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Back before the election, a conspiracy emerged on the internets involving John Podesta, a pizza restaurant, a handkerchief and a supposed pedophile ring. A conspiracy we now know as PIZZAGATE. That conspiracy was created and spread by denizens of 4chan’s /pol/ message board as part of a campaign to “meme” Donald Trump into the presidency. Back before that, they engineered the absurd conspiracy known as “Gamergate,” an elaborate conspiracy involving pretending that their fears of women stealing their video games was somehow an assault on “ethics in games journalism.”

Now, the trolls over at 4chan have a new goal! And it is to “meme” far-right (now former) National Front leader Marine Le Pen into becoming the president of France — and to “meme” centrist Emmanuel Macron out of it. Macron is currently favored to win, and they’re getting a tad frantic, because he does not hate brown people and Jewish people enough for their taste. Having the daughter of a famous Holocaust denier become president would be a major coup for these “anons,” because they are terrible and very, very anti-Semitic, to the point of absolute freaking derangement.

BUT ONE OF THEM HAS A PLAN! And this plan is to spread a rumor that Macron is having an elicit affair with his step-daughter. Through memes. The first seed was planted Monday on 4chan, and discovered by Buzzfeed’s Ryan Broderick.

Said “anon” wrote:

We need to stop this creep Macron from cucking up Europe, Le Pen is France’s, and by extension, Europe’s, last hope. We’ve got two weeks to wipe that Rothschild-smile off his face – and the only thing that can bring him down is a big EMOTIONAL scandal that turns him into the enemy of the left.

The left loves him because he wifed up his old teacher, Brigitte, who is like 30 years older than him, it plays into their “muh stronk, older woman can get hot young toy boys”-fantasy. Brigitte has got a 30 year old daughter from a previous marriage Tiphaine Auziere. Wouldn’t it be funny if it got out that Macron had engaged, or tried to engage in improper conduct with the young (arguably) hot daughter of his strong semi-senile wife in the past – that his wife is a woman scorned, but hush money from (((the establishment))) was doused on the matter to keep it a secret. (that last part about the hush money might be a stretch, but hey)

There have already been allegations about Macron being a closeted homosexual so the idea that he is a sexual pervert is already planted in the peoples’ heads…people might buy it and that would taint him into oblivion.

Well what do I know anons, I’m just a Swedecuck grasping for straws here but something must be done in these coming two weeks and this is the best angle I came up with for now, the frog-anons would obviously have to help spread this in frog.

Fledgling plan: MEMES and articles hammering home that Macron is a PAWN of the big banks and a WHITE MALE PATRIARCHAL PERVERT! French anons can help translate and spread in appropriate places.

The charming post was, naturally, accompanied by the following meme:

Since then, there are already people on Twitter trying to spread the rumor themselves, in hope of getting it to take off:

On the same thread, there is a link to a YouTube video including instructions on how to “meme” Macron.

If this is anything like the Pizzagate situation, we can next expect the rumor to pop up on subreddits like r/The_Donald, and then later in some YouTube rants, and then finally on Infowars.com. Soon, there will be people on CNN debating whether or not this theory has any grounding in reality, despite the fact that it is obviously just something some idiot just pulled out of their ass. That is how these things spread.

They start with a bunch of disingenuous trolls desperate to get their way, and then spread to people who are wacky enough to earnestly believe the rumor. Hell, they will often even acknowledge that it started as a 4chan troll, but will then insist that there is still “some truth” to it. This is, historically, just what happens when 4chan makes shit up. It happened the same way with their #EndFathersDay hoax — to the point where even though they knew they made it up, many “anons” on the site continued to insist that it was a real thing that feminists were doing.

This is the way they operate, and it is oddly — and unfortunately — extremely effective. Because while they are insincere in their creation of these rumors, while they are obvious lies, they are desperately sincere in their reasons for pushing them. It’s almost, dare I say, a strange sort of idealism. Those who follow their lead are equally sincere in their desire to search for conspiracies and rumors to bolster their deeply held beliefs.

Now, while these “anons” believe they are tapping into a form of magic (no, really) — none of this is really especially different from traditional propaganda — except instead of posters or essays or flyers, they’re using memes. The goal is two-pronged — both meant to tap into some deeper fear, and also to make it feel entertaining. Conspiracy theories are, at their deepest level, fun for those who believe in and spread them. They are more entertaining than real news and real facts, and allow those who believe them to feel, quite erroneously, that they are far more clever than those who live in reality. They are psychologically far more satisfying than the truth, and that is why they are dangerous.

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  • MynameisBlarney
    • Proud Liberal

      Damn Republicans. Traitors one and all.

    • anwisok

      He seems nice.

    • Mary Sandoras

      Whoa, I’d like to see that broadcast in his local news outlets.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Me too.

  • Ezio

    What’s worse than an alt right internet Nazi? An alt right internet Nazi who is French.

    • MynameisBlarney

      These might be altright rooshan gnatsees pretending to be French.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      I hate Internet Nazis.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Drumpfenproles fuck up just like their beloved Führer. It’s amazing!

  • Zonath

    It’s like the Protocols of the Elders for Dummies.

  • JMP

    Damn I really wish I could never hear the word “meme” again. Seriously fuck all those 4Chan assholes, they’re the reason why despite the good it has caused I think overall the internet has been a net negative for spociety.

    • Proud Liberal

      Hear. Hear.

    • QueerPunk

      Meh. 4chan has (had?) it’s moments, but in hindsight, /pol/ was a really bad fukin idea – getting all the right wing fuckheads together in one place instead of them just shitting up every other thread on the forum gave them delusions of grandeur and too much time on their hands to crap out all over the rest of the internet.
      I’d still say Twitter takes the cake in that regard, though. The 4chan fucktards could’ve stayed where they were and posted endless memes without anyone ever seeing it – Twitter gave them the tools to weaponize their propaganda.

  • chazmanr

    “We need to stop this creep Macron from cucking up Europe, Le Pen is France’s, and by extension, Europe’s, last hope.”

