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WHAT IS ALL THIS OBSESSION (TRIGGERED) (self.MGTOW)

huckleberryferry が 投稿

With:

  • Porn.

  • Masturbation.

  • Escorts/ prostitutes.

  • Sex robots.

  • Fleshlight.

  • Pump and dump?

When will men for once learn self-control and shun hedonism?

When will they learn to know that the whole "getting-laid" and "releasing sexual stress" cultural narrative by MSM are a part of the grand scheme to manipulate the masses and make men controllable by the greedy, agenda-driven elites?

When will they learn that by always desperately seeking to have a sexual release you consciously, subconsciously or consciously worship women? (Think of what you do when you masturbate or watch porn, fantasize right? About what? Animals? Stones? NO! WOMEN! Is that not some form of female worship? Go figure.)

When will men STOP wasting their hard-earned money on women (both casual and prostitutes) who don't deserve it?

When will they learn that there is truth in the whole semen retention practice and by doing it they accumulate enough energy to accomplish powerful goals?

When will men stop having these bizarre and unnatural fantasies and obsessions they have for manmade designs (sex robots) to satisfy their sexual urges?

Sorry for this rant but this is getting beyond disgust on this sub. You can't claim to be going your OWN way when you still desperately seek something from what you're going away from. Stop being sexually desperate and build enough willpower to do sexual self-restraint. Stop believing this whole societal lie and BS that "you need to constantly get laid because it's healthy and if you don't, then something is wrong with you/ will happen to your health."

Oh! and of course this message is not for everyone but those whom they know it is for. Ignore it if it triggers you.

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[–]not88 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So much truth. The elite and society want men to expell their seed as much as possible because they know it makes them weak mentally and physically and even more easy to control.

[–]huckleberryferry[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad someone has enough wisdom here to see through the fog.

[–]weaklion 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

When will men for once learn self-control and shun hedonism?

Will folks like you ever learn to not try and control and shame others?

Note: I can see the value of asceticism, I can see the value of minimalism.

But that stupid preaching is exactly what we've walked away from.

[–]MGTOW_Monger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pontificating like society does.

[–]not88 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

exactly what we've

I'm not a part of your group, pal. Don't include me.

[–]weaklion 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not a part of your group, pal. Don't include me.

Well then, go on to new adventures in the digital realm! :)

[–]huckleberryferry[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude, if you read through my post well you'd notice I wasn't shaming anyone or trying to control others, neither was I advocating for any "standard" of living.

[–]slappydapussy 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Porn? I've been fappin to the NewEgg specials. I just bought two Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB for my rigs. It's a C9 with 9-11-11-31 timing! Check that shit out man. Have you seen this RAM?!

But yes, society wants us to worship women.

[–]UglyPrince2000 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

32GB

Unzips pants

[–]301niko 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I almost got fucked by Newegg yesterday. I was thinking whether to buy that i7 7700 but it's the 3.8ghz version. I got the 4.2 fortunately.

I've got a question thought. I just got a ssd disk and I've been thinking whether I need to buy some additional part to mount it or will my tower have such part. I'm a total computer newb.

[–]phreshstart 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a total computer newb.

Hard disk drives or HDD for short have actual disks in them. Solid state drives or SSD for short don't have disks in them... so the term ssd disk screams newbie at me. You don't need the latest processor out there, what you have is probably just fine. Keep your hard earned money and wait a few years and then buy what you need. You'll have time in the mean time to learn more about computers too.

[–]not88 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depending on the SSD it either comes with a mount, or you can purchase a cheap part that allows you to mount the SSD to a standard 5.25" slot. Depending on you case, it could also have specific spots designed for an SSD.

I was thinking whether to buy that i7 7700 but it's the 3.8ghz version. I got the 4.2 fortunately.

Same thing pretty much only the one you got is overclockcable so be sure to overclock it if you can and know how. If you weren't planning on overclocking, the regular 7700 is all you need and saves you a little bit.

[–]weaklion 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just got a ssd disk and I've been thinking whether I need to buy some additional part to mount it or will my tower have such part. I'm a total computer newb.

SSDs come in the same form factors (2.5", 3.5") as normal HDDs. If you needed a mounting bracket for a same-sized HDD, it will also work for an SSD.

