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[–]DenverRage 114 ポイント115 ポイント  (4子コメント)

We have a regular who comes in demanding various foods in her water or else she will "contact" our District manager since she's a "friend" with her. The foods she expects are, Cucumbers (which we don't carry), orange slices (which we also don't carry), a handful of mint leaves, and fresh cut strawberries. Every time I tell her or the other servers tell her that we have to charge for those items she goes into a huge hissy fit rampage. I want to desperately give this to her as a big F YOU LADY.

Oh, since we have been denying her every time, she decided to order a dessert which has, mint and strawberries on it. She then proceeds to say, "Oh, just take the mint and strawberries from the dessert and put them in my water".

Fun times...

[–]soggyfritter 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well at least she's paying more for it.

[–]ninetieths 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Take the mint and strawberries off the dessert, covered with the chocolate or crumbs or whatever the dessert is and put it in her water. Yummo.

[–]doinsublime 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone who says they will call someone is a liar you should ignore.

If they could call them, they already would have.

Fuck that noise. Ignore drunken states of aggressiveness. (Unless youre the person who has to, obviously. It's sad I needed to say that as well.) Don't ever allow someone to download their negative energy onto you.

[–]Customerkennethjor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, actual crazy person!

[–]msyodajenkins1 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Funny enough, working up north I never ever was asked for a drink togo. Working in Georgia its all the time. So weird.

[–]gdvybs 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same! I moved from Massachusetts to Texas and the first day of training I was told to ask if a person wanted their drink to go. I thought it was the strangest thing.

[–]VorcePA 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Gonna go with heat and humidity being the reason.

Also southern sweet tea is a delicious killer.

[–]dylightful 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The reason is more fatties. Not that there aren't overweight people up north, but you know. I noticed it moving from Seattle to Louisville. Never in my life had I been asked if I wanted a to go drink before.

[–]Cowslayer1993 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lived in Georgia for almost all of my life. I thought this was normal.

[–]superspeck 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope. And while we're at it, I never had anyone bag my groceries before I moved to the south either. I'm an able bodied human being and can bag my own damned grocieres the way I want them bagged, because I'm the one that carts them up three flights.

[–]megfry88 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is it weird that servers are supposed to ask or that having a drink to go is an option?

Growing up in Kansas, I think I have watched the change over the past decade or so from not having the option to at least being able to ask, but I have never been offered the ability.

[–]LGBecca 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Spot on. I moved from the north to the south and was suddenly being asked if I wanted drinks to go. Perhaps it's the heat.

[–]ethan33000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i get offered drinks to-go in georgia

[–]Lovat69 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh god, now I want to do this to someone.

[–]zombisponge 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every time I see a post about tipping I get reminded how happy I am we don't do that complicated shitshow in my country.

[–]averagejoegreen 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great way to lose a job

[–]JolIy_Giant 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (31子コメント)

This wouldn't be a problem if the restaurant owners paid minimum wage. It's ridiculous that the burden is placed on the customer when they already pay for the food. USA is so dumb with how the restaurant and waiter/waitress pay setup is. Think they're one of the few if only that has it set up that way.

Edit: I live in the USA. Note I'm not hating, my sister is a waitress

Trying to state that it should be the owners responsibility to pay Their employees. Doesn't make sense that the customer should be directly responsible. I understand that the money has to come from somewhere I.E. the customer but the owner is getting the best deal charging more than they should on foods and definitely on beverages then passing the majority of the salary to be paid onto the customer directly .

[–]jonesy0412 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Noted, but your opinion doesn't change the system, so tip your servers and bartenders.

Edit: editing because maybe I sounded like a dick and that's not my intention. It is just frustrating to have this same circle jerk conversation about tipping. In the US a server/bartenders wage is strictly tips. I don't know who decided on the system, but that's the way it is. It isn't going to change simply because people feel like it should be placed on the establishment. Maybe it should, but it's not. So the only person you are screwing by not tipping, is the little guy. Not the establishment. end rant.

[–]mmat7 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Noted, but your opinion doesn't change the system, so tip your servers and bartenders.

But thats just flat out wrong, if everyone stopped tipping, people would not work as servers because the pay would be too low so naturally they would have to just get paid more by their employers.

I NEVER understood the "tipping culture", here in Europe tipping is just that, a tip, an extra. You earn what you earn and if you get a bit of money from tips thats great but you shouldn't depend on it.

[–]jonesy0412 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (9子コメント)

You're still just taking it out on the little guy. Just stop tipping servers until we all can't afford to live so we all quit, then that will really stick it to the establishment?! I'm baffled that you think this is an effective solution.

Edit: Also because you can't understand it, because its not done that way in your country, it shouldn't be so? You called it tipping culture yourself. Yes, it's different, it's a different culture. I'm sorry that you don't like it? You boycotting it doesn't change anything, it just makes you cheap. If the culture here changed, the cost to eat would be way more expensive. So you don't mind paying a larger tab if the establishment is paying the servers, but you do mind paying a larger tab if a tip pays the servers?! It makes no sense.

