/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1537426

I don't see how 8ch and bunkerchan are competing.

First

>>1537423

I think we should not move. The only time we should move is if we can move up to a more visible position and not down into a more obscure one

>>1537433

You literally can't even find /leftypol/ on google.

>>1537435

Yet we were the 3rd most popular board here

>>1537435

Yes you can. For me at least.

I don't think moving is a good idea. Especially not so hastily.

>>1537435

Google has a history of removing 8ch.net from their search results, though.

>>1537438

We shot up in popularity by posting on 4/pol/ and trolling reddit. 8chan gave us a start, but it is largely incidental to /leftypol/ now.

>>1537448

Yes, that's the point.

>>1537450

If we migrate, I'm not going to ask pretty please. I will force the migration.

I'm down to move, but not to bunkerchan. Space is a faggot and his site is ugly.

Bad idea. We should wait until we have at least 1000 users.

>>1537450

You put my thoughts into words, I second this. Just by being here, we show that there are alternatives. It's free advertising.

>>1537459

I'm not moving. If you do that I'll just start /leftypolk/ and stay here.

>>1537461

What does that have to do with anything? If someone goes here and there has been a migration, they will see the migration and then go to bunkerchan.

>>1537468

I know some people will do that if we migrate, but it won't work. Established boards need a stable mod team.

YES PLEASE!!!!

>>1537470

>What does that have to do with anything? If someone goes here and there has been a migration, they will see the migration and then go to bunkerchan.

Or they will think that we were hacked or that the mods are playing a joke

>>1537472

Hey want to join my mod team on /leftypolk/?

>>1537475

>Or they will think that we were hacked or that the mods are playing a joke

That's an edge case.

>>1537477

??? what are you on about dubs man ???

>>1537478

Don't do a forced migration pls.

I started browsing in like '15 and I've been hearing about this eventual exodus to some new board since back then.

What usually happens is: a small group goes somewhere else (a new board, new chat room, whatever) and become a small clique kind of besides and "above" leftypol, while most give up and settle down here. So I don't see the point in trying that once again.

As far as Bunkerchan goes, it is a really awful site, it has a bad design, the colors and font are shit, I hate the fucking music and it's pretty difficult to invite new people to shady .xyz webistes. So it has literally no potential.

>>1537488

If BO does a forced migration of /leftypol/ I'm starting a new board on /leftypolk/ want to join the mod term.

>>1537495

yeah alright neighborino

>>1537494

Its ideal that we only move if 8ch meets fatal end

And yes bunkerchan needs lots of changes

>>1537423

STRAWPOLL

SHOULD WE LEAVE?

https://www.strawpoll.me/12685399

https://www.strawpoll.me/12685399

https://www.strawpoll.me/12685399

https://www.strawpoll.me/12685399

https://www.strawpoll.me/12685399

>>1537423

Yes please. I'm all for moving. 8ch is garbage, and the admins can not be trusted after the hacker reveiled they were datamining us explicitly for the authorities in secret. Hopefully we get less people from /pol/ constantly shitting up the board in the process.

Well its no secret that we are the most hated board on 8chan. Not to mention the website itself has had multiple issues in terms of performance and security that may be better ironed out if we were to move. Ive been here since the beginning, we've had the migration discussion before as a board and i have to say in the past ive been against it.

But these issues keep coming up over and over. I think their are a lot of good reasons to leave 8chan but at the same time, weve been though all the bullshit this place could throw out us and we grew to one of the largest communities on this shitty site.

What reasons do we have to stay other than convince and nostalgia? If we wanted too we could make a new site, probably better and in the way we it as a community, its really just a matter of time and funds, which we could get im sure.

I dont want to leave 8chan, but in terms of practicality for the board, 8chan will continue to fuck up and we will be very a low priority if anything more major than the last blackout, not to mention the huge security risk this poses to the user base but to the mods as well.

I think if we have to migrate it would be better for all of us in the long run. Maybe we could actually grow, we could get on google again. Ill support what most of you want to do, this is our board and we should make this decision collectively and democratically as possible.

>>1537502

This is just going to be brigaded by /pol/yps once this hits /pol/.

>>1537450

>made it to 8chan

I meant few people who made it to bunkerchan, jesus

>>1537459

Try your best, I don't want to see this place die, but be sure of the risk. We're gonna have to shitpost twice as hard to ever make a ripple to reach the rest of the internet

This place is already risky, with that Sunshine program, and with the entirety of the site and the staff showing their distaste for us. We know they don't have any standards, and they have the ability to make a falseflag(and everyone already attempts to) to get rid of us.

So I won't deny that I have thought about forming our own separate community. But it feels like admitting defeat. 8ch already has a reputation to ride on.

>>1537423

8chan is idpol cancer run by incredibly sketchy people. I only come here because it's more active than bunkerchan, I'd have moved years ago if it were an option.

Let's take this opportunity to pull the plug and leave.

I also think moving would be a mistake. It would take the most dedicated posters away, leaving this board to become a place full of uninformed idiots posting crap and tarnishing the name of leftism. We should stay. Who cares if the mods don't like us.

>>1537505

Whens the migration going to happen? Please wait for like a month.

>>1537512

we are still talking about it, right now, in this thread.

It's a bad idea because Space_ is a fucking retard who constantly says he wants to improve the site and take notes from the users and then individually shoots down every single suggestion because he knows how to manage a dead site best.

>splitting

IS BO a trot or something? On the other hand I always liked bunkerchan but never used it bc it was so slow.

>>1537502

Strawpolls are always a mistake waiting to happen

>>1537423

april 1st was 4 days ago, you bimbo

but if this is true

then leave if you wish, /intl/ will take over as the anti-/pol/ or anti-/v/

implying this entire website isn't a fucking echochamber with or without /lefty/

>>1537423

Bo please don't do this. Exactly right now organisation is happening that centres from leftypol. If you nuke the board it will make it extremely difficult for us. By all means we should have a back up bunker board, but Leftypol has been steadily growing until as you say, we are the 4th most popular board. Its also well known that we are the most hated board. Considering the ideology of most of 8chan, thats a title I relish I wear with pride.

Leftypol is literally the only place on the internet that isn't dripping in ideology. Do not nuke plz

>>1537515

THIS

>>1537516

WE'RE NOT SPLITTING We're migrating

>>1537495

>/leftypolk/

At least name it something more original, mate

I know the whole thing sucked, but take a deep breathe, think about what it will mean if we split

>>1537526

>WE'RE NOT SPLITTING We're migrating

We're going to lose a lot of people however you phrase it.

Stop talking about "splitting" you fucking retards

leftypol is not a party, we're a website. A constant inwards and outwards flow of people based on how well it serves its purpose is to be expected.

Out of curiosity is there a time frame on how long would it take to have bunkerchan ready for a full migration? I imagine migrating from a VPS to a dedicated server wouldn't take but a weekend no?

>>1537535

Anyone who's too retarded to follow a link to a new website deserved to get left behind.

>>1537526

It's splitting if not everyone is willing to leave.

>>1537527

I'd suggest leaving out "left" altogether if you're planning to move. This way typical polyps, liberals and newfags don't throw a fit and think we're all [insert ideology].

>>1537525

I agree with everything you said. I vote no because leftist echochambers (and echochambers in general) are literal cancer.

I say the migration should only happen if 8chan kicks us out. Otherwise it seems dumb as fuck to leave this place to the /pol/yps. It is a cowardly retreat, in my opinion.

>>1537524

> Leftypol is literally the only place on the internet that isn't dripping in ideology. Do not nuke plz

I agree with this; I also love the fact that we're so hated and despised. It feels nice to be an internet boogeyman.