Electrically, almost all consumer HDDs/SSDs are SATA since a while and you likely have everything you need.

[–]Smoothtank 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Don't know, man. There's a lot of spiteful men around who miss the point and insist they will find other ways to indulge their desire for women.

But whatever, it's their life. I just typically avoid those posts and comments as they do nothing to grow my perspective.

[–]huckleberryferry[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I understand, though it's becoming something of a fetish list here. I find it so pathetic about so-called MGTOWs here.

[–]weaklion 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

But why not let them be? Some have a higher, some a lower sex drive, and some want to try no-fap and some want to try escorts, and others a fleshlight.

All fine by me. I can just skip those posts when I am not interested.

[–]MuscleCarz 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But why not let them be?

Because they can't. It's their monstrous ego-driven need to police the behavior of others. Think about it. Does a man of self-worth and self-esteem feel the compulsion to police the sexual leanings of other men? Of course not. This is the behavior of a deep underlying base of insecurity and lack of depth of character seen in SJW's, not MGTOW.

[–]huckleberryferry[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So by your line of "logic" I guess law makers of our society lack self-worth and self-esteem right? Or they have is "their monstrous ego-driven need to police the behavior of others", right? Tell me dude: is there something wrong with advising someone about something they are doing to themselves which you think is bad for them? Your "logic" again here mean that therapy is wrong; providing addiction detox is wrong; helping cocaine addicts is wrong...the list is endless...and oh...telling other men to go their own way is wrong.

[–]MGTOW_Monger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To each his own pontificate mgtow bro.

[–]Club_dean69 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who cares

[–]geocitiesuser 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (7子コメント)

FYI

RULES:

We will allow no:

  • Bullshit
  • Feminist
  • SJW/LGBT Proselytizing
  • White Knighting
  • Hug Boxing
  • Concern Trolling
  • Tone Policing

Just calling you out, because I know I always get called out when I do it. The message might be okay, but you're basically telling men to repress their sex drive. That's not something we all want to do.

[–]phreshstart 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

repress

such a feminist word

[–]weaklion 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Have a better one?

[–]phreshstart 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

take a pick: hold back/curb/inhibit/restrain/control/keep in check

[–]weaklion 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But if others do or try to tell you what to do, isn't repress most accurate?

There's a difference between 'hey, you might wanna try no-fap' and 'who faps is a pu55y f4gg0t l0sa!'.

[–]phreshstart 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're probably right, I was merely offering alternatives. I'm not sure if there's a better one...

[–]not88 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because his post suggest doing something doesn't mean you are forced to do it. This post is in no way tone policing or concern trolling. Sounds like youve been triggered by your addiction.

[–]huckleberryferry[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What part of "this message is not for everyone" do you lack understanding of. I'm neither of all the groups of people you've listed. Also, how will you feel if I say I'm offended for your telling me to always "release my semen"? Does it sit well with you? I'm not telling anyone to damage their sex drive just suggesting my perspectives on another way to deal with it, not damage it.

[–]Zombocom1911 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

why try to tell other people how to live their lives? your truth might not by their truth. not everyone has the same testosterone levels in their blood, for example

[–]huckleberryferry[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not trying to tell anyone how to live their life; just sharing my perspective of things. Besides, aren't we MGTOWs who should be helping one another with insights and perspectives?

[–]ArthurVonL 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know what you wrote is true, I struggle to focus on other things, our over sexualized society has turned men into horny dogs. I do not blame them, their reward circuit has just been sabotaged. Most of us get hook young on porn, masturbation and sexual fantasies, it is difficult to change, but it can be done. For all the naysayers: try to avoid orgasm for 90 days, then come back here to type what you experienced. I tell you it is a difficult challenge.

[–]huckleberryferry[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know bro, it's a hard challenge. Mastering the will to control your sexual desires is hard but it still can be done—and the bodily, mental, spiritual and general health of being is amazingly superior to the petty pleasure you feel after masturbation.

It surprises me that even fellow so-called MGTOW brothers aren't seeing through the lies society has fed them concerning celibacy: that it's harmful to your health; that something is wrong with you when you practise it; etc. Society has been hyper sexualized, and I'm both worried and surprised no one is seeing this; the past world wasn't like this.

[–]DThrillard 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay, you enjoy your prostate cancer. I'm gonna go jerk off and take a nap.

