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[–]801735 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thumbs up, keep the spice flowing.

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Shamelessly pegging ya. Thumbing the fuck up - keep it coming mate! Great read so far.

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OK, I’ve got problems with my wife, but the solution to this one is quite simple: DO IT ANYWAY. The reason you “can’t” is because you are afraid. Sorry, but it’s just that simple. Afraid of her, afraid of the consequences, afraid of the disapproval of yet another strong woman – I don’t know, but you have to get over it. Here’s what you do: Months ahead of your planed trip, you TELL her: “honey, I’m planning our yearly fishing trip for June 7-14. Any conflicts I should know about, because I’m making reservations today.” (using active language puts YOU in control. Getting the all clear from her gets you off the hook from any “surprises” that might pop up.) As the months go buy, she will no doubt bait you into arguments, give you guilt trips etc. The BEST tactic is to simply IGNORE her. DO NOT get drawn into a battle. If she’s in a pissy mood, and says nothing is wrong, well then act as if nothing is wrong, This is my #1 technique for staying in control. When you leave on the trip, LEAVE HER BEHIND. Put all her pissing whining and guilt tripping out of your head and have fun, It will be there when you get back, trust me. Guys the only way a woman can control you is if you LET her. Truth.

I’ve been married for ten years, and it sucks, a lot. I love my kids, but my wife is a control freak and a bitch, and her main mission in life seems to be to grind me down into some sort of Stepford Hub. As an example, I went to pick up my daughter at a birthday party over the weekend. For once, the people throwing the party didn’t have a lot of money, and it was a smallish, sort of cheap house, with a few kids in the back yard swimming in an above-ground pool, which was deep enough for them to swim, but not so deep they could get into any trouble. For once, the party wasn’t some frantic, ubermommy running around trying to outdo her friends. My daughter had spent two or three hours swimming in the pool, and had a blast. So when I got home, I told my wife that it was a great party, the best I’d ever seen, and she got all pissed because I apparently had implied that the party she was going to throw in a week for my daughter wouldn’t be as good, and wasn’t that insensitive of me, and so on. I wish I had not married her, except for the kids. The thing I learned is that power is a really important thing in marriage. Once they realize you have the power, women are far, far nicer to you. It’s fucked, but they are. As for those who are considering marriage, do it if you want kids, but remain in control, and don’t let her even think about trying to change you.

A statistical impossibility for ALL the men in this thread to have married the “wrong woman”. A simple truism is that you really can’t “tell” who the person is before you marry them. At that point the green felt on the blackjack table is redone and the new hand dealt is one that is unlikely to work in your favor. Thus, for a man to get married simply because he friends are getting married or that he wants to show his girlfriend that he truly loves her is a foolish man, indeed. The main reason why men get married in the first place is because he is with the first woman who excites him and gives him exclusive and consistent access to her overrated pussy. In a moment of irrational, unclear thought he decides that marriage is for him and then he enters into an agreement where the odds are stacked against him. In most cases of marriage, the sizzle quickly subsides and normalcy sets. Predictability is a killer for romance and a destroyer of sexual relations, and that’s what is likely to happen. Once the divorce papers are filed (twice as likely for the woman to file than the man in the U.S.) the man is likely to lose access to his children and will probably have to pay for child support and alimony. Thus, it is in a man’s best interest to put off marriage for as long as he can unless he absolutely wants to have children. Choosing the “wrong woman” is chick logic as it assumes that there is a soul mate or a male’s anima in biological form waiting out there to be “found”. Such a thing is unlikely and to presume it can happen is foolhardy.

Women will try to change you, it’s inevitable. What you can do at the minimum is look like you are alpha. Speak loudly, stomp, make noise, don’t take any shit. If she yells, yell back so she knows you won’t take that. At the same time, take care of responsibilities before she thinks about them. Only then will you have a ‘happy’ marriage.

