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Daley Blind is a top-class (with legitimate contention to become world-class) player. (self.reddevils)

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The lads been absolutely incredible this season in a position that is completely foreign to him, but you can see that the experience there is making him a better player. He IS the long term replacement for Carrick. His positional sense wherever he plays is brilliant. He can pick a pass like no one else on the team. Playing CB this season is only improving his defensive capabilities that he can carry on to the midfield when the time comes. He and Schneiderlin are the future of our midfield and it's a brilliant future.

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[–]ryisca 116 ポイント117 ポイント  (10子コメント)

He doesn't get enough credit. He is immense to our team. He is not just a Utility Player either, as people seem to like to call him.

Blind was rated player of the year in the Dutch league at 23 playing as a CDM, coming from Ajax. His vision is fantastic, positioning superb. That's the reason we picked him up. Due to differing circumstances, he has been moved all over. But his natural position is in CM and when he steps up, he always looks solid (even his goal from two games ago was by the instinct of a midfielder not a CB).

I think he can be a top midfielder and I look forward to any opportunity he can get to pair with Schneiderlin in the long run.

[–]Phase_SpacedBrave Mou World 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (7子コメント)

He's a bit like Carrick circa-2006.

Loads of people thought he wasnt a united player just because he was never a showstopper. But his performances were subtle and understated. Over the years he pulled the strings in the middle of the park quietly and efficiently with smart positioning and a good passing range.

Nothing he did ever got you out of your seat. But he became top class.

I certainly see that in Blind. Nothing spectacular. But he's smart, can pick out a pass, and both keeps position / applies pressure off the ball.

Can't wait for him to migrate to CM when we have an actual partnership in central defence... Where both are central defenders!

[–]mountain__pew 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing he did ever got you out of your seat.

The assists that pulled off this season did just that to me.

[–]Shadowbanned24601Formerly /u/colmshan1990 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Carrick transformed United from a team which missed out on the title for the three previous seasons and hadn't made it out last 16 in the Champions League in the same time period.

In his first season United dethroned Mourinho's record breaking Chelsea, reached the FA Cup final and the Champions League semis. In his second season European and English champions, and another two Champions League finals in the following three years.

The difference between that (and modern day) Carrick and Blind is night and day. Carrick was (and is) faster to spot the pass, faster to actually hit the pass and much more consistent. Blind hitting good long balls after taking a couple of touches is not Carrick hitting a first touch forty yard pass straight to the wing to set up a goal (seen this season v CSKA for Rooney's goal).

And Blind absolutely does not keep position. It's his biggest failing at centre back, even beyond his pace or strength.

[–]super_nomadKeane 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The breakout of Ronaldo coinciding with Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, and the best CB pairing in the football world at the time with Vidic and Ferdinand was definitely more influential than Carrick. I think he's a key player for us over the past few seasons, but definitely don't think he was the catalyst for those seasons. Blind is a player who is only getting better, is far more versatile than Carrick, and has a great understanding of the game. I feel you're not giving him a fair shake. He's not the fastest, he's not the strongest, but his ability to use his body and mind to his advantage is really a strong suit and a shockingly uncommon usage in football today. Please don't get me wrong, Carrick is amazing and was a pivotal player for us for years and is still a great player, just don't think you're giving Blind credit where is due.

[–]WRCousCousUnited 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

His goal against Derby got me out of my seat, but... it was Derby. I totally see where you're coming form and think this is a pretty good comparison.

[–]astarkey12Valencia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

His point saving goal at the death against West Ham last year was pretty exciting.

[–]WRCousCousUnited 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love Blind, and love especially his goal last week (a striker's goal). I was joking about people discounting it here because it was "only a championship" side. Blind, to me, is our most valuable acquisition over the last couple of years, so far. Or maybe we are just "papering over the cracks."

sigh

Yes, the goal last year was critical and excellent.

[–]Hitori521 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously it's not like for like but people say similar things about Busquets; how he influences the game so much but all you hear about is Messi, Neymar, Iniesta etc.
I didn't realize til I went to see them at Camp Nou how amazing a player Busquets is. Definitely the best player on the pitch (which contained Messi as well) that day imho.

