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OK, I’ve got problems with my wife, but the solution to this one is quite simple: DO IT ANYWAY. The reason you “can’t” is because you are afraid. Sorry, but it’s just that simple. Afraid of her, afraid of the consequences, afraid of the disapproval of yet another strong woman – I don’t know, but you have to get over it. Here’s what you do: Months ahead of your planed trip, you TELL her: “honey, I’m planning our yearly fishing trip for June 7-14. Any conflicts I should know about, because I’m making reservations today.” (using active language puts YOU in control. Getting the all clear from her gets you off the hook from any “surprises” that might pop up.) As the months go buy, she will no doubt bait you into arguments, give you guilt trips etc. The BEST tactic is to simply IGNORE her. DO NOT get drawn into a battle. If she’s in a pissy mood, and says nothing is wrong, well then act as if nothing is wrong, This is my #1 technique for staying in control. When you leave on the trip, LEAVE HER BEHIND. Put all her pissing whining and guilt tripping out of your head and have fun, It will be there when you get back, trust me. Guys the only way a woman can control you is if you LET her. Truth.

I’ve been married for ten years, and it sucks, a lot. I love my kids, but my wife is a control freak and a bitch, and her main mission in life seems to be to grind me down into some sort of Stepford Hub. As an example, I went to pick up my daughter at a birthday party over the weekend. For once, the people throwing the party didn’t have a lot of money, and it was a smallish, sort of cheap house, with a few kids in the back yard swimming in an above-ground pool, which was deep enough for them to swim, but not so deep they could get into any trouble. For once, the party wasn’t some frantic, ubermommy running around trying to outdo her friends. My daughter had spent two or three hours swimming in the pool, and had a blast. So when I got home, I told my wife that it was a great party, the best I’d ever seen, and she got all pissed because I apparently had implied that the party she was going to throw in a week for my daughter wouldn’t be as good, and wasn’t that insensitive of me, and so on. I wish I had not married her, except for the kids. The thing I learned is that power is a really important thing in marriage. Once they realize you have the power, women are far, far nicer to you. It’s fucked, but they are. As for those who are considering marriage, do it if you want kids, but remain in control, and don’t let her even think about trying to change you.

A statistical impossibility for ALL the men in this thread to have married the “wrong woman”. A simple truism is that you really can’t “tell” who the person is before you marry them. At that point the green felt on the blackjack table is redone and the new hand dealt is one that is unlikely to work in your favor. Thus, for a man to get married simply because he friends are getting married or that he wants to show his girlfriend that he truly loves her is a foolish man, indeed. The main reason why men get married in the first place is because he is with the first woman who excites him and gives him exclusive and consistent access to her overrated pussy. In a moment of irrational, unclear thought he decides that marriage is for him and then he enters into an agreement where the odds are stacked against him. In most cases of marriage, the sizzle quickly subsides and normalcy sets. Predictability is a killer for romance and a destroyer of sexual relations, and that’s what is likely to happen. Once the divorce papers are filed (twice as likely for the woman to file than the man in the U.S.) the man is likely to lose access to his children and will probably have to pay for child support and alimony. Thus, it is in a man’s best interest to put off marriage for as long as he can unless he absolutely wants to have children. Choosing the “wrong woman” is chick logic as it assumes that there is a soul mate or a male’s anima in biological form waiting out there to be “found”. Such a thing is unlikely and to presume it can happen is foolhardy.

Women will try to change you, it’s inevitable. What you can do at the minimum is look like you are alpha. Speak loudly, stomp, make noise, don’t take any shit. If she yells, yell back so she knows you won’t take that. At the same time, take care of responsibilities before she thinks about them. Only then will you have a ‘happy’ marriage.

