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[–]partot 151 ポイント152 ポイント  (28子コメント)

TIL its autistic to not play vidya.

edit: who am I kidding? its reddit.

[–]SquashedBeef 65 ポイント66 ポイント  (21子コメント)

The criticism here is that people are blaming video games for their problems. That and many posts on this sub further validate the social stigma against playing video games. I mean a lot of posts here are people who are proud about reading a fiction book or watching Netflix instead of playing a videogame, when I don't really see how those 2 things are any different. There are games like KSP or any number of puzzle games that I would argue are potentially more beneficial and enriching that watching TV or reading Harry Potter.

I have no problems with some people simply wanting to kick a habit but this sub has a very "video games are terrible" vibe to it.

[–]ampersandie 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's not the video games themselves that anyone is blaming, we're blaming ourselves for our lack of time management and allowing ourselves to binge play for 7+ hours a day. Addiction can mean ANYTHING, for us it just happens to mean gaming. The folks here just want to spend their free time doing other things, what's so wrong about that?

[–]SquashedBeef 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Nothing wrong with that. I fully support those wanting to kick an addiction. But a lot of the "progress" people make here is simply substituting gaming for a different form of time-wasting, rather than actually working towards better self-discipline and productivity. Hence why people see this as a sub as just a "video games are bad" community. Again if people simply want to diversify their hobbies then that's fair enough, but then the brute-force approach of cutting out all games entirely just seems a little excessive. Instead of that simply cutting out the addictive ones like LoL or Dota, or whatever game is causing you those addictions, seems like a reasonable approach.

When I was revising for my A-levels, Call of Duty was a problem for me. My solution was to stick the game in a box and visited my Grandmother's house, and then left the box there so I physically couldn't access it. I kept the other games because I wasn't physically addicted to them and they could serve as a nice reward after doing a good revision session.

[–]ampersandie 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nothing wrong with that. I fully support those wanting to kick an addiction.

Okay, end of story. Cutting out games entirely might sound excessive to you but for some it's the answer they need. Just live and let live?

[–]-Placid- 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I suppose in his eyes, you might be inadvertently promoting a 'harmful' idea, in the following sense.

For some, V-gaming be a form of escapism that cannot be found in other media. For others, maybe V-gaming offers nothing more than traditional media. Everyone's different, right? But I don't think this nuance can be encapsulated in a sub that's called itself r/StopGaming . Hence the suggestion to change it to r/StopAddiction (or something of the sort).

Imagine if Chess had been invented in the late 80s on a computer. Denying oneself the ability to play this game may deprive you of great fulfillment. By sheer good fortune, we don't live in that universe. Who knows how many other Chess-like pastimes await us if we could temper our addictions, rather than stamping them out entirely.

Again -- everyone's different -- so this might not be feasible for most people in this sub. But the essence of this sub seems antithetical to such nuance. Something that worries me (and without wanting to speak for him directly, seems to worry /u/SquashedBeef too).

[–]knacksie3 days 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You seem to forget (like I do all the time!) one simple truth: People are different. Some of us are just that much more suspect to over eating, over gaming or in general over indulging.

Replacing an activity we feel no control over and that eats up hours of our days, often pushing something important to the wayside (like A-levels, jobs, spouses) is a no-brainer.

As to whether the activities, that we use to fill up the void left from gaming, are a 'different form of time-wasting' or not, personal I guess. For me, drawing and learning a language and guitar are very much a different animal compared to gaming.

[–]Dsnake1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd argue that replacing an addiction with a series of 'wasted time activities' that aren't another addiction is a step in the right direction. Sure, the time isn't spent more productively, but if someone calls and asks you to go out, you don't feel the need to lie and turn them down so you can keep reading/watching TV/redditing like maybe you did with video games.

Obviously, some people really just need to stop with the MMORPGs, FPS games, and MOBAs, but others have a hard time controlling themselves once they get a controller in their hands, no matter the game.

