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[–]jacks1000 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember how the left went nuts smearing Mike Pence for his religious Christian Marriage? His Christianity and his Marriage were fair game for attacks, smears, caricatures, and speculations about his supposed membership in "radical Christian groups."

So when Jared Kushner and his Jew Zionism come under scrutiny, all of a sudden that is "anti-Semitic." It's ok to discuss Pence's Christian religion, but discussing Kushner's Jewish religion is "anti-semitic."

Caricatures of Pence's Christianity were fine, caricatures of Kushner's Judaism are "anti-semitism."

Speculation about the weird radical Christian groups Pence is a part of is fine, but speculation about the weird radical Jewish groups Kushner is a part of is "anti-semitism."

Apparently, we are supposed to believe that Jews are "God's Chosen People" and are above criticism. Jews are allowed to criticize, caricature, and conspiracy theorize about Christianity but Christians aren't allowed to criticize, caricature, and conspiracy theorize about Judaism, because "anti-semitism."

Sounds like Jew Supremacy doesn't it?

Do you believe in the Jew religion? I don't, it's a stupid religion.

[–]Titty_Sprinkled 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Oy vey! Anyone who criticizes us is a white supremacist! Or a vile racist! Remember slavery! What's that? Jews financed and were the major force behind the trans Atlantic slave trade? Oy vey! You're racist goyim! It was clearly those white boys who died by the hundreds of thousands to free you that are the evil people! Our television networks even say so!

[–]jacks1000 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone suggesting this is "anti-Semitic" is admitting that they are a Jew Supremacist that believes the "Holy Jews" are superior to the "goyims."

All groups are criticized, as groups, yet when Jews are criticized as a group they have a special Smear Word: "anti-Semite."

If Jews are the Superior Chosen Race that Cannot Be Criticized, then "anti-Semitism" is a bad thing.

[–]PoorlyRoundedSquare -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (6子コメント)

My issue with the idea of any concept like this is the nebulous "we". Who are they? What does it take to be a part of them? How can you reasonably identify them? How do they communicate? Who is their leader? How do they determine their goals?

Referring to "the Jews" is a lazy cop out for identifying the enemies of the lower class. This isn't a fantasy game with each race having their own moral alignment.

[–]jacks1000 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Referring to "the Jews" is a lazy cop out for identifying the enemies of the lower class.

Says the Communist desperately trying to shield the Zionists.

It's "the Jews" promoting this war - the Jews in Israel, the Zionist Jews in America, and the so-called "moderate" Jews do nothing but attack anyone who points it out as "anti-Semites" - thus, they are collaborators.

[–]PoorlyRoundedSquare 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Did you just assume my ideology? REEEEEE-

Jk. But I don't see the relevance of your first line, true or not. You need to connect it a little more clearly to the argument you are trying to make or discredit. I could be a coin-operated shill that is paid to argue- but the argument has value outside of its source. If you believe that it doesn't, that's called the Genetic Fallacy.

Now we're actually getting somewhere though, you naming guilty subsets. How are the Israeli's at fault for Syria? The Americans? You explained why the moderates were guilty, but what would separate them from those who think you're drawing a false positive in general wrt Jewish collaboration?

[–]jacks1000 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

There you go again, desperately spinning in order to distract from the crimes of the Zionists and their Jew collaborators.

Go ask the Israelis and their Jew partisans why they are supporting an attack on Syria.

[–]PoorlyRoundedSquare 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Spinning? We're just having a chat, already in the "click to view thread" territory. I'm not distracting anyone but you, and if you doubt my sincerity we can take this to DM's. :/p

I'm not actually interested in hearing them out as opposed to hearing these questions answered by you because 1) i dont know anyone from either of these groups, 2) I specifically want your suspicions, and 3) if they are as conniving and dishonest as you claim, I can't really trust how they answer, can I?

[–]jacks1000 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

if they are as conniving and dishonest as you claim

There you go again, now you are just screeching "anti-seeeeemite" in a back handed way.

You are really transparent.

[–]PoorlyRoundedSquare 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I'll be damned. I looked through the reply chain and there was nowhere you said the Jews were liars. Time to change that. ;3

Would you trust the Israelis and Jewish partisans to accurately represent the truth and your beliefs? That my questions are better answered by them than by you?

[–]Mescalean 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Antisemitism or whatever other jew card they use.

[–]the_obscured 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Truth is uncomfortable

[–]Vienna1683 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Are Rabbies the only people calling for airstrikes?

[–]WadeWilsonforPope 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Turns out ive got a lot of rabbis on my facebook feed.

