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[–]CSGO-DemoReviews 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (37子コメント)

This cheeky prick took his blog offline and posted some anime video in its place. Real funny.

If only someone downloaded all of his blog posts before it went offline. Oh wait, I did.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ozww7xd6uee286n/Daniel%27s_Blog.html

Cliff notes:

  1. Daniel jones legit Github page: http://imgur.com/a/VQ36n
  2. McSwaggens, Aimtux dev page: http://imgur.com/a/BuAHT
  3. Why tf would the Aimtux developer make his real name so easily available?
  4. Both Daniel Jones' are fluent with Linux and C++ according to Github and /u/daniel_j- post history
  5. Both are from South Australia, one saying Melbourne, the other saying Adelaide.

Side note, I don't know if I would say "cheat mastermind" considering VAC does not even run on Linux :P

Edit: I spoke with /r/go mods and they are aware of this post. To my knowledge they are going to look in to this guys history.

[–]miltonjackson 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Did he take that website down just now?

[–]CSGO-DemoReviews 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

He took it down while I was reading through it, but I had already saved it as soon as I loaded the site. It was definitely taken down after this post was made.

[–]miltonjackson 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

wow, that is like an admission of guilt. This to be a coincidence would be astronomical unlikely.

[–]spacecwb 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

also the fact that the new page says "nothing to mcsee here"

like cmon

[–]CSGO-DemoReviews 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Probably reading the comments, he just put the site back up LOL

[–]miltonjackson 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe its the guy who made this thread. Dosent have a real history. Definitly a alt acc. Publicity stunt for his page..

[–]D3vildog[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmmm What page exactly am I trying to shill?

Also I delete most of my posts with a script after a while so I don't get stalked.

He links that site on his Steam account, go look at it bud.

[–]Monso 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (16子コメント)

That "cheeky prick" likely took his blog offline because airing out personal information amidst a heavy accusation is not a wise move. Things like this have the real capability of getting huge, quick, and a personal blog full of personal information is the last thing I would want in the crossfire.

What I understand from a cursory look-over: they have the same name, location, and developmental interests. Alrighty, here we go: Dan's name is found easily enough, copypasta into GitHub name box, boom done. The location can be easily faked - if you know Linux & C++, you probably have a decent idea of how geoip works...and if not, a 10 minute google can teach you everything you need to know; second-nature google-fu for a developer. Full disclosure: I don't know how GitHub gets this information, I figure it's either supplied information or geoip located. Either or, both are simply spoofable.

What I'm left with is this dude and Daniel both share an interest in Linux and C++...yeah I'm afraid that's not a remotely conclusive platform to stand on if you, I or anybody is going to accuse someone of developing cheats.

Disclaimer: I fully expect to be downvoted to hell for applying critical thinking in a witchhunt.

[–]bhp5 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Daniel both share an interest in Linux and C++

And both are deeply involved with csgo, but yea I agree with your sentiment.

[–]D3vildog[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Also both use Arch Linux and i3. Both use similar coding style, I mentioned that in my post.

He has been using Daniel Jones as a name for a long time, check his YouTube as well.

[–]bhp5 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Also both use Arch Linux and i3.

Where did you get this info? Also I noticed in the Aimtux thread on unknowncheats that McSwaggens is using cl_righthand 0, which is what daniel_j uses also except the resolutions are different

[–]D3vildog[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

mcswaggens.com ctrl+f for i3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfk2Wp1XiMA

Video of McSwaggens using arch

go on the blog for the comparison

[–]bhp5 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok... thats a really weird coincidence, same distro, same neckbeard window manager.

[–]Monso 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dan's blog says he uses an i7, so.......

I've been informed his window manager is i3 so there's that. I am dumb.

[–]CSGO-DemoReviews 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Why would he put his blog back online after it being down for 30-40min if he wanted to hide his personal info?

To the best of my knowledge I couldn't find a smoking gun for this cheeky prick but I hope you acknowledge that there is enough here to have a discussion with him as a mod. I skimmed through his post history and the guy seems like a good mod. I am hoping you will take 30min of your time to skim through the internal discussions you have had with him to see if any alarms are raised, as well as have a discussion with him If you don't have time to talk with him, tell him to hit me up in PM and I will gladly have a skype call with him.