    France has never been Europe’s or anyone’s last hope. France
    traditionally drops its weapons and surrenders at the first sign of
    trouble.

    • jowgajen

      *Bad French Accent* But, I am a lover, not a fighter.

      • Ricky Gay

        Time for Pepe le Pew!

        • PubOption

          Pepe the Frog is already stinking things up.

          • Ricky Gay

            That’s what I was goin for.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      France is traditionally where you get laid when you’re part of the liberation force.

    • Longstreet63

      Yeah? Tell it to Napoleon. Tell it to the 5 out of 9 frenchmen who became casualties in the first world War. Tell it to fucking Verdun.
      The French, buddy, are pretty much the most militant people in western history.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      France conquered most of Europe in the early 19th Century. So more fail memes.

      • chazmanr

        What century is this?

      • Oblios_Cap

        The surrender thing started because they lost the blitzkrieg in WWII. And that only happened because, like the rest of Western Europe, they had been downsizing their armies since WWI ended. The depression didn’t do them any favors, either, while Hitler was modernizing his forces.
        Before that, you had the aforementioned Napoleon, (The Song of) Roland , Joan of Arc, and Charlemagne, not to mention the Gaul’s in the time of Julius Caesar. Not exactly slouches.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          Kid Charlemagne conquered most of Haight Ashbury back in the 60’s

          • FlownΩver

            Is there gas in Le Car?
            Yes, there’s gas in Le Car.

          • Steely_Fan

            LC led the charge, solo!

        • Thiazin Red

          They had also lost a huge number of people during WWI.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          The French had more tanks in the field than the Germans. It’s just that they employed them as infantry support vehicles, not as a strike force. The French thought that WWII would be just like the Great War…trench warfare, which is what the Maginot Line was all about.

          • Oblios_Cap

            Actually, they can close to stopping the Germans a few times, but just couldn’t seem to exploit any of the opportunities they were given, I doubt their air force was equal to the Luftwaffe, especially after the Germans gained experience in Spain.

    • ltmcdies

      Boy your history’s a little shaky huh
      1936 wasn’t the founding year of the French Republic

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Un-imaginot-able post.

    • WeaselPoo

      Trite.

  • Mpeg

    former high school teacher

    alternate schoolroom teledrama could be titled:

    Zero F’s To Give
    Fifty Chaise of Grey
    Caught Cheating: a Slap on the Wrist and a Tickle

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Dear Penthouse Forum,

      I never thought I’d be writing to you, but then yesterday the teacher asked me to stay afterwards to “clean her erasers”…..

      • Oblios_Cap

        Bless your heart!

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Shibusa

    Creepy.

  • OTB

    Did you know ‘4chan’ started as a support group, “4 Closeted Homosexuals and Nazis”? True. Pass it on.

    • Mormos

      hahaha in fact it started as a Guro site. I’ll let you decide which is worse.

      • OTB

        That’s what they want you to think…

    • WotsAllThisThen

      And 4chan has been acting creepy towards the Disney website, so I heard.

    • Noxious Resistance

      I just read it on the intrawebs so it MUST be true!

    • I miss the original 4chan, which was more about memes and trolling than a Nazi political agenda. Sure, it always had a Nazi political agenda, but that was originally a bad-taste joke.

  • GoutMachine

    Wait, they need someone to prevent “cucking up Europe”? I thought Europe was already all full of beta pussy snowflakes? I haz confuse.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Not to mention cheese-eating surrender monkeys

  • Mormos

    I still can’t get over the fact that the French choice is between a fascist and a banker. How did the world go so crazy?

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    You know, most people with even low animal cunning know better than to throw their evidence of fakery out where everyone can see it!

    • Ricky Gay

      Yeah, like in their gym sock where mom will find it on wash day!

  • Manders

    This is such weak sauce – they don’t even have a picture of Macron and his stepdaughter in the same frame. Not that it would matter to morons. Geebus. I hate to think people would be stupid enough to buy this. But they are; they do.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      They bought that a pizza place that didn’t even have a basement was running a basement sex-trafficking ring, so I don’t place a lot of faith in the gullible.

      • ltmcdies

        Keep in mind the audience… French people …who’ve had ample opportunity to see how this works.

  • Longstreet63

    It’s France, man. If they could prove it, it would make him more popular.

    • ltmcdies

      That actually crossed my mind too

  • C4TWOMAN

    “BUT ONE OF THEM HAS A PLAN! ”

    NYPA . LOL
    I always love catching one of these clowns doing it wrong….

    • Villago Delenda Est

      They have as much of a plan as the Reimagined Cylons turned out to have.

      • C4TWOMAN

        To be fair the writers completely fucked up what makes a Cylon a Cylon. Are they clones? Are they machines? Cyborgs? Bioengineered clone cyborgs? They kept moving the goalposts. And then when they had a captured one a victim of sexual abuse–when if we follow the biology until then–she could literally crush a penis with her internal muscles…that was it, I was out. Stupid drama pandering to issues that would not exist if their world building had been tended to.

        It was too bad because otherwise the characters were very well done and well acted.

  • memzilla Ω
  • Proud Liberal

    This alt-right shit is just plain asinine. Where did they come up with their slang terms?

    • Villago Delenda Est

      2nd grade.

      • Proud Liberal

        Seriously! They are just plain ass weird.

  • PubOption

    Tiffany Trump is mentioned to a lesser extent than Tiphaine Auziere.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Scum. These people are worse than scum.
    There. I feel a little better having gotten that off my chest.

    • Proud Liberal

      Scum between my toes! :-)

    • yyyaz

      Scum feces.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    I can tell you, the rumor that Macron is a gay homosexual with a wife that’s just a convenient beard has been floating around here for several months now. Clearly, the majority of French voters are either too smart to fall for it, or just don’t fucking care. I can see this new idiotic meme working with about the same level of success.

    • elviouslyqueer

      I’d go with “just don’t fucking care.” That’s basically the unofficial French motto.