[–]ghofmann 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Didn't know there were so many Rabbis is congress and in the media

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No but there are a fuckton of Jews.

[–]AWokenBeetle 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Some perspective on this push to paint this subreddit as a Nazi hotbed.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/alt-right-zionism-richard-spencer-netanyahu-settlers-trump/

[–]aDividedMind 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Proven false flags against /r/conspiracy to make everyone here seem racist.

[–]Ozcolllo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interesting article. I can't tell if it's selection bias on my part, but I can see much of what they're talking about.

[–]jacks1000 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Jacobinmag is a Communist magazine writing hit piece on Nationalists like Spencer. If you aren't opposed by Jaconbinmag, you aren't a real American.

[–]AWokenBeetle 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

From your point of view, it's not the nation called America I care about, it's the people that matter, not the nation state.

[–]jacks1000 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes, we know you are a globalist Communist, thus pretend to care for "the people" but the reality is you are running interference for Zionist warmongers. You are perfectly aware of it too.

[–]AWokenBeetle 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm a Globalist who constantly advocates and endorses an Anarchist in James Corbett ?

[–]jacks1000 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like you have a Zionist-shaped blind spot when it comes to globalism, eh?

[–]itsconstantinople 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

What a timeline when the neo nazis and Richard Spencer are advocating for peace and the peace loving liberals are loving the US bombing Syria. All it took for the media to give Trump some credit was bombing a sovereign country and most of the critics are whining about the use of the word "Tomahawk Missile" as a form of some kind of fucked up cultural appropriation.

[–]jacks1000 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are no "neo nazis." If you oppose a war for Israel, or oppose Israel and the Jew religion in any way, you're an "anti-seemite nazi hitler kkk" and it's ok to commit violence against you and deny your freedom of speech.

"Neo Nazi" = Emmanuel Goldstein.

[–]know_comment 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Richard Spencer is an obvious shill. He's the face of anti-semitism for the "alt-right".

Look who he was buddy buddy with at Duke University:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miller_(political_advisor)

Stephen Miller (born August 23, 1985) is a senior advisor to President Donald Trump. Prior to his current appointment, he was the communications director for then-Alabama senator, Attorney General Jeff Sessions. He also served as a press secretary to Congresswoman Michele Bachmann and Congressman John Shadegg.

Miller grew up in a liberal-leaning Jewish family in Santa Monica, California.

In 2007,[7] Miller received his bachelor's degree from Duke University, majoring in political science.[2] Miller served as president of the Duke chapter of Horowitz's Students for Academic Freedom and wrote conservative columns for the school newspaper.

While at Duke, Miller and the Duke Conservative Union helped co-member Richard B. Spencer, a Duke graduate student at the time, with fundraising and promotion for an immigration policy debate in March 2007 between the open-borders activist and University of Oregon professor Peter Laufer and journalist Peter Brimelow, the founder of the anti-immigration website VDARE.

if you don't know what Horowitz' Students for Academic Freedom is, then here:

SAF is an offshoot of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture (since renamed the David Horowitz Freedom Center),

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz_Freedom_Center

The Hatewatch blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has described the center as a far-right organization[22] and an anti-Muslim hate group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz

Horowitz is the son of Phil and Blanche Horowitz, who were high school teachers. His father taught English and his mother taught stenography.[4] During years of labor organizing and the Great Depression, Phil and Blanche Horowitz were long-standing members of the American Communist Party and strong supporters of Joseph Stalin

After completing his graduate degree in the late 1960s, Horowitz lived in London and worked for the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation.[10][11] He identified as a serious Marxist intellectual.

Horowitz is the definition of a neo-con (a radical rightwing zionist who supposed reversed from being a radical marxist. this is the story behind every neocon and differentiates them from actual conservatives.) He regularly writes rightwing israeli propaganda for breitbart.

Here's an Ad Horowitz put out in the New York Times trying to conflate the palestinian economic justice BDS movement with the Holocaust (of course...).

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/05/new-petition-challenges-horowitz-smear-invoking-nazi-holocaust-to-attack-bds/

[–]jacks1000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

So Richard Spencer has been friends with a number of conservatives Jews, therefore he is the "face of antisemitism?"

Apparently "anti-semitism" means "any criticism of the Jew state or the Jew political lobby."

Spencer doesn't "hate Jews" but he criticizes Israeli warmongers therefore he's the "face of anti-semitism" in the Alt Right.

Do you people even try to be consistent or do you just make this shit up as you go along?