[–]audienceandaudio 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

As far as ball playing CBs go, Blind is fantastic at passing the ball. There's very few CBs better than him at passing the ball out from the back. Pique, Boateng, Hummels, Ramos, Alonso and Martinez (if they count as CBs) are better than him, but it's a small list of CBs who pass better than him. I'm sure I'm forgetting / underrating a few, but he is very, very good at passing the ball out from defence, for a CB.

Unfortunately for him, his actual ability to defend as a CB is pretty mediocre. There's plenty of CBs in the Premier League alone who are better defenders than him. His positioning and in-game intelligence are mostly good, but if you're a slow and weak, sub 6 foot CB, you've got to be Cannavaro levels of intelligent to make it as a CB, and he's also nowhere near that.

Also unfortunately for him, the list of midfielders who are better passers than him is huge. I won't bother listing any, but there's plenty and plenty of CMs with a better passing range and ability than him. To be a pure 'passer' in midfield, you need to be at Xavi, Pirlo, Scholes levels to make up for contributing nothing else, and he's clearly not at that level. He lacks any sort of physicality to make up for his technical limitations, so he's clearly a long way from being an elite CM.

He's also far too slow to make it as an elite level full-back.

While I like him, and he definitely has his uses, I don't think he can be a CB or a CM for a top level team. Potentially (maybe) he could work quite well as a CB in a back three, as a Libero type player, with two other CBs either side of him to cover for him. However, that's a bit of a dying breed nowadays, and I certainly am not advocating for us to start playing 3 at the back again.

[–]IBENGMBailly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

very very good analysis!! i agree 100% with what you said.

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[–]PdeedbSchweinsteiger 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think that may genuinely be my favourite ever goal (I'm not dutch) because its just so unlike anything I've ever seen.

[–]mankymarblesHerrera 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its my favourite ever goal. The fact I was watching it live definitely makes me fonder of it. I'm also not Dutch. It's a beautiful thing, the pass, the header, the celebration, the opposition, the stage, I love it.

[–]arvindedditOnto 21. 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Blind deserves credit for filling in at centre back and is a great guy to have in our squad for his versatility and footballing sense but you went wayy overboard calling him potentially world class, OP.

[–]jimmyjinterBest 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

OP said he has potential to become world class, not that he is currently potentially world class

[–]lavinator90Valencia -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Same thing, wtf

[–]rdzzlHarrop 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

How is it the same time? Surely that is as far from accurate as can be.

[–]lavinator90Valencia 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Saying "Bob has the potential to be world class" is exactly the same as "Bob is currently potentially world class".

[–]rdzzlHarrop 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes. However, saying "Bob has the potential to be world class" is not the same as saying that "Bob will be world class" or "Bob is world class".

[–]lavinator90Valencia 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes I understand that. No idea why you're bringing it up though. /u/jimmyjinter said neither of the latter two phrases.

[–]arvindedditOnto 21. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you!

[–]Bth-root 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Bob has the potential to become a murderer, so let's give him life in prison..."

[–]lavinator90Valencia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How does that relate to what I said?

[–]Bth-root 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's an analogy that points out how ridiculous it is to equate "potential to be" with "is".

[–]Takley 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (42子コメント)

Nah he wont ever be world class.

Needs to improve a fair bit to at Carricks level in midfield, which of course he could still do, but i dont think him + Schneiderlin are a top tier pairing in terms of playstyle or ability (same with Carrickj + Schneiderlin).

[–]manudevil7Beckham 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (31子コメント)

Who do you think we should sign then? I would like someone like Kroos. A Kroos and Schneiderlin pairing would be good, in my opinion.

[–]OGdankersDe Gea 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (11子コメント)

kroos and schneiderlin would be immense but can we really get kroos?

[–]manudevil7Beckham 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (10子コメント)

He's the most likely to leave Madrid, in my opinion. Madrid have Casemiro, whom Zidane rates very highly, as do the fans.

[–]IBENGMBailly 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Toni Kroos is a key player in the Madrid's team,he is almost always in the starting 11 if he is fit,selling him would be madness and it is very unlikely it will happen! btw Casemiro is a different type of midfielder compared to Toni kroos so he wouldn't be a replacement.

[–]manudevil7Beckham 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Casemiro gives them a defensive presence. Their midfield got overrun by Barca in the El Classico, because Perez decided to play the big name players instead of letting Rafa choose whom would them win the game.

