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Clark's Farewell To Popehat

December 30, 2015 by Clark

A few years ago Ken and Patrick invited me to write at Popehat because we shared a commitment to defending free speech and other virtues of the Enlightenment. While that's still true, it's become clear that our tactics and audiences differ and it makes sense for me to excuse myself from Ken's living room and write elsewhere.

I'll be at a new group blog formed by several e-friends called Status 451.

Meredith L Patterson jokingly pitched it as "He's a conservative Catholic ancap. She's a bisexual, polyamorous Euronerd anarcho-game-theorist. They write blogs!". This is true as far as it goes, but we've also got a politics / law / chess guy, some programmers, a pretend-economist, and more.

Topics will be an eclectic mix of math, politics, architecture (maybe buildings if I'm the one writing the post, maybe software if it's Meredith), tax policy, and so forth. The guiding principles of the blog, to the extent that it has any, are that no topics are beyond the pale, and we aim to discuss things at a systems level instead of object level. E.g. more "here is a thousand year history of the culture war behind gamergate" and less "These are the five people ruining games. Hate them. Now."

A few posts I've got in mind are

  • Disaggregation is next to Godliness
  • Science doesn't work
  • Chain of custody / chain of block
  • The book "Games People Play" and the social justice movement
  • Hunter S Thompson discovers neoreaction (welcome to crab country)

I'd like to thank Patrick and Ken once again for the opportunity to write here, and I hope to see many of you over at Status 451.

Last 5 posts by Clark

  • Clark's Farewell To Popehat - December 30th, 2015
  • The Current Refugee Crisis - November 18th, 2015
  • Top Seven Things I Like About Internet Shame Mobs - July 29th, 2015
  • Gamer Gate vs Anti Gamer Gate A Civil Discussion on Inclusiveness - June 23rd, 2015
  • Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or #Strangeloop vs. Curtis Yarvin) - June 10th, 2015
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  1. Ken White says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:04 am

    Be civil, please. Best wishes to Clark for happy writing at his new blog.

  2. Irrelevant says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:11 am

    Well, Clark was my favorite writer of the core set, but this breakup's both unsurprising and probably for the best. See you in hell at the new blog, Clark!

  3. Dan Weber says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:12 am

    :*

  4. bja009 says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:14 am

    Excellent blog name. See you over there.

    I will miss the frothing rage under your posts here, and the occasional misattributions of your writings to Ken. Alas, no lulz in this world are permanent.

  5. Brian Dunbar says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:21 am

    Clark,

    You've made me install an RSS feeder. Have not had one of those in a while. Will blame any productivity drop on you.

  6. Earle says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:30 am

    Does this mean the funds currently invested in the research and development of a Clarkless RSS feed will be redirected?

    Best wishes Clark on your new web home. Here at the Popehat peanut gallery we can look forward to smoother panty lines as our undergarments don't get in a bunch quite as often.

  7. Anonymous says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:40 am

    Haven't been here long enough to know what happened but I am sorry to hear these collaborators have an issue that has led to a parting of the ways,

    Good wishes to all.

  8. Fred says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:49 am

    Now the Clarkhat moniker will just be confusing. I embrace change, but I eschew confusion. I'm torn.

    Well wishes.

  9. Patrick Non-White says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:52 am

    Endeavor to persevere.

  10. Ryan K says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:53 am

    Well, I'd say you'll be missed, but I'll be reading the new blog and won't be missing out on anything. Keep being interesting.

  11. GeoffreyK says

    December 30, 2015 at 9:53 am

    Giving in to the asshats that wanted a way to filter out the 'Clark' posts, eh? 'Tis a pity! I'll guess they'll just make a permanent switch to complaining about Marc's posts instead…

    I rarely agreed with you, but your posts challenged my worldview and I generally learned something new, so I'll miss your inclusion on this site. I'll at least throw the new site into rotation for a while and see how it goes. Best of luck!

  12. Daran says

    December 30, 2015 at 10:02 am

    …a pretend-economist…

    Is there any other kind?

  13. Dictatortot says

    December 30, 2015 at 10:03 am

    Best of luck! People can say what they like about Clark's tenure, and often with reason … but anyone should be proud to have the fierce detractors that he amassed. If such folks hated me even half as much, It'd say nothing bad whatsoever about me, and much that's good.