Guys, you need to understand something. It’s very simple. Women only love you to the extent that they need you. Once they don’t need you any more, you are history. So when I married, I used a very simple strategy: I married a very nice woman who I knew for a fact could never build her own career. She wasn’t quite a “smart” as I wanted, but she was sweet and a great artist. 10 years later, she depends on me, I’m the sole breadwinner. She raises the kids. Very old-fashioned. Is is still difficult to be married? Hell yes. But she’s not divorcing me any time soon, and when I stand my ground in a fight, she listens. Because, frankly, she needs my earning ability. That is the secret of a successful marriage. And that is why, over the centuries, societies have discouraged women from having careers. Because women who are financially independent turn into total fucking jerks who fuck over not only men, but everybody in their way. Women are, by genetic design, totally and completely incapable of being trusted with independent power. They are selfish to the core, designed that way my Mother nature to help them cope with the stress of the insanely difficult job of raising children. Under certain conditions, that selfishness works fine for everybody…for example, when they are dependant on a man for breadwinning. Power corrupts, and in this is no different for women than for anybody else. Everybody needs something to keep them in line. Everybody, without some controls on them, turns into a jerk. So in our modern society, women have been relieved of essentially ALL social control. They can do any fucking thing they want to the men in their lives, with no consequences. They can even gun them down, claim it was self-protection, and get away free. It’s no surprise then that women are such heartless, horrible swinish louts in today’s society. They are allowed to let their selfishness, petulance, sexual power, and self-absorption run WILD and you bet, this turns them into awful human beings. So again, Men, what can you do? Whatever you do, avoid a woman who is “perfect”. Who makes a lot of money. Who is extremely beautiful. Who is a fuck machine. All of those things will make her seem desirable to you, but strangely, those are exactly the things that will make her a lousy wife. You aren’t marrying a woman because she is the BEST. You are marrying her because she will be a good wife…to YOU. Think about that.

[–]YourAverageBloke2[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What I would do, if I could do it differently, is get a woman who is dependent on me. Men understand the responsibilities of power, women do not, as you said. Get a woman who listens to you and obeys you and you’ll do what nature intended – have a happy loving family.

When I first got married, and when I was younger, I spent a huge amount of time and effort trying to do the right thing. I would listen patiently to some woman’s problems, I would try to help my wife talk about her issues when she was pissed off at me, etc. It didn’t work. Donald Rumsfeld said once that “Weakness is provocative” and he was absolutely right, at least with respect to women. Women understand and respect power, when they see it, and will then allow themselves to treat you reasonably. If they see a lack of it, they will abuse you. Men aren’t like that, typically. If a man sees another man who’s weak, he’ll ignore him, but he won’t abuse him. Women will. You have to be very careful about paying serious attentions to the accusations your wife makes, putting up with bullshit, etc. Women are incredibly skilled at allowing their own emotional state to be the only thing that matters in making a decision — you know, “I cheated on you because I wasn’t getting my needs met, which makes it okay.” They’re a lot less likely to do this if they know you can leave them, and bankrupt them. Woman are also not too rational — they’re not big on thinking about consequences. Men are.

Best advice I ever got, from Stanley Bing actually. When you have a fight with your wife…FIGHT HARD. DON’T back down. You are doing her, yourself, and the world a disservice if you do.

[In response to a 36-year-old man considering marriage]: Never get married. You’re finally at the age where life starts getting really good: You can date a girl half your age and it’s LEGAL!!! From my experience, the 10-15 years age difference in a “more sophisticated” woman hasn’t made any difference in anything. Women are now perpetual teenagers who never grow up, so you may as well get the body that matches the mind.

Would you want to live with a retard for ten years? Because that’s what a kid is, a really stupid person who doesn’t know shit.

That’s just luck. A lot of men do everything “right” and when they marry are sure their SO is rational, loving, into sex, etc. Whether the woman stays like that is down to luck – all a man’s judgment and actions do is maximize his chances of success. A lot of women put on their best face before marriage at the subconscious level and stop making the effort afterward. They don’t even do this consciously, so they seem to actually BE better women beforehand, rather than putting on an act. It can be almost impossible to see this kind of thing coming. If a woman, for whatever reason, changes or decides she is no longer satisfied in marriage, the man is screwed. He doesn’t need to actually do anything wrong.

So you call their bluff. You’d think going without sex for a while was some kind of intolerable torture. Pop in a porn. Rub one out. You’ll survive and you’ll have cut off that source of power she has over you. Freedom always comes at a price – pay it willingly. The irony is that if withholding sex gets her what she wants with you, she’ll only do it more often. Make it irrelevant to her getting what she wants and she’ll stop using that tactic. You’re just creating a rod for your own back with your short-sightedness. Think with the big head for a change.