[–]capitalismiskewl 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is no one-solution-fits-all for addiction. This is a community for people who feel that video games are a problem in their life and they can get support here. It is the same for NoFap. How is that a bad thing?

[–]Quetzalcoyote 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The criticism here is that people are blaming drugs for their problems. That and many posts on this sub further validate the social stigma against doing drugs. I mean a lot of posts here are people who are proud about reading a fiction book or watching Netflix instead of smoking crack, when I don't really see how those 2 things are any different. There are drugs like MDMA or any number of strains of bud that I would argue are potentially more beneficial and enriching that watching TV or reading Harry Potter. I have no problems with some people simply wanting to kick a habit but this sub has a very "drugs are terrible" vibe to it.

[–]Pieecake 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a difference between reading a book and playing video games. Drugs literally alter your brain chemistry to force you to need that drug. If you play video games for 5 years and stop, you will feel a bit better about yourself and have more time to waste on something else. If you smoke for 5 years and suddenly stop, you will see some unpleasant withdrawal symptoms. Overdosing on drugs will kill you while overdosing on video games might make you a little sleepy the next day.

[–]pounded_rice 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The criticism here is that people are blaming video games for their problems.

I'm pretty sure people aren't just solely blaming their problems on gaming - rather, they know they already have problems to begin with and they're turning towards video games as a distraction.

They want to stop video games because they want to be more aware of themselves - video games are an easy distraction from reality.

There are games like KSP or any number of puzzle games that I would argue are potentially more beneficial and enriching

Not everyone here plays games as a means of learning but distraction.

[–]Kangt6978 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

sub has a very "video games are terrible" vibe to it

Some people do say this, it is part of their detoxing, you can't blame them for this. This sub has nothing to do with bashing gaming.

"StopGaming" is not a good url/title it was discussed many times here, people don't read sidebars.

[–]SquashedBeef 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

people don't read sidebars

I'm aware of the purpose of the sub and I fully support those wanting to kick an addiction, but a lot of the "progress" people make here is simply substituting gaming for a different form of time-wasting, rather than actually working towards better self-discipline and productivity.

[–]Pickled_Wizard185 days 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Watching a show or movie for 1.5 to 2 hours is still a better choice than saying "I'll just play for a couple hours", then winding up playing for like 8 hours. For certain people, videogames suck them in like no other form of media can.
People aren't going to spend ALL of the time they get back from cutting out gaming on productive shit. If they are spending even a couple more hours per day on something more productive, or even getting more sleep, it's worth it.

[–]Kangt6978 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People do want to work towards self-discipline and productivity. Nobody here suggest replace gaming with time-wasting activity, though it happens often.

Excessive gaming is very different from excessive whatever other time-waster. Nothing stand close to gaming in terms of stimulation. It not only wastes your time, it wastes your brain. You can't think about anything else at all. In many cases replacing excessive gaming with any other "bad" activity is a big progress for those who struggle.

[–]-the-original- 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really dont understand your beef. Youre confused why a sub dedicated to video game addiction has a negative stigma about playing videos games? Jeez who woulda thought!

You think if someone ordinarily feels compelled to play video games 8 hours a night, and instead starts using that time to read books or watch a movie, that its a step in the right direction? You seem like the same type of guy who would yell at people for switching from cigarettes to vaping.

For what its worth i dont have an addiction to video games, i just came here because the sub is trending, but posts like yours confuse me more than the subscribers do

[–]pounded_rice -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The criticism here is that people are blaming video games for their problems.

They're not...

[–]Walht 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reading is really good for your vocabulary but yeah watching Netflix won't achieve anything

[–]doobtacular 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Addictive personalities and work avoidance are the real issue imo. I can enjoy the hell out of a videogame and then happily not play again for months if I need to. People struggling with videogame addiction will likely replace it with another unhealthy distraction.

