11:19 AM  

I have played games with women that don't complain about the "damsel in distress" tropes. Or the sexualization of female characters whether it's Lara Croft or Ivy. It's all rubbish. The only people that complain about that are social justice whores. I refuse to call them warriors. They have no honor.

Blogger CM October 21, 2014 11:55 AM  

I have one thing to say to these women:

STOP SLUT-SHAMING MY AVATAR!

Blogger Misesfan October 21, 2014 1:08 PM  

VD - you need to drop the ban-hammer on McTurbanhead. Besides being a dumb-ass, he isnt contributing jack to this thread.

Anonymous Discard October 21, 2014 2:12 PM  

Nate and Gimple Von Greesil: I must have been unclear. Most of the riders I see are not young men. I've read that the average age for motorcycle owners is now 49. I'm not suggesting that video game players can't ride, only that more of them should. More young men, game players or not, should ride. Occasional brushes with pain and death are good for you.

Anonymous Discard October 21, 2014 2:21 PM  

dark: Were you addressing me? Yes, I am more advanced in years than I care to be, and I have come to see that playing video games is a refuge from the stench of a decaying society. But I won't be taking them up, as I don't feel like being slaughtered every time by the computer adept. And I have my books, my tools, and my motorcycles. And my trusty .22.

Anonymous Student in Blue October 21, 2014 2:48 PM  

VD - you need to drop the ban-hammer on McTurbanhead. Besides being a dumb-ass, he isnt contributing jack to this thread.

He doesn't need to do anything.

Either way, being a dumbass is not a bannable offense, or else Glen McFilthie would've been gone a long time ago. Same thing with being off-topic: a lot of otherwise well-intentioned people would be banned for constantly dragging topics into guns or Catholics vs Protestants.

There are more good reasons why Vox doesn't thoughtpolice dumb opinions. I won't get into them here because there's no point, and I'm not his publicist.

Anonymous WaterBoy October 21, 2014 2:58 PM  

Eli: "Or the sexualization of female characters whether it's Lara Croft or Ivy. It's all rubbish. The only people that complain about that are social justice whores."

Besides, if they did away with that, who would Yaya Han be able to cosplay? Those boobs cost good money, she should be able to show them off.

Anonymous Scooter October 21, 2014 3:01 PM  

Same thing with being off-topic: a lot of otherwise well-intentioned people would be banned for constantly dragging topics into guns or Catholics vs Protestants.

You must be new here. Guns are NEVER off topic, and if I recall, the same goes for the NFL...

Anonymous Scooter October 21, 2014 3:02 PM  

And speaking of guns, why are Kimbers so gay?

Anonymous Beardsley McTurbanhead October 21, 2014 3:08 PM  

If being a dumbass was a bannable offense, Space Bunny would be gone.

Anonymous Turdsley McBeardhead October 21, 2014 3:22 PM  

I are a jeaneis.

Anonymous Turdsley McBeardhead October 21, 2014 3:23 PM  

I can count to free.

Blogger Martin Davies October 21, 2014 3:23 PM  

cailcorishev: "I assume women make up half of all milk drinkers, but I don't see them demanding to shovel 50% of the cow shit."

Actually, as a guy who worked on a Farm as a teenager, I can tell you that Farm Girls do shovel half the shit, also they can drive and fix tractors, herd cattle and are usually pretty good cooks. However, I never met one who was a feminist and they really like boys.

Anonymous Turdsley McBeardhead October 21, 2014 3:24 PM  

I can go poo-poo in the big boy bowel, now. Mama is so prowd of me!

Anonymous WaterBoy October 21, 2014 3:32 PM  

Martin Davies: " I can tell you that Farm Girls do shovel half the shit..."

Yes...but how many of them chose that as a career out of high school, who weren't already born into that life?

The argument that women should make up half of all game programmers because they make up half of all gamers* means that they should also make up half of all milk producers because they make up half of all milk-drinkers...but they aren't exactly clamoring to do so. Why?

*Caveat to this claim is noted several times above.

Anonymous DNW October 21, 2014 3:52 PM  

Reading over these comments it occurs to me that I actually have played a video game or two.

One of them featured flying saucer like objects that passed overhead, or maybe it was spidery monsters that descended from the top of a largely black screen, and you had to shoot them as they dropped bombs toward your moveable cannon or rocket launcher or something. The more of them you destroyed, the faster they traveled and dropped.

A suspicious man might think the game was rigged to make you eventually lose.

I also had a modestly older friend, or maybe good acquaintance, who played a game wherein a stocky little male cartoon figure ran along climbing and leaping over obstacles to the accompaniment of calliope music; and by directing him, you somehow built up points.

The guy, my "friend" not the screen character, found this all very exciting and several times invited me over to his apartment in order to watch and appreciate all the fun he was having. Though, he never actually said what he had in mind beforehand, which apparently was that I function as an audience or witness to his video game playing prowess. Occasionally he would think to offer a beer.

After a couple of sessions I figured out what to expect and declined further opportunities of the sort.