Marriage for a man these days is handing a woman an axe, then putting his head on a chopping block in the trust that she won’t cut it off. She doesn’t do the same for him.

Women have no idea what they want, they need to be told and controlled. If you are too nice or become apathetic, you are fucking doomed. Either way, if you get married, you are doomed. Women are cunts, and they are absolute masters of mental torture and abuse. If we simply hired bitches to interrogate and torture all captured terrorists, the war on terror would be over in less than a year.

this part bears repeating a million times. The ideal marriage promoted by educated women, the partnership of ‘equals’, is a recipe for misery. As a man you must have the upper hand. Marry an equal and your sex drive will give her the edge since she can do without sex longer than you can. A dependent woman is a good woman.

Just wanted to reiterate how, after my recent divorce (check a few pages back), fucking inspired I am by all you tards. I never thought I’d say it, but this is really a great forum for shit like this. My advice for all you beaten down, miserable guys stuck with some fucking twinkie-eatin’, american-idol/extreme-makeover-watchin’, annoying bitchy cunt is GET THE FUCK OUT. Take your life back. I’m not tooting my own shit, but since I’ve gotten divorced, I’ve gotten into 2 MBA schools (haven’t picked yet), played in 7 beach volleyball tournaments, and about 3 months into a fucking marathon training program. Yes, I miss the easy, consistent quality sex. No, I do not miss just about anything else. This is YOUR life tards. One shot, no “do-overs,” are you REALLY gonna spend it with some unhappy fucking cunt? FUCK THAT. Reclaim it. Do all the shit you always wanted to do. The pussy will COME to you. Make your move.

I’m tired of fucking by a script. We’re allowed to fuck in certain positions that are to come in a certain order. There are to be no deviations from the script. Ever. (It goes without saying there are no blowjobs in the script.) It bores me to tears. I’d way rather jack off, which is pretty much what I do these days. If I jack off I can at least fantasize about some fucking variety.

I showed the thread page to a friend at work, and he laughed his ass off. Number of postings on a thread about Rove: 12. Number of postings on a thread about Iraq: 22 Number of postings on a thread about movies: 7 Number of postings on a thread asking how many married guys hate their life: 500. [Note: I believe it eventually went up to about 7,000!]

No sex is worth putting up with a fucking cunt who uses it to grind you down. Reply: Clarify what you mean by “grind you down.” Reply to reply: It’s a long term grind. Putdowns. Undermining your every move. Taking cheap little shots to humiliate you in front of your friends.

I just wanted to re-iterate something. It’s not that women love you because they need you. Their love IS their need. They are the same thing. That is all their love is. They invented the word “love” and replaced it over the more honest fact of their need, and surrounded it with all this fictional bullshit, a hundred years back, to better trick men like you into committing to things without knowing what you’re getting into. They don’t love “you” at all. They love the image of you, what you provide to them that they want or need, what fantasy number you can help them check off of their internal list. If you look at a women’s life…her series of lovers that she takes…the high-school boyfriend, the college professor fling, the Harley-driving boyfriend, the rich stock broker boyfriend, the solid child-raising husband… All of the guys she “loves” are just a set of internal fantasy men that she has in her head from adolescence. When she finds a convenient guy who happens to fit a fantasy, she acquires him, experiences him, fucks him, whatever, so she can check off one row of her mental list of fantasy conquest boyfriends. In most cases if you ask her what the guy was actually LIKE, what he thought, what he cared about, etc, it’s unlikely she even noticed. His actual thoughts were irrelevant. His wants and needs, his dreams, weren’t something she was even conscious of, except to the extent that his dreams were part of her fantasy of him. He wasn’t really a human being at all, in her view. Many women really view men as horses, and they are the riders. High-strung, maybe beautiful horses yes, but in the end, just animals to help them achieve their goals.

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Semonides of Amorgos, The Types of Women, c. 550 B.C.: Zeus made this supreme evil—woman: even though she seem to be a blessing, when a man has wedded one she becomes a plague.