      • MynameisBlarney

        It thought the unofficial French motto was “Stupeed American!”

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          That’s Parisians, though. Les provinciaux (i.e. everybody else in the country) actually really like Americans. Even the French think Parisians are a bunch of uptight snobs.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Hey, don’t go ruining my misconceptions with facts!

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            Well, I generalize as well. I’m betting one or two of my neighbors think Americans are disgusting savages. After all, I’m the neighborhood example.

            Also, too, there is an American woman who lives a few towns away that I have not met, but she’s an acquaintance of a French friend. She’s a Trump supporter. We all find her truly repulsive, even based solely on reputation alone.

          • Paul

            Well that has sure as shit changed from 1978 when I lived in Angers. Liking Americans I mean. Parisians have always been insufferable

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            Thanks Obama!

          • Paul

            Damn good point. I was trying to figure out what could’ve caused it.

      • BadKitty904

        Zut…

      • writersbloc

        I don’t speak French, but I just assume that translates beautifully.

      • FlownΩver
  • elviouslyqueer

    These assholes hardly venture outside their mom’s basements in Piscataway. WTF do they know (or care) about elections half a freaking world away?

  • Msgr_MΩment

    The real scandal is that apparently they are running a child-labor pizza parlor out of the basement of the National Front’s slavers’ HQ.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Or NRA headquarters, take your pick.

      • Bad Tom

        There is no reason it could not be both.

  • Crystalclear12

    Robyn,
    We have discussed this. This kind of crap needs a kitten at the top as a warning.
    Gawd, these people are stupid and awful!

  • Undocumented Skwerl!

    A French man having sex with a non-biologically related woman who is not his wife?

    Shocked and awed!

  • Master Contrail Program

    So this is targeting the handful of people who superimposed a French flag watermark on their Facebook profile pic for a few weeks to express outrage not solidarity, right?

    Meh. It’s no Boaty McBoatface as far as these things go.

    • Undocumented Skwerl!

      Boaty McBoatface is the real scandal we never hear about!

  • Mr. Blobfish

    I thought it was mandatory for European politicians to have affairs?

    • BadKitty904

      Well, you see, they don’t watch as much TV as Americans…

      • aureolaborealis

        They have to find some other way to pass the time? Poor bastards.

    • ahughes798

      I thought it was mandatory for all Europeans to have affairs?

      • Grumpy Twat

        You announce this AFTER we voted Brexit?

        • ahughes798

          I knew I should have asked sooner. But there are plenty of absolutely gorgeous British men! I see them all over the BBCA, all the time! Maybe one could nip over to Spain or France on the DL?

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Ceci n’est pas une scandal du pizza-child-sex-slavery.

  • BadKitty904

    Because I ALWAYS make a point of wholeheartedly believing any news story that begins, “Word on French streets…

  • jesterpunk

    “Wouldnt it be funny to ruin someones life with a made up scandal because we disagree with them?”

    https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMi00YjA4NDU4MjI1MDljMGI2.png

  • tehbaddr

    Shouldn’t this be Baguette and brie-gate?

  • anwisok

    “. . . an elicit affair . . . ” Pretty sure you meant illicit, Robyn.

    • Undocumented Skwerl!

      I think she meant a “delicious éclair.”

      • Indivisible Snark Tank

        Or that she’s going to Lilith Fair. I can’t quite understand her accent sometimes.

        • ahughes798

          It’s CHI-CAH-GO, not CHI-CAW-GO.

          • LucindathePook

            Mr. Pook would not agree. He yells at the TV all the time about this.

          • ahughes798

            Is he Nort Side, or Sout Side?

          • LucindathePook

            Skokie, Evanston, Wrigleyville, Rogers Park and points north.

          • ahughes798

            That’s interesting. I’m from the near West side-Division/Ashland/Milwaukee, and it’s Chi-cah-go there. Further south it’s Chi-cah-ga in some areas. I think Chi-caw-go might be more of a North Shore, Evanston-ish way of saying it? I like dialects.

    • proudgrampa

      Tomato, tomahto.

    • Amy!

      I was confident that that would elicit a correction in the non-comments.

  • C4TWOMAN

    The only intelligent attempt here is the one in actual French. It’s not like metastasizing English language memes are going to impress a French speaking populace.

    http://a398.idata.over-blog.com/1/92/63/13/2014/MLP-ED.jpg

    • proudgrampa

      It’s like the French have a different word for EVERYTHING…

      • Bobathonic

        omelet du fromage…

        • proudgrampa

          THAT’s what I’m talking about!

        • ahughes798

          Then eat le poisson!

        • aureolaborealis

          Excusez-moi, où est la bibliothèque?

      • C4TWOMAN

        Qu’est-ce que c’est?

        • proudgrampa

          Have some fromage?

          • aureolaborealis

            That stinky French frottage is an acquired taste, I tell you what.

      • Meccalopolis

        A certain.. I don’t know what?

        • proudgrampa

          I know what you mean…

  • proudgrampa
  • FauxAntocles

    Doesn’t Vlad have anything better to do?

    • Proud Liberal

      He wants to rule the world, along with DT.

      • Oblios_Cap

        Everybody wants to rule the world.

        • Indivisible Snark Tank

          Nothing ever lasts forever, tho.

        • yyyaz

          *side-eyeing* the intel committees:
          I can’t take this indecision
          Married to a lack of vision.

      • yyyaz
        • Meccalopolis

          That a metaphorical leash? Hmm.. no fooling’

      • C4TWOMAN

        Hmmm..exactly like Sauron and Saruman, I expect.

      • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

        Trump isn’t a necessary part of Putin’s long term plans, in fact he’s too dumb to be reliable and Putin knows it. Le Pen is who Putin sees as a real long term ally. Trump is a temporary weapon of mass distraction and destruction. Putin will hang him out to dry as soon as it’s useful to do so. He doesn’t need him. He’s compromised enough politicians in the GOP and on the far left that he’ll never lack for a friendly candidate to steal an election for. He wanted chaos in the US and Europe, he got it.