[–]Thinkpadoutlaw 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (14子コメント)

You are on to something. Something that may not belong in this sub. Something that may need it's own sub.

[–]droppincliffs 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And that sub is..... wait for it...

/r/nofap!!!

[–]MGTOW_Monger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol and yet so clearly true

[–]Spungo1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can't tell if this is a joke.

[–]MuscleCarz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sadly, I fear it isn't meant to be...until you read it, then, well, it comes off like a joke, in terms of it's complete lack of substance...

[–]Spungo1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he was going to blame Jews for something, but he decided not to because that would push it over the line and make it an obvious parody.

[–]LostInTheHead 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are men going our own way by forging our own identities and paths to self-defined success; cutting through collective ideas of what a man is.

If someone find happiness by having sex, watching porn or masturbating all day everyday, who am I to judge?

[–]Fdreal 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll do what I want, thanks

[–]MuscleCarz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When will they learn that by always desperately seeking to have a sexual release you consciously, subconsciously or consciously worship women? (Think of what you do when you masturbate or watch porn, fantasize right? About what? Animals? Stones? NO! WOMEN! Is that not some form of female worship? Go figure.)

Always desperately seeking to have a sexual release you consciously...

LOL! Noticed how they use "ALWAYS,""DESPERATELY," "bizarre," "unnatural," "obsessions" for effect...No studies, facts or other evidence to support their "NO FAP!" argument, just an embarrassing, hyperbole-laden rant reminiscent of an angry child that can't have it's way.

Ignore it if it triggers you.

LOL. Triggered? How could any man of maturity and logic be triggered by this crappily thrown together rant? It's pretty obvious who's "triggered" here.

I challenge ANYONE of rational mind to read the OP's post a few times and fail to see the underlying frustration, projection and monstrous ego-driven dysfunctional need to police the behaviors of others...which, IMO, is more indicative of SJW than MGTOW.

[–]MGTOW_Monger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great response.

[–]huckleberryferry[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You refute nothing, but just resort to the use of ad hominem (feminist syndrome) as a way out, yet you desperately, albeit, covertly (and perhaps, unwittingly), project your inherent superiority complex by way of assuming you're more rational than anyone else who read through this. BTW, I didn't write this out of "frustration" and "monstrous ego-driven dysfunctional need", but out of concern, besides I don't think you were rational enough to understand my last paragraph of the post just so save muscular energy you used to type your germane comment.

[–]JohnWicksPencil 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck off with your faux outrage. No man should deny his sexuality, it is a part of his being. Women and society shame men for being sexual beings all the time until most men are so brow beaten they long ago gave up. Is that what you want to bring to this sub? MGTOW is about doing what YOU want? Not telling others what to do, which is for women.

[–]Padomaic 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (16子コメント)

When will taoists learn that the retention of semen is only a meme?

When will non-human primates stop masturbating?

Why is masturbation an evolutionarily advantageous action, purging the system of old sperm cells?

[–]huckleberryferry[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Semen retention is NOT a meme. Have you even tried it for just a month? BTW I'm not a Taoist.

Seriously dude, you use masturbation of "non-human primates" to justify that pathetic act of masturbation. Something that sounds: "some animals masturbate so I should because it's healthy; even animals do it, so why not humans?" Have you personally witnessed "non-human primates" masturbating before? Or you read it? You have a lot of awakening processes to go through.

Masturbation being an "evolutionarily advantageous action"? Is semen harmful to/ in the body? Once again: you have a lot of awakening processes to go through.

[–]Padomaic 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (10子コメント)

It is merely a meme. A goof, a gag. It is not real, huckleberry.

It is not real.

If you stop mastubating you start having wet dreams.

In the Buddhist suttas, the Buddha had to explicitly mention that it was not an offense for an a Arahant, a fully enlightened monk, to ejaculate while dreaming, because it was happening so often to his monks.

We should all stop masturbating force a plug into our urethras while we sleep. Surely we'd wake up enlightened in a month. What an awakening process we'd go through then. It is not real.

Masturbating is not pathetic, any more than eating, shitting, or urinating is pathetic.

You have a lot of deprogramming processes to go through. You and /u/not88 have swallowed the pill of dualism.