>>1537505

The thing is, the only reason we grow is cross polination. 8chan has a large userbase and draws a lot of curiosity from people. If we move we lose that. Being the lefty board in the reactionary hellhole has all kinds of advantages, we are constantly challenged so it never becomes a circle jerk, for example, which is good. If we were in a bunker it would get insular

Hey BO how are you going to separate /pol/ coming in here saying we should migrate and everyone else?

>>1537525

That idea was Hotwheels', Jim is a pig farming, miscegenating never-was who fancies himself a talk show host for /pol/. He doesn't give a shit about impartiality and could delete the board whenever he fancies.

>>1537551

FUCK THE REACTIONARIES. NO NUKE LEFTYPOL

>>1537511

>I also think moving would be a mistake. It would take the most dedicated posters away, leaving this board to become a place full of uninformed idiots posting crap and tarnishing the name of leftism.

No different than the 8ch.pl leftypol.

>>1537494

>What usually happens is: a small group goes somewhere else (a new board, new chat room, whatever) and become a small clique kind of besides and "above" leftypol, while most give up and settle down here. So I don't see the point in trying that once again.

Read the thread:

>>1537459

>If we migrate, I'm not going to ask pretty please. I will force the migration.

>>1537515

He has already agreed that the /leftypol/ mod team would have complete control over /leftypol/.

>>1537516

>>1537525

>>1537532

>>1537541

>>1537545

It's not a split. There will be no userbase left here if we migrate. I will make sure the discussion moves.

>>1537524

>Bo please don't do this. Exactly right now organisation is happening that centres from leftypol. If you nuke the board it will make it extremely difficult for us.

The board just got nuked by the admins. I want to move to prevent us from dying. If we move, we move and survive.

>>1537543

It would be ready within a week.

>>1537546

>>1537525

/leftypol/ isn't an echo chamber because of our loose moderation style. It has little to do with 8chan. Again, we have interacted extensively with other sites, and that is where we got at least 500 IPs.

>>1537543

In over a year Bunkerchan had literally no improvement done. I doubt the owner even thinks about that website regularly.

It's like a chan version of those weekly I-started-a-socialist-reddit threads.

>>1537553

The fact that Howard is backing Leave should be a testament to the fact that it's a bad idea.

>>1537459

Well, then you can go fuck yourself. If you force a migration, we'll just make a different /lefty/ board here without you.

If you think you can force me to move, you've got another thing coming.

>>1537553

like it or not we are going to decide this democratically. You can call the shots when your in charge of your one man technocracy.

>>1537557

>In over a year Bunkerchan had literally no improvement done. I doubt the owner even thinks about that website regularly.

The site never took off because /leftypol/ is the only popular leftwing imageboard. Network effects prevent competition. If we move, the site will change.

>>1537560

see

>>1537470

>I know some people will do that if we migrate, but it won't work. Established boards need a stable mod team.

>>1537558

Ok people here's what we do: we start a new website and then we have like, super-computers and genius engineers figure out how to make it good and how to make it function properly. It's the best model I can think of.

>>1537556

what makes you think that we are going to be kill by admins? Considering they let pedoshit happen would they really get rid of us?

We are the only middle finger sticking up on this bullshit site and pretty much any chan. We need to remain and remain as we are, which is working, the numbers prove it

>>1537548

This is a really good point. Here are the facts:

A) We grow a large amount due to the 8/4pol crossposters who are paranoid as fuck about us, the redditors are more often than not an unwelcome addition, the worst of whom will shit up every thread for days at a time

B) Jim is not trustworthy and the 8ch team are evidently pretty incompetent and petty

C) Space_ is retarded and his site is dead because he sucks at design and doesn't care about the numerous issues that forced everyone who went to use it when it was a bunker to leave after two minutes

>>1537565

Hey BO how are you going to separate /pol/ coming in here saying we should migrate and everyone else?

>>1537556

>I will make sure the discussion moves.

You can't make sure of anything. The community atomizing and dying is as likely as a perfect migration. This seems really knee-jerk.

>>1537574

Not yet, we're just getting prepared.

>>1537565

This isn't a vote, but if everyone wants to stay on the sinking ship, then I won't force the migration.

So far however, I haven't seen any actual thought put into arguments for staying. None of the people defending 8chan seem to understand that if they shut our board down before we migrate, it is fatal to us.

I think we occupy a very important position in this den of stormfaggotry and it's poor form to run away at the opportunity to continue rustling jimmies and redpilling people.

>>1537569

>what makes you think that we are going to be kill by admins?

see:

>>1537423

>1. 8chan can just go down again, killing our board and making migration extremely difficult.

>2. They can play politics and specifically attempt to undermine or delete our board.

>>1537556

Your answers are satisfactory, but it still seems cowardly to abandon this place.

>>1537567

Gee, the BO is telling me that making a new board if they leave won't work and it'll never be as popular as /leftypol/!

I do not believe you. Run away like a coward and kill your userbase. Others will take your place.

>>1537556

man I really think you are just pissed off right now. You have a reason to be, but lashing out isn't going to solve it in the long term. Whoever did the hack did the hack. They fucked the whole site, the mods took the oppourtunity to do a little fuckery of their own because they are mostly reactionaries. I mean, on the same day 4pol became MLpol, so it wasn't like we were the only ones to get fucked with. It was an eventful april fools day sure.

a little spooky if I'm honest, seems like a cointelpro type thing, but i don't htink the 8chan staff are the threat.

Unless you have information i don't

>>1537556

>It would be ready within a week.

That'd be amazing!

>>1537557

At least it's actually opensource, so even if no improvement was made by space, which I think their would be, the community could step in.

>>1537586

If we make a newboard after getting /leftypol7 deleted then they will delete it again, the 8ch admins are the problem

>>1537580

>>1537584

I know it could theoretically happen, but what makes you think that it will happen and happen soon like less than a month as you say?

>>1537586

>I do not believe you. Run away like a coward and kill your userbase. Others will take your place.

This is actually kind of true. I mean, with all due respect to the mods it's not like they're making a phenomenal job that is totally irreplaceable.

>>1537558

Believe or not, I do actually care about this board and all of you red-fags.

I want to see /leftypol/ succeed and thrive.

I look very fondly upon the years I have spent shiposting here.

It is because I care so much about this board that I'm backing an immediate forced migration.

>>1537565

You fail you understand just how dire our position is here.

At any moment the lights could go off and we would all be left to scatter into the winds.

I care far to much about all of you faggots to let that happen.

If you do not want this board to die, then the only cause of action is the migration.

>>1537574

Staying here would mean the end of /leftypol/.

>>1537589

But we aren't getting deleted.

>>1537589

Yeah, the admins that haven't deleted the board are the problem.

Give me a fucking break, am I supposed to swallow this bullshit?

>>1537592

>at any moment the lights could go off

what makes you say this? Surely this has been the situation for our entire existence

TBH if they did kill us, and we migrated after, it might cause enough of a stir to actually bolster membership

I totally okay with moving, but NOT to bunkerchan. Either BO should make their own imageboard or I will set up my own.

>>1537594

>>1537595

But the prospect looms over us

If we leave, then please name the new board /leftypol/ because we've already established a certain reputation and identity(ha idpol) that doesn't deserved watered down in a move.

I would appreciate if Frederick, Jim, and anyone else would come here to /leftypol/ for a serious conversation about impartiality. When they do this sort of shit, as also happened some time back with some drama over of the owners of one of Gamergate boards, it very seriously undermines the point of 8ch.

>>1537600

We'll keep that in mind

>>1537592

>>1537584

Is there information that I may have missed that would suggest there is an imminent and real threat? I just don't see where this comes from

No.

Just because we went down for three days doesn't mean we should leave.

In terms of potential growth and stability, I support migration. Let's be honest, 8chan offers no support and many boards are outright hostile, not to mention the flagrant hostility displayed by the admins.

>>1537599

So there should be a plan in place in the event that happens. Going scorched earth for no reason isn't a good approach.

>>1537553

>How ever will we make due without a nationalist shill that in in favour of /pol/ shitposting here.