A woman is like a vampire. She will suck the joy out of your and leave you a shriveled husk of a man. But she must; that’s how she survives. Getting married is like agreeing to live in a vampire’s coffin for all eternity.

I was driving back from a meeting this morning, thinking about my wife, and I really wanted to go home, and simply beat the living shit out of her. I have been supporting everyone for years, working my ass off, and my wife has not done one single fucking thing to make my life easier, to encourage me, or to help me with anything that’s bugging me. She’s on the PTA, the board of her preschool, she teaches art at the elementary school, is involved in a book club, and on and on and on. Her calendar is ridiculous. But I am some kind of fucking afterthought. I’m the engine that powers this entire thing, and I haven’t gotten laid in months. She takes care of the children during the week, fine. But we have a housecleaner, because actually cleaning the fucking house is beneath her. We take shirts to the dry cleaner, because she couldn’t possibly iron them. Clean laundry is in piles in the garage, because she can’t be expected to fold it. On weekends, I’m apparently her assistant. I can’t wait for Sunday night to come, when I can get out and head back to the office. And every day there’s some new example of truly shitty behavior — a bad attitude for any human. For example, last night she was at her fucking PTA meeting, which ran from 7 until 11. I went to bed, and had just turned the light out when she shows up at the front door, and starts ringing the fucking doorbell. She didn’t have her keys. She then informed me that she never does. I pointed out that having keys to your own house might be a smart thing to do. And she acts like that’s some kind of major insult, and then launches into a description of what happened at this meeting. I stopped her, and said something like “You know, I was in bed and almost asleep, and you got me up.” It didn’t even occur to her that a) I would actually mind being jerked out of bed by the doorbell; b) I wasn’t interested in a blow-by-blow at that moment. Finally, after years of this, the truth is starting to sink in, and I’m devolving into this serious, angry person to be around. All the normal, considerate stuff I used to do I don’t. I don’t talk to her unless I have to, and not any longer than necessary. She catches me looking at her sometimes, and the expression she sees on my face frightens her, I think. Somewhere along in here, she’s going to ask me if something’s wrong, and I’m going to start screaming at her. I’ve tried marriage counseling. I’ve tried listening, and giving, and being nice. Now, I’m going to try fear and intimidation.

She refuses to work. She always has some excuse. She’s depressed, she won’t make a lot of money, I make enough for both of us, she takes care of the house (not really). It’s one fucking thing after another. So I just save myself the trouble and don’t bring it up anymore. Fucking bloodsucking cunt.

My life sucks but my wife certainly doesn’t.

11 years. My wife is currently out a Wal Mart buying worthless plastic shit. She’s 70 lbs overweight. If it wasn’t for the kids I would kick her fat ass to the curb. REPLY: Do it now you stupid fuck! Save yourself! I have been married 38 years, two years ago I checked with an attorney and if we split up you know what she gets? She gets EVERYTHING. Know what I get? I get NOTHING. Yeah, you will have child support but you will also be bying the 27 years I fucking squandered. DO IT! Pleasssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee do it! Save yourself and you will thank me later.

I also agree the best way to reduce the bullshit from a wife is to stand up to her the first time and every time. Love her or not, it’s important to demonstrate that you could live without her.

I used to have friends. Till I got married. I used to have fun. Till I got married. I used to have money. Till I got married. Someone get me a gun. I’d rather be buried.

The biggest problem I see is men getting married “because she wants to”. That is automatic disaster, no exceptions. Only get married if it’s YOUR DECISION and if you’re over 25 years old and it’s NOT just because she’s good in bed (that’s a terrible reason)

I make it work, but only within the context of the shittiest existence I can imagine in terms of what I expected in marriage versus what I got. What I expected: laughter, doing everything together (from boring bill-paying to swing dance lessons to movies on the couch to Sunday morning papers to buying tampons to medical problems when they arose to whispered sweet nothings to deciding on a new sink for the kitchen to…), great sex for life, growing old together, dying while looking into her eyes. What I got: a woman who after marriage instantly turned into a shrewish whining nagging sexless frigid materialistic petty manipulative cunt who only cares about how much money I make, constantly upgrading her fucking wedding diamond (it’s now 3.67 carats), and spending my cash on clothes from N-M, goddamn fucking window treatments from some specialty shop, and endless fucking shit from Pottery Barn that has nothing to do with my life or our life. Biggest mistake? Should’ve spent more than 4 years getting to know her. Should’ve not let the great sex cloud my mind. Goddamn it all to hell.