  14. xtmar says

    December 30, 2015 at 10:12 am

    I agree with you that you seem to have two different audiences, so it is perhaps for the best. However, I have two closing thoughts for your time at Popehat.
    1. I hope you retain the ClarkHat moniker.
    2. I look forward to your screed/rant on the Best Made Axe Co. that you promised on Twitter a while ago.

  15. David Byron says

    December 30, 2015 at 10:24 am

    Good luck! We're all counting on you.

  16. Frank Ch. Eigler says

    December 30, 2015 at 10:41 am

    By the way, did that Clark / Randi debate ^W civil discussion ever take place?

  17. Craig says

    December 30, 2015 at 11:09 am

    Clark's writings here added a different element to the mix. Sometimes his articles were interesting, but lately I've been getting less and less from them. I don't think I'll follow the new blog, but I wish him and his fellow conspirators well. I'll take this as a final opportunity to thank him again for turning me on to China Miéville's The City and the City, which, despite the author's obvious Stalinism (the organization called Breach in the novel is an obvious analog for a political secret police, yet in the end it turns out they're the good guys!), is one of the most interesting SF novels I've come across in a long time.

    As I understand it, Popehat has always been intended as a group effort; nevertheless, Ken has always been the heavy hitter and the writer who really makes it worth reading.

  18. daniel says

    December 30, 2015 at 11:11 am

    THIS IS NOT WHAT I AM USED TO. CHANGE IS UNCOMFORTABLE AND TROUBLESOME.

    But good luck anyway, Clark

  19. Joe says

    December 30, 2015 at 11:23 am

    My politics didn't line up with Clark's very often, but I always found him a refreshing mixup in the Popehat stew. Best of luck.

  20. princessartemis says

    December 30, 2015 at 11:24 am

    Good luck to you! I've appreciated your different views and way of viewing here, so I'll check out your new place.

  21. Mike Adamson says

    December 30, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    Bye Clark

  22. Aaron says

    December 30, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    I'll miss your posts here, Clark. You were always argumentative and refreshing.

  23. Troutwaxer says

    December 30, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    Never fear Clark, I will be commenting at your new blog!

  24. Patrick Non-White says

    December 30, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    By the way, did that Clark / Randi debate ^W civil discussion ever take place?

    No. Perhaps it will on Twitter, or at Clark's new site.

  25. Hammish says

    December 30, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    Good luck, and thanks for all the lulz.

  26. Penfold says

    December 30, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    I hope we are all able to govern ourselves accordingly over Clark's farewell from Popehat.

    I don't comment often (usually because by the time i get to saying something, someone has already said it and probably better than I could have), but Clark's posts added to Popehat, even if I did not necessarily agree with what he posted, so I will miss Clark and his hat.

  27. Sad Panda says

    December 30, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    Don't let the door…

    Science doesn't work

    Ohh, that I've got to read!

  28. Dan says

    December 30, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    Troll on, you crazy diamond.

  29. Dan Audy says

    December 30, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    Hopefully this move will reverse the trajectory of your posts from the last couple years so that they return to being a fascinating look at a different world view from their current trollishness.

  30. Wesley says

    December 30, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    Clark:

    As much as I've disagreed with you on a variety of social topics, I was entertained by many of the things you've written here, and I wish you the best on your future endeavors.

  31. Brian Z says

    December 30, 2015 at 2:31 pm

    "Agitate! Agitate! Agitate!"

    Good luck, Clark.

  32. GreenW says

    December 30, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    It feels like a passing of the guard, with new contributors coming in and Clark moving on. I am usually an observer, rather than a commenter, but can't let Clark go without saying a fond farewell.

    I have found your posts to be an essential seasoning to the pope-hat feast. While I rarely agree with the full extent of your posts, they almost unfailingly give me something to think about, and reveal sides of a debate I am rarely exposed to otherwise (internet being the natural echo chamber it is, unless you pay great care to diversity in your sources).

    That said, something did feel a little 'off' in the last 12 months or so, and I suspect setting out on a fresh new venture might revitalize a spark that felt missing this last year. I certainly look forward to seeing where Status 451 takes us, although whether it finds a permanent home on my already full home-page remains to be seen…

    So thanks again for the many interesting posts and topics raised, and thanks to Ken for sharing his space so freely with you. Now looking for great things from both sites in the new year!

