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Was Sandy Hook A Hoax? (self.conspiracy)

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Do people on this board think Sandy Hook was a hoax? I just finished watching the recently added Netflix documentary Newtown, which features many of the people that are accused of being "crisis actors" - and I have to say, they seem pretty real to me.

If anyone on this board thinks SH was a hoax, I have one main question that doesnt add up for me: where are these kids? Did they never exist? Are they living at home with their families but everyone in the community is remaining quiet? I would love to believe they are alive, but it just doesnt add up.

The hoax would mean that literally thousands of people conspired (and continue to) to keep this a secret. Is this one conspiracy this board doesnt believe in? Very open to hearing your thoughts.

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[–]Thy_Weapon_Of_War 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (13子コメント)

100% a hoax. No children died. They used fake IDs (names) for the children, and crisis actor parents.

I know it sounds "crazy" at first. But so does Pizzagate, the plan for global government, and many other things related to the elite agenda and their crimes. The evidence is overwhelming that Sandy Hook was a staged psyop.

Look at this first: https://youtu.be/VKr-av9jVx8 (2 minutes)

Here is a very good article to introduce anyone to the truth about Sandy Hook, with the top evidence proving the official story is a lie: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/01/top-ten-reasons-sandy-hook-was-an-elaborate-hoax/

One of the very best documentaries/presentations is "Unraveling Sandy Hook" by Sofia Smallstorm. It's 90 minutes long, but well worth it: https://youtu.be/m1yfJDCMU64

Much of the best evidence is analysis on YouTube. There are tons of documentaries and other videos exposing it. Especially search stuff like "Sandy Hook crisis actors", and watch the clips of guys like Gene Rosen and the other supposed "victims' mothers and fathers".

[–]vokabulary[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Ok I want to understand you completely. So for example, one of the couples who is on the news a lot had an autistic son named Dylan. Are you saying there never was a Dylan?

So if I was their neighbor, I know they never had a kid named Dylan - so why am I not saying so? Because I've been paid to never mention that these people never had a son named Dylan?

Im just trying to understand how all these funerals happened, with so many people, and no one ever saying: "um...they never had a kid named Dylan.."

ps thank you very much for the links

[–]Thy_Weapon_Of_War 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fake funerals. All closed casket. No proof that any child actually died. They used fake names for the children who supposedly died. The pictures of the children could have been 5 or 10 years old. So that the real child is now 13-18 years old.

Researchers have claimed to identify some of the children and their real names. For example, see here: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/tag/lenie-urbina/

[–]Hamsterarcher 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The families all moved into Sandy hook within 3-4 months of another and left the same way. Looks like they were planted in over time. They neighbours are on film saying they didn't really know them but it's really sad. Think they just tricked everyone. Their kids through it was real, that stress being a parent and having that panic and seeing your child panicking is enough for them. The dead kids didn't exist in my opinion. There's also a picture of the supposed girl that died with Obama.

[–]vokabulary[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes I looked up that girl and it appears she was the younger sister of one of the victims.

If they really all did just move there and move back out, that is highly suspect definitely. Im applying the lens of everyone having been there, and still being there (only bc I havent yet encountered the opposite info)

[–]bignuke86 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"younger sister" why do they look so much alike? "thats her younger sister" oh ok im so sorry for your loss.

[–]uberclont 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

but why go to so many elaborate steps when it would be so much easier to have an operative/patsy go kill a bunch of kids at a school?

[–]Hamsterarcher 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why are we assuming that killing would be the easier option. These people have been lying to us right for years, They have a good system in place

[–]Oof_too_Humid 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This guy knew a sibling and thought something was fishy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcF0TdS-s3A

[–]skyderper12 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

kek pizzagate

[–]Thy_Weapon_Of_War 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

What? It's been "debunked" because Alex Jones succumbed to pressure from Alefantis and retracted what he said about Comet Ping Pong and Alefantis?

So elite pedo rings aren't real because of that?

Lmao

[–]skyderper12 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

yes it's because alex jones of all people retracted what he said. lol

[–]Thy_Weapon_Of_War 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What is it then?

[–]vanquish_islam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He said "kek" what more do you want? Evidence? Sheesh...

[–]Prgjdsaewweoidsm 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yes.

The families of the "victims" were already actors, they made millions of dollars from charity, the AR-15 wielding attacker used a shotgun breaching round (you can't do that, if anyone isn't familiar with guns), there was a coverup that made it impossible to see records, and there is dash cam footage that is totally inconsistent with the narrative of the day.

There's a lot more to look into, but that's probably the big points.

[–]vokabulary[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ok, so the dashcam wasnt as convincing to me only because it's just one static angle, the kids couldve gone all sorts of ways.

I do find it amazing that there isnt a single picture of the violence. Like Columbine had all that CCTV footage and even footage of both shooters offing themselves...but there is not one single pic from SH. That's odd. (I know they enacted a law that prevents release of these photos, but still amazed they havent leaked...)