To those who aren’t married, one key thing: Take a good look at the girl’s mother. She will, invariably, become just like her mother. You’ll want to believe this isn’t the case for your sweet little thing. You’re wrong. Completely wrong. Bank on it.

What a bunch of whiny pussy whipped shitheads. I’ve been married for over 25 years and I have full control of everything. How did I do it? Easy, just adopt an attitude of, “hey, if you don’t like it, there’s the fucking door”. This attitude has served my marriage well. My wife thinks I’m one step away from walking out, and she treats me like a king. Of course I treat her with respect and don’t rub it in her face, but she knows that in the end, I run the show. We get along just fine. Get a grip you fucking pussies.

Look. I’ve spent a couple of years studying this and thinking about it. I am not going to spend my life like this. Here are a few things I’ve learned: 1) Women respect power. They will never admit it or even know it, but that’s what they respond to. Period. 2) Women don’t know what they want. 3) A lot of women aren’t actually very smart. 4) We are living in a culture that systematically degrades men. If there was a female Homer Simpson character, there’d be a civil war. 5) Read the following books: “No More Mr. Nice Guy” “What Men Know and Women Don’t” “The Manipulated Man” The whole society has, at this point, devolved to the point that you accept that you’re supposed to be this kind of infantilized miserable wife-assistant. It’s actually not funny. Fix it.

this is the big problem: WOMEN ALWAYS CHANGE post marriage — men generally DO NOT REPLY: TRUE!!! And the funniest part is that we men get married thinking that the woman WON’T change and they get married thinking how they WILL change the man!

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My plan is to live with a woman to see what it’s like. If she’s intolerable, then I’m outta there. REPLY: She won’t be intolerable until you’re married. Take it to the bank. Tattoo it to your arm. Link to this thread. Whatever, just don’t fucking forget it and if you choose to ignore this statement then remember that we told you so.

she changed after marriage. I guess once they have that claim on half your stuff they lose the incentive to hold back from grinding you down into a pulp of misery

In addition to scoping out the mom, there are 2 more VERY STRONG indicators of what type of person your gf is going to be. Her job: if she has a real job, works hard, is independent and makes money she’s more likely to be a better wife. One common theme I see in this thread is that most of these women sound like stay-at-home moms. What the fuck do you think’s going to happen if she just sits at home all day?

2: What does she watch? Does she watch shows that are challenging? exciting? movies and series as opposed to soap operas?

Bottom line: if she likes to watch soaps and talk shows she is learning how to be an attention whore and how to want and expect an unrealistic lifestyle. Take it to the bank.

One excellent approach — sexual moratorium. Let her know that you are putting her on probation, and that you are not going to have sex with her for at least six months. I know, I know, but really. Buy a lot of porn, spank, whatever you need to do, but when you take pussy off the table, a lot of her emotional leverage vanishes. You would be amazed at what you do/put up with/believe because you think that it might get you laid. Translation: if you’re a good boy, you’ll get some. Take that away, and you will begin to get your balls and dignity back, and it will amaze you how you were willing to degrade yourself for it. Once it sinks in that you don’t care whether or not you get laid, she realizes that she has a lot less power than she thought. And it scares the shit out of her. REPLY 1: About 85% of women will be relieved you stop begging for sex. Other than that, a dandy post. REPLY 2: They think they’ll be relieved. Actually, they’ll freak. Sex and power are very closely connected with women, and once they realize you’re not kidding, and you’re not playing, and they’re suddenly reduced to the status of Jeeves with tits, it will rock their world. Trust me.

