As MGTOW works its way into mainstream culture, all the old narratives are being dusted off and given a new, shiny finish. You know all the greatest hits by now. We are all sad , lonely men who could never get laid and want to blame the wymenz for our failure, lack of direction or general lack of appeal.

In light of that , I just want to reiterate what is completely obvious to most people on this board. The more aggressive comments on here come from men who are in the "anger" phase of what is essentially a grieving process for the death of a narrative which has been so central to their lives; that our value in society is exclusively linked to how we fill the traditional roles of a father and chivalrous mate. For a time this was a comforting fairy tale but now , not only are we not interested in becoming objects of comfort and security for women but also, mainstream culture has completely devalued these roles so there is no carrot left (especially once getting laid loses it's magical appeal) just a bunch of sticks.

That is all to say that the initial anger is completely understandable. However most (MGTOW) people I have spoken to , at my age (mid 30's), have come to the acceptance phase in this process (Denial , Anger, Bargaining , Depression , Acceptance) . That means that while we will continue to speak rationally about our experiences with women, we have a very clear understanding of what we want in life so romance has become a peripheral issue which we talk about , mainly , in order to help others out who are currently where we once were

This silent majority is obviously not going to post too often or have much to say except in response to questions or concerns. We are able to have very honest , clear interactions/relationships with women and keep it within the boundaries which we are comfortable with. This would be considered empowering if we were women but since we are not it is often considered a "misogynistic" or hateful attitude.

However , far from hating women we are either somewhat indifferent or , in my case, very affectionate and loving towards women. We treat them with far more equality than white knights or red pillers because we simply regard them as fellow humans who experience life on the same planet as we do. Rather than expressing paternal instincts or desperately chasing their approval, we treat women as we would any other person. Understanding precedes empathy and by gaining more knowledge about underlying motivations we can extend more empathy to individuals but are wary of false narratives because we know, first hand , how poisonous these myths are to personal growth . Clarity allows us the freedom to have real relationships rather than ones predicated on usury or mutual misunderstanding (though I would submit that women understood us far better , by default , than we understood them before we started this journey).

So any anger you may feel today will dissipate and turn into a form of true acceptance which cannot be gained but by going through this somewhat painful process. Ironically, we are the logical end product of feminist ideology and should be applauded by them for stepping outside of traditional gender roles rather than being subject to ad hominem attacks which really amount to desperate and futile attempts to weaponize shame. We will continue to point out hypocrisy where we see it but in the end , love women in the same way we love any other human being; we simply do not over value, objectify or coddle them.

Rant over, but please keep two things in mind. Firstly , if you are willing to go through the pain of losing a comfortable illusion there is a lot of hope on the other side in the form of becoming a truly self-actualized person. Secondly , the easiest way to find happiness in this life (in addition to finding meaningful work/activities/pursuits) is to love and be loved by as many people as you possibly can and its best not to exclude half the population from this pool.

Good luck out there , please be careful in every way. In the immortal words of Chris Rock "Life is long , especially if you make the wrong decisions".