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Huffington post just released an article stating white males should not be able to vote. (huffingtonpost.co.za)

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[–]AmericanSpeller 108 ポイント109 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A HuffPo South Africa article, written by, "MA Philosophy Student".....yea. Super world-changing opinion maker there.

[–]Henzley 156 ポイント157 ポイント  (21子コメント)

It's frightening to see people that really believe this stuff. I'd love to see them try to take away my vote.

[–]MZ603 98 ポイント99 ポイント  (18子コメント)

The article is from South Africa. They are having really bad racial problems right now. Talk of taking away the farms from the white farmers. It's push back from the Truth and Reconciliation process. Black South African's still feel like they are owed.

[–]JihadSquad 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Related

[–]I_wanna_b_d1 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

LOL if those are legit then that is hilarious

[–]raven00x 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know if the headlines are legit, but the situation there is real. More here.

[–]black_cat_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Zimbabwe went from being "the breadbasket of Africa" to begging for international food aid within a couple of years.

The country's economy in 1997 was the fastest growing in all of Africa; now it is the fastest shrinking. A onetime net exporter of maize, cotton, beef, tobacco, roses, and sugarcane now exports only its educated professionals, who are fleeing by the tens of thousands. Although Zimbabwe has some of the richest farmland in Africa, children with distended bellies have begun arriving at school looking like miniature pregnant women. The Atlantic

[–]AlILivesMatter [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

it's real

[–]Henzley 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I did read that and while I don't know much about South African culture or politics, the article did discuss Brexit and Trump. They're talking about taking all white males voting rights.

[–]MZ603 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe, but they are talking about it in South Africa and thus through that lens.

[–]Henzley 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not entirely though. That may have been the direct focus but the author was definitely saying that the problem was that white males all over the world could still have a vote. It's irrelevant anyways as it will never happen.

[–]leftjacob -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

White males will always be in power

[–]ShelSilverstain 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're She's talking about taking all white males voting rights. One idiot. Look how many people are trying to disenfranchise American voters, for real, every fucking day based on race or party or some other demographic

[–]RogerPM27 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

well they can feel like they are owed but punishing someone for something they themselves did not do is the definition of injustice . This post was so insane for a while I assumed it was satire . Unfortunately the south Africa stuff was a bit too grounded for it to be satire.

[–]KimmiG1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Option 1. Sell the land and leave the country.

Option 2. Prepare to salt the land or some thing equivalent in incase they start to actually steal it.

[–]Middleman79 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Go get your gun and flag, wave them about. Grrrrrrr..... scary.

[–]Meme_it_LIKE_A_BOSS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why do people even bother making incoherent comments like this?

[–]eternalexodus 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

huffpo is just some bullshit anyway. don't give that shitrag the time of day.

[–]carr0ts 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I do not agree with this bs but it should be noted that this is a blog post, not an "article" as it is not journalism, rather an opinion piece.

[–]ImNoSheeple 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

But, it should also be stated that this goes through some form of review process before it just goes up. So whoever is somewhat in charge at HuffPost said "YES! Send it."

[–]Elmepo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you sure of that? I know several news sites have basically glorified blog sections with no editorial oversight

[–]carr0ts 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I do not agree with or support this persons opinion and although I am not a white male I don't believe in taking away anyone's right to vote EVER. that being said I don't think the author of this post is calling seriously for white men to have their rights taken, rather trying to get the reader to understand that she thinks it's a problem that white male voting patterns lead to decisions that negatively effect people of color. She says it in a tone of complete disdain and ignorance of a larger picture of all our places in the world but she has a right to her dumbass opinion and trying to sensationalize a blog post with bullshit us vs. them propaganda is the true rage here. She could have said the actual point without the smug iamVerySmart attitude and sensationalism of suggesting a large group of people lose their rights.

[–]nhorFR 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh shut the fuck up

[–]IMightBeEminem [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The problem is racialized thinking, the result is proposing bullshit like this. Rethink your worldview.

[–]SnikiAsian 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This has to be a satire right? I mean there is no way someone lacks self-awareness so much that they fail to see that she is not only considering white males as a homogeneous group but also believing that white males cannot help but harm minorities. She is acting exactly like the racists that they rile against so much. In fact, if I switched white males to any minority, you would believe this article came from Stormfront or other neo-nazi sites.