[–]ha_nope 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Its exactly like reddit to want to act like they're victims of some addiction by the evil video games. I understand its a problem and I've dealt with it but these community are just circle jerks. It's not crack ffs, like get a job, go out, and if you want to play video games the rest of the day then do it. Obviously you like them enough to play them they must have some kind of depth or reward. When I was playing too much tf2 I just uninstalled it for a long time

[–]arielmanticore 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People can become addicted to any number of arbitrary hobbies. There is absolutely no harm to you when a community is available for those that need help to distance themselves from their addictions, especially when the addiction is something almost everyone else has little trouble controlling. You have no right in telling this community how they should feel towards their addiction...

[–]Tron9510 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's easy to get addicted to a variety of things. You are just an asshole. Go read some psychology you dumb fuck.

[–]higherkeyofwork -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well that's a bit unnecessary. You don't have to be a jerk back to someone, whether you disagree with them or they are being unreasonable.

[–]joevector70 days 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its exactly like reddit to want to act like they're victims of some addiction by the evil video games.

Ha. Nope.

[–]DannyPrefect23 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (4子コメント)

There's a difference between the kind of guy who comes home from work or school and sits down and plays video games for a while, and a guy who doesn't even go to work because he's spending hours upon hours playing WoW, or League, or DOTA 2. I love video games, but not all my time is spent on them. Hell, there are days where I don't even play any Steam games or console games. There are people who have a serious problem. If someone feels that they need help, then they can come here and hopefully get over doing nothing but playing Rocket League 24/7.

No Fap is a similar place; it's fine to jerk off once or twice a day, maybe less or a little more, and have a couple of porn folders or a Pornhub account, but it's not okay to be beating your dick till nothing comes out when you orgasm and you spend hours just searching for porn everyday.

[–]Ain_Soph_Aur 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Basically, balance in whatever you do.

[–]You-re-On-Fire 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean, you make excellent points (this seems no crazier than any group about addiction - and you don't see oenologists whine about AA!), but nofap is full of people who think they will get tangible health benefits and/or superpowers from not masturbating. I don't think associating with them is great for anybody's credibility.

[–]FallsZero -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

hey man, thats true, perhaps there might no be "objective gain." But, is there anything wrong about telling yourself "you are worth it." Maybe those "powers" aren't real. But, atleast they are being confident. Instead of slapping Johnny all day and causing sort of depressive episodes that last a day, doing nofap makes you go outside and meet people. Also, keep in mind this is reddit. Most of the people at /r/nofap seem to have video game problems as well. This leads me to believe that with the intersection of fapping too much and video game problems, these sort of people are very shy and don't do much with there time (like socialize with friends etc.) So, if telling themselves that they get superpowers helps them break a fapping addiction, I think its ok for that to happen.

[–]Daronmal12 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who the hell cares? Who are you to tell other peopel what to do? They can do as they want. If I wanted I could quit my job and game 24/7 and there's nothing you can do about it. If that's the life people want to/need to live, then let them. This subreddit is just victimizing video games because people are too stupid to realize they're not helping anyone just hurting the image of hardcore gamers.

[–]Rand_alThor_ 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Can mods please remove this shit? What do you hope to achieve by belittling people?

[–]acemandoom 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also the mods should ask to have this sub removed from trending. It's clearly not actually trending and it will only hurt the subs purpose.

[–]Kangt6978 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually think it is very good for this sub. Yeah, there are some inevitable trolls like this one and "just moderate it" folks, they will go away after few days. But there are a lot of people who see this sub and will think about their gaming addiction and maybe even start doing something about it.

[–]pounded_rice 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What do you hope to achieve by belittling people?

The feeling superiority through condescension despite the fact they're terrible at constructing proper arguments.

[–]smricha1194 days 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stop Gaming Rules: Don't be a dick.

[–]autismisntfree 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Ofc the anime autist thinks people wanting to do something other than sit inside all day playing video games is bad.

I'm all for people seeking out advice on how to kick a habit they think is negatively affecting their life whether its smoking/drinking/porn/video games - and I do all, probably in excess.

