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TRPWomen can't love you back. (self.MGTOW)

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Scientific fact: women are not capable of loving men in the same way men love women.

This stems from thousands of years of evolution as a species. Historically, it was the men that risked their lives hunting dangerous animals, going off into battle, doing dangerous physical labor, and fighting other males to the death for a chance to mate. If you were on a sinking Titanic, you had to drown in frigid waters while women boarded the lifeboats. As a result, the chances of being killed as a male were always astronomically higher than it would be for females. This made men essentially expendable, and females evolved to not place too much emotional stake in any one particular male, as he wasn't likely to be around for long.

Another factor in this is the manner in which males have typically been the providers. Yes, feminists will claim this no longer applies because they're oh-so-independent. However this is only true for about the last 50 years. For the other 200,000 years of human existence, it was the male who provided for, protected, and offered security to the females. This is another evolutionary truth that carries over into modern times. What a women calls 'love' is more likely to be this feeling of being provided for, often by way of money and social status, or in it's most rudimentary form; entertainment ("make me laugh"). In contrast, the male historically gained none of this by being with a woman. So if a man says he loves a woman, chances are it was really love, as there was little else to be gained.

Finally, we should note the suicide statistics. It is actually very common for males to commit suicide over a woman leaving. Many of us may actually know a male or two who's suicide was associated with a breakup. In contrast, women committing suicide over a male leaving is VIRTUALLY UNHEARD OF. Little else is needed to explain this other than acknowledging that women in general do not care about or 'love' men as deeply as men love women.

In conclusion, women cannot reciprocate the same levels of affection you give them, and hence you are far better off NOT BOTHERING WITH THEM.

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[–]Teflon0819 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Men are attracted to a woman's weakness. Women are attracted to a man's strength.

The only instance where women aren't repulsed by a man's weakness is mothers to their sons, and sometimes even that isn't true.

Since women are incapable of loving a man's weakness, they are fundamentally incapable of loving him to the same extent that he can love them.

It's an ugly biological reality, but it is what it is.

[–]Mrbasie 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

TRUTH

[–]ProbablyBelievesIt -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (9子コメント)

So, men aren't attracted to a women's strengths? That does explain why masculinity is so often so easily threatened by a woman in higher standing.

Just curious, by the way - if women are repulsed by any and all male vulnerability, why does so much of their smut contain strong, handsome, millionaires/vampires/rogues who only open up to the protagonist about their tragedy porn backstory?

Is this just you masturbating as you type, to get all the bitterness out?

[–]Zorantu 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

why are women attracted to large, strong, providing, wealthy, protecting men who are then equally as emotionally sensitive as they are

because what attracts them most is their self-image with a big dick and a paycheck

[–]ProbablyBelievesIt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just curious - why do most women insist that having their cervix punched out is an overrated experience?

It seems like an obsession with giant dicks is way more common with men, while lots of women prefer a good fit. Is it overcompensation, or just virgins not being familiar with women's anatomy?

[–]GearyDigit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's more that they don't listen to women and blame women for their lack of success caused by not listening to women.

[–]RowdyRoddyPiper 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just curious, by the way - if women are repulsed by any and all male vulnerability, why does so much of their smut contain strong, handsome, millionaires/vampires/rogues who only open up to the protagonist about their tragedy porn backstory?

With added emphasis on "millionaire"

[–]ProbablyBelievesIt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course. But you're scribbling out the parts of the fantasy you don't wanna acknowledge.

Her discovering his vulnerability is part of the package fantasy deal. You can find it all over the place in women's fiction. And there are even women looking for a sad story and vulnerability in their real life bad boys, too.

If you're going to jerk-off about how much you hate women, at least try to sound like you've actually met more than whatever horror stories brought you here.

[–]Teflon0819 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, men are generally not attracted to women's strengths; At least not in the same way that women are attracted to men's strengths.

There's a simple, fundamental difference between men and women that has been cultivated over hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. Men seek to protect and provide. Women seek to be protected and provided for.

