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[–]jabberwockxeno[S] 146 ポイント147 ポイント  (19子コメント)

To clarify how this is relevant: In the article, the reporter discuses wanting sexual content in manga and anime banned, and how she feels that violence and sex in media is responsible for all negative human desires.

[–]Z_for_Zontar 187 ポイント188 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I wonder how the Japanese feel about someone from a nation with a significantly higher rate of sexual assault and child victim related crimes is lecturing them on their media because of the crime is supposedly causes.

[–]abc989 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (3子コメント)

At least he didn't let that go unnoticed:

The interview ended with a very hotly contested exchange. Before leaving, Dooley asked Nogami, “Why don’t you Japanese people follow what the UK does?”

Nogami replied, “Why don’t you British people follow Japan, since we’re more civilized and have a lower crime rate than the UK?”

[–]BarkOverBite 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Damn, that's a burn of the combined heat of the around 100 or so active volcanos in japan.

[–]Solid_Waste [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's a severity of burn the Japanese have typically shunned since Fat Man and Little Boy.

[–]woizard [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Dang Japan I know you got nuked but you don't need to nuke EVERYONE in retaliation.

[–]GoonZL 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The white woman's burden.

I will say this, the Nazis could have learned a thing or two from the English in the matters of racial supremacy.

[–]MagosBiologis 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Historically, they did.

[–]Harry_Fraud 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The white woman's burden.

Aye. One's personality, projected

[–]motionmatrix 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I will assume Nagami's reaction is a decent litmus test.

"Your country got it way worse than we ever did."

[–]slartitentacles [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The UN got a taste of that when they tried to pressure Japan into censoring their hentai last year.

... while you’re trying to fix the rights of fictional characters, you’re leaving the human rights of real women in the real world left to rot.

[–]DangerChipmunkGot noticed by the mods 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well considering that before anime and manga nothing bad ever happened, the reporter might be on to something. Wait...

[–]syncretionOfTactics [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

It's well know that the Japanese Imperial Army were heavy consumers of anime and manga.

[–]Frydendahl [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

State-Shinto? More like state-moe!

[–]Neo_TechniDon't demand what you refuse to give. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well we do pray to Hestia

[–]Dranosh 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Make sure we don't let her read the old testament, she might realize that incest, rape, murder, slavery has been happening for thousands of years.

[–]PinkoBastard [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Sorry Mr. Archbishop of Canterbury, but it looks like the ol' CofE has gotta go. I mean, you don't want to be like those dirty Japanese?"

[–]KaltatheNobleMind [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

bwahaha seriously? hasnt it been proven time and time again that such media actually decreases those kinds of crime not increase it? due to being a safe and legal outlet for such desire and whatnot.

or do they think people are that easily manipulated that any idea that is fed to them gets adopted immediately? because i think that explains why they want to take over pop culture media :(

[–]BarkOverBite [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So, shes arguing that this kind of anime makes people have pedophiliac thoughts.
How exactly would she know that to be true, unless she had pedophiliac thoughts as a result of watching said anime?

Wait, is this an admission that she preys on children?

Goddamn BBC and their progressive pedophile hiring practices.

[–]PessimisticPaladin 186 ポイント187 ポイント  (12子コメント)

because you know the BBC didn't cover up for someone they knew good and fucking well was not only a pedophilia but actively engaging in molestation of children.

Eat shit out of a garbage can you hypocritical fuckwits.

[–]FinalGuardian 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Who was it? Was it the dude sexting a 15 year old?

[–]GirlbeardJ#GameGreerGate 95 ポイント96 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Jimmy Savile probably. He sexually assaulted hundreds of people of various ages over a couple of decades. He must have watched a lot of anime.

[–]InsightfulLemon 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's been happening so long the BBC must have secretly invented Anime in the 50s

[–]nothinfollowsme 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's been happening so long the BBC must have secretly invented Anime in the 50s

I thought that was Austrailia?

[–]MrMcKraut 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is that the guy Milo Yiannopoulos exposed or was that someone else?

[–]GirlbeardJ#GameGreerGate 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone else. I think Milo did a piece on Sarah Butts.

[–]PessimisticPaladin 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

if I recall right it was like one of their big broadcasters or shit was doing some trafficking or receiving trafficking of kids. I think it was pretty big.