  33. Alex says

    December 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    Good luck, and see you over at the new place. Now I have one more blog to track. :)

  34. Joe Dokes says

    December 30, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    So long and thanks for all the fish.

  35. Sal Allende says

    December 30, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    try not to go all "race scientist" at your new blog, Clark!

  36. jdh says

    December 30, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    I'll miss you (Clark) here, but will certainly visit over there.

  37. Windypundit says

    December 30, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    Clark, I loved your early indie work, but your recent posts seemed like a cheap attempt to appeal to the masses with warmed-over NRX-derived pap, and now the new website comes across as you just plain selling out and abandoning your early fans. It's like I don't even know you any more.

  38. Patrick Non-White says

    December 30, 2015 at 6:20 pm

  39. Matt says

    December 30, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    @Patrick Non-White:

    Endeavor to persevere.

    We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union.

    @Clark:

    Good luck!

  40. hamilton says

    December 30, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    Damn it. You could always just comment at the Hampersand, until they subpoena you. We're way more accepting of a-holes than they are here. And we love Ken and this place.

    Unless you're really Epi in disguise.

    Good luck Clark.

  41. Clarkhat says

    December 30, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    My first post is live.

    State Machines and the Machines of State

    FWIW.

  42. Richard says

    December 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    @Clarkhat:

    I really liked your idea of using the four cardinal virtues when arguing on the Internet.

    I hope that you can stay true to that principle, even when your opponents don't.

    Best of luck at Status 451.

  43. Ryan says

    December 30, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    Gosh, what a development. I'm relieved to have this one last opportunity to say I'd like to invite you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

  44. Dave says

    December 31, 2015 at 12:29 am

    False advertising, man!
    Everything that site serves comes with the 200 or 304 status.

    Also, doesn't default to https. (and the cert it serves if you go to it yourself is for *.wordpress.com)

  45. NI says

    December 31, 2015 at 10:13 am

    Will you be writing about ponies?

  46. wumpus says

    December 31, 2015 at 11:13 am

    ""He's a conservative Catholic ancap. She's a bisexual, polyamorous Euronerd anarcho-game-theorist. They write blogs!"."

    Polyamory is wrong! Make it "polyphilia" or "multiamory" already.

  47. Lagaya1 says

    December 31, 2015 at 11:25 am

    It should have happened May 24, 2015, in my opinion.

  48. Molly says

    December 31, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Best wishes, Clark. I learned a lot from most of your contributions, even when they made me want to pitch something breakable at the wall.

  49. Ray Ovak says

    December 31, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Damn, and I just installed a safe-space filter to protect me from threatening speech. Now I feel like Condi Rice, circa 1992. Must redefine my ideological enemies, again! So exasperating.

  50. Patrick Non-White says

    December 31, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    You know where to go for what you love, Ray. No one's holding you against your will.

  51. Ken White says

    December 31, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    We aim to create a safe space, even for sock puppets.

  52. ivraatiems says

    December 31, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    @Patrick There's ponies out there. You can't just expect us to leave. We're not protected.

    Clark, it's been… interesting. Having watched the way your posts have changed over the past few years, I'm curious to see where your new blog will take you.

  53. Jesus says

    December 31, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    I think the real question is, what will this do to the Popehat brand?

  54. Jesus says

    December 31, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    Also, I really look forward to the "Science is broken" article. I'm in med school and the stories I could tell would leave you mildly depressed and not at all surprised. When I was in the Army I developed a hatred for all things corporate speak, and medicine is full of the corp speak garbage. "Best practices" "Evidence based" "Standard of Care" I mean for fucks sake we even have patients fill out customer satisfaction surveys after they visit the ER nowadays. I was literally required to use the phrase "I will take excellent care of you" because getting a rating of excellent was so fucking important to these assholes. "Excuse me blood-covered and violent drunk, but did you feel your care today was poor, fair, good, very good, or excellent?" Not to mention a lot of this evidence-based shit is just based on cherry picked studies funded by pharmaceutical companies to push drugs while they are still on patent. Anyway, it all sucks, so I decided to get into the system in order to prevent me and mine from getting fucked over by the system. I forgot where I was going with this.