See. This is the kind of cancerous attitude that made me leave "leftist" sites in the first place. This idea that we need an "echochamber", or the idea that anyone that disagrees should fuck off.

I hated the dogmatic attitude, the language policing and the demand for complete orthodoxy. Places like RevLeft come to mind.

>>1537579

The problem I have with committing to a migration is that I have no idea how this new board or community would look like.

What technical benefits would it bring? Would there be a place for boards like /liberty/ or /pol/? What about non-political communities? Who are or will the owners, where are the servers located, etc.

And how would this be better than - let's say - moving to 8ch.pl?

>Ron/Jim haven't delete leftypol

>but the BO wants to

This is fucking hilarious.

>>1537601

well this is the thing, this is supposedly the free speech website. They have extremely questionable shit all over it, how can they claim to be free speech and yet close off a whole political board?

I don't know about the rest of you but I also happen to use a lot of other boards on 8ch. Would be a shame for the leftist presence on 8ch to evaporate.

>>1537423

>We shouldn't give a shit about their inevitable autistic celebration if we leave.

Half the time they cheer for us to leave entirely, the other half they're howling that we split.

>>1537608

the hostility is good.

>>1537584

Is there any proof of this happening besides Leftypol being one of the last major boards being reinstated?

>>1537600

My understanding is that we would be moving to https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/

>>1537620

yeh but who the fuck uses bunkerchan? Nobody would stumble across us by accident and youneed that

>>1537610

And that is the argument I am making, we should remind on 8ch until a calamity

>>1537614

But we will have fun non political boards on the backup site

>>1537620

keep it for if we get nuked, but until then we should stay. If we get nuked it will cause uproar and that will be good

You are not allowed to prevent people from posting on a board and implement such measure as a BO. What if the migration doesn't succeed the BO gets removed and a more (secretly) hostile party manages to capture the boardname and the board?

>>1537614

This is another reason. I don't just browse the political boards.

>>1537599

What the fuck ever, faggot. Just admit you have no actual reasons to leave and you're just running away because the BO doesn't have a life and sat around the house all weekend stewing about 8chan insteas of doing something, anything with their lives.

>>1537621

I mean 8chan doesn't even show up on google.

Dang, fuck you Hotwheels for selling out 8ch.

Yes, we should leave, fellow /leftypol/ users.

>>1537628

yeh but people know about its existence and look for it, it is a known website. definitely more so than bunkerchan which will have zero cross pollination

>>1537553

Why do you think it be better to migrate rather then letting the reactionaries repress us and end up soiling their retarded """free-speech""" counter-culture in the eyes of the internet.

>>1537614

This is my biggest issue with moving.

I ACTUALLY USE THIS WEBSITE, ASSHOLE

>>1537635

FUCK THE REACTIONARIES. NO PASARAN

>>1537622

I'm sorry but that simply doesn't cut it. Boards like /apng/, /lv/, /svidya/ are all important niche hubs to me and would be even deader elsewhere than they are here. I'm not about to abandon those communities. The only appropriate move from 8ch should be if the entire userbase someday gets fed up with incompetence or partiality and moves to a complete replacement for the site like endchan. I am not at all interested in a "leftist-flavored" replacement.

>>1537632

That's a fair point.

>>1537628

Bunkerchan does, though. I didn't remember the URL and found it through it.

>>1537635

>i identify with a billionaire

leave kiddo

>>1537635

But what about freeze peach? :3

>>1537635

>he's from cuckchan

it's time to go back

>>1537579

If it were possible to vote in a way that cant be manipulated by /pol/ then id say we put it up to that. But that's not gonna happen.

>>1537592

>At any moment the lights could go off and we would all be left to scatter into the winds

We can recollect ourselves if we go dark again, weve done it before, theirs bunkerchan, Getchan ect.

That being said, i dont think theirs an imminent danger of us just being deleted for no reason. I think the community here would go apeshit and retaliate, at least id hope we would, i like to think we arnt slime.

>>1537629

>Also enough with this "WE" shit. You are not the goddamn overlord of the users. They are free to do whatever the hell they want. You can make suggestions but there is no "we" obeying your every command.

>YOU can choose to move, and if YOU move, YOU will move within a week. Not WE, YOU are not the queen of England.

Fucking this. This thread just shows how oversensitive and childish the BO is, acting like they actually own the fucking board.

Guess what? You may be surprised, but it's the users who really run this board, not you. You just get rid of spam.

>>1537644

dude you are not saying why you think there is an imminent threat, is there one, or is there not one? In which case, i think you are just stressed about the site going down and all the shit that went with that. It doesn't mean the site staff are out to get us

>>1537646

He does own the fucking board. Hence the name board OWNER

I am not ok with this. It will be a slow death through obscurity.

>>1537644

REMAIN

>>1537637

I understand your concern but if 8ch goes down those communities will dissapear with it too

maybe on the backup site will will also have the power to make boards.

>>1537649

Yeah, and a CEO owns the company because they have the most shares, right? :^)

>>1537638

it should be the main point. We can't grow on a dead server

>>1537579

They won't shut down our board. 8chan is faithful to free speech.

>>1537582

>>1537585

Do you understand that it's not just nazi shitposting anymore, the admins are breaking neutrality and deliberately kept /leftypol/ shut down for an extra day? Do you understand what a threat this is? We aren't running away from /pol/, this is about the actual existence of /leftypol/.

>>1537586

OK, give it a shot and you'll see. Board competition doesn't work. That's why /marx/, /anarcho/, and bunkerchan never took off. It's why /a/ is still a top board. It's why /pol/ is run by autistic rulefags. Sorry.

>>1537590

>>1537605

I don't think they will shut us down in a month. But I think they will eventually fall to bias and shut us down. We can't prepare for that while staying on 8chan. It will come out of the blue and kill the board if we stay here.

>>1537598

the current /leftypol/ mod team will have full autonomy and independence from Space and the other bunkerchan people.

>>1537600

>If we leave, then please name the new board /leftypol/ because we've already established a certain reputation and identity(ha idpol) that doesn't deserved watered down in a move.

We already did that.

>>1537617

From the users, yes. From the admins, absolutely not.

>>1537610

It is impossible to migrate when we get shut down unexpectedly. There is no way to plan for it. The only way to deal with it is pre-emptive action.

>>1537611

>The problem I have with committing to a migration is that I have no idea how this new board or community would look like.

It would literally just be /leftypol/. Yes, it would be better than 8ch.pl.

>>1537614

>Would be a shame for the leftist presence on 8ch to evaporate.

It will evaporate if the admins delete us.

>>1537621

read the thread.

>>1537635

New plan. Let's all just move to 4/pol/.

Can bunkerchan even sustain a big migration and more growth?

Site admins of chans have always been incompetent, power-tripping, sell-out pieces of shit ever since moot left Something Awful. Space_ is the same. Moving will just be trading the devil we know for the devil we don't know.

If we are to move, it needs to be to a place that is markedly better and does not have /leftypol/ as its only tennant. This board has more than quadrupled in size since I started coming here, and that is because we actually get traffic from outside, not only from the rest of 8chan but also from other sites as our notoriety has risen. We would lose all that by migrating.

>>1537659

>Board competition doesn't work.

How is there competition if you fucking leave, idiot?

>>1537661

That would be better than moving to bunkerchan. At least there we would get traffic.

>>1537659

>We can't prepare for that while staying on 8chan.

I really don't understand the argument here. Everyone knows about bunkerchan by now, don't they? If shit goes down again just regroup there and discuss what's next. I'd prefer an actual migration to some board on endchan if it comes to that.

How about no

While the concerns are certainly valid, the fact is that we're not getting deleted. Not any time soon, at least. We may be in the midst of hostile territory, but outright moving is just going to be admitting defeat. You cant just delete the board because the site owners are acting like dicks.