[–]AcherosIs fake journalism | Is a prophet | Victim of grave injustice 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think it was pretty big.

I mean, to a five year old everything is going to seem pretty big.

[–]Eworc 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's straight out of the Sarkeesian puritan school.

By Dooley's logic that would make the same people innocent of any action, as clearly the media is the sinner. Which again leads to the "people have no individual agency" position. Mind you this is just speculation on my part, but it sounds awfully much like it.

[–]OtterInAustin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

it's deep-rooted projection: if other people aren't to blame for their shortcomings, then the projecting party obviously can't be responsible for theirs. The self-loathing runs so deeply that this is actually the brain's legitimate attempt to find absolution.

[–]centrallcomp 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Gentlemen, as a weeb and a fan of Japanese games, this shit is the reason why I joined Gamergate in the first place. Sex-negative activists, sleazy journalists, and opportunistic political agenda-pushers have historcally posed a significant threat to Japanese games/media. These dipshits have tried again and again to make inroads under the guise of being on the moral high ground, with their arguments rooted in an obsession with pedophiles and pedophilia-related issues.

There is no greater example of this than the Rapelay scandal of 2009, where feminists discovered the game (five years after its release) on Amazon and flipped their shit hard enough that they attempted to lobby Japan into banning all sexual content from their anime, manga, games and VNs. They even tried to get Equality Now in on that crap. Although it ultimately failed, it burned many bridges between Japanese devs and western fans. IIRC, it also caused Funimation to consider censoring their own DVD releases.

Japan is not immune to western outrage, especially of the anti-moe and/or anti-loli variety. Nevar fucking forget.

[–]wheeeeeha 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember the Rapelay bullshit. As I recall, their moral outrage and grand standing encouraged the translation of everything the characters said in the game, and adding the translations in as subtitles. Good job, dipshit "journalists".

[–]Xovina 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Although it ultimately failed, it burned many bridges between Japanese devs and western fans.

You know, this might be an interesting statistic worth researching: did the Rapelay debacle cause a drop in localized Japanese games? How many Japanese games were localized prior to it and after? If we got concrete numbers, it'd tell us exactly how badly the relationship between Japanese devs and western gamers were hurt by the whole thing.

[–]BattleBroseph 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

What it did do was that it caused a lot more eroge devs to be more careful about how their products might end up outside of Japan. For example, some companies wont let you buy their products unless you use a credit card issued in Japan. Some go even farther like AliceSoft (Rance devs) where you cant even access the website unless it's from a Japanese IP.

[–]Uptonogood 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

minori as well. Which is a shame because their games are great.

[–]Neo_TechniDon't demand what you refuse to give. [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Son of a bitch. I have a Japanese game that does shit like check the language and time zone my PC is set to. Now I know who to blame for it

[–]Orgell_Evaan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Use a VM to run another instance with everything in the "proper" setting.

[–]centrallcomp [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I can't say for sure how much of a drop in localized games we had, although it would be interesting to see some hard numbers.

However, we did experience seeing more Japanese devs being openly paranoid about the west. Minori was the most infamous example--Before the incident, they were considering bringing their VNs over, but when the incident kicked off, Minori was the first one to block their site to overseas IPs. Those assholes even vandalized the TLWiki, which had translation patches to their games. It took them years to finally open up to the west when they let Mangagamer localize the Ef series of VNs in 2015.

What really burned was just how easily localization companies were considering censoring their games. JAST censored Family Project (after delaying the release for a year), Mangagamer originally announced that they were censoring Soul Link and Higurashi and Funimation considered censoring Dance in the Vampire Bund. Thankfully, Funimation and Mangagamer turned around, but it was a huge shock just how easily the scandal made them prone to censor their shit.

[–]PessimisticPaladin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's funny, I'm pretty sure that game was fairly niche for even Japanese porn games.... and didn't the daughter fucking murder you if you didn't ease off a bit? Pointing out that gross abuse, to the point that even someone who wants to not make a big fuss murders your ass in public for your crimes is glorifying shit? It seems to almost be against it.

[–]Gingor[🍰] 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Why don’t you British people follow Japan, since we’re more civilized and have a lower crime rate than the UK?