LETTER TO HIS SON by LORD CHESTERFIELD LONDON, September 5, O.S. 1748. “As women are a considerable, or at least a pretty numerous part of company; and as their suffrages go a great way toward establishing a man’s character in the fashionable part of the world (which is of great importance to the fortune and figure he proposes to make in it), it is necessary to please them. I will therefore, upon this subject, let you into certain Arcana that will be very useful for you to know, but which you must, with the utmost care, conceal and never seem to know. Women, then, are only children of a larger growth; they have an entertaining tattle, and sometimes wit; but for solid reasoning, good sense, I never knew in my life one that had it, or who reasoned or acted consequentially for four-and-twenty hours together. Some little passion or humor always breaks upon their best resolutions. Their beauty neglected or controverted, their age increased, or their supposed understandings depreciated, instantly kindles their little passions, and overturns any system of consequential conduct, that in their most reasonable moments they might have been capable of forming. A man of sense only trifles with them, plays with them, humors and flatters them, as he does with a sprightly forward child; but he neither consults them about, nor trusts them with serious matters; though he often makes them believe that he does both; which is the thing in the world that they are proud of; for they love mightily to be dabbling in business (which by the way they always spoil); and being justly distrustful that men in general look upon them in a trifling light, they almost adore that man who talks more seriously to them, and who seems to consult and trust them; I say, who seems; for weak men really do, but wise ones only seem to do it.”

Women are essentially a depreciating asset. Like a car, they go down in value. And even worst, there is a 50% chance they will take your assets. Would you own a car that has a 50% chance of reducing your net worth 50%? Think of a car like a Lexus. Get a new one every three years. Or 36,000 miles. Which ever comes first.

This thread should be bookmarked forever. Dr. Phil and Oprah can choke on this shit. I divorced my wife 4 years ago. The best move I ever made in my life. I worked an engineering job and worked retail at night so she could stay at home with the kids. Did not matter, was not enough. I said enough, see you later.

Women will always test men’s boundaries. You kid yourself if you think you can avoid this by giving in – that just makes the behavior worse while causing her to lose respect for you. It’s what creates the nagging harpy that makes the whipped man’s life a hell. If you really have no energy or heart to stand up to a woman you should stay single. And it’s not a constant struggle. The man who stands up to his wife goes through short, but sharp conflicts without caving in order to get the respect from the woman that allows her to see him as her equal so that most of the time their time together is pleasant. The more consistent the man is in standing up to the woman the less she feels the need to test him. The whipped man on the other hand goes through a daily low-level hell of control, nagging and belittlement from the woman in order to avoid any larger conflicts. It’s a very poor trade off.

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[My wife’s great] REPLY 1: Talk to me in 5 more years. REPLY 2: Too fucking true. First couple of years of marriage were OK but then her inner bitch surfaced. Now it’s just one long monologue of pain. “Bob and Cindy just got a new minivan. Cindy thought they needed it because she wants to have three kids soon. When are we going to have kids? Do you like silver minivans? I think silver’s a great color for a family car. I want two girls and one boy. Do you think we’ll be able to afford private school or are you going to have to get a better job? Silver goes with all my black outfits. Have you fixed the door squeak yet?” and on and on and on.

[Quoting a guy’s wife] “Do you think we’ll be able to afford private school or are you going to have to get a better job?” REPLY: This illustrates the root of the problem perfectly. Women’s perceptions are all distorted. Note how this issue, to the woman, is a false dichotomy–can we afford private school or do you need a better job. This is the extent of their ability to reason. This causes all of the conflict.

an earlier poster said to look at the mother to see what the GF will end up being. That’s true enough, but look at the father as well. If he appears worn down and henpecked then take a good look at your own future.

Education, region, status, and income. The more educated a woman is the more feminist lies she will believe. Urban women have impossible expectations unless you are Donald Trump, and even he’s been divorced a few times. High status women need a man far above them in status. The more money a woman makes the more likely she is to divorce you. Marry an uneducated, poor, nice girl from the country.

It was when I started standing up to my wife rather that pussy-footing around and trying to appease her that things changed for the better. I don’t mean being abrasive or abusive, just not backing down from my honest judgment and only compromising when convinced, not when pressured.

It all comes down to evolution. Physically, women are smaller, weaker, slower and more vulnerable. If they’re saddled with children, without a male around to defend them, everyone dies. Therefore, they’re hard-wired to seek the strongest, most powerful male they can, and to seek out power, because their lives depended on it. Things haven’t changed — modern society is just a recent blip in evolutionary time. Women are hard-wired to understand pure power, because they have none. That’s why they’re constantly testing. That’s why they’re so compassionless. That’s why they’re not especially spiritual, or creative, relative to men. They’re too concerned about staying alive to dream or invent. That’s why they’re so shitty at working in teams with other women — they’re always seeking to develop their own power, and don’t really understand what a team is, or how it works. That’s why infidelity drives them so nuts — they need one male they can control, who will stay around and protect them. Women are created by nature to be Machiavellian, and materialistic — store up supplies for the drought/famine/winter — and this thread proves it. REPLY: There’s too much raw truth in this (although women are more than this too) for the PC crowd to admit to any of it.

