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[–]Topyka2| Burn Disneyland Down 159 ポイント160 ポイント  (14子コメント)

This is like Ned Stark confessing his "crimes" before getting beheaded anyway.

[–]Faolinbeankilljoy[S] 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (2子コメント)

i died at this

[–]vetch-a-sketch/ complainarchist 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So did Ned.

[–]Rev1917-2017Death to all who stand in the way of freedom for working people 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Dude spoilers! I haven't seen Lord of the Rings yet!

[–]cool_and_nicepre-op post-anarchist 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Snape kills Dumbledore

[–]Admiral_Nobeard 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

But the USSR survives, right?

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    [–]NominalismIsASpookBurn it all down till the sun burns out too! 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Uhhh...

    [–]mazer_rack_emRosa was a Maoist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    you realize this isn't /r/FULLCOMMUNISM right?

    [–]jonathan_rossMarxist Christian 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Uhhhh who are you and why do you have my name?

    [–]red_philo[and political] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sort of. Did you see Red Dawn?

    [–]FlamingMax 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ripped from the final part of Nineteen-Eighty Four?

    [–]-Enkara-BASH THE FASH! 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I'd much rather see /r/@ die on it's feet but it's not just my call I guess.

    [–]Cynical_Ostrich 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Very succinct and straight forward. This should be posted anywhere and everywhere so everyone understands the massive hypocrisy and bias the admins have been putting towards this sub.

    [–]-feghoot- 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nothing but respect for how the mods have handled this shitstorm.

    [–]KropotkinZombiePostleft Nihilist 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    This needs to be posted far and wide so the admins don't get away with their gaslighting.

    [–]BMRGould 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Agreed, I linked it over on /soc

    [–]NimbleJack3 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    The old @C shouldn't even be a desirable book. It's full of unsafe recipies the author has since regretted printing. At worst you'll hurt nobody but yourself.

    [–]vetch-a-sketch/ complainarchist 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The book linked here was Recipes for Disaster, CrimethInc's 2004 publication. You're thinking of the 1971 original.

    [–]DumpsterPancakes 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The new version of the anarchists cookbook is pretty fucking great though. It's published by See Sharp Press in Tucson AZ. The first half is pieces on what it means to be anarchist, what we want, etc. It advocates for nonviolence the whole way through and had a section on what we know does and doesn't work in protests, campaigns, etc.

    Then finally it is a literal cookbook, giving vegetarian and vegan recipes to feed small and gigantic groups, and some helpful said that Food Not Bombs has learned over the decades

    [–]NimbleJack3 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I didn't know there was a newer, saner edition. Thanks for the info! I've edited my post to say "the old @C".

    [–]eisagi 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    What does this mean for advocacy of violence against private/public property? E.g. keying the homophobic bus? Is that against reddit rules? Is it also considered an explicit call for violence?

    [–]CommonLawlflippantist 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just ask yourself this: Is the inanimate thing I'm advocating violence against more highly-valued by mainstream liberal society than human rights and lives are? Because the answer is always "yes," exercise caution.

    [–]Sir_Cuitry 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes, please clarify on whether or not 'violence' against property is considered 'violence'.

    [–]living_in_bad_faith- anarchist academic 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Discussing it would simply be reporting on an event that has happened.

    the homophobic bus got keyed, which is funny and awesome in my personal opinion.

    Advocacy might cross the line, considering how propertarian most people are, but I think so long as its explicitly clear you aren't calling for people to be harmed it should be alright.

    I heard that homophobic bus got smashed up in the middle of the night, when no one was around, which sounds pretty clever to me.

    [–]living_in_bad_faith- anarchist academic 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Excellent decision. If a disclaimer of this type(plus rigorous enforcement, I'm sure) is sufficient for the reactionary right, it seems only fitting that it be sufficient for our purposes as well.

    [–]TotesMessenger 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    [–]libertarian2206/reading leftist books 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Ugh that fucker is in the drama thread trying to seem "moderate" so he can try his coup here. Bastard a dirty liberal, so love him as such

    https://youtu.be/GqNxne97ubc

    [–]CommonLawlflippantist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Once I was young and impulsive

    I wore every conceivable pin

    Even went to the socialist meetings

    Learned all the old union hymns

    But I've grown older and wiser

    And that's why I love Deng Xiaoping

    So love me, love me, love me, I'm unrinsable

    [–]AnonSocialist 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just to let everyone know, PK is deleting all comments that don't support this. Their consensus is built on censorship. Which, ironically, would make them pretty much what the admins want.