I've got no intention of leaving, and I'd be sad if most everyone else pulled out, but whatever happens happens.

I will say I'll miss the genuinely good discussion and the occasional shitposting, because /pol/ has become an echo chamber that takes itself far too seriously.

At least this place allow some dissenting opinion and occasional bantz.

>>1537659

>the admins are breaking neutrality and deliberately kept /leftypol/ shut down for an extra day? Do you understand what a threat this is?

Not really. It seems more like a prank or a dig than anything serious.

>>1537670

Learn to design a website.

>>1537657

Like obviously that would change with a mass migration of people from /leftypol/ but I certainly think their would be a initial damper on development of the community.

>>1537659

>I don't think they will shut us down in a month.

So we don't need to rush through this and bail right now.

> But I think they will eventually fall to bias and shut us down.

But why? Why haven't they done this in the years its been here already?

>We can't prepare for that while staying on 8chan

all we need to do is make a big shiny bunkerchan sticky with "incase of kill, here is the bunker" keep it advertised, and everyone will know.

Aside from that, if we allow them to nuke us, there will be a big reaction both for and against it, which will be good for the repopulation of bunkerchan, it would put it on the map, rather than us just slipping away. We have to stay and fight so we can be valiantly slain(but its a board so it doesn't fucking matter and we just get the honour), rather than just leaving the castle and going to live in the mountains straight away

>From the admins, absolutely not.

aside from the snub putting us up last, what hostility is there? was it really all that bad? If anything it shows we are gaining, cos they consider us a threat now.

>>1537435

You can't find 8chan on google at all you tard

>>1537659

Gib proof's mods are going to delet us.

>>1537659

>the admins are breaking neutrality and deliberately kept /leftypol/ shut down for an extra day?

It was at the end of the list. And one day of downtime is very mild compared to what /pol/ had to put up with over the years.

They had their boards removed twice, had to put up with spam, bots, admins that were way worse than the 8pol mods ever were and active hostility from the owner.

And yet that they stayed and grew. It was only after a long coordinated effort and several crises that they decided to migrate. These few hours of extra downturn don't even begin to compare.

>It would literally just be /leftypol/.

So what then is the benefit of moving? Less exposure, community split. You talk about the benefits of staying, but I see no benefits in leaving.

>Yes, it would be better than 8ch.pl.

Why? The people at .pl also claim to be committed to free speech and have their servers in Moldova.

>>1537659

>lets get rid of exposure because the board might go down

>Do you understand what a threat this is?

oh whatever will the world proletariat do without our shitposting. seriously though, the only real life benefit this board has is familiarizing people with socialism. bury it in bunkerchan and it becomes pointless

>>1537658

>8chan is faithful to free speech.

It absolutely is not. Their commitment to free speech has been completely discarded.

>>1537660

This is irrelevant. We would move to bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol.

>>1537664

Because you're not just competing with 8chan boards, you're competing with the whole internet, including the site we would move to.

>>1537663

>Space_ is the same. Moving will just be trading the devil we know for the devil we don't know.

Space isn't a Nazi sympathizer for one. And we don't actually know anything about the 8ch admins any more. They are secretive as fuck and don't communicate like hotwheels did.

>>1537668

>Everyone knows about bunkerchan by now, don't they? If shit goes down again just regroup there and discuss what's next.

This doesn't work. It never has.

>>1537674

It's an unacceptable threat. The admins can't fuck us over and then act like it was an innocent prank.

>>1537677

>But why? Why haven't they done this in the years its been here already?

Well why did they change their neutral policy? It's because the site is getting worse. They will fuck us.

>>1537676

The point is, there is no other reason to be on bunkerchan, so we won't get any crossposting. You know how we always get those posts "i used to be a nazi but now im reading lefty stuff" that won't happen because they won't have this to stumble across.

Also just people interested in weeb shit who then end up coming here or whatever

https://8ch.net/pol/res/9636424.html

>>1537668

Exactly. Isn't there a /leftypol/ twitter? They could just promote the new board in the event of a deletion.

>>1537683

good points here

>>1537567

>The site never took off because /leftypol/ is the only popular leftwing imageboard. Network effects prevent competition. If we move, the site will change.

The fact you believe this is a perfect reflection of all the reasons /leftypol/ projects tend to fail, and why this project will fail as well.

/leftypol/ is a success because it's 8chan. Certain things, like a decent layout, a stable server (or so we thought), a guaranteed flow of people and so on made its prosperity guaranteed. We grew out of this website's overall success. If you cut it off /leftypol/ from it, then you're like a merchant thinking that if you leave the marketplace the people who have been buying your product will follow you.

For some reason, people here seem to be completely obtuse to this. You think that just moving people towards a new space will guarantee growth. And you're this way because you don't listen to criticism. You think you know what people want more than we do.

>>1537685

>Well why did they change their neutral policy?

when? With the putting us last? Its a cheap shot. It wasn't like some fundamental change. Sure it stings a little, but like I said, unless they are going to go full nuke, all it shows is that they consider us worth taking a cheap shot at.

In what ways is the site getting worse?

Also, I really want you to respond to the suggestion that in terms of internet drama, getting nuked is better than just migrating, much better.

>They will fuck us.

But why haven't they already fucked us? If they have to silence us, that is a BIG WIN for us.

Don't shit the bed just because of one downtime, jeeze.

>>1537670

Space_, this is fucking awful.

>>1537685

Dude, just sleep and return after you have detoxed, ffs.

>>1537670

Fix your ugly site.

I don't think we should leave, as I don't think websites that host a forum for a single issue tend towards growth. Just look at revleft and how far they've declined. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=revleft,r%2Fsocialism,leftypol

>>1537659

>I think they will eventually fall to bias and shut us down

We arent going to shutdown /leftypol/.

>>1537671

That sounds all nice but I've been in threads in /cuteboys/ where even they mock /leftypol/.

>pretends to treat us equally

yeah that doesn't happen. Ever.

>>1537692

Why has the board salt changed?

>>1537701

wtf i love jim now

>>1537701

Pinky promise?

Homicide-suicide pact?

>>1537704

ment for >>1537701

>>1537698

this tbh man I really think you are just pissed and tired. idk how you run a board, its probably a fair amount of fuckery. Take a sleep, or watch a movie or some shit. Chill out. If you are the board owner, you have everything to be proud of, you have facilitated the best board on the internet. Name me a better one, you can't. In terms of politics, this is the peak. You made that, don't spunk it because of some low blow by a bunch of asshat reactionary site staff

>>1537701

Is this the real Codemonkey? How do we know?

If so, can you explain why the 4th largest board was put at the bottom of the recovery list?

And when are the really small boards going to be fixed? Tired of /lv/ redirecting to some weird post on /a/.

>>1537683

>It was at the end of the list.

Because they deliberately fucking put it there. /leftypol/ is the 4th top board, it needed to be prioritized.

>>1537683

>one day of downtime is very mild compared to what /pol/ had to put up with over the years.

We don't have nearly their numbers. And they already had numerous exoduses to back them up.

>>1537688

>Exactly. Isn't there a /leftypol/ twitter? They could just promote the new board in the event of a deletion.

Not enough people read twitter.

>>1537692

>/leftypol/ is a success because it's 8chan. Certain things, like a decent layout, a stable server (or so we thought), a guaranteed flow of people and so on made its prosperity guaranteed.

No. Most of the other boards have floundered on 8chan. /leftypol/ has grown due to its unique topic and relaxed moderation. Look at /a/, /pol/, /v/, and numerous other boards here: all of them have half or less of the users they had at their peak. 8ch hasn't done shit.

>>1537701

We have literally no reason to trust you.

>>1537701

You better fucking explain yourself if you don't want to lose one of your fastest boards and set a big, bad precedent.