I’ve found (at least with my wife) that anything I say to her in a logical way will be reprocessed thru her head to mean something other than what I’ve actually meant to say. I think that sometimes she does this on purpose, but I’m not sure.

So, here’s my story. Tough day at work. Arrive home to find wife allegedly had tough day at home with kids. She says she’s tired, and obviously she’s in a bad mood. I offer to do the dishes, and she refuses. So, as I do most nights, I put the two youngest to bed, then spend an hour playing chess with the older one, before putting her to bed. Right before this, my wife asked me if I was going to do the dishes. I said, “sure” and she went out to Blockbuster to get a DVD. At the end of the whole process of putting the kids in bed, I emerge, and find my wife finishing the dishes, angry. She begins to ream me out for not doing the dishes, and I say something like, look, I just finished putting the kids to bed. She then goes over and tries to put a DVD in the player. It jams — we’ve been having trouble with it lately — and she smashes her fist into it, breaking it, and the VCR, and begins ranting about how she’s sick of living in the house we live in, and so on. Basically, abusive. I respond by saying, literally, “Go abuse someone else, bitch.” She then responds with a string of four letter words, and stomps out. I leave the house, and go to the gym. When I return two hours later, she’s in bed and asleep, and my pillows are on the living room floor — sleep out here, tonight, buddy. That’s fine with me — I was planning to sleep in the living room anyway. We haven’t had sex in two months. We have three young children — a divorce would be a disaster. I own my own business, and after three years of ass-busting effort, with absolutely no support from her, it’s finally taking off. I’m past the point of wondering why this happened to me, but I’m kind of amazed. Someone has to have a shitty marriage. Someone has to marry the bitch. Someone has to be trapped. Look, it’s me! I mean, I’m a grown man, and I have someone in my house who repeatedly has these psychodramas, and now it’s part of my life, too. It’s a weird situation. On the one hand, you don’t want to be a beta and put up with this shit. On the other, you also don’t want three little kids to grow up in an atmosphere of constant warfare, fighting and so on. And she’s almost completely incapable of rationally discussing an issue, and working together to arrive at some kind of workable solution. It’s all demands, irrational rage, and pouting. If there were no children, I’d simply leave. But I can’t. So you begin to develop this really bizarre relationship where you emotionally isolate her, acting sort of semi-normal, but not letting her know anything about what you really feel or want because she’ll use it against you. I lie constantly. You know, as I type this, about fifteen feet away is a DVD player with the spindle, or whatever you call it, open and the shelf sticking out, jammed, broken and useless. The VCR slot where the tape goes is gaping open, too, broken and useless. And this kind of stuff is part of the fabric of my life, like my jeans, and my car keys. It’s like having someone spray-paint obscenities on the living-room wall, and just pretending it isn’t there. But you have to. I don’t know where this hate-filled child came from, but I can’t just make her stop. REPLY: The sad thing is that there are 10 of these stories for every one that has some crap about “my wife is my best friend blah blah blah”. Gentlemen, the above is the norm. It isn’t any better for your neighbor than it is for you. This is life for those of us men who marry.

Let’s put it this way. Brad Pitt was married to Jenifer Aniston. A big time celebrity who brought home tens of millions of dollars and even he couldn’t stand being married. Husband=Misery.

only boneheads marry REPLY: Speaking as someone married for 23 years, I AGREE WITH YOU! Stupidest fucking thing I ever did. I seem to remember thinking I was going to get lots of pussy from her or something equally inane.

The one-dimensional zero-experience assholes who say “suck it up and be an alpha” have no idea how fucked up women can get. the poster who said you never really let them in your head or heart any more is exactly right. of all the people i wanted to be able to relax and let my guard down around, it was her. now she has no clue what i am ever thinking. cunts can remember and produce during the next argument shit you told them from 15 years ago. That’s what they do all day – memorize what you’ve told them. guys do it baseball stats – cunts do it with your own words, readying them like ammo for the next round of torture.

