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Valentina's Accent (self.rupaulsdragrace)

hadeejasouffleValentina が 投稿

Alright, let's address what people (and Detox) keep talking about. Before I start, I'm Cuban/Puerto Rican, from an entirely Spanish speaking family and the community around me is mostly Cuban, Columbian, Dominican, and Mexican. So I know my Latin accents, trust the duchess.

Valentina's accent in confessionals strikes me 100% as the accent of a person who is trying to sound slightly more American than they typically would, not the other way around (which is Detox's accusation). Notice the way she over-enunciates several words and speaks in a very clear, slow, and breathy way. In a way she has a very tame version of Cynthia's accent (when she isn't trying to be funny), where vowel sounds are really over-pronounced to mimic the way vowels are so various in English.

If anything, her way of speaking sounds the OPPOSITE of someone putting on a character for the show. It sounds like, SHOCKER, a person who grew up speaking Spanish and English and comes from a Spanish speaking family (like her actual biography).

She has also said a million times that her biggest influence is Old Hollywood and the Miss Universe Pageant, where that kind of royal enunciation is so loved.

I just don't understand why people are trying to dissect the way she talks and totally witch-hunt every word she says in a different way. Plus, it's drag, she can talk funny if she wants to. So deja mi niña en paz!

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[–]gratisfactio-nShea Couleé 120 ポイント121 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's ColOmbian, other than that I find it extremely ignorant how anglosaxons love to mock people's accents when they can't even pronounce "enchilada" without struggling

[–]hadeejasouffleValentina[S] 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

clockt my spelling. U rite gerl

[–]housedownrealnessValentina 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Girl the last part of this has me dying love you

[–]happymerlinpeenValentina 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you!!! As a Hispanic person in LA, it is very obvious that people with accents get treated very differently than people without. Even in the context of this show, people with any kind of accent are constantly plagued by the "language barrier" in any challenge that involves acting or comedy. Being able to switch between two dialects is called code-switching, people, and it is considered an asset.

..you can clock the flair I guess, but I'm just tired of this narrative overall.

[–]0six0fourValentina 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly even now when yara was on tour this past year with other rugirls, they would always make a joke like oh i don't know what she said but vblah blahblah.....I know trixy and Bianca said that a few times and yes it's funny but like come on Yara is fierce and fluent in rnglish now why put people down like that

[–]hellaswankkyPeppermint 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

thank you for this post. necessary + important.

[–]makeupformermaidsValentina 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I read this in Sasha's voice.

OP you do very smart work.

[–]ninasayscacaoNina Bo'nina Brown 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok Uglina

[–]Selathia 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I didn't even know this was happening. Are people serious?

[–]mistyday3Nina Bo'nina Brown 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I didn't realize this was happening today*

[–]nosebleed22Valentina[🍰] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is why we can't have nice things

[–]goodtobepharaoh 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's obviously a theatre girl. We. love. enunciation. and she looks like a dead-ringer for Judy Funny in her confessionals.

[–]lanadelreichNina Bo'nina Brown 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's a super light accent, i wouldn't even have noticed it if people hadn't brought it up tbh, we really need FPR smh

[–]amator7Nina Bo'nina Brown 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Y'all need some hobbies

[–]Texas1AllstarValentina 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or therapy lol

[–]RilakkumaButt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

RPDR is my hobby. What I really need are friends.

[–]storyaboutflatsAlexis Michelle 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ugh thank you for finally opening up the dialogue. I've been waiting for some kind of discussion regarding this.

[–]FreshCarltonValentina 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just don't understand why people are trying to dissect the way she talks and totally witch-hunt every word she says in a different way.

People are mad at her because 1. she tries her best 2. the judges like her 3. some queens don't get as much screentime.

[–]makeupformermaidsValentina 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the T girl 👏🏼

[–]oligodendrocytesSasha Velour 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

None of which you can fault her for

[–]CucuRising 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

said a million times that her biggest influence is...the Miss Universe Pageant

I was feeling like she was working the race like a Miss U contestant, I did not know that!

[–]ThomseniteValentina 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't she work in a high end boutique. This is literally her " professional" voice. We all do it.

[–]jinkxandmaxValentina 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The negativity surrounding Valentina is aggravating, shes doing her best - it's not her fault the judges like her and she doesn't choose what camera time other queens get .. and the very fact that her accent is being questioned is ridiculous, she aint lying bout her heritage!

[–]TterrjValentina 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People needed something to attack her for, the bitterness is high darling

[–]DanteDameronValentina 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People just like to criticize and nitpick when someone is doing good at something. I mean, even if she had an accent, drag is literally creating a new persona, a character, so she can talk however she wants.

Tbh I actually saw this backlash coming, it happened with Aja at the beginning of the ruvealed, the fan favorite attracts attention, good and bad.

[–]xtinaphileShea Couleé 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A fake accent... a hat... the same grey hair bejewelled gloves in every runway... is she the second cumming of Miss Maxine?!

[–]FuckboiSupremeSasha Velour 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tune in to snatch game to find out

[–]voxpopjolieNina Bo'nina Brown 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

and the community around me is mostly Cuban, Columbian, Dominican, and Mexican

ooh bitch, where you live? im moving asap

[–]hadeejasouffleValentina[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I live between Miami and Philly! Cubans/Colombians/Dominicans/Venezuelans big time in Miami, Mexicans big time in Philly

[–]MindYourGrindrAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

WeHo

[–]ShishishSasha Velour 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder how much of it is like, how she might be made fun of for her more Spanish accent? And trying to avoid haters in that way? I know plenty of Spanish-speaking people who have struggled with sounding "dumb" and "silly" because of their pronunciations.

[–]Lr89Valentina 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Spanish was my first language. She has a slight accent. I notice that sometimes her prepositions are incorrect.

[–]minase8888Nina Bo'nina Brown 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Detox "iCunt"

[–]StankytheStarfishTrinity Taylor 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Valentina the scammer

[–]superimageryValentina 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fact Valentina's so perfect the only thing people can talk shit about is the way she talks. Iconic.

[–]litcntValentina 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Listen, I love Valentina, but her accent is weird. She doesn't actually speak Spanish that well (you can tell especially by the way she pronounces consonants like the Ls in "telenovela" and the D in "Amaldóvar". They're way too hard, like an English speaker would pronounce). She also did say "gracias" weird on the show for a Chicana; we don't talk like that.

I think Valentina grew up with English as her primary language, and she thinks that Spanish pronunciation (with the "th" sound) is more proper or something.

As for her English accent, that's just how Chicanos talk, especially here in the LA area.

[–]kupo0929 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's even more irritating, as some other posters have said, is that people who don't speak even a tiny bit of Spanish are all of a sudden experts on the language. Spanish is spoken by a variety of cultures in LA, not just Mexicans. My Spanish sometimes has a hint of El Salvador or Nicaragua because of where I grew up. Same thing could be said about Valentina. Maybe someone close to her would say gracias with the -th at the end.

Or maybe, just maybe, she used it with the -th the same way Americans sometimes use a British accent. As a Spanish speaker, it really is no big deal.

[–]EdjoervFarrah Moan -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A VER PERRAS. No. I'm from SouthAmerica and living in a bilingual home since I was born. Valentina is faking it, and trust me, there's no way she could pass off as a "she's soooooooooooooooooooooooooo spanish like, she can't pronounce english correctly zomg!" No way. Her accent does sound made up to put up a show. She's forcing her spanish accent, she couldn't even barely pronounce "Verjensita di Juadaluppe". I don't want to hear any goddamned excuses anymore.