>>1537706

board volunteers I implore that you use your weight to lobby the owner. We need our leftypol. Think of the reactionary laughs if this happens. No. we must stay. NO PASARAN

>>1537712

>can you explain why the 4th largest board was put at the bottom of the recovery list?

They were just busting our balls dude. Everybody is taking this shit too seriously.

>>1537706

I pinky promise that we wont ever shutdown /leftypol/ barring a complete shutdown of the site.

>>1537423

>we're pissing them off

>let's leave

why?

>let's go to bunkerchan

aren't they infested with SJWshits?

>>1537459

You can't force me to post on a new site, m8. You can force me to not post here by banning me or shutting the board down, but I don't have to use your shitty non-alternative. Don't make this a battle of wills on as contrarian a board as this.

>>1537470

They won't go here if the board is a depopulated wasteland of /pol/ shitposting. Did Jim threaten to feed you to his pigs or something?

>>1537544

>nobody would willingly not follow to me some other site known for its hotpockets, surely it is that they are too ignorant to do so

>>1537553

>muh swift n decisive action

let me guess, the Reichstag caught fire again?

>>1537579

>So far however, I haven't seen any actual thought put into arguments for staying.

Take your head out of your or Jim's ass then. There've been plenty.

-the design on bunkerchan sucks

-their pockets are hot

-we will stagnate, turn into an echo chamber and die without the dancing monkeys from /pol/ that periodically come in to entertain us with their idiocy

-we are triggering everybody else on the board by existing

-people are getting sick of /pol/ using us as a boogeyman

>None of the people defending 8chan seem to understand that if they shut our board down before we migrate

which I doubt would happen since Jim telegraphed his punches hours or days ahead of time when he removed pedo

>it is fatal to us.

No it fucking isn't. Put up link under the banner or something linking to wherever we migrate to if this site or board go down or something.

>>1537715

>No. Most of the other boards have floundered on 8chan. /leftypol/ has grown due to its unique topic and relaxed moderation. Look at /a/, /pol/, /v/, and numerous other boards here: all of them have half or less of the users they had at their peak. 8ch hasn't done shit.

But how can you say that success could have occurred without 8chan? Without all the people who saw leftypol because of GG, because of visiting the "darkest reaches of the internet" they heard about in times or salon or whatever.

>>1537722

Your promise is worth nothing. Your input is irrelevant to this thread.

>>1537722

WHY HAS THE BOARD SALT CHANGED.

>>1537715

>their users have gone down

>our users have gone up.

that means that cross pollination has happened and you can see the proof in posters who say specifically that they cross polinated all the time

>>1537722

why did you bring it up last? do you love nazi kissless virgins that much?

>>1537712

>If so, can you explain why the 4th largest board was put at the bottom of the recovery list?

There are still 10,000 boards that arent recovered.

>>1537728

Hacker got the salt and could crack your trips otherwise.

>>1537701

Can you at least kick out the paranoid board owner?

>>1537727

are you gonna answer

>>1537694

>>1537732

this pls

>>1537732

>>1537734

You're asking for the site admins to come in and involve themselves with board ownership, completely destroying the entire purpose of 8ch.

>>1537732

Please no.

>>1537741

It already happened in the fast famalam.

>>1537731

>There are still 10,000 boards that arent recovered.

lmao. Amazing argument there dude. The #4 board on the site was the last one to get restored.

>>1537732

Nope. If you dont like him you can do like /pol/ and make /leftypolk/.

We have to leave, we have our mortal enemies right next door to us and they come over to fuck with us all the time.

>>1537685

Have you considered moving to endchan?

>>1537732

no the paranoid board owner just needs to relax a little and think straight.

>>1537731

>There are still 10,000 boards that arent recovered.

And yet you still prioritized /erg/ over leftypol?

>>1537747

KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE AND YOUR ENEMIES CLOSER.

ITS A GODDAM PROVERB

>>1537701

>>1537722

>>>/sudo/32327

ANSWER THIS YOU LYING MOTHERFUCKERS.

>>1537727

Dude, you are salty as fuck.

>>1537756

Meant to post with the vol trip.

>>1537744

Sure it was last on a list of the top 25 boards. Only the first 7 or 8 boards came up the first day and the remaining came up about the same time on the second day. I fell asleep after the third batch, then brought the rest up in almost tandem.

https://8ch.net/april2017.html

>>1537722

Why did you restore us last? We are the 3rd-4th most popular board.

>>1537752

So we using christcuck memes now?

>>1537701

What utter garbage.

Anyone that would actually believe you are just the sort of /pol/ shills we should be trying to get away from.

>>1537715

BO.

I have had a number of problems with how you have run the place over the years.

But this is an opportunity to redeem yourself for constant, systematic failures in leadership.

You seem to understand just what danger this board is in.

At any point we could be deleted on a whim - left scattered and irrelevant.

A forced migration is literally the only way to guarantee the survival of this board.

I hope that you do what is necessary to keep this board alive - please do not listen to the /pol/ shills wanting us to stay here, with our heads in a guillotine.

>>1537750

There is no /erg/

>>1537423

IF YOUR GOING TO DO THIS DO NOT LET /POL/ CLAIM THE BOARD AND TURN IT INTO S8S.

>>1537763

..its mostly attributed to either Sun Tsu or Maciavelli but nobody really knows? What?

>>1537760

Nah I think Codemonkey can be turned into a comrade when the time comes c:3

>>1537759

Do you honestly expect us to believe the upload time wasn't politically motivated? You're not even answering the question.

>>1537761

>Why did you restore us last?

/leftypol/ wasnt last. I am still restoring boards now.

>>1537759

Fuck off. We are easily the #4 board. You made us endure an extra day of downtime only because of your bias. The more you lie to us, the more obvious the danger of staying here is.

>>1537731

Why should we stay when its been proven multiple times that the site isnt secure? This shit has happened, multiple times in varying degrees. The fact is the site is a large target for a variety of reasons, and we keep getting caught in the crossfire. If we move, thats not as likely to happen.

>>1537759

so you're implying it wasn't done on purpose?

jesus man you could at least say "ye we wanted to fuck with you guys". you expect anyone to believe this? people here don't have /pol/ tier Autism Levels

>>1537770

千里之行，始于足下

>>1537774

>/leftypol/ wasnt last. I am still restoring boards now.

We were last on the list. Boards outside of the top 25 are borderline irrelevant.

>>1537767

*/erp/

>>1537763

What, are the christ-inanes taking credit for that now, too?

>>1537679

You can if you're not retarded, wikipedia links here.

>>1537686

This is probably the deciding factor for me. This board serves to convert increasingly more people from 4/8pol as Trump continues to show how shitty democracy and capitalist politics are. We don't really get much done otherwise, we exist to procrastinate, we could be reading books, building local connections, converting people down the pub, but we're shitposting on a site full of nazis and making them mad. Some of these people come over to our side, sometimes liberals fuck up and we kick them while they're down together, and also importantly our presence on mainstream imageboards gives us access to the more capable elements of the internet.

Space_ should make bunkerchan better, everyone should bookmark it, and the possibility of deletion should enter our collective conscience, but we shouldn't move. We should form a leftypol twitter list, I'm not sure if there is a way to add/have people added automatically from a list somewhere, but after verification anyone from here that wants to end up on it should do, and if SHTF this can be one of the ways we survive. We should work on constantly decentralizing ourselves and finding new ways to reach people, not retreating into the bunker.

>>1537778

Thank you for this concept, it actually really has a lot to do with what I'm doing at the moment

>>1537784

This is the most logical choice

>>1537747

Don't be weak.

>OMG THEY PUT US LAST WE HAVE TO ABANDON SHIP

Holy shit fellas. Everybody needs to take a chill pill. It was a petty jab. Nothing more.

I think that this thread has already fulfilled its purpose in holding the administration so accoutable that they felt the need to chime it, BO.