[–]doublegulptank 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"This redistribution of the world’s wealth is long overdue, and it is not just South Africa where [Jews] own a disproportionate amount of wealth."

Jesus Christ.

Are these people really this self-unaware??

[–]tsloan27 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Shelley Garland is an activist and a feminist and is currently completing an MA degree in philosophy. When she’s not gagging at South Africa’s unique brand of rainbow politics, she’s working on ways to smash the patriarchy." Well then, we can pretty much just write her off as bat shit crazy...

[–]artist-FKA-Old_Gregg 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Voting in America is like flicking a light switch in a house you've never been in before.

[–]Gaggamaggot 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huffington Post is cancer.

[–]Amadeus_IOM 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's just huffpo clickbait rubbish. Would be best to only link to archive links and not the site itself so their plan doesn't work as intended.

[–]RogerPM27 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

' black female identifying ' A. i'm sure those white guts who identify as a black female suffer loads of oppression ( to be clear i don't think anyone is really oppressed in the west but this person clearly does so this is a huge flaw in her logic ) B. well as soon as they strip the vote off me you can bet I am gonna be a black muslim gay female .

Thinking about it maybe I am a bit sexist because I genuinely think if this woman's plan went ahead the world would be in ruins in weeks . Why does she think taking away men's right to vote would let her take away all our money and give it to other people ? we still literally make up 90% of the armed forces if not more and have all the money ? there would be a coup instantly ? it's almost as if she doesn't realise that repressing a large proportion of the population wouldn't cause massive unrest ? it's not as if all these white mens wives are gonna be chill with this either ?

[–]eternalexodus 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

you can bet I am gonna be a black muslim gay female .

yup, 100%. I'll just check those boxes on the form, and if anyone tries to stop me from submitting my vote, I'll accuse them of being a racist, islamophobic, homophobic, sexist asshole. if they try to point out that I'm not, I'll tell them they're oppressing me and erasing my experiences.

it's fantastic because there is literally no way they can refute me without upending their entire fucked-up skewed identity politics. that's the beauty of non-falsifiability: it just cannot stand up to logic, because it fundamentally undermines it.

[–]xereeto 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thinking about it maybe I am a bit sexist because I genuinely think if this woman's plan went ahead the world would be in ruins in weeks .

How does recognising that disenfranchising 50% of the world overnight would lead to societal collapse make you sexist?

[–]ridl [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You "don't believe anyone is oppressed in the West?" Fucking.... Really?

[–]mobile_mute 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thinking about it maybe I am a bit sexist because I genuinely think if this woman's plan went ahead the world would be in ruins in weeks.

"The death of a democracy comes when the citizens realize they can vote themselves money from the treasury."

You expect it to fail because you know that's exactly what she wants to do.

[–]DuelistDeCoolest 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you think that's bad, you guys should read A Modest Proposal. Johnathan Swift actually suggests eating babies. Horrifying!

[–]Mutant_Dragon 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand what you're implying, but this article really doesn't come across as satire to me.

[–]Meme_it_LIKE_A_BOSS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No, stop what you're doing. What is wrong with you?

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[–]ridl 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, can you argue?

[–]aqouta 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

decline in the influence of reactionary and neo-liberal ideology in the world.

This literally reads like communist propaganda. They're not even pretending to not be marxist anymore.

At the same time, a denial of the franchise to white men, could see a redistribution of global assets to their rightful owners. After all, white men have used the imposition of Western legal systems around the world to reinforce modern capitalism. A period of twenty years without white men in the world's parliaments and voting booths will allow legislation to be passed which could see the world's wealth far more equitably shared. The violence of white male wealth and income inequality will be a thing of the past.

Oh, I didn't think it would get this explicit. The person is literally a communist.

This redistribution of the world's wealth is long overdue, and it is not just South Africa where white males own a disproportionate amount of wealth. While in South Africa 90 percent of the country's land is in the hands of whites (it is safe to assume these are mainly men), along with 97 percent of the Johannesburg Stock Exchange, this is also the norm in the rest of the world.

Lets just send them to Siberia, Hopefully you won't cause millions to starve to death this time.