It's really hard to get Japanese people mad, but when they're mad they're the most savage shitposters the world has ever seen.

[–]Docdan 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean, she basically came into his office to tell him how his life's work is disgusting and he should be jailed.

[–]ShinkuDragonThis flair hurts my eyes 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

oh no, it's real easy to get the japs mad, just hit them in their hobby. if you think GG was bad we'd better hope something similar doesn't happen in japan. the shitposting truly goes off the chart, just go see 2Ch kek.

[–]Bomb_adil 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I wonder if these people have ever heard of the concept of "overstretching" or "strategic overstretch". It's when you keep opening new fronts to fight and hope to win, while you can barely hold the line around the borders of other areas. The usual outcome is that the entire thing collapses at some point because there's just too many enemies.

[–]Absolute_Wanker 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Kind of similar to the Axis during WWII.

[–]turtles_and_frogs 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think the axis were just retardedly outnumbered. China, India, US and USSR. All of them have a bigger population than Germany or Japan. The first two have multiple times the population of Germany and Japan put together. There was absolutely no way in hell the Axis were going to win. The more I think about, the more I am completely boggled that they even tried.

[–]swalafigner 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only problem was US. USSR was unarmed. UK was broke. France...surrendered. China was outdated. It was feasible for the axis to win, and their loss if often indirectly attributed to Pearl Harbor(4th enemy) & The Battle of Stalingrad(resulting in doubling the size of eastern front)

[–]astrobounce 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, if Japan had only tried to conquer China, it probably would've been eventually successful due to an incredibly unstable political situation and Chiang Kai-shek's complete failure in leading the KMT.

[–]Laytonaster 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This story's been out for a couple months, so it's no secret that Dooley is a complete scumbag (but when you're with the BBC, that's a given). It's also no secret that plenty of people see through Dooley's horseshit.

I'm amused to read that BBC and Dooley left the interview out, but I can't say they're surprised. Nogami-san's rebuttal was brutal, savage, and humiliating of them, whom tried to impose their self-righteous bullshit imperialism, poorly hiding it under the guise of extremely shallow goodwill.

“My desire is to put all pedophiles and ones who produce pedophilic media in jail.”

No, it isn't, Dooley. Your desire is to telegraph how supremely moral and righteous -YOU- are. But your head is so fucking far up your fucking ass that you treat anyone who you think isn't remotely as moral as you deserves to die. You don't care about the methods, and you don't care who you might hurt or what you might damage along the way.

Fuck off, Dooley. And fuck off, BBC.

[–]BukM1 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

anyone who is not a complete fucking moron when given the premise that "X causes Y" should perform a basic sanity check and ask themselves. "OK if that is true then what would we expect to see in the data, and if not true what would we expect to see in the data" and then they would look at the data.

in this case you would expect an increase of exposure and popularity of Anime and Manga would cause a proportional increase in criminal Paedophilia events, but it doesnt.

so what we have here instead is some moronic ignorant cunt who tries to demonise an entire pasttime culture and preference based on her own hysterical reaction and stupidity and extrapolates it into a scaremongering expose into a non existent issue, all because she "feels" she doesnt like them and they therefore "Must be bad"

FUCK THE BBC AND STACY DOOLEY, SHE IS A MORONIC CUNT

[–]nbtry 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also, if people are inherently innocent then who even started corrupting us?

[–]hansiisgod [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Satan, of course. And by Satan, I mean the Patriarchy. I'm pretty sure the talking snake was supposed to be Satan, therefore male, therefore the Patriarchy talked Eve into eating strange fruit. Therefore the Patriarchy corrupted mankind.

Checkmate, atheists. /s

[–]PessimisticPaladin -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a better argument for this kind of stuff, if you want to go there. Is that welfare causes crime. The places with a lot of welfare seem to have a lot of crime. Not just poor people either. I mean I heard before welfare got big these places had less crime.

I'm not at all certain though.

[–]Crazyripps 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah yes anime promotes people into becoming Pedophiles it's not like BBC covered a pedophile for years till he died.

[–]Astromachine 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Dooley is the opposite – she feels humans don’t have dirty desires, but can be corrupted through media showing gore, erotica, and pedophilia.