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Nope. Russia’s main export is fuckery.

    • BadKitty904

      Other than subvert and destroy the NATO powers, one by one?

  • BadKitty904

    Next up, 4chan fuckwits delve into investigating French public safety…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnlIWpZSPXU&t=105s

    • Villago Delenda Est

      “Does your minkey have a leesaunce?”

      • yyyaz

        “Ees en ze bumb. Here, luk eenside eet.”

        • Notreelyhelping

          “Kato! Feetch me ze phune!”

      • BadKitty904

        Makes more sense than this 4chan bullshittery…

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      “How does an idiot join 4chan?” “Eeet is simple, he enlists”

  • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

    Nothing like having a plan!

    https://youtu.be/x46t3N21-bI

    • BadKitty904

      (I love this movie – Bacon and Ward were brilliant together.)

  • Jgb979

    Scratch not even below the surface of this and you’ll see a lot of Russian IP addresses.

    Nate Silver convincingly made it sound like she has no chance to win the entire thing, but fuck to Nazi’s coming in second.

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      He also predicted a nice, fat Hillary lead here.

      Until he starts building Russian Interference into his models, I can’t put a lot of faith in his predictions. Nothing against him. You can’t account for cheating, can you?

      • Jgb979

        With Hillary it was +3-4% (which in 2016 politics is about as fat of a lead as you will see). Then Comey letter happened, she dropped about 3%, and lost by less than one in key Midwest states.

        Madame Nazi is down by at least 20% under every possible runoff matchup.

      • aureolaborealis

        He didn’t predict a nice, fat Hillary lead. He was one of the folks cautioning against overconfidence. He was also reminding people that a probabilistic model that has someone leading 75% to 25% is one where the other person wins one out of every four simulations. Not a nice, fat lead at all.

        And this was without accounting for the loss of the VRA. All the training data the predictive modelers were using was from elections where the VRA was in effect, but this was the first presidential election without the VRA. I’m surprised they got as close as they did with their predictions, frankly.

        If the VRA had been in effect for the 2016 election, we would have a very different looking balance of power in D.C. right now.

        • timpundit

          I criticized Silver a lot in this models and such, but he sure was right.

    • BadKitty904
  • Shoto

    “…far-right (now former) National Front leader Marine Le Pen…”

    “now former” is a pre-election branding strategy to make her appear more accessible / less objectionable. That’s my guess, anyway. A fascist by any other name.

  • Master Contrail Program

    If he’s elected it will be mass hysteria! A veritable crime against nature!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cd941dc19d797ff4f17313e10d0abff8677c0ac3486555c63d77a663df72ac22.gif Skunks and cats lying down together, as demonstrated here!!!

    • jesterpunk

      Cats and Dogs living together.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfVcvyxLj-s

      • MynameisBlarney

        Seeing shit that would turn people white.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        “Is this true?”
        “Yes, this man has no dick.”

        • Master Contrail Program

          This Chan has plenty, though perhaps not in an anatomical sense.

    • ahughes798

      The cat was male, also, too.

    • yyyaz

      Pepe LePew is far more lovable than Pepe LeToad.

    • C4TWOMAN

      I had a tomcat years ago who did this with a very fluffy attractive neutered male cat. My cat would follow him around, sniff his butt, hoping he’d go into heat. The other cat would hiss at him…it was sad but funny.

  • Villago Delenda Est
  • Bub, Zombie of the Resistance

    I’ll never forget the story about Hillary Clinton where she was being briefed about the kind of attacks she could expect, and was told there might be claims that she had slept with a colleague. Apparently she began to tear up and said: “They’re going to say I slept with a collie?”

    She was so used to the sort of scurrilous garbage Rethugs said about her that she believed they would accuse her of having sex with a dog. Think about that.

    • Prof. T. Green Bastard

      Not one single, solitary white male politician serving right now could stand up to 1/10th of what that woman faced.

      Fuckin hero.

      • ahughes798

        Very true. And very sad.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      I think the rumor started after someone heard her singing that Christmas carol

      Check the balls out on that collie
      Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la

  • Pierre_de_Fermat

    Good article, Robyn. I had started seeing this, but only as a ref to a hoax. So this time the hokum was not as fast as those nitwits thought. Not sure what these people are really thinking; are they all 14yo?

    • WotsAllThisThen

      4chan’s motto: Yes we’re all 14 years old.

      • puredog

        14-y/o libulz!

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Meanwhile, this is the kind of dumber than dirt crap that wingnuts are sharing on social media today

    http://washingtonfeed.com/trey-gowdy-breaks-his-silence-after-2-of-his-investigators-are-found-tortured-and-killed.html

    • MynameisBlarney

      Oh for fucks sake.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        pure unadulterated bullshit, but by day’s end it’ll be established fact amongst the knuckle draggers- Hitlery killed ’em

        • puredog

          Didn’t even contract it out — woman’s got time on her hands. An’ she’s angry!

    • Master Contrail Program

      I love that the “article” is smaller than the lottery winning secrets and various scare ads. Guess these wingnuts have conquered the stigma of crepey skin already.

    • C4TWOMAN

      “on their way to serve a search warrant on the Clinton Presidential library.”

      Okay, are we not completely sure this is a satire website? I’m scanning the footer…

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        It’s all over the echochamber- all the usual suspects are blaring it out

        https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#newwindow=1&hl=en&q=2+gowdy+investigators+killed

        • C4TWOMAN

          Sigh. Welp, this was in the footer:

          “The content of this site is owned by the Washington Feed. Republication or redistribution of our content is prohibited without mentioning the source.”

          ORLY?
          http://washingtonfeed.com/breaking-democrats-vote-against-bill-banning-sharia-law.html
          CONSERVATIVE BREAKING: Democrats Vote Against Bill Banning Sharia Law

          The Democrats are constantly throwing around the word “Islamophobic” at us, for trying to protect our country from Sharia, but there is one thing they haven’t gotten right – that we are NOT afraid, we just don’t want Sharia Law in
          our nation because for starters, it does not belong here!

