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TRP is affecting my life (self.TheBluePill)

awsamb が 投稿

Unfortunately, a year or two back (when I was 17) I started believing some of the toxic stuff that MGTOW/Sandman/TRP preaches. Growing up I have always LOVED women and have always tried to make them laugh and was such a joyful kid..and they loved being around me for it. I had dreamed of having a family one day with a wife I loved and yada yada.

I got depressed in high school which made me vulnerable to believing negativity. I somehow stumbled across sandmans YouTube page and spent a few months reading up on MGTOW/TRP "protocol". I found it all fascinating and it filled my desire to be confident again. Deep down I had always wanted the love of women and I thought this was how to get it. But it really just made me hopeless and have no faith for my future.

On some level I still believe that women are incapable of loving men, that all they want is money, and we spend our whole lives chasing them but they don't really want us. It's terrible feeling this way because it destroys my dreams.

How do I get rid of these terrible, toxic views?

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[–]PM_ME_YOUR_FRAMEInstant karma is my sexual strategy 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What do you think about

On some level I still believe that men are incapable of loving women, that all they want is hot bodies to fuck, and we spend our whole lives being chased by them but they don't really want us. It's terrible feeling this way because it destroys my dreams.

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[–]awsamb[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think that's true..because I have personal experience and feel otherwise. It's weird because I have love letters from my ex-gf that are incredibly heartfelt but I just can't believe they were true.

[–]InVelluVeritas 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You should try to understand both sides of TRP advice ; they give generic "good" advice (try and work out, be more confident, etc.) but they wrap it in a heinous philosophy of misogyny and emotional manipulation, based on nothing but dubious anecdotal evidence.

Try to ask yourself : why do you think women are incapable of love ? What would make them that different from us ? Do you really believe every woman you've ever known was only after their partner's money ?

To be fair, if you've started questioning the TRP ideology, you're in the right track ; just try and interact with some women and you'll see by yourself that they can be awesome human beings just as you =)

[–]7-62x39 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should try to understand both sides of TRP advice ; they give generic "good" advice (try and work out, be more confident, etc.) but they wrap it in a heinous philosophy of misogyny and emotional manipulation, based on nothing but dubious anecdotal evidence.

I feel like an alternative Redpill would be beneficial or at least some kind of primer for letting weird awkward guys know what to avoid before they start reading TRP. Alternative Redpill would be better.

[–]OmLiLiThe Irrational Male 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The same way you stop thinking about Camels, put yourself into a situation where you stop thinking about Camels. Kinda hard to get off the TRP bullshit train if you're hanging around reddit!

On some level I still believe that women are incapable of loving men, that all they want is money, and we spend our whole lives chasing them but they don't really want us. It's terrible feeling this way because it destroys my dreams.

Well, you gotta remember that there is no You, people just love what you bring to their lives right. So be a happy awesome person, and you bring happiness and awesomeness to other people's lives. Staying in a place with a bunch of butthurt weirdos won't make you happy or awesome.

At the end of the day, no one here can really help you or force you to do anything, if you wanna stay on TRP and keep reading the bullshit, go ahead, if you're gonna do it, you'll do it no matter what anyone here says.

[–]Arbitrary_moondust 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm in a long distance relationship with a broke college kid. If I was after money I would have dumped him long ago. Long distance is rough and I wouldn't have made so many sacrifices for him if I didn't love him from the bottom of my heart

[–]awsamb[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's awesome :)

[–]AuthorAnonymous95 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it helps, every woman I've steadily dated was wealthier than me. TRPs notion of "women love you for something" or other is true to the extent that "unconditional love" isn't really a thing. You won't be loved just for existing for the same reason that you don't love every woman you see at school or in the grocery store or wherehaveyou. There are a number of things that both men and women want: physical attractiveness and money, sure, but also stability, loyalty (would you date a woman who didn't support you in your hard times?), entertainment, other things that are hard to describe. All I can really suggest is don't worry about it too much, and while self-improvement is a good idea (better to work out or get an education than not) fundamentally be true to yourself, and you'll meet someone someday who loves you for who you are, whatever that may be and you will love her for whatever makes your motor run. Best of luck to you in your future.

[–]bainbridge_island 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Deep down, i still believe that men are incapable of loving women, that all they want is younger pussy, and we spend our lives chasing them but they don't really want us, but just younger pussy and ego validation.

[–]awsamb[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Crazy cause I feel like I've seen someone say that before, but I've always just read past it or assumed they were lying for personal gain

[–]ManSentHisOwnWayCaptive of the Sun 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As someone who's struggled with similar beliefs I can honestly say that for me it all goes back to my self-hatred and depression. I hate myself and can't see any women wanting to be with me and that's why silly things like all women settling for betas and Chad's illustrious Thundercock are so appealing to me. I know none of it's true but it still feels good to pretend it is. It hurts in a satisfying way. Now, I haven't gotten over these feelings, they're still there, so it'd be stupid of me to go tell you how to get over it all. But I think tackling any self-hatred and depression you might still have is a good beginning. At least, that's what I'm hoping for. Outside of that I mostly spend a lot of time debating against these ideas here on Reddit, mostly on PPD. That helps me not give in whenever I just want to vent like an entitled little boy about how ugly I am and how no woman wants me because they all want Chad.