[–]IBENGMBailly 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes Casemiro is more of a defensive midfielder while Kroos is more of a deep lying playmaker who can spread long range passes and a set piece specialist, something which Casemiro is not good at,so like i said he wouldn't be a replacement to Toni Kroos they are different and offer different qualities,Zidane and Real madrid knows this,thats why it would be madness and highly unlikely for them to sell Kroos!

[–]birdy9221Scholes 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Okay okay. We will take Modric.

[–]IBENGMBailly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha..we should have bought Kroos when he was leaving Bayern but then we somehow managed to fuck it up!

[–]OGdankersDe Gea 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

is there any concrete evidence of kroos being linked with a move away?

[–]manudevil7Beckham 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not really, to be honest, aside from the fact that Madrid have too many world class players in midfield, that eventually, someone will want to leave.

[–]LOUISVANGENIUS 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have to disagree immensely every Real Madrid fan recognizes that I know say their biggest weaknesses are at RB and Midfield (aside from CAM where pretty much every attacker can play there). Honestly, they are right because who do they have? Modric who is injured all the time, Kovacic who is unproven but good potential (I don't think he will make it as a starter in Madrid to be honest), Casemiro (who is good but gives way too many fouls), and Kroos who is like a square in round holes playing in that Madrid side. They definitely need reinforcements.

[–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think I read somewhere that Kroos didn't want to come here because he had a bad experience with LVG when at Bayern.

[–]Jameson-14 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Upvoting you for getting my hopes up

[–][deleted] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Kroos, Gundogan, Veratti would all be fantastic.

Andre Gomes as a lower end version but it's dubious whether he's better than Herrera anyway

[–]digitagCarrick 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Paul Scholes

[–]PotatoMussab 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah let's sign Iniesta, Kroos and Modric. It's easy. I did it on FIFA. Come on board of directors! Get your shit together.

[–]owisMartial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Andre Gomes imo. He's a great mix of physical strength and technical ability. He can move our play forward while Morgan shields the back. and he's so young and already so good. He's one of Valencia's best players and with the way they are right now and the links we have, he's definitely obtainable.

[–]testbug0what's the Mata? 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Funnily enough that you should mention Gomes, with a Herrera flair. Aren't they similar styled players? The Herrera we saw in Spain at least. Do you think he's an upgrade to Herrera?

[–]owisMartial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're similar yes but there's differences. Andre is a lot stronger and he knows how to use it. I also rate his close control better. He also loves spraying lovely long balls verses Herrera's quicker short passes. He goes on great dribbles taking the ball forward and he can take challenges while doing that. Plus he's much younger.

[–]ImperitoMartial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pjanic?

[–]spoofexKing Cantona 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ruben Neves aand Tielemans are both highly rated. As a pairing they could learn a lot from Herrera, Bastian and Schneiderlin.

[–]rdzzlHarrop 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My Belgian friend tells me Tielemans is stagnating quite a bit. Apparently struggling to get as much game time as he needs too. Not sure how accurate that is, but yeah.

[–]iSubyPereira 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Parejo is a good call imo

[–]TudoorsScholes -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, Kroos is a player I would never want to see in a United Shirt. He has an attitude problem, and is lethargic. His passing ability is immense, but he does not track back as much as he should as essentially a "pivot" for Real Madrid. Kroos is falling under the pecking order, and he should not be. The lad is a talent, but does not have the work ethic it takes to cut it in the premier league. He is old enough as he is not going to change any time soon.

[–]chickensoup1Beckham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

How do you know he has an attitude problem? Or that he's lethargic? I agree he doesn't track back too much but that's because Real rarely use an actual defensive midfielder, and he isn't one, so judging him on his defensive ability isn't fair. It's generally a midfield of Modric/James/Kroos and none of those are defensive midfielders.

And he's just after turning 26?! How is that old enough? If anything he's going into his best years. I would love Kroos in our team, Schneiderlin do the defensive duties and Kroos beside him.

[–]TudoorsScholes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's been well documented by media outlets that Kroos has a poor attitude. It started while at Bayern, and meanwhile it has continued to go on in Spain. Guardiola did not want to deal with it so he shipped him off to Madrid. He is lethargic as you see in his work rate. He does not track back, and I don't care what team you are, you cannot get away with only one dedicated box to box midfielder in the Premier League. You can't get away with what Real Madrid do in the Premier League. When I say he's too old I mean he's too old to change his attitude, please read what I say before spouting nonsense.