[–]mmat7 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

But nothing forces anyone to work as a server(Unless its absolutely and entirely impossible to find another job). Its not like its the only possible job to get and if people don't tip they are starving this person because its his only possible source of income. If you NEED tips as a server that means that the pay on this job is unreliable so you have to realize that sometimes someone won't give you a tip and you will have to deal with it.

[–]jonesy0412 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

How could you possibly feel so strongly about something you clearly don't understand? Obviously people rely on these jobs, don't be insulting. We do understand that we get stiffed, but you're not giving a good reason to not tip. If the system changes, you would be paying the same regardless, it would still come out of your pocket, the customer. Why do you care if it's a tip, or if it's in the raised cost of the menu?! What's your point exactly?

[–]mmat7 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

but you're not giving a good reason to not tip

Why do I need a reason not to tip exactly? Because as far as I am aware tipping is supposed to be something you do voluntarily, its saying "I had a good service". I need a reason to tip not a reason not to tip. And if you think that if servers were paid normal wages by their employers and that would mean that the meals would be 10% (or whatever the tip is in any given situation) more expensive then maybe you are the one who does not understand it. Yes prices would indeed increase but not nearly as much as people tip (If we consider that the employer would be fair about it)

Like I said, if you need the tip to earn enough money for your everyday expenses then the job is unreliable and you have to deal with the fact that sometimes you won't earn enough money and that is no ones fault because you did know the risks of this job and you are willingly working there.

Tipping should be seen as a good gesture if you actually want to acknowledge someone giving you good service not a necessity that makes you the asshole when you do not do it. Or when you want to round up your bill so you won't have to wait for the change and carry unnecessary pocket change.

[–]clucks86 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This. So much this. I like in the UK, and i recently had this discussion with my boyfriend. In the UK this is how tipping works. If you like the service give the server something a little as a good gesture and i believe around 10% of the bill is eitquette. Anyway we ate out at a pizza express (like pizza hut but they a bit more up market and try to be more authentic in their pizzas) and he paid the bill and as he was paying by card it gave the option to tip which he did. And he then left her a bit of change on the little plate they bring with the bill on. I asked him why he tipped her twice "well she wont be earning much will she? They rely on tips" in America yes they do. Here in the UK its illegal not to pay your staff a min wage no matter their job title unless they are self employed. He was dumb founded. And then he said that still its a nice gesture. I pointed out its a nice gesture if the server did something that went above and beyond her expected job role. Basically the server was attentive as we was seated. Was good with recommendations. Thats good thats her job. She left us alone which i like, cant be doing with fussy staff that come over every few seconds asking us how our meal is. Although i do understand the management require them to do that. We caught her attention for drink refills again thats fine. But when it came to clearing plates she left us a long time. When it came to asking if we want desserts again a long time. She forgot we had ordered a dessert and there was no apology and then we had to ask someone else to get our bill for us as she walked by avoiding eye contact quite a few times. That did not deserve a tip. She was no busier when we left then she was when we first got there. In my eyes she gets a wage and thats all she earned on our table. The next time we ate out he paid more attention to the server. Who by the way deserved every penny of the tip i left him.

[–]mmat7 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They rely on tips" in America yes they do. Here in the UK its illegal not to pay your staff a min wage no matter their job title unless they are self employed.

Actually so is in most of the US, its just that the tips are counted into the minimum wage, if they don't get tipped enough the employers have to pay them up to minimum wage, but if they can't earn that much in tips most of the time they just get fired.

[–]clucks86 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just read that further down too. But a tip is that. Its a tip. Not a wage.

[–]jonesy0412 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here we go again. I have to go to bed, let's just agree to wholeheartedly disagree.

[–]mmat7 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah yes "I have nothing to say so lets just say that we disagree"

There is no reason to tip anyone unless you feel like it, and you knew what kind of job you are doing and you should expect that you will get paid as much as you have written on your contract, I am under no obligation to give anything thank you very much.

[–]SanityInAnarchy -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because as far as I am aware tipping is supposed to be something you do voluntarily, its saying "I had a good service".

Theoretically, it would be. It is, in Europe, as you point out. In the US, tipping is giving you, the customer, the ability to give someone a pay cut in response for terrible service. Or, in your case, just because you feel like it. That's a messed-up system, but that's what you actually do if you refuse to tip people in the US.

Tipping should be seen as a good gesture if you actually want to acknowledge someone giving you good service not a necessity that makes you the asshole when you do not do it.

Perhaps it should, but in many places, it isn't. In the US, you are an asshole for not tipping in places where, for example, employers are allowed to pay well below minimum wage for jobs where tips are expected. Theoretically, the employer has to make up the difference if the tips don't actually add up to minimum wage; actually try to get an employer to do that, though, and they'll fire you in exchange for someone who either gets better tips or complains less. And that's not taking into account just how low the minimum wage is in the US -- it's actually considerably below a living wage in most places.

