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[nyc] Phasing out imgur posts (self.nyc)

qadm[M] が 投稿

Over the next month, we will phase out the use of imgur.com for image posts. This will be done in two phases, first with an AutoModerator comment on all imgur.com posts, and then with automated removal.

The reason for this is that imgur has been continuously becoming more clunky and less accessible, and I am no longer able to view the posts on my phone, and sometimes on my computer. The last straw was when adding ".jpg" to the URL for a direct image link was disabled.

Please post your thoughts here, especially any alternatives you know (other than using reddit's built-in hosting.)

Love,
qadm

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[–]_neutral_person 516 ポイント517 ポイント  (1子コメント)

NO.

Edit: In retrospect I seemed a bit harsh. So let me elaborate on my thoughts:

NO. GET A BETTER PHONE.

[–]shy 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is reminiscent of the issues /r/Seattle faced, and the lot of us moved over to /r/SeattleWA. Moderator incompetency and egotism is truly incredible to witness.

[–]shinglee 283 ポイント284 ポイント  (18子コメント)

What an arbitrary decision. NYTimes paywalls me constantly, that's worse than anything Imgur does. Are we banning them too?

[–]neurone214Upper East Side 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Open the articles in incognito mode.

[–]qadm[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (16子コメント)

It has been considered, but it's the fuckin' New York Times...

We do encourage posting an article text/summary in the comments for any paywalled articles.

[–]dumboy 144 ポイント145 ポイント  (15子コメント)

You don't care about all the racism & hate by established, known trolls though.

You don't do the bare minimum & now you want to do even less.

[–]qadm[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

please write the mod mail. we do review reports on a regular basis.

[–]dumboy 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You mean press "report" > "shitting up the comment threads"?

I just did. Half an hour before you wrote this response!

Why not give this subreddit over to people who would be interested in actively moderating it? Its a big sub. Filled with hate. Didn't used to be.

[–]qadm[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

We try our best, but some hate still gets through. Could you please send a link to the post through modmail? Thank you.

[–]dumboy 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Are you saying you either don't know how or don't bother to respond to the "report" button?

[–]qadm[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm saying there are many reports that come in every day, and there is no way for a mod to see who reported what, so I have no idea what comment you're referring to

[–]dumboy 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Whats the process to appeal to the admins to get negligent mods out of major subreddits?

Can you help with that one?

[–]brildenlanch 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The report button does go through the modmail of the subs mods. You guys are talking about the same thing.

[–]snoharm 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It actually does not.

[–]nonhiphipsterCrown Heights 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why, so you don't have to respond publicly haha??

[–]BeenWildin 153 ポイント154 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Are you getting rid of it because of your personally dissatisfaction with it?

[–]qadm[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

The fact that it is inaccessible makes moderation more difficult.

[–]ThisIsMyFifthAccount 159 ポイント160 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So maybe don't be a mod rather than foist something on everyone due to your own technical limitation?

Feel free to post screenshots showing all the reported posts from users echoing your personal problem and maybe it'll make sense, or at least edit your post to lie so you're not so obviously doing something because it only affects you...

[–]LaFlamaBlanca1Hollis 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or just add more mods..? We have one semi-active mod in this sub. /u/googletrickedme, /u/IJCQYR, and /u/BanHammerNYC all seem to be dead accounts. How does a sub with 100,000+ subs have one mod?

[–]Chris2112Newark 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is /u/BanHammerNYC mod of so many NYC subreddits? I'm assuming its an alt of one of the other mods because it literally has no post history or karma, and I believe even if you delete all your posts the karma stays the same.

[–]quixoticacid 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Effects. I am being pedantic, yes, but this posts deserves to prove right at each point.

[–]viksraManhattan 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why not just enforce the rules we have in /r/nycpics (and here in the sidebar) to link directly to the image or else the post will be removed? Also, adding .jpg to a URL to get the direct link isn't enough... you need to add "i." in front of imgur.com... like http://i.imgur.com/f1K8xEl.jpg

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[–]qadm[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a good idea. Unfortunately, what I've experienced with imgur specifically is that ".jpg" links are selectively redirected to the heavy ad-laden page, kind of like photobucket.

[–]ablebodiedmango 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why don't you answer people telling you you should step down?

Why don't you step down? Why do you HAVE to be a mod? Obviously you are not capable of it.