Guys, you need to understand something. It’s very simple. Women only love you to the extent that they need you. Once they don’t need you any more, you are history. So when I married, I used a very simple strategy: I married a very nice woman who I knew for a fact could never build her own career. She wasn’t quite a “smart” as I wanted, but she was sweet and a great artist. 10 years later, she depends on me, I’m the sole breadwinner. She raises the kids. Very old-fashioned. Is is still difficult to be married? Hell yes. But she’s not divorcing me any time soon, and when I stand my ground in a fight, she listens. Because, frankly, she needs my earning ability. That is the secret of a successful marriage. And that is why, over the centuries, societies have discouraged women from having careers. Because women who are financially independent turn into total fucking jerks who fuck over not only men, but everybody in their way. Women are, by genetic design, totally and completely incapable of being trusted with independent power. They are selfish to the core, designed that way my Mother nature to help them cope with the stress of the insanely difficult job of raising children. Under certain conditions, that selfishness works fine for everybody…for example, when they are dependant on a man for breadwinning. Power corrupts, and in this is no different for women than for anybody else. Everybody needs something to keep them in line. Everybody, without some controls on them, turns into a jerk. So in our modern society, women have been relieved of essentially ALL social control. They can do any fucking thing they want to the men in their lives, with no consequences. They can even gun them down, claim it was self-protection, and get away free. It’s no surprise then that women are such heartless, horrible swinish louts in today’s society. They are allowed to let their selfishness, petulance, sexual power, and self-absorption run WILD and you bet, this turns them into awful human beings. So again, Men, what can you do? Whatever you do, avoid a woman who is “perfect”. Who makes a lot of money. Who is extremely beautiful. Who is a fuck machine. All of those things will make her seem desirable to you, but strangely, those are exactly the things that will make her a lousy wife. You aren’t marrying a woman because she is the BEST. You are marrying her because she will be a good wife…to YOU. Think about that.

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What I would do, if I could do it differently, is get a woman who is dependent on me. Men understand the responsibilities of power, women do not, as you said. Get a woman who listens to you and obeys you and you’ll do what nature intended – have a happy loving family.

When I first got married, and when I was younger, I spent a huge amount of time and effort trying to do the right thing. I would listen patiently to some woman’s problems, I would try to help my wife talk about her issues when she was pissed off at me, etc. It didn’t work. Donald Rumsfeld said once that “Weakness is provocative” and he was absolutely right, at least with respect to women. Women understand and respect power, when they see it, and will then allow themselves to treat you reasonably. If they see a lack of it, they will abuse you. Men aren’t like that, typically. If a man sees another man who’s weak, he’ll ignore him, but he won’t abuse him. Women will. You have to be very careful about paying serious attentions to the accusations your wife makes, putting up with bullshit, etc. Women are incredibly skilled at allowing their own emotional state to be the only thing that matters in making a decision — you know, “I cheated on you because I wasn’t getting my needs met, which makes it okay.” They’re a lot less likely to do this if they know you can leave them, and bankrupt them. Woman are also not too rational — they’re not big on thinking about consequences. Men are.

Best advice I ever got, from Stanley Bing actually. When you have a fight with your wife…FIGHT HARD. DON’T back down. You are doing her, yourself, and the world a disservice if you do.

[In response to a 36-year-old man considering marriage]: Never get married. You’re finally at the age where life starts getting really good: You can date a girl half your age and it’s LEGAL!!! From my experience, the 10-15 years age difference in a “more sophisticated” woman hasn’t made any difference in anything. Women are now perpetual teenagers who never grow up, so you may as well get the body that matches the mind.

Would you want to live with a retard for ten years? Because that’s what a kid is, a really stupid person who doesn’t know shit.

That’s just luck. A lot of men do everything “right” and when they marry are sure their SO is rational, loving, into sex, etc. Whether the woman stays like that is down to luck – all a man’s judgment and actions do is maximize his chances of success. A lot of women put on their best face before marriage at the subconscious level and stop making the effort afterward. They don’t even do this consciously, so they seem to actually BE better women beforehand, rather than putting on an act. It can be almost impossible to see this kind of thing coming. If a woman, for whatever reason, changes or decides she is no longer satisfied in marriage, the man is screwed. He doesn’t need to actually do anything wrong.

So you call their bluff. You’d think going without sex for a while was some kind of intolerable torture. Pop in a porn. Rub one out. You’ll survive and you’ll have cut off that source of power she has over you. Freedom always comes at a price – pay it willingly. The irony is that if withholding sex gets her what she wants with you, she’ll only do it more often. Make it irrelevant to her getting what she wants and she’ll stop using that tactic. You’re just creating a rod for your own back with your short-sightedness. Think with the big head for a change.

Marriage for a man these days is handing a woman an axe, then putting his head on a chopping block in the trust that she won’t cut it off. She doesn’t do the same for him.

Women have no idea what they want, they need to be told and controlled. If you are too nice or become apathetic, you are fucking doomed. Either way, if you get married, you are doomed. Women are cunts, and they are absolute masters of mental torture and abuse. If we simply hired bitches to interrogate and torture all captured terrorists, the war on terror would be over in less than a year.

this part bears repeating a million times. The ideal marriage promoted by educated women, the partnership of ‘equals’, is a recipe for misery. As a man you must have the upper hand. Marry an equal and your sex drive will give her the edge since she can do without sex longer than you can. A dependent woman is a good woman.