[–]weaklion 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can even see that there might be value in all kinds of things, and I can imagine there is value in moderation regarding porn and so forth (my drive is low enough now that I don't feel like I need to moderate).

But if you wanna reach people in this regard, you don't go and attempt this idiotic shame-ridden preaching. That's just exactly like the feminists - and if done in the way as it can be witnessed in some of the other posts here, it is likely also with ulterior motive (get more resources for the cuck-plantation).

[–]ijpqenbfp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

In the Buddhist suttas, the Buddha had to explicitly mention that it was not an offense for an a Arahant, a fully enlightened monk, to ejaculate while dreaming, because it was happening so often to his monks.

But those fully enlightened monks apparently didn't masturbate.

OP's not advocating to not have wet dreams, OP's advocating to not masturbate.

[–]Padomaic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True, but is semen retained if it's released through wet dreams? That was the counterargument I was making there.

[–]not88 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you stop mastubating you start having wet dreams.

Only if you are repressing yourself. If you are in control and transmuting properly and not thinking about sex this will never happen. You fail to understand that this isn't just a purely physical thing. If you are looking at porn all day and then try not to jerk off you are going to have a fucked up time. That's not the point.

You and /u/not88 have swallowed the pill of dualism.

Says the simp regularly getting cucked by his computer monitor...

[–]Padomaic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What defines transmutation? For a while, I committed to only masturbating to pictures I'd drawn myself. My drawing ability skyrocketed in months.

Is this not harnessing sexual energy, using it to cultivate one's power?

What defines power?

[–]not88 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Read this if you are interested in learning more about about the truth of this topic and the practices that go with it to achieve success: http://www.dlshq.org/download/brahmacharya.htm

[–]huckleberryferry[S] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

My beliefs do not exactly align with Buddhist teachings and thoughts though I believe there are elements of truths in their teachings such as that concerning semen retention. I'm a Christian.

Wet dream, while I may not have much knowledge about it, is to my little knowledge: natural, if not something else. And anything natural about the body is not wrong that's why it's natural, example as you cite as eating, urinating and whatever.

Masturbation is a PATHETIC, unnatural act because:

  • It cannot produce children (stop thinking, "but through that one can donate semen for reproduction" because that is certainly also a perverse, unnatural way of reproduction, and you should know it).

  • One wastes so much energy and time trying to stimulate themselves to some pathetic videos, photos and retained images of previously seen girls.

  • One would want to do it in secrecy and not to the public's attention (stop thinking here also that "but in porn..."—that is perverse as well.)

  • You masturbate to the image of a girl you'd want to sleep with or have a crush on but can't communicate your feelings to.

  • One does it while looking at other people having sex with others. ( I don't know what is more pathetic than this; in fact basically cuckoldry, meanwhile there seems to be so much hate against in this sub.)

Refute any of my points.

[–]Padomaic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Refutations:

It cannot produce children (stop thinking, "but through that one can donate semen for reproduction" because that is certainly also a perverse, unnatural way of reproduction, and you should know it).

You say it is pathetic and unnatural because it cannot produce children. But many actions, most actions cannot produce children. Are these acts pathetic? This is just a complete non sequiter.

Is raising your left arm pathetic and unnatural because it cannot produce children? Or, you could say it doesn't produce children, but it CAN produce children, since raising your left arm might be part of a causal chain that eventually results in a child. Even if you were to take that absurd route to avoid withdrawing your initial point, masturbation can also be part of a causal chain that can lead to children.

Whether it is even a good thing to have children at all is another point entirely.

One wastes so much energy and time trying to stimulate themselves to some pathetic videos, photos and retained images of previously seen girls.

It can definitely be a waste of time and energy, but it isn't always that. It's possible to masturbate quickly, and it can be energy expended towards a positive result: relaxation, and a temporary freedom from lust.

One would want to do it in secrecy and not to the public's attention (stop thinking here also that "but in porn..."—that is perverse as well.)

Is everything done in secrecy pathetic or unnatural? I think that only things done in secrecy that are a transgression against another person are pathetic, such as gossiping, but even that is certainly natural. Since you're a Christian, you must know that Jesus said to pray in secret, away from the eyes of the public. Is prayer a pathetic and unnatural action? According to your argument, it must be.

You masturbate to the image of a girl you'd want to sleep with or have a crush on but can't communicate your feelings to.