I do clearly recall sitting in a chair bewildered that, as a once more or less normal man of 20 something, he should suddenly derive so much satisfaction from this process. His already pretty well estranged knock-out of a wife, who I had known almost as long as I knew him, stood by equally nonplussed.

Eventually, and after their separation, she and I became pretty good friends. Though not from a mutually shared interest in video games ourselves.

Blogger Danby October 21, 2014 4:17 PM  

@WaterBoy
I've never yet met the man who could actually produce milk, unlike most women I know, so there's that.

More generally,
Damnit, I have to put up with this shit everywhere else, especially at work. I'm not allowed to object, or even allow my opinion to be known. The CEO of my company is a black woman of no discernible talent. She can't even competently be blandly positive, which is all a CEO of a multi-national really needs to do. If I were to say something like "80% of the women in this building actually impede the progress of our work," or "Diversity is our biggest weakness," or "The presence of middle-aged fag hag drama queens makes the workplace substantially less pleasant for every other employee, including the ones they think they are protecting," I would be fired on the spot. Since leftists cannot conceive that anyone intelligent would disagree with them, if I were to take exception to the casual slurs of Christians and conservatives that people casually drop in conversation, it would poison my relationship with my co-workers. Granted I can't really respect them on an intellectual level, but they do know how to do the work. they would never extend the same respect to me.

I've been a gamer since i was a kid. board games, card games, RPGs, and as soon as there was such a thing, computer games. Advent and Star Trek on a DEC printing terminal. Writing my own card and dice games in microsoft BASIC on an Altair S200 bus homebuilt (not mine, sadly). Part of the attraction is that when I'm playing games, I don't have to deal with the bullshit. I don't have to deal with some idiot woman's emotions. The rules are clear.

Now they want me to deal with their bullshit in games as well. fuck them.

And for the numbskulls who want to call me an immature sexually unattractive neckbeard basement dweller, I'm 55, married for 35 years to a very contented woman, father of 11, and I make well north of 100K per year. And I don't even have a basement.

I do have a rather luxurious beard though, in the Assyrian/18th Century Poet style, that yes, does include whiskers on my neck.

Anonymous Beardsley McTurbanhead October 21, 2014 4:46 PM  

Hi, Fail Burton.

Anonymous DNW October 21, 2014 5:14 PM  


"And for the numbskulls who want to call me an immature sexually unattractive neckbeard basement dweller, I'm 55, married for 35 years to a very contented woman, father of 11, and I make well north of 100K per year. "

Doesn't sound as though you lost your wife over it.


"I do have a rather luxurious beard though, in the Assyrian/18th Century Poet style, that yes, does include whiskers on my neck."

Well, as long as you clear some space between the upper neck and collar, most women I know don't seem to mind. I'm convinced a full beard does help in hunting too, as it tends to lessen the amount of light reflecting off your face as you are trying to still hunt.

Course, a pervert, jaw-line beard, is worse than no beard at all.


Blogger Danby October 21, 2014 6:33 PM  

@DNW,
Well, my wife is rather an exception.She's still emotional like most women, and takes things too personally, but she has no time for drama, and has never, even back in high school, hung around with other women. She found their continual need for affirmation and approval exhausting. Their opinions are a matter of literally no concern to her. She's quite capable of laughing at herself. She's also a huge troll and brooks no bullshit from me either, so it works out well.

Blogger Danby October 21, 2014 6:40 PM  

Course, a pervert, jaw-line beard, is worse than no beard at all.

A man's beard can say one of two things; "I have no patience for a beard, so I just shave the damn thing off." or "I dislike shaving"

A beard that says "I spend an hour twice a day keeping my tiny supply of visible facial hair in perfect shape, cause the chicks love it." also says "Disregard that, I suck c***s."

Blogger Nate October 21, 2014 7:33 PM  

"Nate and Gimple Von Greesil: I must have been unclear. Most of the riders I see are not young men. I've read that the average age for motorcycle owners is now 49.

This is a double edged sword... 1... millinials have no money so buying motorcycles is not real easy for them... and 2... crap loads of baby boomers buying harleys.

old men on harleys are literally everywhere... and holy shit is it pathetic.

Anonymous Discard October 21, 2014 11:06 PM  

Nate: Used motorcycles are cheap, 15 years old and 20,000 miles for $2K.

Old farts buying Harleys for their first bike..pathetic is right. It's good that so many of them ride in large groups so they can play Follow the Leader, because they don't know how to avoid trouble by themselves. I recall one 40some year old holding a steady speed for miles, squarely in my blind spot. I saw a monkey brain riding on an empty road dump his big fat dresser in the dirt because he couldn't control the beast. It's vain of me, but one reason I've hung on to the old iron is that I won't be mistaken for a senior beginner.

Blogger Akulkis October 22, 2014 5:28 PM  

As can be expected of any man posing as a female, and demanding that everyone endorse the psychotic view that he is a female, the Borderline Personality Disorder isn't just a little bit of smoldering & smoke.. it's a 3-alarm fire of histrionics (hystrionics???), drama-whoring for the sake of drama-whoring. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a massive drug user on the side, and eventually chooses to be An Hero.