[–]humblepotatopeeler 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, no. This is actually an issue a lot of people face.

I used to be a Hardcore world of warcraft player, to the point where nothing in real life matter. Huge issues. I finally gave it all up. Started going to a gym, and started looking for work. My life changed drastically over the next year. I found myself so much happier. Actually had romance in my life that I knew I secretly yearned for. And you know what? I was able to go back to gaming, except I had much more control over myself. I limited myself to one or maybe two nights out of the week, rather than every single day, all day. What was even more satisfying? I found that my reflexes were incredibly sharp, not only was I playing much less, I was kicking much more ass. Furthermore, I really began to appreciate the time I spent while playing and enjoyed it a lot more, rather than playing all day every day while shutting off all emotion to the real world and burying a sense of self-hatred and regret while playing.

This sub might not be for you, and you should be thankful. But that doesn't give you a right to be so ignorant.

There are tons of people throwing their lives away in fictional digital worlds, and then 5 years later they come to realize they've accomplished nothing in the world that actually matters.

Usually hits people when the game they play is no longer popular, or if they become tired of it.

[–]Daronmal12 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good for you, but this entire subreddit is essentially saying "stop your hobby because you're ruining your life", nobody wants you to control their lives.

[–]Hyta 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (4子コメント)

not an argument

[–]Basylikum 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And even if it was, his choice of expression would have ruined its respectability.

[–]Esparno 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think their utility function contained "Make a coherent argument against this premise".

[–]pounded_rice 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think he was looking to argue. Does he seem like someone who cares about the situation others are in or what others think?

[–]ididntwritethat 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

You don't have a problem with self control and gaming? Cool. I don't see why you have to come here and comment calling people that do retarded and autistic. Personally, I had an issue playing 1 game where I would play instead of doing other stuff I needed to do. Then when friends would ask me to hang out I couldn't because I spent all day playing. I don't know why people come here and are upset about people seeking help.

[–]Daronmal12 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Because this subreddit is specifically targeting gaming, not actual addictions that can kill people, nobody wants to be told how to live their lives.

[–]ididntwritethat 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

No one is pushing this subreddit on you. We aren't going out in the real world calling for removal of games. It's a safe place for people to quit gaming because it is having a major negative effect in their life.

[–]Daronmal12 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It doesn't, it's like any addiction, this subreddit is specifically targeting gaming, even the name of the subreddit is pretty harsh "stop gaming". Basically this sub is saying "Gaming makes you shit, stop doing it and go outside".

[–]-CURL- 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So you're going to judge the entire subreddit just by its name? Talk about judging a book by its cover.

At some point, gaming can really start to take over control of someone's life - overriding their other ambitions and becoming an escape from reality for them. This sub is for people who recognize this impact of gaming in their lives and would like to do something about it.

This community does not revolve around trying to spread the message that gaming is evil and bad - no; rather it serves as a place for people to get encouraged to get over an addiction that might be ruining their life. Not to sound dramatic but gaming can be really addicting as it constantly stimulates the reward centres of our brain, making us feel good - like a drug.

[–]Daronmal12 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gaming IS an escape from reality. When I was just out of HS I had a REALLY terrible mental situation, music and gaming helped. I met a group of guys on DayZ and they are the best friends I've met in gaming EVER, and this was almost 5 years ago, and we STILL play together occasionally.

If someone is actually addicted to gaming, like getting very minimal sleep or it's highly affecting personal lives/relationships, it's probably a deeper issue than a video game.

[–]--geode 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (28子コメント)

Nofap is really badly named, it should be called no porn. Porn isn't super healthy. Your brain didn't evolve to be able to adjust to that level of availability of sexual imagery. Masturbation is fine, and porn in moderation is fine. But it can be taken too far.

Gaming is a colossal waste of time. People flunk out of school all the time because they can't stop gaming. If that's not the definition of destructive to society I don't know what is. I can't believe video games are still totally legal and unregulated. They have incredible destructive power. I've personally spoken to women who dumped their boyfriends because they had gaming problems.