You can't change what is into what ought to be by stiffing people on tips. Perhaps things would be different if everyone agreed, but that's not a refutation of the claim you were responding to:

Noted, but your opinion doesn't change the system, so tip your servers and bartenders.

Your opinion doesn't change the system. It just doesn't. Everyone's opinion would, but it turns out everyone disagrees with you right now, and you're unlikely to change that. So your opinion still doesn't change the system.

That would be like me going to Paris and shouting at everyone in English, hoping eventually people would give up on French.

[–]QueenOfBrews 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This again?

[–]Customerkennethjor 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mandatory tipping makes no sense. You're expected to add x% yourself, but if you add less than x% you're apparently an asshole. Just increase the prices or add a service charge to the bill. Don't make me do math!

[–]SanityInAnarchy -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope, that would still make you do the math -- if I opened a new restaurant and put out signs saying "Everyone is paid a living wage, you don't have to tip" or something, you now have to subtract x% to compare my prices with everyone else's. And you'd get enough people ignoring that and tipping anyway that the cycle begins again.

The solution to math is to have the bill include some suggested tips.

My solution to math is to over-tip. For example, if 15% is the norm, I shoot for 20%, which is stupidly easy -- multiply by 2, move decimal point over, done.

[–]LobsterBloops93 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

News flash: Some states do have minimum wage but wont give servers more than 20 hours. (Where I live.) my husband is a server and trust me, tips are still everything. Paycheck each Thursday but with <20 hours each week tips help tremendously, especially with a young daughter to support. You don't live here so how dare you pass judgement. If my husband could get a different job he would but no one is hiring for what we need to get by. Life is tough.

[–]mmat7 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So he works only 20 hours a week and does not get a lot of money?! REALLY?!

News flash: Maybe your husband could have gotten a full time job instead of working <20 hours a week and complaining that he needs the tips? considering he works 5 days a week thats 4 hours of work a day only 5 days a week, this is nothing for a grown up man with family.

And don't try to say that there is absolutely no part time job he could attend, if he were to go out to work at 8/9 each day with 15-30 minutes break he should be home around midday every day (unless he works more but less days then its even easier) he can easily get some part time job. Even if it would not make a lot thats still better than complaining that "its hard for one person working 20 hours a week to sustain 3 person family".

[–]Ekiph -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.reddit.com/r/TalesFromYourServer/comments/66dg7o/sure/dgicht7/

Also, if you can't get more than 20 hours at one place, either have two jobs or get a full time job somewhere else.

[–]Ekiph 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Believe it or not, the employer is required to make up any difference that is not made in tips, so that it meets the federal minimum.

https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.htm

Employers electing to use the tip credit provision must be able to show that tipped employees receive at least the minimum wage when direct (or cash) wages and the tip credit amount are combined. If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct (or cash) wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the minimum hourly wage of $7.25 per hour, the employer must make up the difference.

[–]sammythejammy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you live in a country where patrons are expected to foot the bill for your wages

[–]Forever_Awkward -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

When a person gives you bonus money for no reason and you get offended that it isn't enough.

EDIT: This message has had an interesting voting trend. It slowly crawled up to 11 points and then plummeted into the negative after people replied. It's neat to see how a message is received differently based on the comments that come after it.

[–]Ruuubick 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When your employer doesn't pay you a living wage so you blame the customer instead.

[–]SanityInAnarchy 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

When it's well known that employers don't pay servers living wages, so you decide to fuck over the below-minimum-wage employee instead.

[–]sammythejammy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When it's well known that employers don't pay servers living wages so you decide to blame tight customers instead of getting anything done about the actual wage from the employer.

[–]taeg1 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When the employee is paid less than minimum wage and the customer thinks a tip is "bonus money".

[–]EoinIsTheKing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a spiteful thing to do.

[–]Customerkennethjor -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unprofessional.

[–]letmeusespaces -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

how do you know how much they've tipped if they haven't left yet? only a classless server picks up the tip while the party is still there

[–]GrassGenie 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you pay with card doesnt tip go with the bill?

[–]vne2000 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have been asked for tips before. I usually tip 20 percent unless you ask me for a tip.

[–]MichaelPlague -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

why is a tip based on how much you spend I don't understand. Like, if I spend 200 dollars on food am I going to get more service, and better service? Are you going to pay attention to my table more? is that fair? Why can't tips be a flat rate? The attitude is entitled, honestly.

[–]ipoopongirls 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because if you're spending $200 you're ordering more food, drinks, desserts, etc. meaning whether or not I want to, I HAVE to spend more time on your table to run all of your stuff, bus your table, check on your $200 order, etc. Can't really speak for the "better" service, which is why you tip a percentage on a tab, not a flat tip just because your tab is higher.

[–]MichaelPlague -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not seeing your point to be honest