Just wanted to reiterate how, after my recent divorce (check a few pages back), fucking inspired I am by all you tards. I never thought I’d say it, but this is really a great forum for shit like this. My advice for all you beaten down, miserable guys stuck with some fucking twinkie-eatin’, american-idol/extreme-makeover-watchin’, annoying bitchy cunt is GET THE FUCK OUT. Take your life back. I’m not tooting my own shit, but since I’ve gotten divorced, I’ve gotten into 2 MBA schools (haven’t picked yet), played in 7 beach volleyball tournaments, and about 3 months into a fucking marathon training program. Yes, I miss the easy, consistent quality sex. No, I do not miss just about anything else. This is YOUR life tards. One shot, no “do-overs,” are you REALLY gonna spend it with some unhappy fucking cunt? FUCK THAT. Reclaim it. Do all the shit you always wanted to do. The pussy will COME to you. Make your move.

I’m tired of fucking by a script. We’re allowed to fuck in certain positions that are to come in a certain order. There are to be no deviations from the script. Ever. (It goes without saying there are no blowjobs in the script.) It bores me to tears. I’d way rather jack off, which is pretty much what I do these days. If I jack off I can at least fantasize about some fucking variety.

I showed the thread page to a friend at work, and he laughed his ass off. Number of postings on a thread about Rove: 12. Number of postings on a thread about Iraq: 22 Number of postings on a thread about movies: 7 Number of postings on a thread asking how many married guys hate their life: 500. [Note: I believe it eventually went up to about 7,000!]

No sex is worth putting up with a fucking cunt who uses it to grind you down. Reply: Clarify what you mean by “grind you down.” Reply to reply: It’s a long term grind. Putdowns. Undermining your every move. Taking cheap little shots to humiliate you in front of your friends.

I just wanted to re-iterate something. It’s not that women love you because they need you. Their love IS their need. They are the same thing. That is all their love is. They invented the word “love” and replaced it over the more honest fact of their need, and surrounded it with all this fictional bullshit, a hundred years back, to better trick men like you into committing to things without knowing what you’re getting into. They don’t love “you” at all. They love the image of you, what you provide to them that they want or need, what fantasy number you can help them check off of their internal list. If you look at a women’s life…her series of lovers that she takes…the high-school boyfriend, the college professor fling, the Harley-driving boyfriend, the rich stock broker boyfriend, the solid child-raising husband… All of the guys she “loves” are just a set of internal fantasy men that she has in her head from adolescence. When she finds a convenient guy who happens to fit a fantasy, she acquires him, experiences him, fucks him, whatever, so she can check off one row of her mental list of fantasy conquest boyfriends. In most cases if you ask her what the guy was actually LIKE, what he thought, what he cared about, etc, it’s unlikely she even noticed. His actual thoughts were irrelevant. His wants and needs, his dreams, weren’t something she was even conscious of, except to the extent that his dreams were part of her fantasy of him. He wasn’t really a human being at all, in her view. Many women really view men as horses, and they are the riders. High-strung, maybe beautiful horses yes, but in the end, just animals to help them achieve their goals.

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Semonides of Amorgos, The Types of Women, c. 550 B.C.: Zeus made this supreme evil—woman: even though she seem to be a blessing, when a man has wedded one she becomes a plague.

A woman is like a vampire. She will suck the joy out of your and leave you a shriveled husk of a man. But she must; that’s how she survives. Getting married is like agreeing to live in a vampire’s coffin for all eternity.

I was driving back from a meeting this morning, thinking about my wife, and I really wanted to go home, and simply beat the living shit out of her. I have been supporting everyone for years, working my ass off, and my wife has not done one single fucking thing to make my life easier, to encourage me, or to help me with anything that’s bugging me. She’s on the PTA, the board of her preschool, she teaches art at the elementary school, is involved in a book club, and on and on and on. Her calendar is ridiculous. But I am some kind of fucking afterthought. I’m the engine that powers this entire thing, and I haven’t gotten laid in months. She takes care of the children during the week, fine. But we have a housecleaner, because actually cleaning the fucking house is beneath her. We take shirts to the dry cleaner, because she couldn’t possibly iron them. Clean laundry is in piles in the garage, because she can’t be expected to fold it. On weekends, I’m apparently her assistant. I can’t wait for Sunday night to come, when I can get out and head back to the office. And every day there’s some new example of truly shitty behavior — a bad attitude for any human. For example, last night she was at her fucking PTA meeting, which ran from 7 until 11. I went to bed, and had just turned the light out when she shows up at the front door, and starts ringing the fucking doorbell. She didn’t have her keys. She then informed me that she never does. I pointed out that having keys to your own house might be a smart thing to do. And she acts like that’s some kind of major insult, and then launches into a description of what happened at this meeting. I stopped her, and said something like “You know, I was in bed and almost asleep, and you got me up.” It didn’t even occur to her that a) I would actually mind being jerked out of bed by the doorbell; b) I wasn’t interested in a blow-by-blow at that moment. Finally, after years of this, the truth is starting to sink in, and I’m devolving into this serious, angry person to be around. All the normal, considerate stuff I used to do I don’t. I don’t talk to her unless I have to, and not any longer than necessary. She catches me looking at her sometimes, and the expression she sees on my face frightens her, I think. Somewhere along in here, she’s going to ask me if something’s wrong, and I’m going to start screaming at her. I’ve tried marriage counseling. I’ve tried listening, and giving, and being nice. Now, I’m going to try fear and intimidation.