[–]chickensoup1Beckham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's been well documented by media outlets that Kroos has a poor attitude.

Show me a source of that? I've also never seen anything about him having a bad attitude at Madrid. Rumours alright of his agent saying that he deserves more respect, but nothing about his attitude.

He was sold not because "Guardiola didn't want to deal with him", but because he wanted higher wages along the likes of Ribery, Robben etc as he felt he was worth more to the club. Guardiola wanted him to stay.

Why does his consistently get games for Germany and Madrid if he's lethargic as you say?

And no, you didn't make it clear in your original post about him being too old to change his attitude.

[–][deleted] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

He's barely had a single good game in midfield for us. OP is ridiculous, pure top red bollocks

[–]daveyp2tm 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As soon as I read this topic I was hoping you'd reply :D. You've been quite gentle though, I'll have to put the popcorn away.

[–]Lost_And_NotFoundJones 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's a lie. There was a short period near the beginning of the 2014/15 season where he had a few very good games as a DM, I remember MOTD even doing a piece highlighting him. However in general I would agree he is much better in defence than in midifeld.

[–]testbug0what's the Mata? 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I vaguely remember those games, but they were against weak opposition that didn't pressure him and gave him all the time in the world to play his passes.

[–]Lost_And_NotFoundJones -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes that's exactly why I think he's best in defence because he has more time to pick his passes

[–]testbug0what's the Mata? 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But then he can be a liability in defence...

/u/audienceandaudio's post sums it up well

[–]Huge_Bob_Ross_Fan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we will really struggle to replace Carrick. He is so smart in his positioning both going forward and defensively, great vision, and places the right pass almost all of the time. I hope Schweinsteiger can ease the load of Carrick's eventual departure/retirement.

[–]reborned1996Injured Jones 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

too early to judge if he is gonna be a world class , but i would consider current carrick a main factor in any world class team . Sometimes you don't need flashy world-class players in the team to make the team plays the best football.

[–]manudevil7Beckham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We definitely need to find a replacement for Carrick, though. He's getting up there in age, and he won't be around for too much longer.

[–]noob_senpai 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know if he can actually become world-class, but he can certainly become one of the best utility players, who could play for pretty much any team in various positions. I think he improved a lot by now, so if he continues he can become incredibly valuable for the team, if he isn't already (I mean there are certainly doubters).

[–]AMAaboutAMartial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That'ss the thing, he just keeps improving. Nobody will know when he stops improving

[–]CatFoodBeerAndGluePaul Scholes, he scores goals 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

World class? Come on now, let's not get carried away.

[–]PotatoMussab 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why not, who do you think was holding our midfield together last season? Herrera? Pfft.

[–]MrDaebak 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dont forget about the 2 world class assists he gave at the world cup. Here's a scoutnation video of Dailey Blind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-81VUkqsEs

[–]budget03Vidić 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

His complete lack of pace is what holds him back

[–]selotipkusutMartial, Martial, Running Down The Wing 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He only needs to develop his physique and agility, and he's all set. I swear as a player who's playing out of position he reads the game far better than most CB's.

[–]hitpopMemphis 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think it does him justice calling him John Oshea 2.0 Blind is class

[–]heybra2107th, 4th...1st. 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree entirely. I was hard on him about a month ago (called him a lazy footballer), but that's only because he doesn't seem to be as prepared in certain situations. I think he's marvelous in technique, but he doesn't read the game as well as he could, and I think that comes down to practice. But given a couple years, best case scenario, he could be arguably the top holding midfielder.

[–]G_Morgan 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (15子コメント)

He's decent and a useful player but he's short on two things to be world class, one unobtainable:

  1. The physicals - Compare Blind to Busquets. Busquets is taller and heavier which makes the defensive aspect easier. Blind makes up for it with intelligence somewhat but Busquets has both.

  2. Vision - Look at his passing compared to Carrick's. Admittedly part of this is also physical. Carrick is able to use his body to give himself extra time on the ball and play a better pass.