>>1537784

>>in the meantime users will be made aware of our backup site and bunkerchan will be reformed to accommodate the userbase

This is impossible to do. People simply won't do this unless there is a planned migration. There is no precedence of this happening during past shutdowns, or even during this shutdown.

>>1537715

>Because they deliberately fucking put it there. /leftypol/ is the 4th top board, it needed to be prioritized.

None of the boards where in order of total users, PPH, total posts or alphabetic order. Leftypol might have been last. But /kc/ - which was one of the largest boards before the hack) was also one of the last to be restored.

>We don't have nearly their numbers. And they already had numerous exoduses to back them up.

That's exactly why we shouldn't move and split. This idea of every user moving overnight is not realistic. None of the boards pulled that off.

Bunkerchan is simply too small of a community. *chan has /v/, /tech/ and a lot of the other boards that get people to stay.

And as >>1537729 pointed out, cross-pollination is happening. You lose out on that if you move.

>>1537765

>Anyone that would actually believe you are just the sort of /pol/ shills we should be trying to get away from.

>All this unsubstantiated paranoia

>>1537756

Sorry fam the only way I'm leaving 8ch is if the rest of the communities I care about come with. I want someone to discuss movies and television on a television and film board. I want people to discuss music on a music board. I want lots of people to discuss computers and shit on a technology board. I want people to discuss video games on a video game board (this will invariably be better than that piece of shit /b/tard currently running 8/v/ however). Leftist politics is only one thing I use image boards and I'm really tired of running around different image boards over the years. Bunkerchan simply won't do, the alternative would need to be a fully generalized 8ch replacement like endchan or whatever.

I'm migrating to bunkerchan, at least to help create a presence there. It's obvious that this isn't going to be resolved anytime soon and I'd rather be in a community that I know won't be subverted, or rather allowed be.

Fucking idiots.

This was bunkerfags plan long ago.

They replaced BO with their own infiltrator and hacked this site on purpose and then bribed the codemonkies to put it up last all so that leftist traffic will be diverted to their fascist cointelpro controlled "bunkerchan"

>>1537795

What are you talking about? Most big migrations happened involuntary and weren't planned action.>>1537793

>>1537798

id prefer it was in the open like this so we can tell them absolutely not

>>1537767

Can you please answer the question? Why did you take so long to restore leftypol and not put it into the first batch.

>>1537795

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537779

>>1537801

The funniest thing about this joke is the idea that Bunkerfags can plan anything

>>1537806

Stop spamming.

>>1537798

so you would rather have a load back door discussions where the board has no input at all discussing the continued existence of the board?

Really?

>>1537786

>-Boards which migrate always smelled like faggotry and drama.

>-The new home would also inevitably have its problems with downtime, hacking, staff drama, bugs etc etc etc. Fuck, given the left's history, I wouldn't be surprised if that home split into yet another new home within a couple of months.

Yes

>-We would be relisted on Google, but I doubt many people google for "leftypol" in the first place. If I could hazard a guess, it's that newcomers either come straight via a link, or come from another part of 8chan, which still does enjoy some fame, whereas a new site wouldn't. In other words, being listed by Google doesn't mean much.

The new site will have a /leftypol/

>-This is hostile territory and always will be, we all knew that from the start. We're the bogeyman of the bogeyman. It sucks that Kikemonkey trolled us by leaving us left, but you don't react to a troll by getting all indignant.

This is truth but the menace still looms over us

>-Speaking of being in hostile territory, do you really wanna give the reactionary babbys the pleasure of victory? Our mere existence here drives them into apopletic fits. Sure their effeminate cries of celebration don't really matter, but then again, the OP is a mess of drama and chest-puffing in the first place.

i agree with this, that is why i want us to leave only when this site goes kaput

>-institute a new "rule" in the appropriate sticky: "in case /leftypol/ bites the dust for good, go to temporary meeting place X where we'll pick a new home"

Seconding this

>-On the other hand, uniting /leftypol/ with bunkerchan would be nice – the left desperately needs to unite more instead of split.

good too

>-On the other other hand, I don't like the division between /left/, /leftypol/ and /dprk/, they should be all one board. The first two would be mutually redundant, and I don't like separating a board just for shitposting. Part of the fun here is having serious threads mixed with shitposting.

I like this too

>-BO is a dildo-jockeying faggot for his involvement with /ggrevolt/. I just felt this needed to be restated.

…

>tl;dr: take a chill pill, Kikemonkey is probably laughing his ass off at your e-indignation. It's not the end of the world. It's rare for a decent lefty community like ours to stay solid like this. Unless you can get Bunkerchan to merge /left/, /leftypol/ and /dprk/, we should stay here.

Again truth, i took my chillpill

when will 4chan open a /leftypol/ board?

>>1537808

stop being controlled by bunkerfags

All of these boards were prioritized over /leftypol/

/wooo/

/v/

/pol/

/a/

/b/

/hwndu/

/co/

/tv/

/tech/

/k/

/christian/

/monster/

/hgg/

/tg/

/n/

/newsplus/

/polk/

/brit/

/argentina/

/asmr/

/cuteboys/

/erp/

/loli/

/cow/

/kc/

/pone/

/fur/

/furry/

We are the 4th largest board. Explain this C!odemonkey.

>>1537816

this

>>1537423

>>1537776

>>1537775

Posting to say I support this all. Hopefully it will also stop /pol/ raids as well.

What's the point of having leverage and negotiating power if you're just going to cut and run right now? The fact that any targeting happened at all, followed with all the desperate backpeddling, means we have some negotiating power at least. Better to not react too egregiously and keep a real backup plan in mind for alternatives rather than throwing away the only card we ever have to play.

For the record, I value our ability to be situated and survive long-term in a main "den" of imageboard culture but understand that a time comes when we have to cut our losses (though I don't think that time has come yet)

>>1537781

>Boards outside of the top 25 are borderline irrelevant.

I dont agree.

>>1537811

>>1537810

>>1537808

man could you please respond to

>>1537694

>But why haven't they already fucked us? If they have to silence us, that is a BIG WIN for us.

If they shut us down, it makes them look like idiots, which is a big win for us

>>1537822

And that somehow makes boards in the top 5 irrelevant? Oh, just the ones that have the word lefty in them I suppose.

>>1537795

people didn't show up to bunkerchan because they were not aware and if they did show up they didn't post because bunkerchan is ugly.

the migration after an accident is possible if we're prepared.

>>1537819

I took the chillpill, you take the chillpill.

We should not be paranoids, we should be getting prepared

>>1537822

But leftypol is? Why exactly were they more relevant than this board?

>>1537816

Codemonkey wanted to make a joke he knew /pol/ would laugh at & cheer for. Now he's had his pants pulled the fuck down & is damage controlling. There's your explanation.

>>1537819

i just want them to see reason

>>1537822

Answer this.

>>1537816

>>1537823

This.

Really sad leftypol mods were so easily corrupted by bunkersjws

>>1537827

it is better for us if we get shut down and there is a big meltdown about it. Much better press than just migrating.

Even though i don't really see how we are going to be shit down

>>1537796

>All this unsubstantiated paranoia

Fuck right off.

They fact that you are shilling for the bloody 8chan team of all bloody people should show you what side you are on.

As long as we stay here, we are left utterly vulnerable to anything they want to do to us.

The 8chan team show shown that they cannot be trusted even to a small degree.

Anyone shilling for them is promoting the interests of /pol/ and is actively working to subvert this board.

It is absolutely impossible to migrate a userbase by force. Rather than make vapid threats, promote why a migration would be beneficial (like various volunteers have done).

>>1537822

>>1537774

Don't be obtuse man, you know what people mean when they write "last". Be honest: was it because you didn't want to trigger another tsunami of bullshit complaints from /pol/ (and similar ilk)?