This is just a simple biological fact. One that even "strong and independent" women can't escape from, as evidenced by the plethora of "why can't I find a good man?!" complaints we hear from them. Good of course being the code word for "a man who would be more capable of providing for me than I currently can for myself". They could easily settle down with a poor, weak and needy partner, but they very rarely do, unlike men.

Why does so much of their smut contain men revealing their tragic past to the protagonist you ask? Because it helps to frame the hardships that they've endured to become the strong, handsome, millionaire, vampire rogue that she is in love with. She loves his ability to overcome his weaknesses, not the weaknesses themselves.

Also, fantasy is not reality. Women love rape in their fantasies, but not so much in real life. I'd imagine the same applies to "emotionally vulnerable" men.

[–]ProbablyBelievesIt -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You can imagine all you want to. Those of us who've trusted our partners with our deepest darkest secrets - and found they brought us closer together - know better.

In the real world, women, like men, have more than one personality.

[–]Teflon0819 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm talking about biological inclinations, not personalities.

[–]ProbablyBelievesIt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personalities begin as biological inclinations, and even before children can speak, they show different instincts.

[–]Five_Decades 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

and females evolved to not place too much emotional stake in any one particular male, as he wasn't likely to be around for long.

I think this is a big part of it. In prehistoric times, life was very tenous. A person had so many threats they could face. There were predators, wars, intra-tribal violence, accidents, diseases, famines, etc. An alpha male was not guaranteed to be alpha forever, he would get sick or injured eventually and I think women evolved to branch swing to the strongest male when an alpha showed signs of weakness. The women who stayed with a broken, diseased alpha male were at a disadvantage over the women who cut their losses and moved onto the next guy. Loyalty during the hard times was likely selected against.

Men are romantics pretending to be realists, women are realists pretending to be romantics.

[–]Greetings1 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women save love for their children. Men are just their to foot the bill.

[–]ProbablyBelievesIt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is only true, if you're completely unlovable. Most men aren't.

[–]TRPrism 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (3子コメント)

She doesn't love you. She loves how she feels in your presence.

Men are the only ones who can love idealistically.

[–]Morranaii 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

she doesn't but she still NEEDS US.

[–]victor_knight -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes women appear more appealing (and worth sacrificing for) than they really are.

[–]ProbablyBelievesIt -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the sense that some really love how that HB 9 makes them feel, before they've even talked to her? Love at first sight. Sigh - it's so romantic.

[–]autisticnegro 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is actually very common for males to commit suicide over a woman leaving. Many of us may actually know a male or two who's suicide was associated with a breakup.

Look the top 3 highest stress factors here: http://www.stress.org/holmes-rahe-stress-inventory/

  1. Death of a spouse: 100
  2. Divorce: 73
  3. Marital separation from mate: 65

This is just a model. But it can give you an idea how much a man suffer after a divorce/break up.

[–]victor_knight 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (9子コメント)

True. Put simply, from a strictly evolutionary standpoint (and this shit cannot be ignored even with humans today), a man's entire purpose of existence is to get his sperm to fertilize a woman's egg. After that, nature couldn't give a shit if he lived or died. In fact, better he die because he will not be consuming any more of (limited) resources available once his genes have already been passed on. Sad but true. Even our modern world revolves in silent around these principles.

[–]kafka-tamura 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not understanding this is the biggest glaring flaw in human consciousness. Nature has no use for anyone's well being whether man or woman... only that genes be passed on. Happiness is simply not that important in the grand scheme of things. Not to mention that the brain is physically incapable of being happy forever due to biomechanics.

[–]Five_Decades 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I disagree with this somewhat. Humans are a species with a very high level of parental involvement. If we weren't, then women wouldn't care about money, power or status in a potential mate. Women need a guy who will stick around to protect and provide for her and the offspring until the offspring are independent. If women didn't care about parental involvement after the child was born then women would be as indifferent to wealth, power and status in men as men are indifferent to these things in women.