I rate Blind but I think he is one of those players who is useful for a top tier squad but will never be seen as a world class player.

[–]TWPDSneijder 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Physicals - Compare Blind to Busquets.

Busquets may be reasonably tall, but he's far, far away from physical. A bit like Carrick actually - he may be tall, but he certainly doesn't play tall.

Vision

Probably one of his best attributes actually. I'd like to see how well Blind would go in Carrick's role, since he would have more opportunity to play forward passes.

His problem lies in his lack of pace, aggression and height though, technically he's very good

[–]G_Morgan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A bit like Carrick actually - he may be tall, but he certainly doesn't play tall.

Both Carrick and Busquets will use their size to shield the ball appropriately. It gives them an extra half second. I've seen Blind shoved off the ball in those situations.

Blind is good at generally recycling the ball but he doesn't play particularly solid attacking balls from DM. He played there last year and was alright. From CB or LWB his distribution is quite good.

[–]TWPDSneijder 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

he doesn't play particularly solid attacking balls from DM. He played there last year and was alright. From CB or LWB his distribution is quite good

Hard to tell to be honest. His distribution and long/attacking passing has evidently improved a lot this year, but it's hard to judge what it will be like until he gets games at DM. I do hope he plays there in upcoming weeks though; Personally I don't see him as the long-term option for midfield, but having said that I'd love to be proven wrong.

[–]edblumquist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

His vision is just as good as carricks

[–]theronzzFellaini's #1 fan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Busquets is technically miles ahead of Blind too. Blind has a decent first touch, Busquets has one of the best in the world, as complimented by Xavi himself.

[–]knoxisbackBlind 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

? Blind's vision and passing are fucking incredible. Physically he's been able to do a job at CB which can translate to better job in holding midfield when his physicality needs to be called upon. Either way, players like Pirlo dispel the idea that players absolutely need the physical edge. Intelligence and technical ability are more important. I have doubts too about Blind becoming WC but he's definitely capable.

[–]theronzzFellaini's #1 fan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ither way, players like Pirlo dispel the idea that players absolutely need the physical edge.

Pirlo gets away with that because he had 2 midfielders alongside supporting him at Juventus. You don't get that luxury in our current system.

Pirlo would get run over in midfield without the extra support.

[–][deleted] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Incredible my arse.

Xavi, Messi, Pirlo and Scholes are incredible passers of the ball.

If Blind could pass the ball and had the vision of those four we wouldn't be having this conversation because he'd already be the best midfielder in world football.

[–]knoxisbackBlind -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

?

I mentioned Pirlo as an EXAMPLE of someone who relies on technical ability, making the argument that physicality is an important factor when determining the quality of a CDM is narrow-minded. Also, yea, he's already and incredible passer of the ball. His only problem when he played there last season was how quickly he could pass the ball out when in possession (he's afforded more time to do that as a CB now). Ideally, that should improve. But in terms of overall vision and passing ability he's fantastic.

[–]Xanian123 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

His vision and passing is fucking incredible? Capable of becoming WC? And you're comparing his passing to Pirlo's?

You're having a fucking laugh mate.

[–]knoxisbackBlind 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm not comparing their passing. I'm saying that technical ability alone can make you a very good playmaker from deep, ideally what Blind's role will be in the future. And even then he has the appropriate physicality.

Ofc he's capable of becoming WC you fucking nonce. And yea his passing is incredible you're deluded if you can't see that lol. Literally the reason he plays CB is so he can distribute the ball from the back. We rely on him more than people like you think

[–]Xanian123 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Technical ability alone won't get you anywhere without the passing range or physical ability to go with it. Literally the only reason he plays cb is because our defense has no one who can both pass and defend. Lack of options in the team suddenly doesn't make him an incredible ball playing defender. You must have a very liberal definition of world class if you think blind is anywhere near world class. And personal attacks, way to stay classy.