[–]trnkey74 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol I don't' even live in your city but loll.....chawal insaan

[–]coneybeareGreenwich Village 124 ポイント125 ポイント  (32子コメント)

IMGUR is fine, .jpg still works for most. Seems like you are having technical difficulties on a personal level

[–]coneybeareGreenwich Village 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (31子コメント)

Case in point: http://imgur.com/dXW25dz http://imgur.com/dXW25dz.jpg

[–]VikingNYC 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm still using Alien Blue on iOS. The link without "i." opens the image with an imgur overlay (telling me to open the image in the imgur app) followed quickly with a pop up from Alien Blue asking me if I want to open the link outside the app. The link with "i." displays the image.

Things didn't used to be this way until recently (month or so?). Before that even when I would get the overlay asking me to open the image in the imgur app, I would not get an Alien Blue prompt confirming I wanted to open a link outside the app unless I specifically tapped on the overlay (usually as an accident while trying to get it to close so I can see the rest of the image).

It's super annoying but I've gotten used to waiting a half second after seeing a link has taken me to imgur so I can dismiss the pop up before clicking play on a gif or otherwise interacting so I don't accidentally confirm and now have to wait to while I'm redirected out so I can switch back.

[–]qadm[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (29子コメント)

I clicked the second link, and was redirected to http://m.imgur.com/dXW25dz?r

This kind of shady, underhanded shit that is the reason imgur is going to be banned from this sub.

[–]viksraManhattan 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (23子コメント)

qadm, please see what I said before. It's because they aren't linking directly to the image. The link http://imgur.com/dXW25dz.jpg is not the direct image link, even though it has .jpg, because the image does not physically reside at that URL. The correct URL for the DIRECT link to the image, MUST INCLUDE THE "i." BEFORE IMGUR.COM, so the correct direct link is: http://i.imgur.com/dXW25dz.jpg

When you direct link properly, with the "i.", no redirect will occur on any device -- imgur is not doing anything shady, and it has always been this way

Also, please take the time to respond to my PM

[–]old_grumpy_grandpa 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair imgur redirects even i.imgur links to m.imgur pages on mobile, but that can be circumvented by requiring desktop page

[–]qadm[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (18子コメント)

No, you're wrong. When I open the link in baconreader, it goes directly to the image. When I open it in Firefox, it's redirected. Both links behave the same way.

[–]viksraManhattan 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (15子コメント)

qadm, I just checked, and I am not wrong. I just downloaded Firefox (fresh installation without any extensions or add-ons) and opened both of these links:

http://imgur.com/dXW25dz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dXW25dz.jpg

Surprisingly, BOTH links go directly to the image without issue (I was not expecting the link without "i." to redirect to "i", but it's good that it does because it helps you go directly to the image). You also appear to be the only person who was vocal in this thread who is having an issue with it, which suggests that it is an isolated incident on your end. It could be due to the plugins or extensions that you have which are changing the way Firefox's behavior is. Try disabling your extensions/plugins to see what is causing the issue.

The current policy of requiring a DIRECT LINK to an imgur image is strict enough because less technical users may not know how to get the direct link to an image when sharing on a mobile device or even a computer.

The troubles you are alone facing, should not result in a rule change that bans imgur on r/nyc.

[–]qadm[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (14子コメント)

I'm using Firefox on Android. Are you?

[–]viksraManhattan 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Yes, both Chrome and Firefox on an Android phone

[–]EgregiOs 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one likes you.

[–]EgregiOs 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one likes you.

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    [–]coneybeareGreenwich Village 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The redirect clearly goes to the i.imgur.com direct image. Fix your shit

    [–]rangers1026 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lol, "I clicked the link and it worked but I'm going to pretend it didn't to show off for no one."

    [–]loripantsu 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I agree, imgur is fucking awful, it's been awful for years, literally the worst online service I've ever used. Trying to force imgur to provide a direct link instead of their stupid fucking asinine ui while viewing on mobile is impossible (despite "i." subdomain) unless the browser is forced to request desktop mode site.

    [–]MCFRESH01 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's not shady at all. The token at the end of the URL is an identifier for the image that imgur uses to lookup the image in its database. The .Jpg ending probably just exists for convenience so users who are used to linking that way don't get a 404, instead they get redirected to the correct url. Pretty standard web dev stuff.

    [–]InsideICT 192 ポイント193 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    holy shit there is a mod here

    [–]LaFlamaBlanca1Hollis 166 ポイント167 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    They show up once a year and make some unnecessary rule change.