Women basically ask two unconscious questions when selecting a mate.

-Does he have high quality genes

-Does he have the ability and willingness to provide for, protect and take care of me and the kids until the kids are independent and sexually mature.

People act like women are hard to understand, but it all basically comes back to these two questions.

Neither question is based on love or based on caring about men as human beings with feelings. They are based on a woman getting the best genes and the best resources/protection she can.

[–]victor_knight 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Once children come along, the "prized" man becomes even less important to the woman than he was before. In fact, at this point, she really doesn't care if he sticks around or not (in many cases she actually wants him gone) as long as someone (e.g. the state, the divorced man, the public) is paying her bills.

[–]Five_Decades 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I agree, but historically a woman couldn't rely on the state to pay her bills or to protect her. She had to rely on a man to do it.

[–]victor_knight 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's when things changed. However, in the past, if she had a rich mangina father or brothers, for instance, the result was often the same. The husband was little more to her than a sperm donor.

[–]Five_Decades 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is why feminists pushed for all these programs that allowed mothers to be financially independent without having to depend on a man to give them resources voluntarily. Now they have their own jobs, welfare, alimony, child support, etc. so they can get resources w/o having to find a man and keep him happy. In the past if a man was unhappy at home he could leave. Now if he does that the wife still gets alimony, child support, welfare, etc.

Men are trying to do the same thing, find ways to get our sexual strategy met w/o having to make women happy. Prostitutes, sex robots, artificial wombs, porn, etc. Naturally many feminists are opposed to all these things because they shift the power balance away from them.

However, we evolved in an environment where a woman had to depend on a man to protect and provide for her. So they still look for that.

[–]Bbrash1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good point...question one sound like alpha (good genes--tall dark and handsome), and question two sounds like beta (provider-worker drone).

[–]Five_Decades 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, it is AF/BB in a nutshell. Women would prefer to have both in one man, but that is extremely rare for a man to have both and be willing to commit to one woman.

The man who has both (good genes, resources) and who is willing to commit to one woman is to women what a unicorn is to men. A dream that rarely happens.

[–]rebuildingMyself 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While true, biologically, the government would rather a man continue to live to pay taxes and offload the costs of supporting a woman and her spawn. This becomes quite clear once you step into a family court where you are reduced to nothing but an invisible wallet paying for everything the ex wants.

[–]gravelheart 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

very common for males to commit suicide over a woman

My nephew's ex-girlfriends brother hanged himself after he got dumped. He was only 19.

Apparently his ex girlfriend laughed about it on Facebook.

[–]victor_knight 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Getting even with my ex-wife one time, I refused to answer her calls. She came home early to check on me only to find me sitting down quietly in the chair having some tea. She got upset and told me she came home worried that I might have killed myself due to her not answering my calls earlier that day. Imagine that. She actually thought a man would kill himself because a bitch didn't pick up the phone.

[–]ProbablyBelievesIt 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's horrific. Especially if it turns out she's the reason he did it.

People like that ought to be kept locked up...

[–]gravelheart 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just more evidence that the blue pill is poison to a man and MGTOW is the way to go.

[–]QuarkGluonSoup 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You bring up some fair points:

-Men are disposable; men willingly and sometimes forcefully sacrifice for a subjective greater good.

-Historically, men have been providers.

-Successful suicide attempts for men are higher than women.

I have no grievance with these since I've both read and personally experienced enough to come to these conclusions on my own. However, I take slight umbrage with your "scientific" claim that women do not reciprocate equal amounts of love to men. I won't argue that women love men in a different way, but it should be common knowledge that everyone—regardless of sex—expresses love in a different way.

When determining amounts of love shown wouldn't it be difficult to ascertain how a researcher could accurately measure it, especially given the belief by some that emotions are boundless? You don't fill a fictitious tank with 10 liters of love each morning only to have it depleted in various ways throughout your day, do you? So then, we can only observe behavior and make conclusions on some arbitrary amount of love shown. Even so, this is flawed. What would you say about a man who hits his significant other? He doesn't love her, right? However, what does the man possibly think? It's true that he may indeed not love her, but there are those, contorted as it is, that hit out of "love" for their partner.

