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[–]The_Litz 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Whether the pics were nude or semi-nude is irrelevant. Whether they hooked up or almost hooked up is irrelevant. What you have here is someone that is actively trying to get out of her marriage.

The actual actions don't matter, her motivation behind her actions are your problem.

At this stage she is backtracking because she realised Chad is only in it for fun and she will only branchswing if she is certain she can swing successfully.

On some level you are still trying to make excuses for her by recreating a best case scenario in your mind.

Be honest with yourself, would you tolerate this from a girl on your second date?

[–]stonepimpletilistsMod / Red Beret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, it's not cheating, it was only talking.

Well, they were actually texting, but it was only text, so it's not cheating

Well, they were actually sending pictures, but it was only clothes, so it's not cheating

Well, they were actually semi nude, but no nip, so it's not cheating

Well, they were actually nip, but it wasn't IRL, so it's not cheating

Well, they there was that conference, but it wasn't intimate, so it's not cheating

Well, it was just a business dinner, but it wasn't making out or anything, so it's not cheating

Well, they were making out, but it wasn't sex, so it's not cheating

Well, I never SAW them having sex, so it's not cheating.

Best advice I've seen in here, assume it crossed whatever line you want to bullshit yourself into shifting around... Then your choice becomes clear, or your fear of it

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Pill Militia 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This might be the best definition of trickle truth I have ever read.

[–]RBuddDwyerRed Beret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reminds me of the Eminem lyric from "Guilty Conscious"

What she tripped? Fell? Landed on his dick?

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You left out the clearest evidence of all: If she was really ending it with Chad, then there would be no reason for her to tell OP about it. She wants him to end it for her.

[–]The_Litz 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True, the only other reason could be the therapist urging her to 'come clean', but you are right, if it was a clean break she could hide it forever because OP believed her when he confronted her.

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Forget about her, what do you want?

[–]Aaren_Augustine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. This is an excellent opportunity. Wife goggles pulled off and crushed. Whole new world. Why we gotta try and save the old world? Never was real to begin with

[–]drSiAl9782 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Been here. The true litmus test for whether she is serious about wanting to work on your relationship is to ignore everything she says concerning this and simply watch her actions. Make sure they 100% match up. Either way, you will have your answer about how genuine she actually is.

[–]mrpthrowa 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Question: how can he be her personal trainer and not have the chance to bone her ?

Short answer: leave

Long answer: go and look at the text history, and leave.

[–]izual19 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My wife admitted when I confronted her that she was having an inappropriate relationship via text messenger. We went to therapy for months and eventually I forgave her.

After I forgave her I found out she had relationships with 3 other guys she didn't admit too. Basically wasted 6 months of my life on bullshit. Wished i had left her.

[–]zeteomegaleio 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go look at the texts and see what she is doing for other guys. You might find she lied more by not confessing everything, and at this point if she wants to work anything out then she loses the right to privacy.

Not to say this is an automatic divorce. Your money situation is not good. You have kids. People stay together over a lot worse.

I'm not suggesting that you come at it from a scarcity mentality specifically regarding other women, and it sounds like she doesn't really want to work things out either. Just that I respect there are other factors in life that affect this decision.

Still, it sounds like she is trying to force you into making the decision to divorce. The good news is, this is now about what YOU want. Forget her opinion on the matter.

Oh, and whether you stay or go, you'll never be able to trust anyone like that ever again.

[–]LaLongCarabine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://therationalmale.com/2016/10/24/please-breakup-with-me/

FWIW this is the blog post that introduced me to TRP. AWALT.

[–]RBuddDwyerRed Beret 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

her previous 11 partners

You do know you are supposed to triple that number, right?

Anyway, it's pretty clear she is an Alpha Widow, and she settled for you. The only way to salvage the relationship is for her to see you as the highest value man she believes her SMV can afford you. But she has already said she chose you because you were a "nice guy". She married you for that reason, so do not be mad when she no longer wants to be with the guy she thought she married. More bad news, though, is you definitely have Chad Thundercock to compete with, and he is her personal trainer. (I bet she was fantasizing on him knocking her up and her passing it off as yours.) As you know, you can only change you, you cannot change her. She has to find you more attractive than him for her to switch her desire around. What makes this harder to work with is that if her therapist is likely pushing her to make a decision about whether to stick with you, and telling her that she will be okay with whatever decision she makes, so long as she makes it.

Bottom line, you have a pretty deep hole to dig out of. I'm not sure it's worth it to keep going with her. Start working on an amicable separation. MRP is, after all, about saving the man not the relationship.

Edit: Let me actually answer your questions:

Am I crazy for thinking she is genuine in wanting to work on our relationship?

Probably. She has already said she married you because you were a nice guy. You were the guy she wanted to settle down with and expected to live with. All of the sudden you are not that guy anymore. To the extent any woman is capable of rational thought, that is going to be the one going through her head when she makes any decision.

How should I treat her or act around her?

However you want to. You act the way you want to, not the way you think she wants you to. Just Be Yourself. (But understand that women only find a certain type of "yourself" sexually attractive...)

I'm pretty sure I have the ability, using Verizon Messenger app, to see all of her deleted txts. Is that a bad idea, or am I just going to make myself more sick?

Not when you are trying to make a case for fault in a divorce. While most all states are now no-fault divorce states, a lot of them consider infidelity when determining alimony. Other than that, what it is going to tell you that you don't already know? She's a lying, cheating bitch who is just following her ingrained hypergamous programming just like any other woman would. You don't get pissed off at the dog when it shits on the carpet, that's just what dogs do.