          The progressives from Montana are doing everything they can to blockade legislation from getting passed as it would deny the absurdity of Sharia Law from being implemented to the state’s judicial system.

          The Senate Bill 97 which was first introduced by (R) Kieth Regier bans the application of any foreign law in Montana’s courts, and it specifically mentions and highlights Sharia law. The bill thankfully passed 56-44, however, it is the number of votes in opposition to this legislation that surprises everyone.

          Despite knowing for a fact that this law describes a barbaric
          ideology, people are still willing to implement it in our system? This is unbelievable.

          Assholes.

          Don’t want to spam this thread, but this website has more than the usual java/script coding to make copy/paste awkward….

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Welcome to Wingnutistan

    • Villago Delenda Est
    • SeeTrain65

      One down vote for linking to that piece of shit.

      Oh, all right, not a REAL down vote. And besides, I pressed the up vote arrow.

      (EDIT: Seeing C4TWOMAN’s post below, I guess you had no choice)

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        FAKE NEWS!

    • dshwa

      Broke the rule of “Never click on the Linky.” That’ll teach me.

    • puredog

      My stars, I didn’t know that. Thanks, washingtonfeed.com!

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        “No, we have no evidence. There’s never any evidence”. I find that to be hilarious.

  • proudgrampa

    We need Hercule Poirot to investigate, n’est-ce pas?

    Nah, he’s Belgian.

    • chortlingdingo

      You’re looking for René Mathis, Bond’s French counterpart. In the novels, anyway. They reimagined him in the films.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      I prefer David Bouchard from Bon Cop Bad Cop. Mais il est Quebecois.

      • proudgrampa

        Actually, I’m a big fan of Chief Inspector Armand Gamache, of le Sûreté du Québec.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    The left loves him because he wifed up his old teacher, Brigitte, who is like 30 years older than him, it plays into their “muh stronk, older woman can get hot young toy boys”-fantasy

    Now THAT is a convincing French accent, right there.

    • kaydenpat

      Ain’t it though. So Parisien.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      OTOH, it is a convincing Russian accent. Ironic, ain’t it?

  • Amy!

    Are they seriously suggesting that they can reduce a French politician’s appeal by claiming that he has a mistress?

    Here’s a hint, boys: the self-righteous anti-sex (and anti-wine) puritans ne parle pas français.

    • Moar Wordz

      L’etat, C’est vous 😄

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    If there is anything that will take down a candidate in France, it’s a sex scandal. Keep up the good work, guys!

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      It did do in DSK, but that was particularly gross one.

      • yyyaz

        *Adds Welcome to New York to must-watch video list*

      • David Chaillou

        As a matter of fact, it was DSK who opted out. Not sure the voters would have sanctioned him. Now, a financial scandal, that can really hurt a French politician. Maybe the FBI had more stuff on him and he decided to cut his losses.

  • Chuck

    I thought 4chan was just a place where a friend of mine goes for Extreme Fisting Porn. Not me , a friend.

  • rosenbomb

    Silly 4Chan, don’t they know wanting to fuck your daughter helps you win the election?

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    Donnie has made passes at his biological daughter, and the French aren’t as prude as we are (as long as everything in consensual). I doubt they’ll care.

  • Relativicus

    To this day I cannot wrap my head around Gamergate. Also, what’s “muh stronk”?

    My favorite part of the meme is the fact they cannot seem to find even one picture of him and the daughter together.

    • They have no photos of kids being trafficked beneath pizza places either. Does not seem to stop them.

      • Relativicus

        That is a good point.

      • yyyaz

        Hence their self-appointed “private investigators.”

      • One of the reasons people used to avoid 4chan was its reputation as a pedophile haven.

        • Nockular cavity

          Let’s just assume that it is, just to turn their own shit back on them, because fuck them. “Oh, you’re one of those Pepe/4chan people? I heard you guys are all pedophiles.”

          YOU’VE SEEN IT YOURSELF, PEOPLE–IT’S ON THE INTERNET!

          • Meccalopolis

            Damn 4chan wienie waggers

          • Back around 2010 or so, it was all over the tech blogs that a number of 4chan users were posting child pornography. After a few FBI raids, arrests, and that the rest of the internet was hammering 4chan for it, the admins finally cracked down hard. But, yeah, a quick google search found all sorts of articles about it.

    • Thiazin Red

      Women who play games said “Hey maybe all the female characters don’t have to be damsels or exaggerated sex objects” and “Why not stretch a bit with the writing” and “Maybe don’t sexualize underage female characters”. Cue dude freakout

      Now I’m trying to think if there is a single picture of me and my mother’s husband in the same shot.

  • True fact: Every member of 4chan is a cowardly ((((palm)))) lover who no one even likes, even other 4chan users.
    Totally true, read it on the internet.

    • yyyaz

      How appropriate: a circle jerk of self-loathing.

      • Noxious Resistance

        That’s 4chan.

    • DainBramage

      In this case, I think you’ve actually hit on truth.

    • Contemplative Ron

      I did too, just now, so it must be true.

    • Grumpy Twat

      Perhaps if Wonketters were to start spreading memes…?

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Are young French citizens as susceptible to this kind of manipulation as Americans? Compare and contrast.

    • Claire

      I don’t think so. There was a Sekrit Gay Affair rumor about one of the candidates earlier in the campaign (it might even have been Macron). He made a big joke out of it and it disappeared.

    • kaydenpat

      Doubt it.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Oh, for fuck’s sake.

  • h4rr4r

    Why are these in English?
    If you wanted to mess with the french election, would it not be better to do it in french?

    • Edith Prickly

      Le derp, c’est nous.

      • AJ Milne

        Ceci n’est pas un brain trust.

        • Edith Prickly

          On les a bercé trop près du mur…

          • David Chaillou

            Bercés

          • Edith Prickly

            Merci, tu as raison!