[–]knoxisbackBlind 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

How does Blind not have the passing range or physical ability fucktard? Have you not seen any of the penetrating passes he makes? To mention one as an example, Memphis' goal against Sunderland was an example of how he can needle through passes from range. Never said he was near world class, said he was capable of becoming world class. Learn to read. And ye if you're a genuine retard you will get insulted. Don't cry tho, its ok to be stupid :]

[–]Xanian123 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

ok

[–]knoxisbackBlind 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

quality response lmao

[–]squeaky_rum_timeScholes 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Whoever came up with this opinion must be having a laugh. Top class? World class? Lol!! People really need to understand the difference between passing the ball in midfield under pressure and passing it out from the back when not pressed. Blind has a GOOD range of passing, one made easier by the lack of pressure on him when he has the ball at CB. Last season, he played as a CDM in a few games and his limitations became quite obvious to see. Earlier this season, for Holland, he played a few more games at CDM and again, he was awful. So seriously now, quit while you are ahead!!

And lets not even get into his defensive frailties which have cost us on more than one occasion this season. While I agree that he is a wonderful utility player to have, to call him the heir of Carrick is just laughable and really does show your limited understanding of the game.

[–]danskzwag[🍰] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Carrick has been more protected blind was played in a diamond with almost no protection

[–]Xanian123 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Quite simply, what you said is untrue. He is nowhere near top class. Just take the last game, there were many occasions where he was caught out of position, trying to get the ball far away from his defensive line inspite of him not having the pace to cover any of his mistakes. His passing is good, nowhere on Carrick's level though. For us to play him in midfield alongside Schneiderlin would require him to have an all expansive passing range on the levels of Scholes, Kroos or even Fabregas for that matter. Take off your red tinted glasses.

He is a very, very good squad rotation option but there is very little chance that he will be anything more than that once Van Gaal strengthens the back four with a ball playing defender. There are loads of central midfielders who are better at passing and positioning than Blind. He is 25 BTW, not some 21-22 year old who has a lot of time to improve his game. Carrick was miles better than Blind when he made the switch from Tottenham.

[–]manudevil7Beckham 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most definitely. CB is not even his preferred position, and he has been playing well. If we keep the current formation, I want to see him play with Scneiderlin in the midfield. We need to sign a world class CB to make that happen, though.

[–]testbug0what's the Mata? 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The lads been absolutely incredible this season in a position that is completely foreign to him,

What position exactly is this..?

[–]xtfftcValencia 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol

[–]teddyrooMartial 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Blind is pretty average. Granted, his positional sense is alright, but he doesn't have any outstanding physical attributes and can't dictate play. He's at best a good utility player.

[–]Muppetxvan Nistelrooy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He can't dictate play? The first ever game he played for United against QPR he dictated the whole game.

[–]teddyrooMartial 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hardly a quality opposition

[–]Muppetxvan Nistelrooy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True but I was more trying to say that he dictated the play in his first ever game for us.

[–]youareblind 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I usually just read Reddit and enjoy everyone's opinions, I didn't have an account and didn't comment, even when things really annoyed me.

But this article has driven me to sign up. It's ridiculous.

Daley Blind is not top class. He wouldn't be first choice CB, LB or DM at any top Champions League club.

He's Phil Neville with nicer hair, that's it, and that's being kind. Don't call him John O'Shea 2.0 because he's nowhere near as good as O'Shea was, if only the Irishman had been Dutch and better looking.

Johan Cruyff said he wouldn't be able to play in the Prem as a midfielder, nevermind for a CL aspirational club. He's alright at passing, but under pressure he falls to pieces.

In defence he's probably the reason we fall to pieces so much when the midfield isn't set up to completely protect the central defenders. He drifts out to LB position repeatedly and into a DM position, which leaves midfielders having to cover for him and the LB having to move over, which drags the LW back and invites further pressure which he's not able to match up to.

He watches, he simply watches the attack go on around him repeatedly, he puts the mildest pressure on players as they glide past him. Trying to encourage them away from goal, gently, hoping for someone else, usually the LB or Smalling, to save him.

And Smalling is dragged out through Blind's wandering too, the CBs should work as a pair continually throughout a game, and their positions should complement, impossible with Blind.

He's good at passing because everything is so slow. His balls are so slow that LVG could write the alphabet in his book before they reach their destination, meaning the player who receives the ball is immediately under pressure.

He's weak, but doesn't have the advantage of being swift in his movement of many weak players. If he wasn't Dutch football royalty, because of his father, he wouldn't be anywhere near Man United.

Many Man United fans somehow think he's some kind of football genius, and it's a fashionable opinion to have, but couldn't be more wrong.