Blogger Akulkis October 22, 2014 5:36 PM  

By the way, Vox, Dani Burton was a man. However, his best work was before he started running around in women's clothes and had his genitalia mutilated. But that didn't turn out so well -- towards the end of his life, he wrote an open letter advising other equally confused men to NOT get their genitals surgically mutilated -- reason #1 being a severely diminished capacity to feel any sort sexual pleasure. He finished by advising that other confused men can express the the feminine components of their personality without turning their entire life into a pathetic farce and destroying their body through ill-advised surgical procedures.

Dani Bunten Berry's's real name (and the name he used when he wrote M.U.L.E.) was Daniel Paul Bunten.

Blogger Akulkis October 22, 2014 5:56 PM  

My friend Quinn told me about a folder on her computer called, “The Ones We’ve Lost.” They are the letters she’s gotten from young girls who dream of being game developers, but are terrified of the environment they see. I nearly broke into tears as I told her I had a folder filled with the same.

Anyone who uses the term "folder" instead of "directory" isn't a programmer who I would trust to write even the simplest 4-operation calculator, and definitely not experienced or informed enough to write any game that I would be interested in playing....or anyone else other than an extremely small slice of society. "Brianna" is a luser who stumbled across some programming concepts, but definitely is not of a true developer's minset.

Blogger Akulkis October 22, 2014 5:57 PM  

mindset*

Blogger Akulkis October 22, 2014 6:02 PM  

You don't understand. Most of the women who are complaining are such special snowflakes that some man has to write the game for them and let the woman put her name to it because she thought of the idea for the game.

And when Fine Young Capitalists volounteered to be ghost-writers exactly as you describe, Chelsea van Valkenburg (alias Zoe Quinn) sabotaged the entire event before it even started.

Blogger Akulkis October 22, 2014 7:14 PM  

Bri Wu is playing the real life version of Depression Quest. Next week she will play the sequel, DQ II - Fame Whore. Followed by DQ III - no one likes me, why?

Just like the "developer" of DQ

Blogger Akulkis October 22, 2014 7:28 PM  

It's Kardashian's ass - it never made it away from alpha.


Any man chasing that bag of lard surely ain't an Alpha...

Blogger Akulkis October 22, 2014 7:30 PM  

Correction. Mister Wu.

Considering all of his drama-whoring, more like Mister Wu-woo-woo!

Blogger Akulkis October 22, 2014 7:40 PM  

Every women I know in the industry is terrified she will be next.

While not impossible to square... I've always found this amusing:

"THEY AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO ME AT ALL"

followed immediately by

"THEY WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE AT ALL"



Also known as:

"Hey! [waving arms] YOU! Stop Looking at meeeeeeeeeee!!!!"

Anonymous An actual human, with empathy October 23, 2014 2:05 AM  

She made a social comment, then got death threats. How can none of you feel at least the slightest bit of empathy for this?

Anonymous Discard October 23, 2014 4:00 AM  

An Actual human, with empathy: I am one of life's losers. I am a White workingman. I played by the rules, got myself some training, went to work every day, drove lawfully, stayed sober, abstain from crime, married a woman and have never strayed. I didn't expect to be rich, did not demand free stuff, just what I earned. But those who call themselves "progressives" saw fit to destroy my home town with immigration. They have seen fit to deny me employment and give the job I earned by my effort, experience, and high score on the civil service test, to a marginally literate Black fellow. White Progressives, of course, do not subject themselves to the rules they impose on others. I hate their guts, and any misfortune that comes their way is fine with me.

Discard, an actual White workingman without the slightest bit of sympathy for "Progressive" vermin.

Anonymous tiredofitall October 23, 2014 5:33 PM  

"She made a social comment, then got death threats. How can none of you feel at least the slightest bit of empathy for this?"

She insulted and belittled an entire section of the populace, and didn't expect for there to be any repercussions? There's a word for that, fucktarded.

And the supposed death threats? I'm not buying it. That is quickly becoming the Left's new "almost raped". Claim you feel threatened and BOOM your opponents are silenced. Except for the fact everyone else is catching on to this new excuse for what it is, utter bullshit.

As to having empathy for any Leftist SJW, I'd sooner feel empathy for the careers and lives they ruin in their ham-fisted attempts to shut down the opposition.

Anonymous oh who cares October 31, 2014 4:29 PM  

Brianna Wu used to be John Flynt, not Bruce Freeman. There is a resemblance but Bruce is much older.

There is a great post out on the Interwebs about what a creeper Flynt was when he was a j-school student at Ole Miss. Apparently he got banned from the offices of the student newspaper.

Wu talked recently about being in the arcade as a child and seeing posters showing women as the reward for game winners, implying that made him feel unwelcome as a girl. But of course, he felt no such thing because he was a boy. In fact I think he stole the rant about the posters from someone else.

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