No I don't. I've never masturbated to anyone I've known in person.

One does it while looking at other people having sex with others. ( I don't know what is more pathetic than this; in fact basically cuckoldry, meanwhile there seems to be so much hate against in this sub.)

In order for it to be cuckoldry, I'd have to be in a relationship with that woman. Because I do not, it is not cuckoldry.

[–]Fdreal 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Using the "natural" fallacy to shame men into certain behaviors is pathetic and unnatural.

[–]not88 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Humans have the unique ability among all other species to be able to raise their consciousness over their animal selves/instincts....if they so choose.

[–]huckleberryferry[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Truth.

It's just disgusting and appalling how rational and conscious men (not to talk of being far superior to animals even) would morally sink so low as to justify their despicable acts with the acts of animals. "Even some animals masturbate"; "even some animals are gay"; etc. Come on! Even if these scientific "facts" are true, WE ARE NOT ANIMALS FOR GOODNESS SAKE! I'm beginning to suspect the authenticity of these scientific "facts", and having doubts about everything social and cultural—in fact, I'm beginning to think societal lies and falsehoods are far grander than we MGTOWs narrowly make it to be (women and Disney fairytale lies). The red pill runs deep; the lies are a mine, we should dig deeper.

[–]not88 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean...we ARE animals...but we have the ability and brain capacity to rise up out of that animal nature unlike other species. It is those that choose to stay down at their animal nature and live like animals that will forever be lost in a state of ignorance and pain. It's those that choose to raise their consciousness up over that of an animals that can experience true freedom and bliss.

I'm beginning to think societal lies and falsehoods are far grander than we MGTOWs narrowly make it to be

Oh, 100% no doubting this whatsoever. It is extremely DEEP. Levels most people cannot bring themselves to consider, let alone believe.

[–]not88 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When will people like you quit being so misinformed and stop spreading lies?

[–]claydn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Men are only has mentality healthy as their ability to tell a woman to fuck off. ~ Paul Elam

[–]Aaron-MGTOW 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with this on some levels, but if a man chooses to still have sex, he can still go his OWN way. The sex is on HIS terms and I thought that what going your own way was all about.

Now if he's marrying a woman or succumbing to her manipulation and so forth in order to get the sex, then it's not on his terms and he's not going his own way.

Going your own way and still having sexual relations with a woman is not mutual exclusive. There is plenty of overlap and I think that's where most of us reside.

I still have sex with women but I do it on MY terms, it works for ME. I refuse commitment and LTR/ marriage. Going your own way means (to me) that you are your own man and a woman doesn't control you or your decisions. I don't have to be celebant to achieve this.

[–]MGTOW_Monger 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Um.

Not all want to be a MONK.

Simple as that. You do what you need to do and I'll do what I need to do.

The common theme is not to be controlled or harmed by wommenz. You take it a step further and believe to not be controlled by biological urges. No problem.

I, however, find great pleasures fucking multiple hookers legally in legal places like Costa Rica.

To each his own

[–]huckleberryferry[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not preaching about becoming a monk here. Please reread my post.

[–]ijpqenbfp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been doing nofap and it definitely gives you some more energy. Plus you get free willpower training (which is a muscle) from not fapping.

[–]sharpshaaman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been trying to do NoFap but it's hard man. The hormones are too much. I want to go 90 days without it but I can't with my current mindset.

Are there any books out that you would recommend on Buddhism or philosophy that helped you out a lot? I noticed you mentioned hedonism.

[–]nigelh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of people here have not moved beyond rejecting the slavery of the long-term-relationship to freeing themselves from women all together. They have realised the foolishness of of the blue pill but not embraced true freedom.
That's quite normal. The world has been feeding them the 'Happily ever after' lie and even their beloved porn tell them that you can engage with a woman under your own terms.
Until you resolve to be free the plantation is still calling you home.

[–]Onkel_Adolf 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

All true, but when the Emma Watson sexbot becomes available I will be all over it.

[–]huckleberryferry[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Obsession for Emma? Or rather, addiction to Emma?

[–]Benny757 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

One of the best posts I've seen in a long time. This warning and reminder of what mindset must be developed to defeat the drive. Thank you for bringing it up.

[–]huckleberryferry[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks that you understand.