Slow, weak, lacking the top technical ability to make up for that, predictable, the on-pitch charisma of a goat, no taking responsibility, a floater.

Apart from that, he's an alright squad player.

[–]mink_manMourinho -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP you're saying he's the heir to carrick yet he's not even played there this year. Also he hasn't been absolutely incredible. He's been ok. He's caused a few goals trying to come out from the back and could have caused more (remember the 1v1 against west ham?). He was also at fault for the Derby goal last week.

[–]theatreofdreams21 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We've hardly seen him in CM. I think he potentially has the tools to be a great player there, but I'd shy away from calling him world class anytime soon. Regardless, there's little chance that he pairs with Schneiderlin as our future midfield pair. I have a feeling we bring someone else in in the not too distant future.

[–]WildVarietyNani 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's good. Very good. But I don't think he'll ever be world class. He doesn't consistently play 1 position (for anyone). He's always either at CB, LB or CM.

It wasn't too long ago that Ajax fans thought he was terrible, either. It was only when he was moved to LB with a new manager that he started to play well for them.

[–]MrDaebak 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah but to be fair, after that he hasnt been terrible anymore, he trained hard and improved. you cant keep that against him

[–]jjjkongSmalling[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think to be fair he is not the best CB we can have but people have to remember hes not meant to be put there for long. He is definitely gonig to partner Schneiderlin instead of Smalling in the future, and letting him play CB now actually helps him growth as a midfielder.

We'll have to see whether or not he can be world class tbh, but currently hes undeniably a very valuable asset of the team, and would only be even more important to us in the future.

[–]ProletariusMaximus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think our best midfield at the moment is Blind behind Herrera and Schneiderlin. He's just so smart.

[–]Illum503Mourinho 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You said the same about Memphis.

It's hard to figure out which one you're more wrong about.

[–]Plonkerface4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be a world class player you need to excel in almost every attribute. With a top speed of -1.25KPH Blind will never be deemed world class, irrespective of how good his positional sense is without being able to cover across the width of the pitch you cant trust him in midfield. (wont be the most popular comment but the proof is in last season... far too many times teams went straight through the middle due to Blind's incapability of sprinting) Its also happened him several times this season...example... Champions League loss to PSV.

[–]lecoqdezellwillerCantona 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a midfielder playing in defense and when defending as a defender he defends like a midfielder. It is a massive liability, great passer and great on the ball.

[–]sludj5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is playing at CB and LB really the best thing for him if he's the heir to Carrick, though? I would rather we were in the position to step him up to midfield as soon as possible.

[–]kusendahlIbrahimovic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everybody that has watched us this season has seen that he has been top3 without a doubt. He has held a high level all season regardless what position he has played. I am very impressed and hope he stays even after LVG leaves.

[–]fadednegativeBerbatov 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Amen nigga! He's a joy to watch, it's true. Very smooth passing. Nothing more aesthetically and intrinsically pleasing, despite not being flashy.

[–][deleted] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The lads been absolutely incredible this season

No he really hasn't, this is complete reactionary bullshit, he has been exposed multiple times this season

[–]Plonkerface4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank god someone else around here agree's with me... He has cost us several matches this season due to his lack of pace and strength. PSV and Swansea to name just 2. its amazing what two decent games can do for someone's rep. Does anyone not remember how shit he was in midfield last season?

[–]FURyannnnScholes -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No he's not. He's a good squad player/occasional starter. His versatility is a huge bonus, but his positional awareness at times is cringe inducing. His anticipation sometimes makes up for it, but not always.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have him, but to call him top-class does a disservice to other players who are legitimately in that tier.

[–]BHButcherKing Eric 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

He's started 20 out of 24 games for us this season in the PL. 2 more from the bench. 5/6 in the CL. He's really not a squad player. He's much more to us. Not that I'm complimenting him here. Says more about our own level but he is having a great season

[–]Xanian123 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's started so many games because our defense is a clusterfuck of injuries and has been so for the large part of our season.

[–]BHButcherKing Eric 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You actually think if Jones and Rojo come back from injury, they'll take Blinds spot at CB? No chance. They'd have to fight for spot for weeks and have to be at their bests to take it back

[–]Xanian123 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jones plays with Smalling when he is fit more often than not. Go check it out.