>>1537829

>he thinks anyone cares about this place

the level of usi lmao

this thread is hilarious

you people are nobody

you will never amount to anything besides autistic screeching on the internet

>>1537822

Just tell us how the list was devised. It's fine if it was just a joke. But some people are losing their shit over this.

>>1537836

This, we have to work strategically and react proportionally. Throwing an immediate counter-tantrum is the worst strategy imaginable

itt: spergs

>>1537840

BO needs to calm. We got a cheap slap. That is all, rise above. We are the only hub of reason in this cesspool of madness and that needs to continue

I'm pretty much bought on the concept. However, I have a few concerns:

Wouldn't Bunkerchan be more susceptible to hacking than /leftypol/?

How do we continue to gain exposure as an isolated imageboard site rather than a popular board on a huge imageboard site?

Can we please fix Bunkerchan?

see you all on bunkerchan

BO, calm down, C!odemonkey, apologize, and then we can all move on with our lives.

>>1537786

>-Boards which migrate always smelled like faggotry and drama

/sp/ left without any problems.

>>1537816

It was done in order to start shitflinging and triggeringz.

Boo-hoo, 8ch admins hate us. WHO KNEW?! OH, THE HUMANITY!!!

Can we move on and focus on dominating them?

>>1537727

>promise me

>ok I promise

>your promise is useless

?

>>1537423

>Picture of man standing his ground in defiance

>Post about fleeing in terror with our tails between our legs

Really makes you think

Leave this thread up long enough so the Europeans also get a say.

>>1537858

Well yeah but leaving automatically makes them faggots.

Checkmate, Kautskyists.

>>1537860

exactly. It is a mark of a) how based we are and b) that we are growing. We are the single biggest stir in this whole chan debacle. Think about that

What are the odds that the Bunkerchan "improvement" we're hearing about ITT will entail making yellow comic sans the standard against a red background

I need to go to the store and buy some dirt and rocks so I can bury some stuff. Be back later.

Were they grouped in semi-unified 'data clusters' (for lack of common terminology), prompting them to be rebooted with certain other boards?

/pol/ is telling us to go. That pretty much solidifies my opinion about us saying.

Anyway, it's time for me to go to bed. Don't let the BO kill the board while I'm gone.

>>1537855

>if space_ admits the site is ugly

Bunkerchan has an objectively better default colour scheme then here.

You fuckers has no taste for pleasing aesthetics.

>>1537870

Don't make excuses for your enemies.

I think the position of many people here is: we need to move, but Bunkerchan is not the place.

>>1537855

there is no reason we can't move to bunkerchan in the event of getting nuked, it will in fact be the only successful way to force a migration without splitting.

It would also cause an uproar, as I keep saying, which would be good press, with the muh free speech card on our side.

In any case, I am yet to see tangible proof, besides the petty jibe of being put up last, that we are in fact in danger of being nuked.

>>1537868

The only other reasonable chan I know about is endchan, and 8ch.pl.

>>1537872

I'm looking at all possibilities, I could care less what anyone throughout the entirety of 8chan thinks.

>>1537852

good, I think everyone here is overreacting a bit. Honestly I think migrating would be a mistake, since we'd surely lose a good chunk of our userbase and the free publicity we're getting just by staying here. We should have some way of telling people here about bunkerchan, like some other anons suggested if something bad does happens

>>1537827

>people didn't show up to bunkerchan because they were not aware and if they did show up they didn't post because bunkerchan is ugly.

>the migration after an accident is possible if we're prepared.

There's no way to make people aware enough, we tried it.

>>1537825

>If they shut us down, it makes them look like idiots, which is a big win for us

What kind of logic is this? 8ch would celebrate.

>>1537836

>Much better press than just migrating.

What are you smoking? We get no press.

>>1537837

>Every time there's a shake-up the BO gets cranky and butthurt and talks about forcing a migration.

Patently false. This is the first time I have seriously advocated a migration.

>>1537839

>It is absolutely impossible to migrate a userbase by force.

No it isn't. Do you know what the mod tools and board settings allow?

>>1537840

I'm calm, I've barely even thought about this all the time it was down. My life is hectic. But I sat down to discuss this, so that's what I'm doing.

>>1537862

I didn't ask for his promise.

>>1537880

Sorry, the headers just say board owner, without differentiating which board owners.

>>1537880

>Patently false. This is the first time I have seriously advocated a migration.

Oh, you're serious this time. My bad, all the other times you floated the idea must have been jokes.

>>1537787

Wikipedia =! Google

>>1537827

>I took the chillpill, you take the chillpill.

I'd LOVE to take the chill pill, but as it turns out, I've been here from day one, have been a core team player, and have been banned 10+ times – all of which were unjust.

I guess I should just turn to the corner and recite muh little red book, huh?

>>1537852

>It is deafetist if you think it with anger.

No. We have been triggered on purpose by fucking angel-worshipping admins of 8ch.

WHO GIVES A SHIT?

They are dumb as shit. They haven't read a book in their lifetime. They think it is funny that they treat us like shit.

Who cares. Our site is back. Time to refocus our efforts. What we should focus on: changing the very user base this angel-worshipping moron admins hinge on:

>>1537671

this thread is objectively defeatist. shame on BO.

>>1537888

In the past, I have advocated using bunkerchan as a backup, and I put it in the FAQ. I never advocated an immediate migration.

>>1537884

>We're not leaving, we're just getting read for a calamity

We really just should. If a calamity happens, there a chance most people here won't go to the new board, or will even care.

I'm happy with what ever gets decided, but I just wanted to share my $0.02.

Newboard.

8ch.pl/leftypolk/

>>1537423

>/pol/ enlists codemonkey's help in making digs against /leftypol/ & hindering of board operation

Well the course of action should seem pretty fucking clear, shouldn't it?

FUCKING STAY.

The more admins do to fuck this board over, the clearer it becomes just how partisan they really are, and how flimsy their claims of fostering free speech are.

>>1537869

>I need to go to the store and buy some dirt and rocks so I can bury some stuff. Be back later.

Look everyone, this is how much the site admins care about our presence on 8chan. They will delete us without warning.

I need to get groceries. I will be back later I guess.

>>1537884

serious question, are you triggered right now?

This is cointelpro.

>site owners can kill the board but don't

>let's kill the board ourselves

This is like salting your own earth before the war's even declared. BO is literally a fucking retard.

>>1537906

says the anfem

>>1537901

>>1537904

Lol as if we're actually leaving

>>1537784

That is sensible and acceptable. I am 100% okay with it.

>>1537786

This comrade also knows what's up. This site and its users have endured far worse than not being able to post for a few days. Remember Shite Goblin and the failed migrations? Or Bui, or topspam.hk?

>>1537795

>it's impossible to have a bunker site/backup board

what is /fur/? what is 8ch.pl?

>>1537880

>What kind of logic is this? 8ch would celebrate.

Maybe some of 8ch would celebrate, but definitely not the whole of 8chan, certainly not all the leftypol posters who also post on other boards.

Also pretty much the whole reason 8chan exists is MUH FREE SPEECH. For them to utterly and completely u-turn on that just because they can't handle a commie board in their safe space would make them a laughing stock on the internet. Aside from that, i actually do believe that most of them would be against shutting down a political board for that very reason.

Man, even reddit drama upped our userbase, of 8ch killed us, that would be news in the world of chan board posting, pretty big news.

>What are you smoking? We get no press.

Man, you of all people must know that these boards mean a lot to some people and people spend a lot of time on them. Also they don't do much else, so you know how the drama kicks up. This would kick up drama definitely

>>1537874

>there is no reason we can't move to bunkerchan in the event of getting nuked, it will in fact be the only successful way to force a migration without splitting.

>>1537884

>I agree with all of this

THIS IS LITERALLY /pol/ PARANOID STICKY-TIER

If we survive this shit with half our userbase il be amused.

There will be no more people coming to the board out of curiosity.