Over the past 500 years colonialism, slavery, and various aggressive wars and genocides, have been due to the actions of white men

Collective guilt is a toxic ideology, Do they seriously not see the racist parallels?

It is no surprise that liberalism – and its ideological offshoots of conservatism and libertarianism – are the most popular ideologies among white males.

Go burn in hell you authoritarian garbage.

These ideologies with their focus on individuals and individual responsibility, rather than group affiliation, allow white men to ignore the debt that they owe society, and from acknowledging that most of their assets, wealth, and privilege are the result of theft and violence.

I'm actually mad, this is the only thing I've ever seen on this sub that has gotten me this angry. Liberalism is on the attack from both the right and the left.

[–]terraorbem [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It should be obvious by now that this isn't going to go away anytime soon. You can say this is marginal and seen through a marginal lens, but the amount of this rhethoric is rising steadily.

Most of us assume this is the result of a small group of idiots, but this ideology has spread to academia and is seeping into mainstream consciousness now (see BLM).

We haven't seen the end of this, I promise you. If this article pisses you off (as it does me), I assume we'll be full-on raging in a few years...

[–]ExarchApophis 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

My mom is currently telling me to ignore this article and that huff post is still the best news source...

[–]shimmy_shimmy_ya 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's not an article, it's an editorial. Not that it really makes it any better, but editorials are opinion and not news.

[–]RegulusTX 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, but something tells me if you wrote a pro-nazi editorial, or bring back slavery, etc... it wouldn't get posted.

[–]shimmy_shimmy_ya 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, not on Huffington Post.

[–]mobile_mute 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot more people read the Huffington Post than the Daily Stormer, though.

[–]GuyForgett 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not an editorial. Editorials are published by the editorial board on behalf of the paper and become the official position of the paper. This is some idiots blog post.

[–]shimmy_shimmy_ya 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, you're right. The point is it's not a news article, and it says Blog at the heading.

[–]Tappen_Zee -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huffington post is nothing more than a feminist/SJW blog.

[–]copperstar -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This isn't anything new with Huff Po. They're pretty much a SJW version of Storm Front

[–]akbort 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huff sucks like others are saying but keep in mind this is just a glorified blog. The only thing that makes it different from a basic blog is that someone at huff post decided this author should have some space on their website in the blog section. Which means nothing of value.

You'll find every niche radical belief around the internet but the fact is that this is not a widely held opinion among the western world at all.

[–]xereeto 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like a rather modest proposal to me

[–]randy88moss 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We're getting the Muslim treatment now...they're lumping all of us in with uneducated hill-folk.

Edit: Should've read the article first...they're not even talking about the US, and this an opinion piece by a teenager. Get this shit out of here.

[–]mobile_mute 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Studying for an MA in Philosophy... if she actually was a teenager in grad school she'd be smarter than this.

[–]bobbymcpresscot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shelley Garland is an activist and a feminist and is currently completing an MA degree in philosophy. When she’s not gagging at South Africa’s unique brand of rainbow politics, she’s working on ways to smash the patriarchy.

I'm starting to think this is less people who actually believe this horse shit and more people posting this shit specifically and only to cause controversy.

[–]Zeta-X [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Can we start using http://archive.org/web/ or a similar program to avoid giving traffic to HuffPo for writing articles like these?

Writing outrageous shit that gets thousands of clickthroughs from people who already don't respect their organization still gives them money, and encourages them to publish more rubbish.

[–]War_Cloud -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is your brain on Liberalism

[–]xereeto 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, it isn't. She actually denounces liberalism as a white male ideology halfway​ through. Not sure what this woman is but I'd guess some sort of tankie communist.

[–]Merrdank 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If the right is responsible for nazis then the left have to take ownership of the commies

[–]ridl [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

THERE MUST BE EQUIVALENCE. HISTORY MUST BE SYMMETRICAL.

[–]ridl [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Anarchist is far more likely. Not really a lot of communists anymore.

[–]jadenPete -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Racism has reversed

[–]Lurk3rsAnonymous -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And, if anyone dares to defy, he will be beheaded at the town square to set an example.

[–]pshtyoudontknowme [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This is unreal. Liberals really hate 'fucking white maleeees' don't they

[–]MOM_NOT_MUM [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

anyone find her email or twitter yet? dyin to make this bitch wanna kill herself