    • we’re not precisely speaking of geniuses here.

    • kaydenpat

      Do you actually believe that any of those idiots speak a foreign language. Some are barely literate in English.

      • Moar Wordz

        Perhaps literate of fapping? To minors performing explicit acts ? On the website ?

  • Me not sure

    I hear from people that Marine le Pen is a secret member of an all female Nazi sheep furry cult that trolls pastures for hot ram action, and if people say it, it must be true. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9046d1713430c8727fb7c5f666526743f8755e2a9898e457d5dd7c571f288e8c.jpg

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      I am intrigued by your photograph and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

      • Me not sure

        If you feel that strongly about it, then you’re probably not welcome.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I read that online! That Marine le Pen is part of an all-female Nazi furry cult!

      • Hobbes’ Evil Twin

        People are talking about Marine le Pen being part of an all-female Nazi furry cult, so there must be something to it.

        • Me not sure

          Three unimpeachable sources have now weighed in, from what I’ve heard.

      • Me not sure

        So, confirmed! I KNEW IT!

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          And I read that it was confirmed, so I’m pretty sure it’s time that the LAMESTREAM MEDIA took notice.

          • Me not sure

            I know of at least two unimpeachable sources.

    • DainBramage

      Ember, god of Fillory, approves this message.
      http://www.theworkprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ember.png

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      THE SHEEPLE HAVE AWOKEN!!!1

      • Me not sure

        We have awaken ed a seeping giant.

    • kaydenpat

      Well, she is a Nazi sympathizer, so you have that part right at least.

      • Me not sure

        Also, a hard core Woolite addict.

    • The Wanderer

      Ah! A clandestine photo of the unholy, perverse rites of The Cult of Bopeep!

      • Me not sure

        I put my Google at risk to get those candids.

  • AJ Milne

    Erm… Illicit.

    If this is an acceptable standard wonkettese deliberate wrong because funny thing I sit corrected, but using that verb thing up there is giving me a Dreyfus tic.

    • mailman27

      Me too/filled with shame.

  • Internet Hitler

    Kushner and Rebekah Mercer convinced Trump to hire Cambridge Analytica (majority investor Robert Mercer) during campaign. CA, a subsidiary of military disinformation masters SCL Group, microtargeted 220 Americans using data collected without user knowledge or permission, posting 100,000 pieces of propaganda per day. This is the foundation of lies driving Trump’s base.

    Bannon was on the board at CA. SCL has influenced elections in UK, Italy, Latvia, Ukraine, Albania, Romania, South Africa, Nigeria, Kenya, Mauritius, India, Indonesia, Thailand, Taiwan, Colombia, Antigua, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, St. Kitts & Nevis, Trinidad & Tobago. SCL is linked to Russian spies, oligarchs and international money laundering. CA servers are linked to Trump and Alfa Bank servers. Kushner and Mercer were rewarded with positions in the administration. CA now has White House data contracts.

    Russia is now going full force to put La Pen in office.

    • Meccalopolis

      Also linked to Eric prince douche

    • QueerPunk

      Even if this passes the sniff test, and it does, do you have some linkys for us? I had one for a good writeup a while ago that pointed out some of the same things, but I’ve lost it.

      • Internet Hitler

        Alexandra Chalupa has more of this compiled. All from public sources.

        • QueerPunk

          Thanks, didn’t know of her till now. I’m liking her Twitter-feed very much.

    • Moar Wordz

      Why 220 Americans & not 1,000, 000? I think they’d need more than 220 Americans. Or was the ” seed plan( bwaaaaaa-haaaaa-haaaaa ) ” sort of like 220 peices of sprouted potato buried in warm loam and then yielding 30 potatoes ? Resulting in Mr.Potato head ?
      (I’m sorry, I’m sorry, that was a cheap shot.)
      Is CA in Cambridge, MA, or Cambridge, England ?
      ” Using Data collected w/users knowledge or permission, ” what kind of data and what sources ? To influence the 220 Americans ? Or other targets ?
      Inquiring minds need to know.
      I’m a S.C.L alumna. No, I meant S.L.C, S.L.C, that’s it. 😜

      • Well bless your heart. You big silly.

        • Moar Wordz

          Just the lingering after – effects of a red pill, Darlin’.😉

    • David Chaillou

      Notice how Bannon has gone off the radar screen?

  • Noxious Resistance

    “…Le Pen is France’s, and by extension, Europe’s, last hope.”
    Hey great! Then after she loses, you douchenozzles are finally gonna STFU, right guys? Because the last hope will be lost? Right? Guys?…

    (I didn’t think so)

  • WiscoJoe

    According to the transitive property of wingnut projection it appears that these 4chan douches are uncomfortable with the relationship between Trump and Ivanka.

    • Meccalopolis

      Turned on by

  • beavertank

    I was never much of a fan of the idea of government mandated stripping away of internet anonymity, but the assholes at 4Chan make it more and more attractive every day.

    • QueerPunk

      Really, it’s a matter of Twitter and Facebook getting their shit together and making signup a bit more of a hassle. The memes will stay on the chans, if they can’t be disseminated (made that point below, but it bears repeating – 4chan is _nothing_ without means to weaponize their bullshit).

    • I don’t know the law well enough, but it seems like the starters of this rumor have malicious intent and know they are publishing false statements, so perhaps Mr. Macron could be able to find out if he could file a libel suit. That would force them to unmask themselves.

      • beavertank

        The concept of defamation and privacy protections in Europe are significantly different than in the US. Most European law would probably make a defamation action based on 4chan’s statements pretty simple. US law would make it a lot tougher. But the involvement of the internet makes finding a court to take it (and getting it jurisdiction over the people making this crap) much harder.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      The Internet seems to be moving farther away from anonymous commentary on its own. HuffPo went to Facebook, now there’s no place to comment on their web page at all anymore. Most newspapers have gone to Facebook or Disquis. I’m not sure if it’s concern about liability, general disgust with the comments, or all of the above.
      And Also, if you commit libel or slander, anyone with enough money for a good attorney can hunt you down. You’re not as anonymous as you think.