[–]Prgjdsaewweoidsm 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Ok, so the dashcam wasnt as convincing to me only because it's just one static angle, the kids couldve gone all sorts of ways.

Sure, they could have. It's just really unlikely.

The closest thing to a smoking gun in the whole affair is the use of a breaching round. That, alone, almost demolishes the narrative. No shotgun was found at the scene, and the only shotgun was in his trunk away from the school, and showed no signs of being fired, nor did they find additional breaching rounds, IIRC.

I do find it amazing that there isnt a single picture of the violence.

Right, that's why I'm pretty comfortable saying "it didn't happen" unlike other events that just look like something odd is going on. The Columbine kids may have been put up to the attack, but they definitely shot people.

[–]vokabulary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Honestly, if I was a Sandy Hook parent, I would at this point release the photos as it seems like a definitive way to prove that kids died there...it is highly strange to me that this has been skipped for so long. Thanks for your comments. If you can explain the breaching round thing, I'd be grateful bc I dont know what that means.

[–]Prgjdsaewweoidsm 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, if I was a Sandy Hook parent, I would at this point release the photos as it seems like a definitive way to prove that kids died there

If you were a Sandy Hook parent you would sue Alex Jones for millions of dollars for implying that it was fake, and be able to easily produce a mountain of evidence. That is a dead giveaway that nothing happened.

If you can explain the breaching round thing, I'd be grateful bc I dont know what that means.

There are frangible shotgun rounds that are designed for busting a lock without risking damage to people on the other sign. Somebody used one at Sandy Hook, even though the shooter only had an AR15 (which shoots 5.56/.223 rifle rounds).

[–]vokabulary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

All good points, thanks for your comment.

[–]RecoveringGrace 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Even if it meant you and your family would be suicided? Because that is a real thing.

[–]Hamsterarcher 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sandy hook was my red pill. Sloppy sniper playing 2 roles in 1 false flag. Sloppy sloppy shit. They even fucked up on tv saying he shot them all with an automatic assault rifle and there was shells everywhere and their wounds were 100% assault rifle wounds then they filmed them pulling the rifle out of the guys boot after the whole incident. Clown forgot to take it in with him.

[–]Prgjdsaewweoidsm 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sandy hook was my red pill. Sloppy sniper playing 2 roles in 1 false flag.

That's a funny video. He has 2 different rifles, no magazines for either, and like 8 pistol magazines.

His armor is a different design than the other guys he came with, he's wearing women's sunglasses. I mean, it's just a mess.

They trotted some guy out from a nearby office that allegedly is the guy, and apparently there are some records from him before that. But it's real shaky.

[–]bignuke86 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i was on a swat team at my state prison, im also a vet. I worked with the STATE hostage rescue swat team and trained with a few of their guys. very high speed. There is no way in hell an fbi tactical member would ever in a million years be that frumpy, with the wrong vest(being worn wrong btw, the flap should be tucked in) the gear is different, they would NEVER carry their weapon in such a careless manner, etc.. etc. him ducking the abc cameras. hilarious.

[–]dinosauramericana 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look at how much money was funneled into that town. Not only to rebuild the school but moneys given directly to the victims' families by the federal government. Upwards of $50MM distributed to those affected.

[–]YoshiTakimatsui 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it wasn't fake they sure as hell went out of there way to make it look fake as fuck.

[–]TheMadBonger 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The lack of any footage of the event has always bothered me. Our media will happily show "sarin gassed" children on national television but yet we cannot even see a dead soldier or any kind of victims of terrorist attacks in our own country! I am not extremely knowledgeable about sandy hook.

But Sloppy sniper and this other video of the kids and parents being interviewed and then literally walking around the camera man to go for a second go around always cast suspicion on the case. Plus making it illegal to question the authenticity while simultaneously sealing all records about the case, like death certificates, autopsy reports, and other important data like that is double suspicious.

[–]vokabulary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes this tops the list, of why I do have questions...it's so easily debunked and in 5 years they havent done it.

[–]TheMadBonger 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Right? You think out of mercy they would just release some autopsy information showing that the victims died of gunshot wounds and that would shut up a major portion of the critics in my opinion.

Plus if these families are suffering it would be more humane to just stop withholding the information and just put the matter to bed so they can move on with their lives. See you around my friend.

[–]ABrilliantDisaster 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

careful what you ask for. if they're butt hurt enough over the fact that we're on to them, they'll suddenly come out with a bunch of gory fake pictures with lots of ketchup to shut us up.

[–]vanquish_islam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's illegal to question the authenticity? What do you mean?

[–]TheMadBonger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually I cannot find the source of this claim so I might of been talking out of my ass. But a man was arrested for making 4 calls to Sandy Hook Elementary and asking about the incident. All he said was that it was a hoax and he was arrested for harrassment. Although they could not actually say what part of it was actually harassment. Many people have been arrested for questioning it, but I don't think it is actually illegal to do so. So I am sorry for being misleading.

https://downtrend.com/71superb/man-arrested-for-calling-sandy-hook-shooting-a-hoax

[–]5pez__A 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nothing has convinced me it's real. more the opposite. What's in those graves?