  55. Earle says

    January 1, 2016 at 12:12 am

    Hey Zeus,

    Nice rant, there doesn't have to be a destination for you to have a journey.

  56. Arilou says

    January 1, 2016 at 6:21 am

    How can one be a catholic ancap anyway?

  57. HandOfGod137 says

    January 1, 2016 at 8:42 am

    How can one be a catholic ancap anyway?

    Clark is perfectly capable of holding any number of mutually contradictory and ridiculous positions simultaneously. Essentially because his intention is to encourage outrage by trolling. I used to think he genuinely was looking for debate and discussion, but then I read his piece on atheists:

    https://www.popehat.com/2013/08/23/three-meanings-of-the-word-rights-atheists-are-confused/

    Wherein, after the application of considerable pressure, Clark finally admitted that he was basing his opinion of all those who choose not to believe in deities on a sample-size he described as follows:

    I'd estimate that it's around two dozen over the last twenty years.

    https://www.popehat.com/2013/08/23/three-meanings-of-the-word-rights-atheists-are-confused/

    Which was the exact point I stopped regarding him as arguing in good faith. And is especially ironic given that he has subsequently berated blog commenters for their lack of scientific knowledge on Twitter.

    I don't know if the current flirtation with racism with his new besties Weev and Vox Day are part of some super-ironic attack on the "Cathedral", but I'm sure all will be made clear at his new blog. As part of some hyper-prolix 17-part epic on NRx and how to knit your own assault weapon after civilization crumbles.

  58. Steve Simmons says

    January 1, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    Thanks, Clark. You sometimes pissed me off, but you always made me think.

  59. Jhanley says

    January 1, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    Happy new year, everyone.

  60. Owesome says

    January 1, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    Words cannot express how I feel about this development.

    I hope you get the audience you deserve.

  61. Nigel Declan says

    January 2, 2016 at 12:46 am

    Clearly, the ponies got to Clark. Those damn, dirty ponies.

  62. Patrick Non-White says

    January 2, 2016 at 10:26 am

    I hope you get the audience you deserve.

    Don't worry. We will.

  63. LJU3 says

    January 2, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    I will miss Clark, but I will REALLY miss people losing their minds in response to him. Best of luck to you, sir.

  64. spinetingler says

    January 2, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    God Bless Us, Everyone.

  65. SIV says

    January 2, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    Jesus says

    December 31, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    I think the real question is, what will this do to the Popehat brand?

    See Chipotle

  66. krkeegan says

    January 4, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    Sad to see you go. I doubt I ever agreed with anything you wrote or enjoyed any of your opinions. I did however appreciate the effort you put into it. I think you have made me more tolerant of views I disagree with.

    Good luck in your travels. I hope I stumble into your work again.

  67. Piper says

    January 5, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    Farewell Clark! I may not agree with your politics and political slant, but I always appreciated the articles and the humor along with them! Best of luck!

    -Piper

  68. eddiejc1 says

    January 5, 2016 at 7:38 pm

    Sorry to see you leave Clark, but I hope that you are still friends with Ken and Patrick.

  69. tern says

    January 6, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    I will miss Clark – even if I didn't agree with him, he always made me think. And in my mind, he has the claim to the best post ever written at Popehat: Burn the Fucking System to the Ground.

  70. b says

    January 7, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    Awww… I've been offline during the holidays, but I spared Clark a thought the other day, thinking that it was nice to have him on this site, as one keeps an exotic creature conveniently in a terrarium for an occasional viewing

    Anyway, good luck.

    (And, honestly, please find yourself an editor, Clark!)

  71. Grifter says

    January 8, 2016 at 8:14 am

    I somehow missed this post until today. Clark's probably gone on to greener pastures and generally ignored me anyway, but I'll say it regardless:

    Good luck Clark!

    I always enjoyed reading your posts in at least some way, and I always liked your avatar. Best of luck on your new site, which I'm now going to go visit.

    ETA: Also, I do hope this doesn't mean any personal relationships have changed; I hope all of the Hosts are as much friends as they've ever been (because I don't know how much friends the various Hosts have ever been).

  72. David C says

    January 12, 2016 at 11:26 am

    I totally missed this at the time (probably a combination of end-of-the-year stuff going on and the site acting up – for a while I was only seeing new articles by using links from Twitter) but I'm sorry to see you go, and wish you well at your new blog site.

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