Both accounts are well versed in linux, c++, from the same area, have the same name, loosely alternate github activity between accounts, use the same linux distro and window manager. This is enough to be suspicious.

The names on the github and youtube channel could be bait, or faked and that is why I am trying to find out the date that the name was set, or if there is any other relevant information that links the two accounts. I hope you also perform your own investigation.

[–]Monso -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Why would he put his blog back online after it being down for 30-40min if he wanted to hide his personal info?

Being scared of what the irrational hatred of cheaters that thousands of people produce will do that...aforementioned gets big quick, it's safest to take it down first and formulate how to proceed after. Being a mod (ie high profile accusation) influences that further.

To the best of my knowledge I couldn't find a smoking gun for this cheeky prick but I hope you acknowledge that there is enough here to have a discussion with him as a mod. I skimmed through his post history and the guy seems like a good mod. I am hoping you will take 30min of your time to skim through the internal discussions you have had with him to see if any alarms are raised, as well as have a discussion with him If you don't have time to talk with him, tell him to hit me up in PM and I will gladly have a skype call with him.

We are investigating.

Both accounts are well versed in linux, c++, from the same area, have the same name, loosely alternate github activity between accounts, use the same linux distro and window manager. This is enough to be suspicious.

Name and area can't be considered, anybody can put anything there. They have the same linux distro, that's true. We have two people that share interest in development with skills in c++ that also have the same linux distro. Suspicious, sure I agree (ipso facto our investigation), but this still falls very well short of conclusive and anybody regarding it with any level of conclusive credibility [in its current state] leads credence to nothing more than an emotional bias.

The names on the github and youtube channel could be bait, or faked and that is why I am trying to find out the date that the name was set

The date would still plausibly be irrelevant. If it's set 2 days ago or a year and a half ago doesn't matter, you can put anything there and one could've grabbed Dan's name at any time. They could've been set within minutes of eachother and it would still be inconclusive. If I put your name on my Steam profile, it doesn't mean I'm you...if I wait 18 months with your name on my profile, I'm still not you.

[–]D3vildog[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why are you talking for him?

If he's a public official for a community, why is he hiding?

[–]Monso -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If he's a public official for a community, why is he hiding?

Because he doesn't want to comment? Because it's probably not going to be worth it? Because it would give you and whoever else wants to accuse first and rationally deliberate afterwards a clean crisp target for abuse? Because it'll just stir the pot? Because he's confident the truth will prevail regardless of his presence? Better yet, here's an ABSOLUTELY INSANE MOUSELIFT VACSHOT from the topleft corner of my brain: because it's 5:30 in the morning, lol? I don't know, dude, I'm not Dan. I'm Monso.

I'm publicizing my own personal opinion based on the information presented. Is that ok? Am I allowed to do that?

edit elaborated

[–]D3vildog[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He was in the thread earlier, we know because he was changing his website based on our comments. Also I went on his IRC and he was in there a short while ago.

It would be very simple to proof us wrong, yet he does not do it even after being told multiple times.

Instead, a random reddit white-knight Another Moderator from /r/GlobalOffensive comes to defend his name. Do you work on Aimtux too bud?

[–]Monso -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A little perspective: I'm "defending" Dan [via personal opinion], therefore I work on the cheat too? Okie dokie buderino.

Let me ask you: how badly do you want this to be true? Pretty bad I reckon, to stretch the witchhunt this far.

Let's just entertain an idea: 5:30 in the morning is not a pleasant time to engage an argument and jump through your hoops. Because if I were in his shoes, jumping through 1 hoop would compel me to jump through another, and if/when I refuse to (via patience, asinine bullshit or what have you), you have (from your perspective) irrefutable evidence that what you're claiming at the time is true. Yeah, not a road I would want to go down. Regardless, you are making the accusation, the onus is on you to prove it, not for someone else to prove you wrong; that's not how this works. But hey, if you want to accuse first and make someone else think about it for you later, that's your prerogative and you can do that.

I'm gonna take a page out of Dan's book and dip out; let me know if something compelling comes to light.