The gist of what I'm getting at here is that you can't accurately determine "amounts" of love shown because the scale is completely subjective, hence a "scientific fact" can't be made from it.

TL;DR: Yes, I'm splitting hairs, but don't claim a scientific fact unless you can back it up with hard data.

[–]Mrbasie 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

All my friends getting married. F*k at the age of 27, 28,29, obviously they think Im the devil when I try to advise them. They are like drugs, they will ruin you.. RUN..........

[–]Morranaii 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

of course agreed. nothing new. but let's assume that WOMEN WOULD LOVE US IN THE SAME WAY AS WE LOVE THEM- what would happen then? how this would change the whole gender dynamic?

If you were on a sinking Titanic, you had to drown in frigid waters while women boarded the lifeboats

theoretically if you had money you could buy a place in a lifeboat. also, this was because it was a "honorable" thing to do. and women could always breed more of men who would in turn again die for them, serving their lives. horrible stuff.

women who were pretending to be from aristocracy were often married forcefully to people they never "loved" in order to secure wealth of their families or assure continuation of the lineage. so, in fact, they were very well accustomed to being with someone for "security" and never actually "loving" him.

Yes, feminists will claim this no longer applies because they're oh-so-independent

yeah, in western society. feminist forget to see that the western society will collapse one day- if not anytime soon. and then it's going to get back again like it is on Ukraine or in Muslim world. hard, tough world. with nobody to defend their "laws". I wonder where will be our modern feminist by then? probably asking men for help!

What a women calls 'love'

Woman: "I love him for how he makes me feel" Men: "I love her for who she is"

[–]cynicalsimon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Last 50 years? Women have NEVER brought much to our species existence and quality of life EVER!

Furthermore, a womens 'love' with a man is only infatuation because she has hundreds of other male 'options'(all disposable to her of course)

its a 'hard cock to suck'- Trailer park boys quote(LMAO)

[–]GearyDigit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except that anthropologists have found that both men and women did hunting as a tribe. So 'men as providers' is a very recent concept, as far as our species is considered.

If you were on a sinking Titanic, you had to drown in frigid waters while women boarded the lifeboats.

You mean literally the only time that ever happened?

It is actually very common for males to commit suicide over a woman leaving. ... In contrast, women committing suicide over a male leaving is VIRTUALLY UNHEARD OF.

[Citation Needed]

[–]drqxx -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

You must be the catch.

My girl is rare and took a while to capture. My girl allows me to spend time with other women. She offers blow jobs and back rubs. I'm not some hero nor super Casanova. However I lift; eat right; and built a machine that makes enough income that I can work 20 hours a week and be very comfortable. My girl knows we will never get married (told her on the third date of my no marriage policy) There is also no common law marriage here. So we are together because I choice to allow her in my castle. A castle I hold all the keys to. Now what I'm saving is she will love me so long as I allow it. If I let my self go back to my former ways (330lbs) If I stop providing a safe place for our children...THEN YES 100000% her eyes will wonder and she'll ponder the touch of a another man.

Remember we are MEN strong powerful men. Let us not disappoint our ancestors by being weak. We don't need women but if we want them we can have them and on our own terms.

[–]Hiromant 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

My girl is rare and took a while to capture.

Now I'm not a native speaker but I read this as you taking a while to capture her... while claiming to be a catch?

[–]drqxx -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well done sir! We captured each other to be true. However she stays with me cause she knows I'm a great catch.

[–]Morranaii 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

and built a machine that makes enough income that I can work 20 hours a week and be very comfortable

aahahaha so funny that machine is called BULLSHIT GENERATOR? :D

[–]drqxx -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope 12 years as an entrepreneur. Check my post history for detail. Don't be so quick to sling mud. Have a nice night.