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Red Pill TheoryI'm in highschool and I'm fucking angry (self.TheRedPill)

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Backstory

I first discovered redpill back around 2013/2014. At that point I wasn't convinced by the message it was trying to tell me - I was more confused than anything. By late 2014 I had internalized the core concepts. I've been around here for a long time and I've certainly seen the place grow. I've gained great knowledge through this subreddit and it has benefitted my life in many ways. But...

Something is wrong

To put it simply - I can't get bitches. But wait - it's not what you think.

It's not my game. I've been practicing since 13. I was lucky enough to find this place early on with a still-malleable mind. I'm fearless when it comes to day game, night game, all game, just girls in general. I think it's safe to say that my game is on point. Or at the least 2x better than the average high-schooler.

It's not my SMV. I'm a 6'3" white male, 190lbs lean muscle (which is nothing by internet terms but definitely means a lot in high school.) I was considered "hot" back when I was a little pinbean freshman year and I know that I have an attractive face. My school's main sport is track & field which I am the best in the school at. At track meets I'll switch out of a shirt into a beater and catch the girls eyefucking the gains.

It's not money - I come from a wealthy family and wear expensive clothing. It's not attitude - I'm (almost) always in a good mood.

So I can't get bitches - What is the problem?

Out of frustration, I've made probably 5-6 asktrp submissions asking for help over the course of 3 years. I've talked to my Dad about it (he's a pretty cool dude.) I've spent literally years thinking about this... figuring out where I'm going wrong.

I've finally got it figured it out

I'm not cool

There are guys shorter than me getting girls. There are guys dumber than me getting girls. There are guys so fucking ugly it hurts to look at them getting girls. There are guys who don't know how the communicate with this "female gender" getting girls. What do all of these guys have in common? They're "in" with the cool group.

That's it. Nothing else. No it's not because they "lift and get uuugee" (thanks asktrp)

They go to parties on the weekend and get smashed. They smoke a bunch of weed every lunch and get shit marks in school.

Proof

Some of you guys might call me out on my bullshit, saying that I'm just "in the anger phase" or "making excuses" but no, hear me out.

The past 8 months of school I hooked up with zero girls - Except for one.

Coming back from her boyfriend's house, in a place she knew nobody else would find out about us, at a time she knew nobody would be awake to walk by us, is where I hooked up with the hottest girl in my school. I was going outside for a walk at 12:30pm when we both happened to walk into each other. I asked her what she was up to and she said she was coming back from her boyfriend's house. I was like "fuck that guy, come chill with me if you want some real fun." and that's how it happened.

I come back to school the next week. She won't even look at me in the hallways. I didn't even bother bragging about what happened because everyone would see through my bullshit right away. But every time I happen to drive past her going to play sports or go to school or whatever she gives me the "fuck me" eyes.

More Proof

In the eighth grade I had an 8-month phase where I was "in" with the cool kids (my old high-school.) I was going to parties every week and I was "known." It's almost like my name was a trademark. The younger boys on the block would praise my name and the girls would hear only great things about me. I was hooking up with all of the top-tier girls. 2-3 new girls per week. It was pretty sweet, doing whatever it is that grade 8's do haha. But do you think I would at least get one girl in 8 months with my reputation now?

You don't think I have a reason to be angry? I was getting 9/10's when I was cool and I know that now I deserve at least 7.5/10s, but 5.5/10s in my school won't even put out. This is a fundamental issue that goes beyond the game or lifting that TRP boast.

Things learned

People in asktrp can tell you this and that about high school. They told me I just need to lift weights. So I did. They told me I needed to get money. Which I had. But it's all bullshit. Girls talk to each other and they know who the "cool" guys are of the school. If you're known as "uncool" it doesn't matter how hot you are, girls won't risk ruining their rep fucking you. That's it.