You guys have fun.

edit minor elaboration, now ima dip.

[–]etacovda 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck me you're a salty cunt for a mod. Not to mention immature with all your meme spouting. Global offensive is such a cess pit when cheating is actively hidden. It's a real laugh.

[–]CSGO-DemoReviews 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm glad to hear that you are looking in to it.

If the name on the Mcswaggen account was set 18 months ago, before Daniel became an admin, it is reasonable to assume that the Aimtux developer did not set that name as bait.

This doesn't rule out the fact that it is a pretty common name and it is possible that they legitimately have the same name.

[–]acidranger 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope you are going to put together a presentation on all of this :D

[–]bhp5 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both are from South Australia, one saying Melbourne, the other saying Adelaide.

Melbourne is in the state of Victoria not South Australia, although if you were to be using a VPN you quite likely could be using a Melbourne server because of the close distance to South Australia/Adelaide

[–]el_vper 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I spoke with /r/go mods and they are aware of this post. To my knowledge they are going to look in to this guys history.

That's with the preconception that he's the only one who's compromised. For all we know it goes deeper. Even if they ban and remove him, can you trust it? If he isn't the only one, he could return under a different account and we're back to square one. This story proves the absolute necessity of lowering the CSGO subs' censorship. Censorship is forbidden and fought against in Western countries for a reason, censorship never leads to anything good. I don't mind that they suppress baseless / explainable cheating accusations, but things beyond that is not OK. They've even gone as far as (temporary) closing threads about pro players who received a VAC (!!!).

Proof: https://np.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/50q2gy/team_lithuania_and_huehue_player_meesha_has_been/d7676zy/

Edit: that thread was originally locked by a mod named "Vinck", under the rule "spam" (!!!) obvious BS reason. The original removal comment even mentioned that a ban on a Steam profile can not be proof of cheating (!!!), are you kidding me??? It was quite a shitshow I can tell you, I was experiencing it live back then. Sidenote, per sources, that mod had also banned a Valve dev (Jess Cliffe) before - speaking of censorship...I really wonder what a Valve dev could say "wrong" to warrant a ban...

Note, that the message explaining the lock is placed after locking (see link), thus they can say whatever they want (I've always strongly felt like it was a ridiculous reason for locking). Who's to say that this wasn't another action to try to suppress cheating news? And that they simply unlocked it again because this was too big of a thing to be able to suppress?

A fair number of Youtube and other famous personalities have also been banned from the CSGO sub (both their account and content) in the past (and still?), which again could be because of mods with hidden agendas who try to suppress certain things for whatever reason. A few years ago there was a scandal about mods who got paid to represent the hidden agendas. Youtuber A can basically bribe a mod / mods to disallow posts about competing Youtuber B, how do you prevent that? By not allowing such censorship. Youtuber B would be the first to suddenly get banned out of the blue.

Some will call me saying this a "conspiracy theory", but it's a possibility. Even if you'd call the chance tiny, I repeat, that still leaves a possibility. That's why censorship in many places is highly frowned upon. Without censorship people with hidden agendas still have some power but limited, while as you increase censorship you increase the power of people with hidden agendas. Just 3 weeks ago I had a conversation with one of the CSGO mods relating to CSGO mods being compromised by the cheating industry (and first actually talked to him about it 7 months, coincidentally (?) shortly before I got banned from the CSGO sub), I ultimately gave him the benefit of the doubt and deleted my messages about it. Thus only his side can be seen anymore but I think D3vildogs post proves the danger of compromised mods controlling the narrative and suppressing certain things, and thus the need for a downgrade in censorship. https://np.reddit.com/r/VACsucks/comments/60mbfw/nonprime_matchmaking/dfe8y39/

[–]thebigman43 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They've even gone as far as (temporary) closing threads about pro players who received a VAC (!!!).

Because, like the comment says, they wanted to actually confirm that it was in CSGO.

[–]el_vper 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Which is a BS excuse since a pro player getting VAC banned in a different game also is news plus it's impossible to find out for which game a VAC is rofl... (without a Valve confirmation) It's the most BS excuse as they come, it's a clear, "hold on a sec while we figure out what to do with this". And the post got first removed under the rule "spam".