    [–]917BK 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    No more self-posts!

    [–]UnrepentantFenianStaten Island 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No more bitching about the trains, tourists, or other NYers!

    [–]jeepCK 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I think /r/nyc needs some new mods.

    Most of the mods haven't even been active for a few years.

    [–]FantasysageWilliamsburg 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Tell me about it. Ramses and I tried....

    [–]jeepCK 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah, this thread just goes to show how out of touch the mod.

    Seems like all of /r/nyc does not agree.

    Edit: OP and their cell phone. Why won't imgur work?????????

    [–]917BK 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah, and he got rid of you guys because you didn't want to meet up with him for a beer. Guy is a weirdo - I offered to help him out with the mod duties and he pulled the same shit on me too.

    He isn't even from NYC - guy is Eastern European, and has zero ties to NYC except he has happened to live here the past few years. Also mods the Cleveland subreddit or some other midwest town.

    [–]ACeilingFanHolder 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah, but you were not an impartial mod. There is a lot of room for improvement here still, but empowering the likes of you is not a great idea.

    Look at this guy's post history if you want to know what I mean.

    [–]FantasysageWilliamsburg 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Say what you want about me, but when I molded this sub I only followed the rules laid out. I kept the questions, pictures and spam to a minimum. Took me 10-20m a day and I was glad to do it. I never deleted a comment just because I disagreed with the sentiment.

    [–]sparperetorYorkville 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And hes fucking terrible

    [–]joedonut 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    The reason for this is that imgur has been continuously becoming more clunky and less accessible, and I am no longer able to view the posts on my phone, and sometimes on my computer. The last straw was when adding ".jpg" to the URL for a direct image link was disabled.

    Neither seem to be entirely true for anyone except you. The latter excuse is entirely false. Perhaps you need to get the services of a competent computer professional, modern hardware and software, or all three.

    [–]qadm[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    No, imgur is employing selective redirects for some devices and but not others

    [–]joedonut 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Go back and re-read https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/62bwus/nyc_phasing_out_imgur_posts/dflpgy2/ for comprehension.

    You have a problem, the /r/nyc reddit does not.

    [–]qadm[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    See my response: The redirect is selective, for both domains, and if you are not experiencing it, that just means you are not using one of the clients that imgur has chosen for redirection.

    [–]joedonut 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You have a problem, the /r/nyc reddit does not.

    [–]danhakimi 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Can you cite any other person, anywhere who has this problem?

    [–]Mikinator5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This sounds just like the conspiracy theorists that think the government is specifically spying on them.

    If anyone brings evidence against that, thats person is just not one the govt chose to spy on.

    [–]BusinessInAberon 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What a terrible idea, just get a better phone or get another moderator, the last one appointed was 5 years ago (you).

    [–]917BK 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (15子コメント)

    /u/qadm, it looks like there is almost universal opposition to remove imgur links. Given this, are you going to reverse your decision? After all, you are asking for people's thoughts, and it doesn't look like anybody is pleased.

    [–]F4ilsafeCarroll Gardens 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So all of us are not allowed to use imgur because YOU can't see it on your phone? And because YOU don't understand how to right click and hit "open image in new tab" to get the direct link?

    [–]friendlyfire 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    imgur is fine for me and literally everyone else I know.

    It's you. Not us.

    [–]excited_by_typosEast Village 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Woah, a mod

    [–]PUSY-EATER-666Queens 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    That's fucking stupid. Now people are going to have to download any relevant picture they find on imgur and post it in reddit. Counter intuitiveness at it's finest.

    [–]Legofan970 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    This seems like a really bad idea, especially without a recommended alternative. Imgur works fine for most people and I don't know of any other community that has switched.

    [–]qadm[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The recommended alternative is reddit. We are seeking out other alternatives in this thread.

    [–]congerkromp 102 ポイント103 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How about we seek out alternative mods?

    [–]ablebodiedmango 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why Dont You Quit

    It really is that simple. Nobody else is having this alleged problem. Imgur isn't the problem. You are. Stop being a mod.

    [–]viksraManhattan 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    this post should be pinned to the top so that it can get more input

    [–]Eurynom0sMorningside Heights 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's plowing ahead with it despite everyone telling him he's a moron so I don't see what difference pinning it would make.