Moving on from here

I'm goanna start doing whatever it takes to get "cool." I don't do drugs (unless on vacation) because I don't want to fuck up my mental development - but I'm goanna start doing some drugs. Well.. not actually but my plan is to try and make it look like I am. That's my game plan. I'm goanna always ask for the blunt but only do a mouth inhale. Always be the first guy to shotgun a beer at a party then not drink the rest of the night. I'm going to try to give the impression that I "don't care about school." That I just "don't care" about anything. Try to act high all the time basically. The reason I don't get bitches is because of the way people perceive me so if I change the way that they perceive me, I might just get some.

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[–]1jiveraffe 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You're not "cool" because you're desperate to get bitches and women can sense desperation like a predator smells fear.

Nothing makes women drier than the Sahara like desperation. You're not outcome independent, and unfortunately that's not something that can be learned. Your frame is weak.

[–]Putins_Orange_Cock 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It can be learned. Through years of defeat.

[–]1jiveraffe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You misspelled 'earned'.

Wrong. States, unlike skills, cannot be learned they must be acquired. It is the experience that matters. Outcome independence is a state of mind, much like confidence or swole. You cannot watch a Youtube video that will give you outcome independence, but you can watch a video that will help you act as such. Which might lead to the same thing.

However, you can learn a skill easily. Or earn a state through hard graft (as you said).

[–]Putins_Orange_Cock 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

At this point in my life the words learn and earn mean the same thing. I'm a grizzled cynical old man. But you're spot on.

[–]Powerofchoices 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Got to agree with this. First year all I wanted to do was lift and study (I really badly wanted a 4.00gpa) I'd wake up early and go to the gym and then spend the rest of the day at classes and at the 24/7 library... Holy fuck everyone wanted to bother me ask me to go out and party and even this girl who I barely knew asked me to "check out her room" because she was living in a jumbo room. I said sure and stood her up because the school year was almost over and I really just wanted the grades I worked so hard for. The people could see how focused and how driven I was, no sense of desperation to fit in whatsoever. However this created opportunities for me to make friends within the same niche as me and from there I networked a lot and made plenty of friends. My advice to you is do what you want and don't try to make friends. They'll come to you eventually.

[–]Titanstone 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Alright listen, high school/college is all about social circle. You have no other options. You dont have "night game" when you can't drink. In high school it is the socially concerned popular kids. In college it is joining a frat and/or other sizable clubs. Being an athelte.

Basically, girls at 18 are on their way to reaching peak SMV. They will be dating people who are steps ahead of you. Wanna get bitches? Add value to your group. Have the car. Have access to stuff others don't. Be respected for type of hobby or accomplishment that other guys don't do. Be cocky/funny but also supportive of those in your group. Being an egotistical dick only goes so far when you're a young kid with nothing under your belt yet.

Get your future shit in order. College will be around the corner, and it is the sexual nirvana of you play your cards right. It isn't too hard. Put yourself in a bitch-heavy environment. Add value. Don't be a goofy autistic sperg that says things that may disqualify you. That's it.

[–]DigitallyDisrupt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You dont have "night game" when you can't drink.

Here's a life hack if you can't or don't want to drink. Learn how to bartend! And if you get good, you can get nice jobs from it. But the thing is, nobody notices you aren't drinking and everybody come to YOU. So you get to work the room without moving. Also good for the aspie/auts. You'll even get very appreciative hosts, if you don't let people get sloppy drunk, and help preserve their alcohol. Then you'll get more invites... Then you'll get cheers when you show up, like those drunks can't drink without you there. Can even make some money if you make/bring the cooler PJ and sell it. (Be aware, potential for lots of liability with that one)

[–]1ozaku7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Basically, girls at 18 are on their way to reaching peak SMV.

And they will prefer banging older guys in their 25's. Don't worry, you will get to that age and SMV too and fuck the 18 y/o broads you didn't bang when you were 18 yourself.

[–]Arminarmeen 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well.. do you want to be cool to get bitches, or do you want to be cool because you fucking love the narcotically awesomene dude you are?

Don't do it for pussy, do it for you. Do everything for you, people see past you're bullshit.

[–]randomassortment_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find bitches a great motivation to be honest. If I do something for myself, I can easily just think "I don't want to lift today". If I do it for women the mindset shifts "I don't want to lift at the gym today, but I won't get the bitches unless I do, so I must."