[–]know_comment 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So Richard Spencer has been friends with a number of conservatives Jews

That's not conservatism- that's a radical ethnic supremacist ideology masquerading as conservatism.

Apparently "anti-semitism" means "any criticism of the Jew state or the Jew political lobby."

It's called the JEWISH state. a state is JEWISH, a person is "A Jew". If you use it the way you are it becomes derogatory. So yes, that does sound anti-semitic, unless you are being tongue in cheek.

And if I'm wrong about Spencer espousing actual anti-semitism, then fine. But as I have seen, he is the ONLY person associated with the "deplorables" who comes anywhere near anti-semitism, whereas I am constantly hearing it's an anti-semitic administration and following.

[–]jacks1000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OK so either way Richard Spencer is "anti-semitic" because - why again? So is Dennis Kuchnich, apparently, and anyone else who dares to criticize the Jew Promised Land, apparently.

Why should anyone care about the label "anti-seeemite" if that is the way it's going to be used?

[–]TrowwayFiggenstein 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If Rabbis want airstrikes then for fuck's sake I say let's fucking airstrike them.

[–]socs0 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Divide. Conqour.

[–]Maverick314 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't get what point this is supposed to make.

I'm officially calling for airstrikes against Assad.

Now any further strikes that happen can be blamed on me, yay!

[–]dokapon111 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The point is that they're vilifying the alt right for saying something anti-Semitic, even though it is true.

[–]Maverick314 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The point I was trying to make was that just because someone calls for airstrikes (lots of groups other than just some Jewish people were calling for them), doesn't mean it's that groups fault if airstrikes are actually done.

[–]dokapon111 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I get that, but I think op is pointing out hypocrisy, since these are both from the same source.

[–]SJW_Queefs_Stink 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anytime that you point out Israeli crimes, you are an antisemite.

[–]Esdarke 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well it doesn't say they're wrong.

[–]1pt21jiggawats 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Congrats. You are now being tracked by r/isrconspiracyracist

[–]jacks1000 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Being tracked by /r/isrconspiracyracist for what you post in /r/conspiracy is like getting arrested for the first time when you're in the mafia - it's a rite of passage. You haven't really done anything of value until you get on the list.

[–]Mescalean -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Judaism is a faith. Who are very prejudice against other faiths too. You should throw all the jews on that racist list as well

[–]bledd7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

rabbis calling for aistrikes on syria have the same credibility as the basement dwelling neets who oppose the action .

[–]ParamoreFanClub 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Atright shit post. No thanks

[–]jacks1000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Shit, our narrative is being exposed, shut it down! "alt right! nazi! hitlerkkkracist! anti-seeeeeeemite!"

[–]ParamoreFanClub 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I didn't say any of that but still fuck the alt right

[–]jacks1000 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You just did. How did you come to support Jew Supremacism anyway?

[–]ParamoreFanClub 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Better than supporting the alt right

[–]jacks1000 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for coming out of the closet there. Glad you haters are out in the open, as sunshine is the best disinfectant.

[–]jumpjumpdie -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a difference between them calling for it and them actually doing it... lol... Trump did it you dipshits.

[–]Dsparks2012 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Can I say the same about Christian's then?? https://youtu.be/JDj4WWKc9xg

[–]Titty_Sprinkled 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sure and it'd have the same weight, if Christians controlled the banks, the media, and bribed or extorted politicians through AIPAC. Oh don't forget about the CFR and IMF. And if those Christians were behind communism, and were incredibly racist. Also those Christians would need something like the Oded Yinon plan, which is the U.S. foreign policy. You know, now that I think about it. You look kind of ridiculous saying that.

[–]Entropick 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Voice of reason: right here!

[–]Dsparks2012 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd rather be specific on my accusations rather than paint entire groups of people as evil. That is the point I was making. If the specific Jews you are referring to have names, then name them. You come of as ridiculous to me.

[–]Mescalean 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You obviously have done your reading on their religion. Keep taking their word for it good little goyem

[–]Ozcolllo -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for being a voice of reason.

[–]jacks1000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure, no one is criticizing the "Secular Talk" guy, no one is sucker punching him or trying to "deny a platform" to him, or otherwise interfering with his freedom of speech. No one is calling him a "Christophobe" or an "anti-Aryanite" now are they?

So why the double standard with Jews?

Oh right, it's because we're supposed to believe that Jews are "God's Holy People" therefore any criticism is some how bad, because "anti-Semitisms."

[–]Ozcolllo -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit, that is terrifying. Stop pointing out the flaws! Your children and your children's children shall be cursed! Trump was chosen by God!

I wonder if they said the same thing about Obama?