  • I’m sure our national news media will be responsible and do their fucking jobs and carefully vet and source all reports they find online and verify the information with independent sources.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA….

  • snark-lurker

    wut is 4chan anyway? is it a blog?

    • chortlingdingo

      Some kind of shitty-designed forum, I think.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      A wretched hive of scum and villainy.

    • boyblue122

      A message board for degenerates

    • Yellerduck

      It was started by a 14-year-old boy (no, really) from England circa 1999 as a completely unmoderated, uncensored forum where people could get together and in sub-forums and set their own rules, or have none. It spawned such things as trolls, Anonymous came out of it, doxxing was a sport for certain groups, a whole range of enforced anonymity and, internetty goodness. After reading about it, I’m pretty sure our resident troll Turgid Love Muscle hangs out there a lot. Read “The Dark Net: Inside the Digital Underworld”, by James Bartlett. Great (scary) history of how we got from academics using the web to share data to where we are today.

      • snark-lurker

        thx!

      • jenny_whyme

        Trolling existed before 1999. I was there internetting before the word internet was invented. (Don’t get me started about before the world wide web. Gah.. I’m old.)

        • Yellerduck

          Yes. That’s all in the book. 4Chan just gave the trolls a place to gather and plan.

    • VirginiaLady

      The site thinks it’s hot shit, but it’s been pretty irrelevant for years now. It’s nice that neckbeards have a place of their own so they don’t foul other sites.

  • rick

    Who knew 4Chan’ers were closet Alt-Rightests? It’s a shame they don’t use their talents for something more useful…like getting Trump’s tax returns.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      I always thought the Alt right, the MRA, and the PUA got their start on 4Chan, 8Chan and reddit.

  • Rick Hill

    Yeah but, heck, it’s not America. This might help him in France.

  • kaydenpat

    Have these Rightwing idiots seen the way Trump looks at his biological daughter, Ivanka? Did they hear when he said he would be dating her if she wasn’t his daughter?

    Please.

  • Suse

    Speaking of 4chan and its ilk: The Daily Beast‘s Bonnie Bacarisse has discovered that the “Red Pill” “men’s rights” misogyny group that festers in the darkest crannies of online forums Reddit and 4chan was founded by Republican Rep. Robert Fisher (R-NH).

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/04/25/republican-congressman-just-got-outed-founder-popular-pro-rape-group/

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Hoe many of those Purity Dads would like this guy dating Baby Girl?

  • AJ Milne

    It’s the trouble with these newfangled internets contraptions. Time was these errant young’uns would have to stick to lesser, more local mischiefs. Tipping cows, buggering chickens, stealing sasparilla from the drugstore fountain, that sorta thing. Hard on the livestock and the druggist, sure, but less frequently serving the interests of internet-connected nuclear-armed kleptocrats _also_ with apparently so little ambition or inspiration for actually bettering their own world they’d rather tear down everything else.

    It’s some consolation, I guess, that even their moms just wish they’d move out already. And that the chickens are generally disappointed with their performance.

  • Greyhame

    It is a moral obligation and a solemn duty for everyone else in the world to continue never having sex with 4chan trolls.

    • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

      Not ever actually a problem, except maybe for them.

  • Bitter Scribe

    Meanwhile, if anyone suggested that Trump was bedding Ivanka, these guys would be absolutely beside themselves with fury.

    • The Wanderer

      He might have been, back in the day when she was young and pretty.

    • jenny_whyme

      Wasn’t it Trump who first suggested he’d be dating his daughter…. add to that the creepy pictures of Trump and Ivanka. It sort of makes you wonder.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      Julia Ioffe already did. Those fuckers got her fired.

  • VirginiaLady

    That was a very good and creepy read. Now I’m scared.

  • SammyDEEEE

    Jesus fucking christ, what the actual fuck.

  • mailman27

    As the inmates take over, the snark becomes more difficult.

    • Hardly Ideal

      Life sure is strange and terrible, living right on the corner of Farce and Reality.

  • Raan

    So, if the French fall for this, do they lose the right to the “stupid American” insult?

    • David Chaillou

      No, you have a god-given right to that epithet. And collectively getting Trump elected doesn’t help.

      • The Flaming Carrot

        Too right. I’m still reeling from the 2003 cheese boycott and the fucking “Freedom Fries.”

      • Raan

        And Le Pen would be better?

        • David Chaillou

          She won’t win so it’s academic but as a matter of fact she is way smarter than the Donald. Mind you, so is a leaf of lettuce.

          • Raan

            None of us thought The Evil One stood a chance in hell either – until he won. Keep on your toes.

          • David Chaillou

            He didn’t trail by 25 points in the polls.

          • Raan

            Okay, but seriously do stay on your toes though. We need a glimmering ray of hope to cut through the nationalistic xenophobic shitmist that is world politics.

          • David Chaillou

            Sorry to disappoint you there. The real story will be the parliamentary elections next month, always was, and they’re not looking so good.

  • David Chaillou

    Won’t work. Fucking a 30-year old should actually get him more votes from French electors. It’s not like she was a minor or his genetic daughter.

  • aureolaborealis

    OT: I assume you have something in the pipe for this, Robyn, but:

    The Republican Lawmaker Who Secretly Created Reddit’s Women-Hating ‘Red Pill’

    • Shibusa

      Robert Fisher is a full-on freak!

  • David Chaillou

    These guys at 4Chan are morons. French people love patriarchal perverts. If Hollande had done more sex stuff it would have improved his image.

    • Stephanie Rakowski

      I was gonna say “Did anyone point out to them these guys are French? And the French DGAS about sex between adults?”

  • Hardly Ideal

    Can someone explain to me why 4chan is still allowed to even exist? The bad that came out of it has long since eclipsed any of the good.