Truthfully i don’t have the best marriage, and what i found that helped when i saw i was being taken advantage of was to communicate my feelings and if needed leave him for a day or two, so he can appreciate what i do. This does work for me, but unfortunately he goes back to being his old self. So i don’t have a long term solution. I think what we see after a marriage in ones SO is their character, which was masked over with the personality and looks that we fell in love with.

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i knew everyone in her family before i knew her. we dated for 4 years before getting married. she was smart, funny, kind, thoughtful, witty. THE DAY OF THE WEDDING, right after she got that fucking ring, she changed. I should’ve walked out but I had been telling myself for months that marriage is for keeps so at first you rationalize her fucked up cunt behavior, thinking ‘oh she’s geeked over the wedding.’ then the sex stops, then the bitching and nagging and pestering and arguing start. to hell with her. i will not divorce her now because there’s too much at stake. i thought i was marrying my very best friend, lover, confidante, and intellectual and emotional peer. she changed gears and never looked back, concentrating on spending my money and having party after stupid mind-numbingly boring party and buying the next house and redecorating and getting more jewelry and… anything but pal-ing around with me and fucking my brains out and laughing with me and walking hand-in-hand with me. in other words all the shit she SAID she would love to do ’til the day we died. fuck her. to her “credit”, she falls into the manipulative sex as a weapon cunt category i have observed that about 85% of all women do (as I am sure 85% of all men have some equally annoying habit in the eyes of women – like cheating on their cunt wives) my passive-aggressive payback is to selectively and very discreetly fuck good looking, intelligent, eager strong-libido women on the side. the sex is intensely gratifying, especially given it’s not her pussy i’m drilling. and yes i do close up emotionally around her since she will use any tiny thing i say for the next 3 years in future bitch sessions.

The last time my wife and I had sex (two weeks ago) during the humping phase she comments “when you get done, can you take a sock and clean the cobwebs off the ceiling?” REPLY: That is one of the most depressing things I have read. And I have read this entire thread.

Over 50% of marriages in this country end in divorce. Sometimes “taking responsibility” means getting the hell out of a fucked up situation. Regardless of that, it is a certainty that women will change after you get married. It is rarely for the better, which is why this thread exists in the first place.

I’m so sorry that you are going through a hard time in your life. I would suggest you sit down and talk to her and tell her how you feel. If that does not work i would suggest therapy. REPLY: laugh All grounds for another fierce fit of temper on her part…

This thread is highly enlightening in a way only possible through the recent existence of the public internet. Ten years ago, this conversation would never have existed. Thanks people. Thanks.

American women deserve every bad thing that has happened to them. REPLY: I married and Indian girl. Except that she’s educated, earns good coin, and is frugal, it’s all the same shit [otherwise].

but men change for the worse too. are you really such a martyr when you’re as fucked up as she is? REPLY: Please. You fucking cunt. All a guy wants is a girl that will take care of him, be a good mother to his kids and be his partner in life. You show me a little love, affection and appreciation and I’ll be your happy faithful little lap dog till death due us part. It’s that fucking simple.

Just finished reading this thread. Fuck I am depressed. My GF wants to get married and I am thinking, “No Way”. REPLY: Trade her in for a new girl. Let the new girl seduce you away from the old one, string her along for a few years, then move on to a new girl. Women are like coal rich mountains. Great for strip mining, but fucking ugly once you’re done with them.

I am really fucking stupid. I didn’t marry because I thought I’d get pussy all the time or anything like that. I married because we were “best friends” and we could talk about anything. Actually all we can talk about now is how I need to make more money to buy more shit I don’t want and nobody in the world needs. We need a new house. We need a new car. we need new furniture. Fuckin ay, I need a new life.

Whilst marriage sucks, having American kids with a dumb American wife is the absolute worst.

What the young hens of today don’t realize is that “popular culture” systematically poisons them against appreciating all the stuff that men do…

The problem is too much self-esteem. These days, if you have a cunt, you think the world owes you pretty much anything you want, whenever you want it. REPLY: Applies to women from European countries as well.

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