    But, we all know PK/Jack only does whats best for themselves. If it doesn't work to build the pathetic cult they imagine around themselves they will use reactionaries, liberals, and admins to try to make it disappear.

    Either way, the mods and users of r/Anarchism have the full support of r/socialism, r/latestagecapitalism and r/fullcommunism against the brigading of certain people looking to use reaction as a vehicle for their own goals.

    [–]errrrico| can memes exist without a state? 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Awesome to see such a coherent and cohesive post making clear our policies. There's not way to get the banned moderators back but by making this policy and sticking to it as long as the admins accept it. I suggest leaving this stickied for a while, maybe even putting a link to it in the sidebar, and also messaging the admins to let them know.

    [–]A_FR_O_Z_E_NDMMakes Kropotkin look like Pol Pot 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    No, you can not advocate for bombing, shooting, or punching anyone.

    Since we're dealing with liberals here, does this extend to "violent" acts like tipping over trash cans, breaking windows, and graffiting cop cars? I long ago gave up on expecting hard and fast guidelines from the admins, but I was wondering if this has been clarified anywhere.

    [–]Ilbsll🏴 No Gods, No Masters 🏴 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Honestly, I'm not really sure.

    I also don't know how the admins would feel about advocating for airstrikes in Syria and other forms of state violence/murder, but I can guess.

    Liberals have tunnel vision when it comes to these things. There's little self-awareness or critical thought behind their reactions, it seems.

    [–]mypersonnalreader 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I also don't know how the admins would feel about advocating for airstrikes in Syria and other forms of state violence/murder, but I can guess.

    State sanctioned violence is always legitimate. After all, it's legal...

    /s

    [–]LegendxFundz, black anarchist 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What other large anarchist forums are there on the web? Preferably something decentralized... If there is no such thing, perhaps we need to consider starting it up

    [–]vetch-a-sketch/ complainarchist 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There are several bespoke anarchist and leftist forums on the web. Just not many with the same kind of draw to curious liberals just beginning to radicalize as you'll get from being on a hub like reddit.

    [–]BashTheAltRight/ gun control is for weeping liberals 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    0ch.org and revleft. then there's new forum like raddit.me.

    [–]cristoper 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Hamjam5 was removed for approving a 600+ page book through the mod queue that has no recipes for anything like a molotov cocktail, and is indeed easily available in public libraries and bookshops across the world

    This, particularly, seems like an obvious and verifiable overstep/mistake by the admins. Do you know if they are willing to reconsider?

    [–]MrFunction 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If they banned for that, they banned with either no verification or no concern for whether or not their claim was true. Either way, there's no way they'd actually reconsider. They have no reason to, they have pretty much all the power in this situation. Thing is, even with this overstep being clearly verifiable, best we could do is appeal to the rest of reddit, and something tells me that wouldn't actually help much.

    [–]GaussWanker 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    BTF is back on the menu? Good.

    Have the admins had anything to say on the "Just Shoot them" hypocrisy? Or whether they actually checked to see if the book had what they claim it had? (Since we all know it didn't)

    [–]FuckYeahKropotkin 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    We've clarified our position and what we mean by the term, yes.

    [–]GaussWanker 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Frankly, I doubt that's going to be enough.

    It's like explaining something to a child, until you can get them to repeat back that they understand what you mean, they haven't really got it.

    [–]FuckYeahKropotkin 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well they won't be able to say we didn't try.

    [–]darlantan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Got some real good photos of where the goalposts are to point at next time someone checks and find that they've "always been there" in a more situationally-convenient place.

    Not that I expect the admins to bat an eye when confronted with proof that they're being shits and changing the standard as it suits them, but at least it's something for more honest people to take note of.

    [–]vetch-a-sketch/ complainarchist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Or whether they actually checked to see if the book had what they claim it had? (Since we all know it didn't)

    There's a molotov diagram on page 144 of the book with partial instructions in the caption.

    [–]Komrade_Pupper'Cause baby, I'm an Anarchist, You're a spineless Liberal. 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What constitutes as a diagram, because, as far as I'm concerned, any out right picture of a molotov cocktail is pretty self explanatory and could be considered as such.