[–]vokabulary[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Man, I wish someone had the guts to go find out once and for all...

[–]5pez__A 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone made a video from one of the graveyards a while back, after which there were some alterations made - they came back and did an update. Didn't hear about any digging though - you need a warrant for that. Ground penetrating radar maybe?

[–]ABrilliantDisaster 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Without a single doubt. Fake As Fuck.

[–]vokabulary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Ive watched many of the youtubes claiming this...but how do you explain where those kids are? Did all of those funerals have empty caskets - were all the attendees of the funerals actors too?

How could so many people work together (LE, coroners, ER doctors and nurses, parents of the other 500 kids at the school, media..) and remain silent for so long?

[–]ABrilliantDisaster 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

How would you know if those kids were out there living their lives or not? They weren't the children of the crisis actors.

Yea, all those funerals had empty caskets. No viewings. The funeral was a made for your viewing pleasure feature film like the rest.

Sort of baffles me why peope keep asking how "so many people could keep this secret.." ever heard of the US intelligence community. They keep big secrets every day. Big, Big, elaborate secrets. Sandy Hook is a tiny event in comparison to the much bigger things that have gone on for ages. Compartmentalisation. Only a few people need to know what's really going on.

[–]vokabulary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes but it's asking me to believe that literally thousands of unconnected people (not people who are connected as the Intelligence community) are keeping this a secret. Like, for example, my block has about 25 houses, both Dems and Reps on both sides of the street, so to come down and convince all 25 houses to pitch for the same team, would be, basically impossible. So how did they get citizens of Newtown to do this? There have to be pro-gun people living in newtown that WOULD NOT go along with this...

[–]EpicKnowledge 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think they're saying that these "families" of the dead kids were moved into the town around the same time and integrated with the population. All these people are actors (including the kids?) and all moved away shortly after. To me it seems like alot of moving parts and tough to keep under wraps.

[–]vokabulary[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OK, so it would follow (I think) that that means the other parents of 500 kids are also being duped...that it is only this handful of families that are the actors...which is more plausible than the entire town I guess...

[–]ABrilliantDisaster 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"but it's asking me to believe that literally thousands of unconnected people (not people who are connected as the Intelligence community) are keeping this a secret."

Only a handful are keeping a fully informed secret. Newtown isn't a normal neighbourhood. The town itself and indeed the whole county of Fairfield has been a CIA training ground for decades. None of this would ever include informing an entire community, even if that community was entirely "normal". It's not like the citizens would be present for the event or get to walk up on it. They'd see it in the news like anyone else and that's it.

[–]Thy_Weapon_Of_War 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Real pictures of real children. But fake names. The real parents of the real children went along with the hoax. The publicly named "parents" were crisis actors.

How did all these people remain silent about the JFK assassination? Or 9/11? The NWO/Establishment has ways of silencing whistleblowers, and suppressing the reach of those who try to speak out. There are whistleblowers to all of these false flags and psyops. You just have to dig to find them, because they aren't given publicity in the Establishment media.

There are whistleblowers to the Sandy Hook hoax. Reportedly, several former Connecticut State Police spoke out about it being a hoax.

[–]atthegates78 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And if you go to the town to investigate it, people have been reported following and harassing investigators.

For op, I would watch we need to talk about Sandy Hook on YouTube.

[–]vokabulary[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you can share any links of that I'd love to see them.

I have 2 kids. If all of a sudden I was claiming there were 3 and one of them was dead, there would just be so many people from intimate friends, to facebook friends that would say: yo, listen up this chick only ever had 2 kids we ever saw... it's really the part that makes it hard for me to accept that it's a hoax.

Because there are things that are strange about it...just that one thing doesnt add up.

I feel like JFK, and even 9/11 - whatever the truth may be, many, many less people were involved in the cover up.

[–]Plz_Pm_Me_Cute_Fish 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So everyone thinks they know, but they don't. The children never existed, they are already adults or teenagers, the pictures presented to us were from when they were younger, no one questioned it, it is likely they were bought out.

Those kids are probably working atm, or in college.

[–]chickenshitmchammers 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fake news.

[–]FactCheckFred 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If someone slashes your tires, and if Bill tells you he saw Dave do it, Dave's gonna be in big trouble.

But if you slash your own tires, and if Bill tells you he saw Dave do it, Bill's gonna be in big trouble.

[–]vokabulary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

100% agree / likewise brotha

[–]bignuke86 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ha I just saw that propaganda piece on there today for the first time and laughed/shook my head. Netflix does this from time to time drops a prop piece.

[–]ubisoft_shill 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay so it's fake, but why?

[–]rebuilt11 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk. This was never one I totally bought into. There are some odd facts around the case but idk. I have very intelligent friends with post graduate degrees who believe this one hardcore though so I'm definitely open to the idea.

[–]donaldtroll 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

P1zz@ga+e ritual sacrifices perhaps :o