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[–]Noragi 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dan you seem to have a lot of experience with partners. I feel like there's a stigma where you shouldn't run a business with your friends. Can you expand on your experiences working with friends and what you've learned about picking partners?

[–]dandemsky[S] 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It can tear friendships apart I'm sure. But with my friends we can separate business and friendship quite naturally. My business partners are my best friends and that makes it easier to be candid with each other. We can yell at each other and call each other fucking morons and we're still like brothers. Ultimately we all want to see this thing be successful and we got each others backs. Maybe I'll have a story in 20 years about how nobody should do what I did. But as for now - I think it's the best. I like working with my friends because we can go for beers and feel productive. Talking about opportunities and challenges. Seems like a positive to me!

I once employed a best friend at bizmedia and ended up firing him. He remained my best friend. And now he's a partner in one of the new businesses. It just wasn't a fit then. It is now. No bad blood. When we fired him we gave him unlimited severance until he found new work. And he ended up making way more money elsewhere and we helped him stay on his feet. That's how business and friendship mix. We did the right thing for the business and we did the right thing for our friend. And now he's a partner! Who I can call a fucking moron all I want and he can too!

[–]zipiddydooda 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also would love to read more about this.

[–]walkerlucas 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for posting this Dan, I've been following your story for quite some time now (and am actually wearing some).

I've been wanting to do a crowdfund for some time now but haven't pulled the trigger.

Really appreciate you taking the time to write all this out and hope it will inspire other entrepreneurs to share their lessons with the community and others to take action.

[–]dandemsky[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks man! Appreciate the support!

[–]trznyc 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What a great post, thank you so much for this. This is extremely useful to me as I'm in the middle of planning out my campaign. I'm scheduled to be shooting my video in 6 weeks.

What are you thoughts on all these crowdfunding agency's out there today? Also you mentioned you read a lot about crowdfunding before starting; are there any books or resources you could recommend? Thanks in advance and congrats on all your successes.

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Read everything you can find. I loved the post on the 4 hour blog about crowdfunding, although some of the info is dated.

I don't think the agencies are all that great. But I'm sure some are good out there. I just think it can be done without them. But if you don't have the man power it may be smart to hire an agency if it makes sense money wise. In our case it didn't. And we had 3 of us working on the campaign. If I was solo I woudl need help from somewhere.

[–]stoicbizman 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Great post! I'm interested to learn more about how you got into entrepreneurship. Did you take the dive straight from school? Any tips for entrepreneurs and wantrepreneurs starting out?

[–]dandemsky[S] 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hey man.

TBH - I never really 'took the dive'. I became an entrpreneur while in school and never finished school. It's all I know.

I was in my moms basement when I started so I had no overhead and 3 hot meals delivered each day. Those conditions are beyond amazing for taking a shot at starting your own business and I'm very fortunate for that opportunity.

Having said that, a lot of my friends went off to get jobs and sometimes they say to me 'you're so lucky - one day I want to start my own thing'... But they are making great salaries to learn how companies 1000x bigger than mine do things. It's getting paid to learn. I have only ever learned by reading and messing shit up really badly. It's a great way to learn, but man - it can be stressful at times. The benefits of entrepreneurship are pretty awesome, but sometimes it's a way shittier reality than having a job that you can completely forget about after 5pm and on weekends. Pros and cons to both sides.

As for advice - just get started. No matter where you are in life - just try something out. Do a crowdfunding campaign or start a service business in your area that you can do in your spare time. Starting in any way, big or small - is a worthy endeavor and often easier than most people think. You don't have to stop everything and make your whole life your business. It can be a 10 hour a week thing and it can take off!

[–]AarontheTinker 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Service. Least overhead to start you up. But all the reading u/dandemsky does shows that just reading can go a long long.... Long way! Congrats on all your successful startups Dan. It can really be a long hard crawl at times, but focus on the positives and learn from your mistakes.

Have fun!

[–]candid_account 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How old are you?

I sort of went to the entrepreneur part and now I'm realizing I'm still a damn fucking wantreprenuer which I'm trying hard not to be. I graduated college at in 2014 and still living in my moms basement. 26 end of April. Its so depressing. I have friends doing jobs and me dreaming about successful website I want to own. I don't even have a social life to put blame on.