    [–]Slikdik 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Do you want people to create a new nyc sub? Because this is how you get people to create a new nyc sub.

    [–]ACeilingFanHolder 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Dude. You need support.

    Open up a call for more mods! You have the right idea on moderating this place, but do an abysmal job keeping up with the cesspool. You need more hands here.

    Just my $.02.

    [–]F4ilsafeCarroll Gardens 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you look at the list, he's really the only mod here. Aside from him there are 4 others. 2 socket puppet accounts that aren't active at all, and 2 accounts that haven't posted anything for 1-2 years.

    [–]adacadabrah 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Can we phase out racist comments first?

    [–]alaijmw 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Nah, that would require actual moderation. Which isn't something /u/qadm seems interested in doing. They're apparently just in it for good old-fashioned mod power tripping fun.

    [–]FatherOop 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    What racist comments? Typical liberal safe space whining. I come to /r/nyc to have reasoned discussions about my plan to push all of Harlem into the East River to lighten the social services budget and raze the Bronx to build luxury condos, and you lot have to make it all about race.

    [–]Mainstay17 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Never go full Robert Moses, man.

    [–]bjb399 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on reddit.

    [–]sunshineinabag2 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Can I be a mod instead of this rule change? I'll be neutral and look at the imgur posts for you. I use from my phone so I can do it from anywhere. Kind of new to reddit though so you'll have to show me how.

    [–]AP500 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Even if you were new to Reddit as of last week this would still be a better option than banning Imgur of all things.

    [–]marishtar 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Could you point to some users on this sub that are having this issue other than yourself? I ask this as user with a phone from 2013.

    [–]m4tuna 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As a fellow mod and a New Yorker, this is fucking pointless.

    [–]skankhunt42____ 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Prick

    [–]epthewizard 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You are the worst

    [–]Ryamix 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There is no way that I'm the only one that thinks this is an April fools joke.

    [–]nonhiphipsterCrown Heights 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sounds like a personal problem.

    [–]MyTribeCalledQuestAlphabet City 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    WTF, /u/qadm. You're taking the nuclear option with censorship because you refuse to update your phone?

    [–]cowsmakemehappy 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    stop being poor, we want imgur

    [–]LazarusRises 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Bad

    [–]Ottorange 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is a stupid move. Listen to the users.

    [–]danhakimi 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fuck you, man. If you can't handle imgur, that's too bad for you -- no reason to give shit to the rest of the sub.

    [–]thighcandyKips Bay 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't make this stupid decision. Please.

    [–]IAmA_Kitty_AMA 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Please don't make this change. Imgur is tremendously more popular and has widespread use throughout reddit.

    [–]openfroyoInwood 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is a horrible idea. The subreddit shouldn't have arguably the most popular image sharing site banned over your tech problems.

    [–]silentbrownmanInwood 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think this is unessesary. Imgur works great on every device I've ever used. It's Reddits companion cube! Don't do it!

    [–]smokinJoeCalculus 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Either buy a new phone or step aside and let someone else volunteer as a mod.

    [–]iamiamwhoami 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No

    [–]mrcassetteBed-Stuy 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What a bellend move...

    [–]potatocat 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is a bad idea. Unsubscribed.

    [–]ahintoflime 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    can we not

    [–]Spindash54 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Screw that.

    [–]HorlogerieNYCUpper West Side 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fuck you dude. This is horrible. Imgur is preferred and you're the only person who has an issue with it. Get a new ducking. Phone.

    [–]lookmanofilter -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    New idea: how about don't allow new imgur posts past a certain date? That way, any new posts can be uploaded to reddit, as they have to be uploaded somewhere, and any old images that exist on imgur can still be linked to without having to download and then reupload.

    [–]qadm[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Old posts will not be removed.

    [–]lookmanofilter 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    That's not what I mean. What I mean is that you should set AutoMod to delete posts linking to images uploaded to imgur past a certain date. That way, newly uploaded images can go on Reddit, but we can still link to older images that are already on imgur without having to reupload them to reddit.

    [–]qadm[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Oh, I see. That's a good idea, but I don't think AutoMod can check the date of an imgur post at this time. I could be wrong.

    [–]lookmanofilter 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hmm, seems you're right. I thought media checks included dates but I guess not.

    [–]sideshow9320 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How about fuck you and get a better phone instead of making this a headache for everyone else.

    [–]Noreaga -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    use www.piksur.com