[–]Findingmorty 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That reminds me of this twitch streamer with his gf. She wanted him to come play with her and he wouldn't stop playing league. So them she started to put on a small show for the camera. Everyone in chat was divided 50 50 on whether he was being a boss or a nerd.

[–]Chewy12 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Gaming is a colossal waste of time. People flunk out of school all the time because they can't stop gaming. If that's not the definition of destructive to society I don't know what is. I can't believe video games are still totally legal and unregulated. They have incredible destructive power. I've personally spoken to women who dumped their boyfriends because they had gaming problems.

Jesus fucking Christ. This applies to any form of entertainment.

And people flunk out of school because of girlfriend's or boyfriend's too, should we ban those? Hell, I've never seen anything have such a drastic impact on people's lives than a significant other. People lose shitloads of money, neglect their friends, restructure their entire lives, and even kill themselves over relationships all the time.

That's it, I'm creating /r/StopRelationships

[–]pounded_rice 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This applies to any form of entertainment.

It's subjective.

Not everyone here plays video games because they enjoy it but out of compulsion or distraction from responsibilities.

[–]RemoveTheTop 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nice of you to defend everyone, but just because YOU say so doesn't mean these other people find it subjective, when their comments are largely suggestive of the exact opposite.

[–]pounded_rice -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't even think you realize how little sense you're making.

[–]RemoveTheTop 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can feel free to explain to me why I'm not sense, but until then I'll assume you're just unhappy that I don't agree with you because you've stated no valid argument, and just belittled me. Such a hypocrite.

[–]iBoxTurtles 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't believe video games are still totally legal and unregulated.

What? Go back to Australia with that attitude.

[–]stonethemonk 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let me see if I understand you properly....

You want someone else to tell everyone how and when FUCKING VIDEO GAMES should be played?

I get the point of this sub and I like it, it's a good thing.

You on the other hand are a delusional zealot.

[–]kravemir2 days 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gaming is a colossal waste of time.

Not all games, some logical and strategy games are good to train mind.

[–]haterrage 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't believe video games are still totally legal and unregulated.

I can't believe this thought made it from your brain to your keyboard without you realizing what a ridiculous statement that is.

[–]UnnamedBeast -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (14子コメント)

most human beings understand the difference between porn and real sex

gaming is a waste of time, but a way better waste of time than fucking TV, because atleast while gaming you are using your brain unlike watching TV where your brain has as much activity as a lettuce

[–]--geode 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (13子コメント)

most human beings understand the difference between porn and real sex

Your higher functions do but your sexual instincts are extremely primitive

gaming is a waste of time, but a way better waste of time than fucking TV, because atleast while gaming you are using your brain unlike watching TV where your brain has as much activity as a lettuce

Lol... I'm gonna blow your mind right now: there are these things called books...

[–]UnnamedBeast 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (9子コメント)

what's the difference between a book addict and a gaming addict?

[–]JustAnotherRandomLad 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Books don't give the same rapid dopamine releases with the same frequency as video games. Book addiction is far less likely to persist without being addressed directly if the underlying problems (procrastination, anxiety, etc.) are dealt with.

[–]UnnamedBeast 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

while that's true, not all games are of rapid dopamine releases, and also, books tend to have themes and a "way of being" that usually doesn't cater to most gamers.

[–]JustAnotherRandomLad 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

not all games are of rapid dopamine releases

And the ones that aren't are the ones that are far less addictive. Consider addiction rates in WoW, LoL, and Monster Hunter relative to logic or puzzle games.

books tend to have themes and a "way of being" that usually doesn't cater to most gamers

That "way of being" is the absence of the challenge and social aspects.

[–]UnnamedBeast 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Absence of the challenge? what do you mean with that? and social aspects? if you are saying that socializing through a book is easier than through gaming then you are very wrong.