Maybe my geographic location might be an issue as I'm not in Europe or North America where the buying power exist. All I have are soft skills digital marketing. No hard skills like web development. I'm sort of working on it now :/

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're young. Don't ever worry about where any of your friends are at in life. Just focus on yourself. And keep at it. Sounds cheesy, but for real. And the world is all connected. You can live anywhere and have a business that's international. Just keep trying. Keep learning. And believe in yourself man. Call yourself an entrepreneur. Not a wantrepreneur.

[–]TunaBoo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

In our campaign we said we needed to raise $30,000 to launch the business and get to manufacturing. The reality is, if we raised less than $75,000 it would be near impossible for us to launch

Did anyone else find this dishonest? If you ended up at say 40k.. your campaign was a success.. but you really didn't have the money to launch. Were you planning to take the 30k loss and ship products in this case, or were you going to do a "campaign was a success but refunding everyone" move?

[–]dandemsky[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

We would have had 2 options. 1) self fund the rest of it and go as planned with deliveries... or 2) issue refunds and move on with our lives.

If we couldn't raise more than $75k I likely would have moved on with my life and patted myself on the back for trying. But it would feel like there wasn't product market fit and I would just accept that.

[–]TunaBoo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't the terms you agree to when you sign up for Indiegogo say that if you reach the goal, you should try to deliver? Not reach the goal and cancel because you didn't reach twice the goal? Pretty sure they would not be happy with that kind of gaming..

[–]dandemsky[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe that's true. Perhaps that would reflect really badly on me. I'm just telling you what we did. And we did it in hopes of being successful (more than $75k).

If we weren't successful I would feel like shit and I would hope my announcement that we decided to cancel and refund everyone would be understood. Or I would cough up the money maybe. It's hard to say.

But we did achieve what we needed. And we did deliver. I'm just speaking from my experience and laying it out there.

[–]bealist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for your candor. I think your experience reveals a flaw in the crowdfunder's "success" measures. Speed of reaching total funding - while great to incentivize, because there's nothing like momentum to build more momentum - is obviously not ideal, for exactly the reason you've demonstrated; it can be gamed (and may even have to be) in order to be successful.

I like how you had phases of goal: 30k was base-launch; 75k was true seed; 300k was water and sun. You needed all of it, as does everyone.

Lowering total goal could even be detrimental to an effort, as experienced crowdfunders would probably know that there was no way 30k was going to prototype and ship a full set of brand new clothing units. You probably got them by running a very fluid, responsive and visibly evolving campaign, and I'd guess many of them came on after you were well over your 30k mark.

I don't think you were dishonest. What you REALLY did was "realize" (intuited may be a better word) you needed 100k of advertising revenue, and you were only going to get that with initial comp revenue, and THAT was only going to come through a high close-percentage reward, so you chose a very modest goal, and ensured that reaching it brought in the "matching funds" that turned that 30k into the 60-75 you needed.

So, good on you for having an initial budget that included that comped ad revenue, and doing the work to make it so!! (By the way, 50.00 for a set of Merino wool undies that last for years is WAY worth it; good job!!!)

[–]DontLetItSlipAway 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My campaign is planed to launch next month. I have read a lot of posts against early bird discount, did you have any hesitation for using early bird discounts? What are your thoughts on shipping groups. Aka, first 500 get product in 5 months, and so on ?

[–]resto 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How did you chose and make the design for the clothing? Did you have prior experience or is there some sort of template in Chinese favorites?

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can write a whole other post on that. We made our own designs. I'll maybe make a post about that one day. But it was a long loooong process. But we knew what we wanted. No previous experience. But we figured it out.

[–]Hes_A_Fast_Cat 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is one of the best posts I've seen on this subreddit, says a lot about this place that it has so few upvotes.

Did you expect your average order price to be $182?

[–]burbasoree 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you test the market for your business before crowdfunding? What do you do to make you believe that your business will be successful?

[–]dandemsky[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Crowdfunding was our test of the market. Now we have our own web store knowing that we found product market fit because of crowdfunding!

[–]zipiddydooda 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thanks for writing this. I did a small ($20k) crowdfunding campaign for an album I subsequently recorded in 2013. It was successful but fucking stressful. The individual video idea is brilliant and I'd imagine won't get played out since it takes an enormous amount of effort - more than most people would be willing to put in. Congratulations on your three successful businesses thus far and your success to date with Unbound. If you write a book, I'll buy that book.