She refuses to work. She always has some excuse. She’s depressed, she won’t make a lot of money, I make enough for both of us, she takes care of the house (not really). It’s one fucking thing after another. So I just save myself the trouble and don’t bring it up anymore. Fucking bloodsucking cunt.

My life sucks but my wife certainly doesn’t.

11 years. My wife is currently out a Wal Mart buying worthless plastic shit. She’s 70 lbs overweight. If it wasn’t for the kids I would kick her fat ass to the curb. REPLY: Do it now you stupid fuck! Save yourself! I have been married 38 years, two years ago I checked with an attorney and if we split up you know what she gets? She gets EVERYTHING. Know what I get? I get NOTHING. Yeah, you will have child support but you will also be bying the 27 years I fucking squandered. DO IT! Pleasssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee do it! Save yourself and you will thank me later.

I also agree the best way to reduce the bullshit from a wife is to stand up to her the first time and every time. Love her or not, it’s important to demonstrate that you could live without her.

I used to have friends. Till I got married. I used to have fun. Till I got married. I used to have money. Till I got married. Someone get me a gun. I’d rather be buried.

The biggest problem I see is men getting married “because she wants to”. That is automatic disaster, no exceptions. Only get married if it’s YOUR DECISION and if you’re over 25 years old and it’s NOT just because she’s good in bed (that’s a terrible reason)

I make it work, but only within the context of the shittiest existence I can imagine in terms of what I expected in marriage versus what I got. What I expected: laughter, doing everything together (from boring bill-paying to swing dance lessons to movies on the couch to Sunday morning papers to buying tampons to medical problems when they arose to whispered sweet nothings to deciding on a new sink for the kitchen to…), great sex for life, growing old together, dying while looking into her eyes. What I got: a woman who after marriage instantly turned into a shrewish whining nagging sexless frigid materialistic petty manipulative cunt who only cares about how much money I make, constantly upgrading her fucking wedding diamond (it’s now 3.67 carats), and spending my cash on clothes from N-M, goddamn fucking window treatments from some specialty shop, and endless fucking shit from Pottery Barn that has nothing to do with my life or our life. Biggest mistake? Should’ve spent more than 4 years getting to know her. Should’ve not let the great sex cloud my mind. Goddamn it all to hell.

To those who aren’t married, one key thing: Take a good look at the girl’s mother. She will, invariably, become just like her mother. You’ll want to believe this isn’t the case for your sweet little thing. You’re wrong. Completely wrong. Bank on it.

What a bunch of whiny pussy whipped shitheads. I’ve been married for over 25 years and I have full control of everything. How did I do it? Easy, just adopt an attitude of, “hey, if you don’t like it, there’s the fucking door”. This attitude has served my marriage well. My wife thinks I’m one step away from walking out, and she treats me like a king. Of course I treat her with respect and don’t rub it in her face, but she knows that in the end, I run the show. We get along just fine. Get a grip you fucking pussies.

Look. I’ve spent a couple of years studying this and thinking about it. I am not going to spend my life like this. Here are a few things I’ve learned: 1) Women respect power. They will never admit it or even know it, but that’s what they respond to. Period. 2) Women don’t know what they want. 3) A lot of women aren’t actually very smart. 4) We are living in a culture that systematically degrades men. If there was a female Homer Simpson character, there’d be a civil war. 5) Read the following books: “No More Mr. Nice Guy” “What Men Know and Women Don’t” “The Manipulated Man” The whole society has, at this point, devolved to the point that you accept that you’re supposed to be this kind of infantilized miserable wife-assistant. It’s actually not funny. Fix it.

this is the big problem: WOMEN ALWAYS CHANGE post marriage — men generally DO NOT REPLY: TRUE!!! And the funniest part is that we men get married thinking that the woman WON’T change and they get married thinking how they WILL change the man!