[–]helgisson 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

First of all, you're taking this way too seriously and overthinking it, and that's part of your problem. Second, high school girls are much less likely to hook up in a ONS kind of way, and much more likely to put out if you're in a relationship or FWB situation with them. So just calm down, have fun, meet new people and expand your social circle. Join clubs and shit. I lost my virginity to a girl I met in drama club, of all places. Just try to meet new girls and don't come across as desperate to fuck them, just flirt and have fun and see where it goes.

Shit like this...

I'm goanna start doing some drugs. Well.. not actually but my plan is to try and make it look like I am.

... is retarded, and people will see through your bullshit real quick if that's how you go about life. Be yourself, and make yourself awesome. The sooner you realize that the sooner you'll start having success.

[–]sixseven89 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm also in high school and this is could not be more fucking accurate.

[–]M_I_Z_Z_O_U 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just be glad you came across TRP now, instead of 10 years later like me. Now go lift.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You have no one to blame but yourself

The only person keeping you from being in the cool crowd is you

Track and field is a great secondary sport but women don't care about it. If you are good at track you should be playing football in the fall. No excuses. At your size I see no reason why you arent. You want easy status and an easy in with the cool crowd you need to be playing football or baseball

Drugs are for fags. Underage drinking is for losers. Your last paragraph might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen here. Butthurt

Game still matters. I was popular in high school. Played 4 sports. Went on to play D1 football in college for a team that finished in the Top 10 3 straight years. Yet I was unsuccessful with women in both high school and college. Why? Because I had a beta approach to women. It doesnt guarantee shit

[–]Sbdaq 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just gonna step in here. drugs are fucking amazing. Drug habits are bad. But drugs are worth trying.

Saying 'drugs are for fags' comes from someone who just doesn't know that much shit. Nothin more to it

Ever swim naked in a pristine lake in the woods on a beautiful sunny day after eating mushrooms? Ever have acid sex with someone you care about (all rp theory in mind)? Either of those experiences will be way way better than banging however many 9's and 10's. (Better as in different but similarly/more amazing). Coke is good too just don't get addicted

Damn I'm sorry but as a human being don't keep yourself from trying drugs. Just be careful.

[–]Need2LickMuff 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you contest the 'drugs are for fags' assertion... by being the same fag that the OP was talking about.

lol.

[–]OneRedYear 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. I dated girls from outside school activities where I had status in the groups. I was a nerd so I dated cute nerd girls. My girlfriend in high school was a nerd, we both were in a youth business program that my mom ran and I was president of. Status. Cheesy and lame? Yes. King of my world? Yes.

In college I ran with artists musicians and actors. I performed and produced shows and videos. Status. I knew everyone and they knew me. Status.

After college I threw raves regionally. Status.

Now I'm an old man, my hobbies are photography and filmmaking. I date local wanna be models and actresses or girls who just think it's cool that I make movies. Local status.

You have to find your niche and excel in it.

During all of this I had a normal job and career in IT and advertising. Nobody ever fucked me for fixing their computer or writing a great commercial. It was my hobbies that did the trick. School and work are for grades and money. Hobbies and sports are for bitches and fun.

[–]davielondon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Listen up kid and listen well. You have to grow some balls, but in this day and age you have to grow them on social media first.

I'm sure you're friends with most all the kids in your high school on facebook like I was. Start commenting on peoples posts who are cool and voice your opinion just like you do on here. Tell the truth - if its mean who the fuck cares; start taking the initiative to make yourself known through social media. They get mad at you and want to fight? Whoop the mother fuckers ass. You can't fight? Go to a boxing gym. Better yet, Establish dominance within your school even if you aren't dominant. Get into a fight with a popular dude, Make yourself known, even if you lose the fight keep talking that shit. What do you have to lose? If you don't give a fuck what anyone thinks and start speaking your mind, people will like you. Be a dick. If you see a hot girl, tell her you think shes sexy af right in front of people. Be confident. Start showing them that you have balls to be an individual and you'll eventually be the leader of your own cool crowd. Don't fit in with the so called cool crowd, create your own.