Wow, this is just such a completely retarded way to ignore the entire history of mankind. As if things like child brides and pedophilia never occurred until the invention of Japanese Anime.

[–]PessimisticPaladin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like she sees a pile of bullshit and think the bull came from the pile of shit.

[–]Bloomberg12 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think only a very, very small amount of people actually have "dirty desires" by default and I think those people would usually be defined as mentally ill because they cannot fit the constraints of society.

That being said it's retarded to blame media as the cause, it might be a contributor but people getting abused as children or people witnessing those acts in person have a way bigger impact on someone.

Edit: By dirty desires I mean to commit murder, acts or terror, arson, to kill small animals for amusement, to rape etc. I do not mean to want to have sex with other humans or to masturbate.

[–]swalafigner [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Roughly 99% of males 14 or older have masturbated, so I would say that if 4% of women have as well, then the majority has/does masturbate

[–]Bloomberg12 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

By "dirty desires" I meant desires to do bad things like murder, commit arson or acts of terror or to rape. Masturbation doesn't really hurt anyone, it's not really bad thing.

[–]PessimisticPaladin [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It depends. do you mean literal actual perversion? Then it's probably fairly rare, if you mean how people butcher pervert to mean, an adult who wants sex, then it's obviously extremely common.

[–]Bloomberg12 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I mean just desires to do major crimes for little to no benefit outside of pleasure.

[–]BattleBroseph 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, it begs the question of "if humans are naturally innocent and pure, then who corrupted the first human?" Who or what is this metaphorical Serpent in the Garden of Eden?

As for me, if wallowing in debauchery and pleasure is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

[–]Master10K 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's funny how an article about anime and pedophilia, is using Girls und "Fuckin" Panzer as an example. XD

[–]Bloomberg12 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

That's a really weird example to use. Why not something like kodomo no jikan that's about a teacher's borderline sexual relationship with his grade 3 student which often features near nudity?

Or konosuba as an example of a anime that's popular right now, since megumin who is the most popular character is 13/14 depending on where in the show.

[–]PessimisticPaladin [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

or maybe kissxsis or something, or even fucking miss kobayashi's dragon maid? I mean it isn't much but it does seem almost kind of sexual between kanna and her friend squeeing at every opportunity.

[–]Bloomberg12 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Kanna doesn't really feel sexualised, at least to me. I'm pretty sure she's just meant to be really cute(Which she does a good job of) and her friend is there to show she's really cute.

I guess there was the twister scene though.

[–]PessimisticPaladin [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That was the scene I was thinking about. Also didn't she say something about wanting to fuck her in some way? In the dug she said "dragon style" I heard the word was censored in the sub.

[–]Bloomberg12 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Uhh I don't think so, I don't remember anything like that.

They seem like normal friends most of the time, I just think kanna's friend is probably just bad with physical contact.

She's also meant to be somewhat of a character you project onto(But if it were a dude it would be weird for viewers so they made it a girl), on top of being someone who is there to emphasize her cuteness.

[–]abc989 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If she was really worried about child sexual abuse she could have just stayed in her own country and gone to Rotherham, where there's actual children involved, but apparently she's more worried about the depiction of fictional characters rather than actual crimes against real children.

[–]Neo_TechniDon't demand what you refuse to give. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bingo. They keep trying to do more about virtual women than real ones

[–]bloodlustshortcake 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What the fuck is up with shitty western media constantly shitting on Japan ?

[–]ValexYes 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mentally ill people surprisingly can't distinguish fantasy and reality.

[–]target_locked 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dooley is the opposite – she feels humans don’t have dirty desires, but can be corrupted through media showing gore, erotica, and pedophilia.

Can we draft and pass legislation allowing us to shoot these people into space?

[–]Roastmonkeybrains 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wasn't child porn pics legal in Japan until fairly recently?

[–]Bloomberg12 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes it was banned somewhere around late 2013 or 2014. I think it's also worth noting that the laws for possession of child porography seem fairly lenient on their sentencing to me, since apparently it's a ~10,000$ fine or a year in prision, but it may have changed since the law was intoduced. I would assume production and distribution have much harsher prision sentences.