Also, talking about games without "rapid dopamine releases", Dark Souls just itches in the right spots, it is a game that rewards exploration and skill it isn't one of those games that look like they were made for 4 year olds.

[–]JustAnotherRandomLad 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Absence of challenge: basically, you can't "win" at a book. Social aspects: I was saying completely the opposite--that books don't have the social element.

Dark Souls has rapid dopamine releases. You kill something? Dopamine. You find an item? Dopamine. Level up? Dopamine. Dodge an attack successfully for the first time? Dopamine. You get the idea.

[–]UnnamedBeast 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Have you ever played Dark Souls? there are tons of time where you feel hopeless: see - Blighttown

From your description it seems as if you never played the game.

[–]JustAnotherRandomLad 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

there are these things called books...

Completely different form of engagement. Video games are participatory. Books are more passive/analytical.

An argument could be made that participation in a fantasy world is a bad thing, but that's not what this is about.

[–]16bitSamurai 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am an avid reader and also an avid gamer, neither are better than the other they are both forms of entertainment

[–]iBoxTurtles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Games are infinitely more involved than books. Being actively involved in something > reading about it.

[–]ShadowShine57 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

See, this is the problem people have with this sub. Your superiority complex and thoughts that just because you can't control yourself means no one else can. Time wasted enjoying yourself isn't wasted, as long as you don't waste TOO much of it. Should we ban Netflix too because some people spend too much time watching it?

[–]Stripes96 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah IKR just like all those people who get hooked on drugs and then are like "hur dur" I need to stop doing drugs they're ruining my life. Idiots just need to learn what moderation is ffs. If you only do meth in the evening once a week when you've done all the shit you need to do it's totally fine. No idea why people try to blame their problems on these things... /s

[–]Deadlycalculator 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Just found this group through the trending tab.

/r/gaming has 15,675,708 subs and this one has less than 10000. It makes sense that 1 in every 1560 gamers feel so addicted that they wanna stop.

[–]moneys5 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's... not a real statistic.

[–]Endulos 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Uh... /r/gaming is one of the many defaults, all accounts created on reddit are automatically subscribed to it.

[–]TAU_doesnt_equal_2PI 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

They don't count as subscribers until they change at least one subscription.

[–]sciguymjm 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's not how that works. At all.

Check comment below.

[–]TAU_doesnt_equal_2PI 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

On mobile and can't link it but here's an Admin saying what I just said:

http://imgur.com/qibyEk5

[–]sciguymjm 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whoops, guess they changed it. Thanks.

[–]LeMAD 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Video games are a much more serious and damaging addiction than masturbation.

[–]AccidentalConception 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

One of us is doing one of those activities wrong then...

[–]FallsZero 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

arguable lol. I'd say both are daming though.

[–]UnnamedBeast 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

what are you playing everyday? sad satan?

[–]BOMB_EVERYTHING 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

What problem do you have with people wanting to quit playing vidya? If people feel that their addiction is getting in the way of them being productive, then isn't quitting a good idea?

Please answer my question OP.

[–]CaptainRTard 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'll answer in my own opinion for OP because I am not so sure OP will answer.

OP, many people, and my own opinion is that this sub follows the lines of /r/nofap and /r/nofap was a horrible sub where a lot of people acted like you'd gain fucking superpowers if you stopped touching yourself, so seeing this trend many people are pretty fucking pissed.

Now just to be fair lets say this somehow doesn't go down the /r/nofap route of extremeness, another argument would be the way people have been treating gaming, if you go to the top of this subreddit the majority of the posts are shitty jokes originally used lightheartedly and now they are being used to kinda mock people who play games, a lot of people are also deleting accounts and stuff like that too, its all extreme and comes off with a harsh unwelcoming vibe to people who actually care about games.