[–]Need2LickMuff 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the most god awful advice I've ever read. You're trying to get OP jumped and hated by everyone? Highschool isn't the same as it were when you were a kid; Liberal attitudes PLAGUE the place, and "truth telling" is just going to get the kid hated.

OP don't listen to this guy. He's just trying hard to sound motivational and alpha.

[–]Bigjohnthug 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They told me I just need to lift weights. So I did.

Sets you up for life bro trust me.

Girls talk to each other and they know who the "cool" guys are of the school. If you're known as "uncool" it doesn't matter how hot you are, girls won't risk ruining their rep fucking you. That's it.

Yeah basically. The exception is last stretch of high school. By the end of high school I was the stereotypical cool kid, or would have been at any other one at least. I was tall, jacked, partied etc but the school I went to was GATE so the cool kids were the ones getting the best grades. That made me kind of an outcast, a complete contradiction to most schools.

What happened for me is that in the last two or three weeks, girls started making themselves very available for me. I got some from that, but mainly outside of school.

I'd recommend getting popular outside of school too. I did it that way because my schools parties were weak by comparison, but I went to nearly all of them anyway because I started getting invited.

I'm goanna start doing whatever it takes to get "cool." I don't do drugs (unless on vacation) because I don't want to fuck up my mental development - but I'm goanna start doing some drugs. Well.. not actually but my plan is to try and make it look like I am. That's my game plan. I'm goanna always ask for the blunt but only do a mouth inhale. Always be the first guy to shotgun a beer at a party then not drink the rest of the night. I'm going to try to give the impression that I "don't care about school." That I just "don't care" about anything. Try to act high all the time basically. The reason I don't get bitches is because of the way people perceive me so if I change the way that they perceive me, I might just get some.

Lol that won't work kid.

Just ask your coolest friend to invite you to stuff. Done.

Anyway, the other thing you need to do is make moves. It makes you a lot cooler to be hooking up with girls. I remember once I was flirting hardcore with this chick in a lower year and decided to spank her a little. All the female heads swiveled to observe. She enjoyed it and was pretending to fight back while obviously just presenting more ass to my hand. I was treated differently for weeks after that- seeing the one hot girl enjoy me touching her body made the others want it too. I got a lot of opportunities because of this principle but in all honesty I fucked up and didn't pull the trigger enough. I didn't realize how insecure young girls are and how afraid to pull the trigger they are. Honestly I think half the reason I ended up fucking so many girls is because I shot myself in the foot during high school so badly. The amount of hot girls in my bed that I did nothing with 16-19...

[–]Endorsed ContributorMattyAnon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

OP - this looks about right. You have negative social credit, and it's killing your game IN SCHOOL. Outside school you'll be fine if you are hot as you think you are.

I think it's safe to say that my game is on point.

It's safe to assume that it is not. If you had tight game (and btw 2x better than the idiots around you is 2 x 0) then women would be interested and they'd think you are "cool".

Get girls outside school. Or from another school where you don't have a bad rep.

Outside school... when you're older.... all this shit just fucking disappears. It's weird. It just goes away and people stop behaving the same and the group-think goes away.

For now.... work on being cool obviously, get women outside school.

To be "cool", stop worrying about what other people think, fucking stand for something, be your own person. Treat others well, get cool hobbies/activities outside school. Expand your social circle, try to get along with everybody. You are being alienated for a reason - it's your job to figure that out and reverse it.

Don't look like you care too much. Don't try to fit in - that's just the way to mediocrity.

[–]Algernonymouse 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with getting girls from outside school. In my high school years, my buddy and I found a goldmine of girls in community service. Club events are often the easiest places to stand out from the betas, to approach girls from other schools and to spit game.

Furthermore, the service hours/experience do you good on resume/college app

[–]Need2LickMuff 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Join whatever sport is popular in your school and get good at an instrument. Take pretentious faggy photos, skateboard, take crew photos, go to more parties, and just be yourself instead of a try hard faggot (contradicts the pretentious photos bit, but the whole point of that is to appear deep to all of the 1 dimensional teen bints).