During this time japan decided not to ban loli pornography because "Daisuke Okeda, a lawyer for the Japan Animation Creators Association, told CNN that the new law was to protect children from abuse and that banning animation "would not satisfy the goal of the law.” and also "The new law does not include the banning of anime and manga that feature explicit scenes of children, after lawyers and publishers argued that censoring the materials would curb free speech." Both of these quotes are taken from a time article.

[–]Absocial 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, a classic series of fallacies from someone convinced that their vision of the right cause, no matter how scientifically unsubstantiated, is the right one!

The first mistake made is of course to refute the notion that venting through fiction doesn't work - It clearly does. All non-biased evidence points towards the fact that taboo fiction at best reduces the amount of illegal deviations the consumer carries over from fantasy to action, or at worst has no effect on the consumer and their behavior whatsoever. This goes all the way back to the classic anti-videogame lobbies, arguing th violent content makes you violent.

Second of all, evidence gathered from countries like Denmark (Represent!) suggests that a liberal approach to pornography drastically reduces the amount of sexual violence committed in a country.

The notion that sexual taboo-fiction like what's being described, containing gore and "inappropriate sexual behavior" to put it delicately, promotes this sort of behavior in the real world, can be refuted by simply looking at these things in a historical context. If removing this sort of imagery stopped these kinds of crimes, then why have these ethical issues followed us all the way from ancient Greece and earlier? Why are these sorts of behaviors common among other species? Why is the Catholic church such a prolific perpetrator, if abstinence and "positive imagery" supposedly encourages innocent behavior?

Edit: Interesting side-note - I didn't really want to associate myself with GamerGate, but obviously I have no choice. I mean, there is nowhere else to turn to for rationality. This is my first post here, so.. Hello!

[–]CravenTHC 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So this journo wants to spark a crusade about lolis and "young looking" anime girls, so they use Girls und Panzer as the source example?!? They could have at least got someone from an actual hentai or even a loli hentai. Girls und Panzer may not be completely innocent, but the show has literally nothing to do with attraction to anything other than tanks. It's been awhile, but I don't even remember a romance subplot during the entire show. This is like complaining about violent video games and using Super Mario Bros. as the example.

[–]Puddimans-FIN [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ok... Any self respecting journalist would had actually researched the facts and noticed "Shiiiiiiit, even when they have the biggest anime culture in world, they still have less crime than we." instead of condemning a pastime culture based on two waifu fest animes.

[–]Gmtom 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just going to make minor, but important addition, she's with BBC 3 which really doesnt have the same kind of standards or reputation that other BBC outlets have.

[–]Combustibles 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And my respect for Stacey Dooley and her ability to understand stuff she disagrees with disappeared.

[–]Steampunk_Moustache 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nogami’s interview was not included in the finished documentary.

Not surprised - it sounds like he shot down her arguments and left her so butthurt by the end of it that she revealed her power level and basically admitted that she wants to see him jailed.

Dooley's view that humans are born innocent and then corrupted by things they see is some of the most moronic shit I've ever heard.

I've watched domestic dogs commit rape and murder. What happened there? Was Fido sent over the edge by furry porn?

[–]EliteTK 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I say that the BBC promotes loss of brain matter.

[–]Chuck_ChasemThe most feminist garb ever made: The burka! [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Such amazing "Journalism" from the BBC. It's all agenda-driven these days with ZERO focus on being objective. She treated him with no respect and more like a prosecutor. For someone who keeps virtue on a pedestal, she sure is INTOLERANT of other cultures. I hope Japan never falls under the SJW agenda.

Edit: Looks like she's the Lacy Greene garden variety of SJW.

[–]Stlrpaoyj [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A bit ironic, seeing as the BBC is only about three or four years away from doing stories about how pedophilia is Islamophobic.

[–]bickid 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is such bullshit on multiple levels:

1.) Obviously, fictional media doesn´t cause pedophilia. Pedophilia is a sexual attraction that, unfortunately for those impacted by it, isn´t compatible with our societal norms. You don´t choose your sexual attraction, just like you don´t choose to be gay. And in-before: Yes, idiots often like to declare pedophilia a mental illness, not a sexual attraction, but that´s just part of the stuck-up ignorant morality of society: If they acknowledged it as a natural sexual attraction, it´d be harder to condemn pedophiles as monsters.