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm writing one! It's not about business though!.. It's a travel related book. It'll be free though! A small, helpful, fun book.

Thanks for reading this!

[–]bealist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ok. How to follow you? Facebook?

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya! facebook.com/unboundmerino

But sign up to our mailing list on our website and you'll get the book when it's done. Likely in the summer! Thanks so much man!!

[–]abnico123 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good shit man, keep up the good work

[–]Robobvious 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

My biggest question in all honesty and complete seriousness is how are you getting people to pay $70 for two pairs of boxer briefs? That's fucking insane to me. I mean you're some sort of genius clearly, that is astounding to me.

I want to be really clear that this isn't meant to be some sort of dig at you, I am literally in awe that you're selling your product at that price point successfully.

[–]dandemsky[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not a genius. You just have to try these boxers!

In fact, DM me your address and boxer size. I'll send you a pair to try out if you're in the US or Canada. Then you'll know why they're $70 for 2 pairs!

Having said that, the material itself is really expensive. It's not like cotton or modal. It's more in the realm of cashmere, and higher end materials just cost more. Once you try our boxers briefs, it's hard to go back to anything else. You'll see man!

If anyone else is reading this, we aren't giving free samples haha. Only to this guy.

[–]Robobvious 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn you're a good salesman. I'll PM you.

Edit: And for anyone curious, set up a remindme and I'll update this post to let you know how they are.

[–]startsmall_getbig 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where did you learn about the material+

[–]conundrum4u2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the post - I think I may finally have to take the dive

[–]howayis 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish I'd known this about 4 weeks ago!

[–]jamisteven9 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Apologies if this has been asked already: 1. What's your demographic? 2. New product once women's line is up and monetizing: baby swaddles. Thank me later!

If this were my company the domain would be "nadsneverfeltsogood.com - just saying.

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha. Our demographic is people like myself and my partners. Tends to be entrepreneurs and minimalists.

[–]SoulofZendikar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Read the whole thing. Thank you. Fantastic information in here. Don't be surprised if I try to take advantage of your offer to help out of the blue! :)

[–]KarlJay001 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

That's for an awesome post, quite a read. I'm interested in many parts of this, but I'll stay focused on one area.
Advertising:

You said: " $20,000 in the first 48 hours. This was 95% friends, family and acquaintances" I have to say that this won't help most people. Getting 20K in sales more so with pre-sales, from friends in 48 hours is one hellva friends network. Given that it's for a single specialized product, that's really huge.

Anyways, you didn't get into the details of the ads. Where were they run, what format were they? You got orders from all those different nations, did you run global ads and on what platform?

The most valuable thing in that ad run seems to be your list, how'd you build up a list like that and how many were on the list? What was the response rate (email / actual buys)? I hear most email lists are single digit returns.

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Didn't have a list. We hired Command Partners and they took care of the ads completely. We gave them photos and some messaging. They designed the ads and pushed them through their network.

As for my friends network. It's pretty good - but I made hundreds of videos personalized to people to get support. So yes - good group of guys and ladies..... But also, fuck tons of work. It's not like I posted on Facebook asking for support and got 20k in pre-orders. I spent weeks reaching out to people. Following up. Asking them to support. It's an ugly job. But it worked. And I am forever indebted to all those people who dished out $100+ to help a friend / acquaintance

[–]bealist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think the individual videos are great. I'm going to do that. I can see making them weeks in advance.

I can also see adding a little blurb at the end that says "hey, we're gonna need your custom size info in order to place our first order, and indiegogo doesn't let us do that, so BE SURE to follow our Facebook page after you pledge so we can get personalization info as soon as we're ready to order" or something like that. Would that have helped?

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's a good idea! But it would be limited to friends and family. Once people we didn't know started ordering we wouldn't have that same info. What we did do is send out a google survey to the first 500 customers and used those results as a benchmark for our larger order. Which didn't end up being accurate and caused problems but it was better than stalling everything for an extra couple months or however long it would have been to get all the surveys.

[–]bealist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like an opportunity for a little in-app app here - maybe a perks details thing that people fill out whenever they make a pledge-for-goods that says "if you could order this now, what size/color/etc would you choose?" and a "how likely is this to change between now and when we are ready to ship your perk?"