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My plan is to live with a woman to see what it’s like. If she’s intolerable, then I’m outta there. REPLY: She won’t be intolerable until you’re married. Take it to the bank. Tattoo it to your arm. Link to this thread. Whatever, just don’t fucking forget it and if you choose to ignore this statement then remember that we told you so.

she changed after marriage. I guess once they have that claim on half your stuff they lose the incentive to hold back from grinding you down into a pulp of misery

In addition to scoping out the mom, there are 2 more VERY STRONG indicators of what type of person your gf is going to be. Her job: if she has a real job, works hard, is independent and makes money she’s more likely to be a better wife. One common theme I see in this thread is that most of these women sound like stay-at-home moms. What the fuck do you think’s going to happen if she just sits at home all day?

2: What does she watch? Does she watch shows that are challenging? exciting? movies and series as opposed to soap operas?

Bottom line: if she likes to watch soaps and talk shows she is learning how to be an attention whore and how to want and expect an unrealistic lifestyle. Take it to the bank.

One excellent approach — sexual moratorium. Let her know that you are putting her on probation, and that you are not going to have sex with her for at least six months. I know, I know, but really. Buy a lot of porn, spank, whatever you need to do, but when you take pussy off the table, a lot of her emotional leverage vanishes. You would be amazed at what you do/put up with/believe because you think that it might get you laid. Translation: if you’re a good boy, you’ll get some. Take that away, and you will begin to get your balls and dignity back, and it will amaze you how you were willing to degrade yourself for it. Once it sinks in that you don’t care whether or not you get laid, she realizes that she has a lot less power than she thought. And it scares the shit out of her. REPLY 1: About 85% of women will be relieved you stop begging for sex. Other than that, a dandy post. REPLY 2: They think they’ll be relieved. Actually, they’ll freak. Sex and power are very closely connected with women, and once they realize you’re not kidding, and you’re not playing, and they’re suddenly reduced to the status of Jeeves with tits, it will rock their world. Trust me.

LETTER TO HIS SON by LORD CHESTERFIELD LONDON, September 5, O.S. 1748. “As women are a considerable, or at least a pretty numerous part of company; and as their suffrages go a great way toward establishing a man’s character in the fashionable part of the world (which is of great importance to the fortune and figure he proposes to make in it), it is necessary to please them. I will therefore, upon this subject, let you into certain Arcana that will be very useful for you to know, but which you must, with the utmost care, conceal and never seem to know. Women, then, are only children of a larger growth; they have an entertaining tattle, and sometimes wit; but for solid reasoning, good sense, I never knew in my life one that had it, or who reasoned or acted consequentially for four-and-twenty hours together. Some little passion or humor always breaks upon their best resolutions. Their beauty neglected or controverted, their age increased, or their supposed understandings depreciated, instantly kindles their little passions, and overturns any system of consequential conduct, that in their most reasonable moments they might have been capable of forming. A man of sense only trifles with them, plays with them, humors and flatters them, as he does with a sprightly forward child; but he neither consults them about, nor trusts them with serious matters; though he often makes them believe that he does both; which is the thing in the world that they are proud of; for they love mightily to be dabbling in business (which by the way they always spoil); and being justly distrustful that men in general look upon them in a trifling light, they almost adore that man who talks more seriously to them, and who seems to consult and trust them; I say, who seems; for weak men really do, but wise ones only seem to do it.”

Women are essentially a depreciating asset. Like a car, they go down in value. And even worst, there is a 50% chance they will take your assets. Would you own a car that has a 50% chance of reducing your net worth 50%? Think of a car like a Lexus. Get a new one every three years. Or 36,000 miles. Which ever comes first.

This thread should be bookmarked forever. Dr. Phil and Oprah can choke on this shit. I divorced my wife 4 years ago. The best move I ever made in my life. I worked an engineering job and worked retail at night so she could stay at home with the kids. Did not matter, was not enough. I said enough, see you later.

Women will always test men’s boundaries. You kid yourself if you think you can avoid this by giving in – that just makes the behavior worse while causing her to lose respect for you. It’s what creates the nagging harpy that makes the whipped man’s life a hell. If you really have no energy or heart to stand up to a woman you should stay single. And it’s not a constant struggle. The man who stands up to his wife goes through short, but sharp conflicts without caving in order to get the respect from the woman that allows her to see him as her equal so that most of the time their time together is pleasant. The more consistent the man is in standing up to the woman the less she feels the need to test him. The whipped man on the other hand goes through a daily low-level hell of control, nagging and belittlement from the woman in order to avoid any larger conflicts. It’s a very poor trade off.

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