2.) By claiming "causes Pedophilia", this article is, from the very start, painting pedophiles as bad people. This is the biggest bs that always gets me angry: Most pedophiles are absolutely decent people that never commit a crime. We only hear about the bad pedophiles (aka sex criminals), because no sane pedophile would ever reveal himself. If you reveal yourself as a pedophile in our current society, you get reactions from the entire spectrum, ranging from simply being shunned and outcast by people, to being talked into inhumane chemical castration, up to straight forward death wishes. If it wasn´t clear, no, I´m not a pedopihle, but I´m sick how assholes attack them, just because they´re such an easy target that cannot defend itself. And even SJW assholes like the people at NeoGAF that are all for gay people and transgender and such, wish death to pedophiles. Fuck them.

3.) Strictly speaking about the word "promoting": Wrong. Lots of anime feature young, hot girls. But guess what: The entire world loves young, hot girls. What you have in school girls in Japan, are cheerleaders in the USA. Add to that that manga/anime often (mostly) target a younger audience and you should understand why there are young girls. Although I can hardly think of any sexualized loli characters in the recent years. Usually, girls in anime are young, but have bodies that rival the hottest adult woman, talking about cup size, waiste line and thighs.

4.) Let´s assume certain content is enjoyed by pedophiles: For fucks sake, it´s FICTIONAL. Let them have something. As mentioned above, most pedophiles are poor, unfortunate souls that live in constant fear of being found out and can never truly have the kind of relationship that would make them happy. So, for chrissake, let them fap to some loli-hentai doujin. There´s no victim.

5.) And regardless of who enjoys whatever content: FUCK CENSORSHIP. Stop limiting creative freedom of authors and artists. If something flops commercially, the market will regulate itself, less content of a certain kind will be made. That´s how capitalism works. But stop it with the censorship, just because something hurts your own, ignorant morality. I´m not into it, but for all that´s worth, have there be games/anime/manga where 5-year olds are gang raped. It doesn´t matter how disgusting something is, AS LONG AS IT´S FICTIONAL. Thx to idiots like that woman, Nintendo removed the breast slider from Xenoblade X, complete screwed over Tokyo Mirage Sessions, and changed text in Fire Emblem Fates. Just stop this crap. No censorship. How hard can it be?

Sorry for the lengthy rant, but I know that nobody else will do it.

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[–]youreallmeatanyway 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Not that I agree with the "journalist" at all, but I will admit that the older I've gotten the more creeped out I am by how comfortable the Japanese are in sexualizing 13 year old cartoon girls.

[–]Derpazu 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Won't somebody think of the pencil lines on paper?!

[–]PessimisticPaladin 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

To be fair as soon as a girl starts feeling sexual desire, she's gonna start sexualising herself to get the sexual attention she wants. It may be too soon for her to do it, but she's going to do it as much as she can get away with. It's instinct.

[–]youreallmeatanyway [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I do not disagree. That is part of human sexual exploration and you can't really stop that. My qualm is when grown ass men are animating millions of frames of a horse-head demon raping a 12 year old.

That part falls well outside the "normal maturation process".

[–]PessimisticPaladin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Is that the infamous "rape-horse" I hear about in the new berserk?

If so berserk is kind of hard core fucked up in many ways. Like there is a scene in the hellsing manga of a nazi vampire literally eating a baby, like a whole baby in his mouth.

That grotesque shit burned itself into my mind in a way I wish I could remove. Berserk is a similar kind of show/book series.

[–]AgITGuy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Someone mentioned above that until recently it was legal to have child porn pictures. I thought the idea is to shift from kiddie porn to anime where they are fictional characters and not real children.

[–]youreallmeatanyway [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That would be preferable, yes. Still creepy as fuck though.

[–]swalafigner [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They're moving towards drawn 13+/16+ pics is the youngest depiction, right now I believe it's anything drawn/13+ pics

[–]Solid_Waste [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

When I see someone with an attitude like this I'm always certain they have some seriously twisted shit in their closet.

[–]lord_empty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How is this journalism? She has an agenda that is not supported by the basic statistical information that is readily available in a Google search - yet somehow feels she is not only right, but is more right than facts or evidence or people from the country she's trying to smear. Japan should look into suing her for libel.

[–]Agkistro13 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No, Salon does that. Are they going to expose Salon?