    *gazes at the papercraft forum and sighs* You guys were the coolest, and even you flipped your shit about whether or not stencils counted as papercraft…

    • ahughes798

      We’re just slightly evolved apes. We’ve gone from flinging our shit at everything to flipping our shit at everything.

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    “If this is anything like the Pizzagate situation, we can next expect the rumor to pop up on subreddits like r/The_Donald, and then later in some YouTube rants, and then finally on Infowars.com. Soon, there will be people on CNN debating whether or not this theory has any grounding in reality, despite the fact that it is obviously just something some idiot just pulled out of their ass. That is how these things spread.”

    You left out the part where the New York Times gets into the act. Maybe Eric Lichtblau researches it in order to dispel any notion that the Russians may have taken an interest in bringing down Western democracies, or relays the concern from anonymous sources on deep background that Hillary Clinton’s people may have been involved. Or else Maureen Dowd ensnarks it for one of those ghastly kittenish Alt Op Ed columns of hers. Or, God help us, Ross Douthat thrusts his neck-beard into the controversy to insist that the rise of Macron is due to the death of family values, and that if people only prayed together instead of doing all that fucking, it would be a better, purer, Douthatier kind of a world

    • The Flaming Carrot

      LOL. I still get messages from NYT imploring me to sign up for their overpriced online subscriptions and painting themselves as part of the “resistance.” As if they had no culpability in the election, and as if their continued employment of Douchehat could be construed by any reasonable person as a manifestation of resistance.

  • The Flaming Carrot

    Normally, I don’t like to criticize the looks of female politicians. But I can’t decide whether Le Pen looks more like the product of consanguinity or Isabel Dinoire after the face transplant. And Mme. Macron looks pretty damn good for a 64-year old.

  • merl1

    Have they noticed how Donald looks at HIS biological daughter? This might backfire on the idiots.

  • azeyote

    maybe things have changed since i was in France, but the people i met were way smarter than the average Trump voter who didn’t mind their guy lusting after his daughter –

  • John Frum

    The Russians have basically weaponized fuckwits.

    • kareemachan

      This might be one of the most cogent comments EVER.

      And true.

  • Scooby

    I’ll bet Woody Allen is pissed.

  • HorseChestnut

    none of this is really especially different from traditional propaganda — except instead of posters or essays or flyers, they’re using memes.

    Also, unlike traditional propaganda, they’re doing it for free.

  • brucej
    • Pickles

      “Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . “

      • Odd Jørgensen

        And when some talkshow hosty asked what they had in common? Ivanka platituded “real estate and golf”, while creepy dad managed to say “I was going to say sex…”

        • Heyzeus Ahchay

          The sex probably comes after the real estate and golf.

  • Panika MCD

    since when were we supposed to love him because he married his HS teacher? it’s not really any of my business is what I think. it neither gives me hope nor dismay. it just is a thing that is and has 0 things to do with policy.

  • shivaskeeper

    Great article,,but I have to disagree with the conclusion that this is fun for the true believers. It’s not fun for them at all, it’s deadly serious. It may be fun for some of the ones who start the CT’s, but the believers are a whole nother thing.

    It seems to be a combination of needing to be smarter than everyone around them and being the only ones who can put all the pieces together, a need to find a reason to not trust “them” (whoever the particular them is), and a deep need to make see the world as a much darker place than it really is. There are other factors in play, but some combination of those three will be there.

    Something like Pizzagate takes off because the people who want it to be true actually need to be true at some level. They need to be able to look at someone who disagrees with them and dismiss them as a child raping, human trafficker. It makes it so much easier to hate that way. It proves all the bad things they believe about anyone who disagrees with them can be and are true. They are the ones who bust the scandal wide open.

    The best to hope for here is there are a few less unmedicated delusional assholes running around in France as there are here.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      I’d say it’s fun in the same way that a slasher movie is “fun”.

      Good points all around!

      • shivaskeeper

        I don’t think so. I mean a slasher movie is OK mindless entertainment. Something to watch for for two hours. An escape even, like most movies are. The fear from a movie is transient and you know it’s not real. It’s something to make you jump maybe, or scream at the idiots on screen to not go in the basement.

        When you walk out of the theater, or stop the movie at home, it’s over. These people live in constant fear and paranoia. To extend the metaphor, at best they don’t know the movie isn’t real. At worst they hope it is real so the world is a dark and shitty as they think it is.

        In other words, at best some of them pass on the CT for the same reason some people pass on urban legends. At best hey just don’t know any better. It sounds somewhat plausible to them and they are either to lazy to look up the info or trust whoever told them. (With a CT, any independent research is going to be hampered by not trusting any sources that disagree with the stated point of view.) At worst they are deliberatly and knowingly making the world a darker place when they start the CT in the first place.

        Remember, if you live in America, you live in a country that locked up daycare workers for decades and incidentally ruined I don;t know how many lives due to the Satanic Panic in the ’80’s. With no physical evidence and no witness testimony other than now debunked recovered memories people went to jail for decades for ritually abusing and murdering children in the basements of day care centers because the people who convicted them wanted to believe the world is that dark of a place. Pizzagate is just one more chapter in the same old book.

        This makes sense to me, but I’m not sure I’m getting my point across correctly.

  • pianoplayer1

    I hate the wingers so much.

  • Zyxomma

    Illicit, not elicit. Sorry, Robyn, but I did 39.5 hours of temp financial proofreading in four days this past week, and now you have to fix it.

  • James

    The “dumber than dirtcrap” article from the winger Website Zippy noted below was debunked by Snopes (that liberal biased site that cites facts).

    http://www.snopes.com/gowdy-custody-investigators-missing/

    The idea that Trey Gowdy is in “protective custody” is false anyway, since he made a public appearance at a college in South Carolina yesterday.

  • President in Exile Firefly

    Even though this meme war is fake, France will still find a way to surrender.

  • Sugarlarry

    The French are only marginally smarter than Americans. So there’s a good chance this will work. Scary.

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