We should totally leave and start our own where pol doesn't have any sway over us - no more influence over us.

>>1537846

>>1537860

>>1537760

Still the best poster I see.

>>1537880

Are you being willfully ignorant? Even if you managed to load the board on the URL, some people would still figure out it's not the same page and not post out of principle.

You might be able to move PART of the USER and thus create a new userbase. Users are concerned that this will fragment the userbase. Playing to their fears with vestigial threats will only make people less likely to take your position.

Again, try to promote your idea and make it appealing, because so far your performance has been pretty awful and patently different from how I have seen you behave before.

>>1537918

t. /pol/

>>1537896

But you have advocated one. This isn't the first time we've had this discussion. The only difference is you're pissed off enough to use qualifiers like serious and immediate.

>>1537900

why haven't they done this yet? if they did, it would cause a shitstorm, which, like I said, would be good. Also, it would be the only way to force a clean migration, so they would actually be doing us 2 favours.

>>1537920

/pol/?

I have a proposal to fix community relations within 8chan:

1) Change the banner topic that displays on all boards to something like "All political boards will be closed on 4/11/2017"

2) Create a bit dot ly redirector

3) Send it to the smash hit "Never Gonna Give You Up" by Rick Astley.

This is literally like when Hoxa built all those bunkers to stop the Yugoslavs from invading

Yeah this is blatant cointelpro. Sounds like leftypol mods really are compromised. /leftypolk/ when?

>>1537920

Hey /pol/. If the board owner tries to force us we may create a new board.

>>1537920

There is still the /leftypol/ discord to milk for lulz. They have no idea how many moles are there.

>>1537920

/pol/ and /goldwater/ aka /newsplus/ are already doing that pretty well honestly

>>1537896

>I never advocated an immediate migration

Every second we stay here is a second we are vulnerable.

We should be starting the migration process now.

As the recent downtime showed, very few people knew about/used the back-ups.

If we were to be deleted, we would never be able to reform on them.

Action needs to be taken now, do not listen to the /pol/ shills trying to get us to stay.

>>1537926

how will people find bunkerchan?

im pretty sure we get some good exposure by being third to fourth on this site.

>>1537900

They haven't deleted squat, commie scum

Congratulations, BO. See what you did. Watch the panic. We can't leave this site. We must endure till the last second.

>>1537939

I want weekly threads with a pic informing them about bunkerchan plus bunkerchan is indexed by google unlike 8ch

>>1537931

this ahahaha

>>1537900

>Look everyone, this is how much the site admins care about our presence on 8chan. They will delete us without warning.

You are right, yet you have to concede, comrade to this:

>>1537760

>Codemunkay, kriplekike, we will literally put you to the wall, and shoot you!

This is (class) war, and you know it.

They realized it a long time ago. We should understand this and be happy about it.

Leftypol isn't another X-candidate/president worshipping place like mainstream /pol/ and they know it. Good. We are the counter-culture this site, this world, craves. If they don't want us, if they purge us, they'll lose a huge opportunity.

>>1537941

Go away grandpa

>>1537846

Why do you think that leaving a site that has proven time and time again to be unsecure, is in any way at all defeatist? This is about the survival of the board, if you dont like the possibility of a discussion about the future of the board to be discussed by the board itself then why even bother posting?

we need to think of this logically, this site isnt secure, its proven that over and over. We need to think of this in terms of operational security. What were to happen if somehow the personal detail of the BO, to volunteers or the users.

Belive it or not we are a community that has a target on its back from a shit load of people for a variety of reasons.

8chan is not safe, its a target and as long as we are here we are ALL vulnerable. And if we stay, we are all at risk.

Granted, if we move we are also still at risk, but we arnt gonna get caught in the crossfire if someone hacks to site because pol did something stupid.

>>1537938

You sound unhinged.

>was going to intiate a new project where /leftypol/ sings do you hear the people sing.

You guys can't be fucking serious.

>>1537918

I know some people will disagree with that, but if we are less visible we'll be out of sight, out of mind more often.

>>1537939

Any other chan we goto we'll get great exposure. Most are dead.

>>1537943

>bunkerchan is indexed by google unlike 8ch

Good Point.

>>1537900

No offense. But between the rampant paranoia the only one I see doing damage to this board is you and a few other posters.

In almost 4 years this is the worst that has happened to leftypol? We were restored a day (less than that) later than /pol/?

Even if Jim did this because he didn't want to upset /pol/, even if he did it on purpose as a joke, even if he did it out of spite, it's still nowhere as bad as what /pol/ has had to put up with. And certainly doesn't warrant splitting the community.

>>1537938

>We should be starting the migration process now.

Okay. Bye.

>>1537946

no u fgt

>>1537906

This is "defeatism, the thread."

>>1537939

exactly this, nobody uses bunkerchan at all ever, this is the main point

Excuse my tech illiteracy but considering our low numbers is it really advantageous to have a dedicated server instead of just using a VPS?

Isn't a dedicated server only better if you really need to deal with a huge load?

I asking because a dedicated server is usually much more expensive than a VPS.

>>1537938

Well sweet you can leave. I'm staying unless the people forcibly delete this board.

I dont think we should leave for pretty much all the reasons everyone else has said. Itd be a step down into more obscurity.

Everyone should know of bunkerchan in case of deletion, but we shouldnt leave unless we absolutely have to.

Plus bunkerchan doesnt have a .onion link I wanna use 8chan.

even if we decide against migration the mod team needs to be replaced since they are obviously biased against staying here

so lol, way to shoot yourself in the foot, cointelpro

>8chan is not safe, its a target and as long as we are here we are ALL vulnerable. And if we stay, we are all at risk.

Man you talk like you are either paranoid or there is something you are not telling us

>>1537943

/pol/ is already speaking of taking over the board if we leave.

After we move all our new users will have to come via self divulgation and OC.

>>1537957

W-woah.

Now i truly see.

>>1537947

please explain in plain and clear detail what you mean by saying we are under threat.

Could you define the specifics of this threat?

>>1537958

Seconding all of this

>>1537961

We won't leave unless 8ch goes down, ive said this many times

>>1537948

unhinged???? that's not the howard scott I know!!!!!

>>1537970

We're not leaving unless 8ch goes down, we're just preparing for the scenario

>>1537970

DID CASTRO CUT AND RUN AFTER CONSTANT ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS ON HIS LIFE?

>>1537973

Boo fucking hoo.

>>1537970

>>1537977

/thread.

>>1537867

Underrated post.

Don't forget the cursor trailer.

>>1537975

Yet the BO openly discussed the serious proposal for the necessity of an immediate forced migration.

>>1537919

These trends just show that we have an ideological footprint on this shithole-of-a-site and BO simply doesn't get it.

They give us shit – so? BO thinks this is an occasion for defeatism. I say this is the occasion for celebration.

>>1537926

>Why is it paranoid

Because it was obv. banter from angel-worshipping admins. It was meant to trigger us, and if BO does get trigg'd by it, it shows weakness. We should celebrate the occasion. Stickying this shitty defeatist thread reinforces their agenda. It is paranoid because WE AREN'T, OBJECTIVELY, GETTING PURGED FROM THE SITE.

>>1537987

this, mod team needs to be replaced to be honest, /leftypolk/ soon

>>1537867

They should also make the autoplay music louder.

I HAVE DEVELOPED THE GREAT COMPROMISE

We stay on /leftypol/ due to the huge advantages of being on one of the largest imageboards. However, we still need to fix Bunkerchan and spread the word of its existence as the backup thread.

In order to do this, I propose a centralized /leftypol/ Twitter and Youtube account run by BO that will provide important announcements to the /leftypol/ community, such as when /leftypol/ is down and using Bunkerchan is needed.

Thread theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M340eIpF7-E

>>1537975

By all means advertise and maintain a bunker in case of nukes. There is no need to to force or even suggest a migration before then however