Take it from me: Lost virginity at 15 due to choice (could have lost it at 13/14), had +40 girls from both my school and from outside schools approaching me first and escalating hard all the time.

[–]freshoutofgravitas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

well, your posting here, and this is a great move on your part, soooo have an up vote. I can relate to a lot of this. I had the money/looks/height thing going foe me too, in high school. I also was doing great academically. but I kept striking out with most chicks. soooo, I did the drugs thing. moderate success, at best. nobody wants a unkempt hippy bitch, or later your only cultivated friends have dropped out, failed at career development, and can barely feed the kid their raising alone. I didn't figure game out till 27, and at 35, I still have to hold frame pretty tight to not get oneitis . the partying looks cool, but can have terrible consequences. mostly like older guys on your scene swooping up your girl, getting you setup to be drunk/stoned/passed out so I can play the "I the older/wiser/ in control Man here" card. I pulled that card shamelessly and successfully till my 30s. guess what the girls want now? the 9s and 10s want a man that has his financial shit together. I'm not pulling 10s by looking jacked from my construction job and my sweet weed connections. read this as "drug scene is beta". the bitches you do pull will be a fucking liability, dude, its low hanging fruit . please consider this, from a guy that played his cards wrong, grinding it out on the slow road out of hell

[–]RubyOrchid13 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You need to practice idgaf attitude. You aren't, and are coming off as thirsty af. Pretty simple. Now, post this to ask next time.

[–]Endorsed Contributorstonepimpletilists 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You got to chad the hottest girl on the sly, and havent been her fuccboi for years?

Dude, get out of your own way, if you want to fuck, the oath was clear. If you want status, thats a different conversation

[–]SouloftheVoid 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

High school is just a bunch of cliques; that disappears completely when you get to college.

[–]Arie_R 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You sound obsessed over how your peers see you; that's pathetic. You seem obsessed with getting your dick wet; that's pathetic. Also, the fact you are 'angry' over not getting (enough) attention from girls probably stems from you feeling entitled to girls' time/pussy. Entitlement is HIGHLY unattractive.

I would recommend to stop caring about what kids in your class/school think about you (or what/who they think you are) and just work on yourself. Do what YOU want to do. High school is really not that important (when talking about social status etc) and I doubt the 'cool kids' grow up to be interesting adults. I would advice against drugs and drinking at a young age; I think the consensus at this point is that your brain is still developing into your early/mid 20's so I would not fuck with that at all.

You want to think about dating when you go to college and into the real world; there, being with the 'in' crowd matters less and less. You also need to wonder if/why you want to attract girls who want to bang the 'cool' guys… Are they who you want to be intimate with?

There's plenty of time to meet girls/women, hookup, fuck, date, whatever. Find what you are passionate about, what sort of further education/training you'd like to do after graduation, what sort of job/career you'd like, what you like in your spare time, and focus on that. Always wanted to learn to play the cello? Rent one and take classes or teach yourself. Want to learn to play chess well? Join a club. Maybe you like working on motor cycles or cars, then do that. People are most attractive when they are happy with themselves and their life. You will be attractive when you are enjoying what you do, you feel satisfied with your course/job and your friend group.

[–]AussiePhil82 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck your brain up on drugs while it's still developing for a chance to get into some bitches axe wound? Sounds like a solid plan..

School is for getting good grades and setting yourself up for a good future, not for trying to get birches.

[–]TheYanginyourYin -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your moving on from here portion is really out of whack and is full of holes. I'd laugh my ass off personally if I saw you pretending to hit a blunt or pretend to drink and I'd probably have to crack a joke. Get yourself together and take advice from the comments man you're just trying too hard in the wrong ways and going about this the wrong way

[–]SJHammer -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They told me I just need to lift weights. So I did.

I've been lifting for 10 years, about compete in my first bodybuilding show. In the gym, I'm one of the few "big" guys. It doesnt mean crap with women if you are acting beta. It helps with initial attraction but thats it. I know this because I've only done well with women when I was acting alpha, the muscles didnt change. You have to have the redpill personality to take advantage of the lifting.