I also feel regardless of a real addiction or not, a subreddit isn't going to fucking help. I could argue with someone for hours that its not possible to be addicted to gaming but I feel like that wouldn't end well here so I would say atleast that I see nothing helpful about a community like this, if someone truly has an addiction they need a more personal direct support and someone who can and is willing to just stop them from playing, and this is not that, this is a place for people who THINK they have an addiction to gaming when they probably just lack the ability to be productive and fill that with something, and I am sure majority of those people will just end up picking up other hobbies they waste time with while feeling like their time isn't wasted, and this place is just here so those people can feel good about that and can shit on people who actually enjoy playing games.

Isn't reddit just as big of a waste of time too? Really makes ya think don't it my dude.

[–]joevector70 days 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP, many people, and my own opinion is that this sub

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I also feel regardless of a real addiction or not, a subreddit isn't going to fucking help

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Isn't reddit just as big of a waste of time too?

If you only subscribe to subs that are about wasting time, sure.

[–]joncology 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's no problem coming into a sub and disagreeing with the ideology behind it but immediately bashing it means you haven't taken the time to understand why we created it. r/StopGaming can be translated to many other mediums of entertainment (like gambling, social media, anime, etc) because the common denominator is escapism from life responsibilities. Now we all have different levels of this but we have members here that have spent more than 50% of their life (not including sleep) playing video games preventing them from spending time with their children, finishing school, get out of an abusive relationship, etc. Please don't post with negativity but rather question why we have this sub.

[–]Masked_Death 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (13子コメント)

People are blaming all their life problems on gaming. There's tons of posts like "if you play you won't achieve anything in your life". It's just like people on r/nofap thinking not wanking will turn them into a girl magnet or something.

[–]MakeTheMostofTheDays 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Not blaming gaming, but blaming myself for gaming. The thing is, we want to quit gaming.

[–]ididntwritethat 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's unfathomable to gamers that some people don't want to play video games anymore. They are going so far in saying reading is a waste of time...

[–]Filthy9gaggers -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Why? Do you hate your own interests that much?

[–]Spenk009 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This sub may be more interesting to people that play compulsively and let other aspects of their lives slide and deteriorate. Think potential uni/college dropouts, NEETs, etc.

[–]Filthy9gaggers -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh... Well, you know you don't have to drop it completely? Having interests, including gaming isn't bad as long as you moderate it and don't let it become an addiction in fact it's even good for you in the right dosage.

[–]JustAnotherRandomLad 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You could say the same about alcohol, but would you say it to a recovering alcoholic?

[–]Filthy9gaggers 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Alcohol =/= playing video games

[–]JustAnotherRandomLad 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People with low natural dopamine levels are prone to biological addiction to anything that triggers rapid dopamine release.

Source: am neurology student with low dopamine levels and addictive personality. Also, check the sidebar, specifically the stuff in this link.

[–]Rand_alThor_ 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some people can do certain things in moderation, others can't. We see the impact gaming has on our lives and we want help in stopping it. So what the hell is your problem with people trying to do more with their lives?

[–]Filthy9gaggers -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry, I didn't realize it was mainly people with full on addictions I just thought most users wanted different interests or something which is what I usually see from no ___ people.

[–]ampersandie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When it gets to the point where you're playing 7+ hours a day, and you can't seem to break the habit, then it becomes a problem. Some people are fine spending ALL of their free time in front of a computer screen but others have decided that they'd like to move on to other interests. How is that so hard to understand?

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[–]SallyMason 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Brigading is a (site-wide) bannable offense on Reddit.

[–]AmnesiA_sc 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Careful buddy, you can cut yourself with that kind of edge

[–]rexmortus 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Im37 years old. Ive played video games since I was 4... Ive wasted about 3 years of play time on games like World of Warcraft, and the Madden franchise each alone. If someone has a video game problem, its okay to admit it. Since I noticed how much time I wasted, I play about 3-5 hours of games a week now... much more reasonable. I wish everyone here the best on their journey, and remember abstinence isnt control over your problem, being able to use moderation is.

[–]kravemir2 days 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

remember abstinence isnt control over your problem, being able to use moderation is.

Neither moderation solves anything. Both of them are just ways to minimize consequences of a problem, but doesn't solve it.