    [–]vetch-a-sketch/ complainarchist 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's a black-and-white, unlabeled cross-section.

    You're not wrong. Molotovs are so simple I could learn how to make one by reading the mood.

    [–]FiIthy_Communistbut filthier -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think it's got the added bonus of the styrofoam (or was it dish detergent?) trick in it though. That's a bit more than a picture.

    I haven't seen it myself though.

    [–]Bab5crusade 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Solidarity! My anarchist comrades!

    [–]BMRGould 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Solid post.

    [–]BashTheAltRight/ gun control is for weeping liberals 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    can we say ACAB or FTP?

    good job mods for keeping this place clean of assholes. <3 you all.

    [–]CommonLawlflippantist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think either of those could possibly be construed as a call to violence. The first is a bland statement of fact; the second is the only reasonable response to the first. I'm sure you're going to get reported by a bunch of maliciously-compliant alt-righters acting like you mean literally fuck them, though.

    [–]SphinxFucker 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Shit /u/Faolinbean when did you become a mod? Or am I just really out of the loop?

    [–]Faolinbeankilljoy[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Heyy! Mod elections have been going this past week in meta, I was added yesterday along with a few others. Don't worry, not too far out of the loop :D

    [–]SphinxFucker 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Oh good lol, the commune still running strong? I don't think my WhatsApp is working rn otherwise I'd ask there lol

    wish I was more active! I should start making content again...

    [–]Faolinbeankilljoy[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It is, and you should! it's more of a laid back affinity group now anyways

    I agree bc your content was the best

    [–]SphinxFucker 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    How so? What do you guys do? If you're just an affinity group who am I meant to give my content to? :P

    [–]Faolinbeankilljoy[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    To the people of [Your Location Here]! The online commune as you know was a bit like herding narcoleptic kittens. It works much better now as a support system to further our own actions locally.

    and sharing content with us gives the resulting ego boost the personal touch, like only karma can't give you

    [–]ExteriorFlux 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is well written.

    [–]d_rudy 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ugh, the scrutiny sucks. I'll miss being able to run my mouth on here, but I guess we probably shouldn't be doing that online anyway.

    For clarification, though: violence often comes up as a debate topic around these parts. Is a theoretical discussion about violence considered a call for violence, provided it is sufficiently hypothetical?

    [–]Citrakayah 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Explicit Calls to Violence - No, you can not advocate for bombing, shooting, or punching anyone. Remember, inciting violence is against reddit's rules. You can advocate for bashing a fascist, because bashing can include verbally telling off fascists. You can also advocate for self defense against fascists (refer to the point about self defense though). Posts/comments that call for violence will be removed. Posters are liable to be banned.

    Does discussing the ethics/morality of such actions count, if you aren't actually saying "you should do this?"

    [–]red_philo[and political] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Discussion of ethics I suspect would be fine, so long as it stays theoretical.

    [–]_metamythical 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Solidarity comrades.

    [–]gnuworldorder 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Please don't ban me for posting r/gundeals or r/ghostgun or r/guns

    [–]BashTheAltRight/ gun control is for weeping liberals 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    [–]Ilbsll🏴 No Gods, No Masters 🏴 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Worst that will happen is removal of the comment, if anything. It's only because of the scrutiny r/@ is under at the moment. I mean really, a mod was suspended for a single obscure reference in a rather obscure book. We can either comply and try to meet that absurd standard, or we can let the cards fall where they may and potentially lose a large community. But that's a discussion for the meta.

    [–]I_Hate_Disco 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Very reasonable.

    [–]100dylan99FASCISMUS DELENDA EST 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh, this is good, I guess I should remove my meta post then.

    Thank you mods, yall are all great! Even as this ship is (hopefully not) sinking you're still trying your best! I'd give gold if it didn't go to a bunch of shit eaters.

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      [–]Faolinbeankilljoy[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      As I told you in mail,

      Proliferating Arms Manufacturing Material - There are many channels through which you can acquire the Anarchist's Cookbook or similar works to learn how to manufacture weapons. r/Anarchism IS NOT ONE SUCH CHANNEL.

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        [–]Civilityisgolden 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        literal collaboration intensifies

        [–]egomosnonservoͼγᴃᴣᴚᴘᴨᴎκ -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I fucking hate the pathetic defeatism is these comments. You give up before the fight is even over.