[–]thebigman43 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

FaceIt confirmed the ban was for CS, they put the post back. Chill

[–]bonerl0rd 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yo myles:

Main account: http://steamcommunity.com/id/imnotstraightatall/

Here is an alt account of his: http://steamcommunity.com/id/imnotgayatall

Notice the naming similarities.

Also here is more proof linking the two githubs:

http://i.imgur.com/SOt5DYw.png

http://i.imgur.com/4Llnax3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5DNEBat.png

edit: screenshot of daniel jones stackoverflow with name mcswaggens in pic: http://i.imgur.com/CD7YeT8.png

There is also a mcswaggens stackoverflow account thats completely seperate. http://i.imgur.com/ho7AfqM.png

[–]catcher6250 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

With this news there is now evidence giving credibility to the idea that cheating accusations are being censored with malicious intent within the globaloffensive subreddit. I hope the moderators there publicly acknowledge that they have a moderator of the subreddit actively participating in the production of cheats.

[–]Yaspan 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I really do not find this surprising at all, it is very clear that the /r/GlobalOffensive mods do not want anyone talking about cheating in CS GO

[–]MDEARING 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No "Witchhunting"

(Yikes)

[–]Jonfromwork 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No Witchhunting in a game infested with Witches

[–]forthegiggles1 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

LMAO. If this is real you are a great guy. A++++++

[–]D3vildog[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This Wayback archive doesn't contain his reddit link because it's not very recent.

However it contains his Steam account

https://web.archive.org/web/20161021164334/https://danieljon.es/

[–]John_Dankovich 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like he took his website down. Did anyone take a screenshot of it linking his Steam and stuff?

[–]ThePurge010 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This needs more exposure. Almost all of the subreddits become corrupt after a while.

[–]BaSkA_LEM 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty cool. I love when cheaters don't admit they do it (:

10/10

[–]bhp5 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

did a bit of digging into their steam profiles, github profiles and web sites... I personally don't think they are the same person, it seems a really weird coincidence tho.

[–]D3vildog[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah there's a lot of coincidences. They use the same Linux Distro and Window manager as well.

It would be really easy for Daniel to come in the thread and post that it's not him and some proof. I know multiple people have told him already.

[–]Tydefc 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have no idea if they are the same person but I know Daniel Jones is The real name of McSwaggens, could be a different Daniel Jones I guess

[–]pacmantheVACman 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this is hilarious. good work.

[–]bhp5 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you ask about it on his IRC he bans you, lel

[–]Tydefc 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is your name on gitter? I used to be a part of Tux a while back but I went clean.

[–]Max_Stern 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

LMAO
/r/globaloffensive is incompetent anyway, expected

[–]el_vper 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now take a guess why they suppress cheating news so much ;) even when there's proof.

Edit: I'll also mention that I got banned from the CSGO sub for cheating related posts, while I never posted any of the very explainable clips that often get posted in this VACsucks sub. I always was very vocal about cheating related issues, and thus would be one of the prime targets of mods looking to suppress cheating related news. Example of a cheating related post like which I made similar ones several times. https://np.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/51ianu/the_cheating_problem_in_semipro_and_valves/

[–]Snapish 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's possible someone did it all just to try and slander a mod. Not likely but I'm just saying you can't rule it out

[–]h4ndo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just no.

The moderators on that sub are a joke.

[–]Tydefc 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know Daniel Jones is McSwaggens.

Source: Used to be part of Tux

[–]YxxzzY 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol guess that wasn't a conspiracy after all.

fucking bs.

[–]loli_esports 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aimtux is literally a memecheat

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    [–]SinoopsPEN PINEAPPLE APPLE PEN 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    r/globaloffensive is definitely a pillar if not a small one of the csgo community.

    [–]D3vildog[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    /r/globaloffensive admins are quick to take the moral highground.

    I find it funny.

    [–]Lan_Del -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Um, sorry but South Australia and Melbourne are two completely different places. I'm not saying it's not him, just that they're about the same distance as NYC to the Virginia/NC border.

    [–]bonerl0rd -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    not to mention he is a gold nova lol