If a man solves his core problems, which make him addicted, then neither moderation, or abstinence is needed.

[–]rexmortus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Change thinking not only behavior.

[–]ThoiletParty 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So this is not serious comedy...

[–]xienn19 days 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Point of both sub's is to help those who are suffering from an actual addiction. While NoFap tends to have a pseudo-effect on many, the removal of video games from a person's life can effectively increase productivity, improve social life, and others.

[–]LinkThe8th 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ahem

Rule One. Wheaton's Law.

[–]FailingItUp -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Username checks out, appears to have intimate knowledge of autism levels.

[–]checks_out_bot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's funny because ShingekiNoEren's username is very applicable to their post.
beep bop if you hate me, reply with "stop". If you just got smart, reply with "start".

[–]Scorchez 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Think what you want, but some people need this subreddit to helps them get over their addictions.

[–]kellar123 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the opposite of autism.

[–]spookyorange 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the hell is wrong with people who came here to bash the community for no reason. If you think there is something wrong with wanting to quit a time consuming hobby which most of the people who are on here don't even enjoy doing anymore then you are beyond stupid.

The people who found this sub on their own was obviously not happy with how much time gaming consumed of their life and failed to moderate so they came to the conclusion that quiting is the best solution.

Also all the people who tell addicts to moderate made me facepalm..

[–]DoNotIngest 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't be a such a chode. People need help, people are getting help, people are becoming happier. If you have a problem with that, it's on you, not them.

[–]SilverWolf930020 days 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why are so many gamers triggered here? Why do you guys care what other people's opinions are on games? It doesn't effect your gaming experience unless you have some spider sense tingling everytime someone says they don't like games anymore?

[–]haterrage 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

LMFAO the banner...jesus...unplugging your PC makes you jacked? I think the cult leaders at /nofap have leaked.

[–]joevector70 days 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, you just need enough reps.

[–]Implicit989 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol a troll creeps out from his bideogame. He probably just got wrecked in his COD or RL game and needed to blow the steam out of his head.

[–]-Lautrec- 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I was joking about Reddit becoming a dumb mainstream forum like Facebook, I never thought it would actually happen. Yet here we are, with an anti gaming subreddit about "addiction" trending

A new low for a website that was so much better when it was obscure

[–]Frosty_Nuggets 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, this sub is a joke. Lol!

[–]acemandoom 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sub proves that 'trending' is totally artificial and driven by an actual person.

[–]DarthContinent -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

StopGaming exists to help those who struggle with or have struggled with compulsive gaming or video game addiction.

Ok, to me this doesn't seem like a bad thing.

I used to be a big-time video game addict. I'd spent several hours each night and sometimes all-nighters on weekends playing various multiplayer games mainly, also a few open-worldish games just roaming around and grinding or questing.

Eventually (like in some years) I came to the realization that basically I wasn't having fun a lot of the time. Especially in the marathon sessions after a while it would seem more like work than fun. That and the fact that I was gaining nothing tangible sort of helped shake me out of that level of hardcore gaming. I don't have a great many friends, so I wasn't in it to socialize; as a result to me ultimately it was just rearranging 0s and 1s on some company's server and on my PC with nothing to show for all those wasted hours.

As long as this place doesn't use religion like some addiction programs (e.g. Alcoholics Anonymous), or serve as some perverse joke for the creators to mock people who are suffering IRL from too much gaming and not enough life, it seems like a good idea to help people get together and collaborate to not let as much of their life go down the black hole that can be addictive gaming.

[–]PhuckShietUp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel bad for OP, the subreddit clearly triggered his cognitive dissonance.

[–]PokeytheChicken 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't see why you're complaining

[–]LukeWalton4President 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to reddit2017

[–]haterrage -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my god...don't join the discord channel. Over 50 people in the chat and half of them have a status of "Currently playing League of Legends" or "Currently playing Skyrim" or "Currently playing Hearthstone".

Jesus...