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It should be chosen at purchase! It's insane that it's not already built in!

[–]juugaez 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you used crowdfunding to get to your goal of creating this business, which is pretty much branding and a bit of customizing, since I would assume that the blueprint for clothing already exists; it just needs to be in merino wool (which is pretty damn comfortable in its own right).

Damn, talk about getting shit done with no excuses.

Thank you for your post and congratulations on another successful business.

[–]fredstyle 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi Dan, it is a great post and full of infos that I actually needed. I didnt know that the backers cant customize their order. I have a question; The campaign that I have been planning for two weeks is actually based on customization (art project where I need name/some info). Is there any other way I can get these infos during their order ? Like creating a survey during the campaign and linking on the campaign page?

A real Thanks for the informations!

[–]RealRizzo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely amazing post.

For someone who was considering crowdfunding, this is a very helpful and inspiring read.

Thank you and I wish you all the success in the world!

[–]joshsolano 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How did you come up with your true goal of $75,000? And what's the reason why the business couldn't be launched with $30,000?

Just wondering how you came up with these figures. Really awesome post though, I plan on crowdfunding before launching my business also.

One more question, where did you come in contact with your advertising agency?

Thanks!

[–]Slooki 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Great post, Dan!

Thanks!

[–]MicAntCha 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is great. Thank you very much!

Excellent timing for me too, as I'm about to go through this whole thing myself with a backpack I've designed. I think you're information is really going to help make the process a lot smoother.

[–]stevethealpaca 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for sharing!

[–]Joeviwat123 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for the info Dan. I'm going to try your video technique even though my business is completely different than you but that was a good eye-opener. Also your video is funny as hell.

[–]pingucat 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

fantastic writeup, thanks!

[–]resto 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you started your first business, what made you make the choice to do it?

Did you have a business/Entreprenuer background?

How did you maintain its success?

I guess my question is, how do you start an ad agency, a phone skin company, a sock company, and a shirt company when I (assume) you are not an expert in at least some of these fields. You would have to be a product designer, a fashion designer, an expert in phone skin materials, etc...

What's the process?

[–]TurboMP 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very informative write-up. I have no desire to sell a product or crowd source anything... but I still read your whole damn thing for reasons I don't understand. Well done. Glad things have worked out so well for you.

[–]xrobotx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

  • How did you promote your indiegogo campaign ?

[–]dandemsky[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You mean, outside of all the ways we promoted it that I wrote about above?

[–]Flyslovenc 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Really great and inspiring post. :)

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for reading!

[–]Raggos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Awesome read, had my ass sitting & sipping coffee all the way through!

One question: Regarding packaging and shipping the product, have you considered with already having a "done" product that only needs a label? I.e. socks in their own small box, shirt in bigger box, & the only thing you'd need to do is toss all the products into an even bigger box and ship it to customers?

In a way, isn't it better to have your manufacturer do all the packaging very neatly & another warehouse-solutions that handles everything else? having free hands to "handle" the business instead of the merchandise gives better steering options as the captain imho.

Greetings from Europe!

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's the one decision I just can't seem to make yet. There are huge pros and cons to both shipping everything ourselves (what we do currently) and to having a 3rd party logistics warehouse do it all for us. Right now, I'm not convinced a 3PL is for us. More expensive, less interaction with our own product (I like to see it and inspect it often) and I can't write personal notes and throw them in the box.

I get the pros of a 3PL also. But I'm not yet convinced it's the right choice for us.

[–]bealist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Quality control possible when you're doing it yourself is really vital in the early stages. What if you have to switch manufacturers and you're already using 3PL? And once you ARE ready to do that you can probably find a local service so it's more overseeable no matter what arises.

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya I would want to find one in the US though since 80% of our customers are in the US and we want to ship USPS instead of Canada Post. Right now a 3PL is more of a headache than an opportunity.

[–]younggod 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bravo, very insightful write up! I am in the process of finding a manufacturer for athletic socks. Do you have any suggestions or pointers for negotiating with manufacturers from China?

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The best thing is to meet them in person. If that's not an option - at the very least convince them that you'll be loyal. In my experience I sense that they always think I'll leave them for cheaper manufacturers. So it makes a huge difference when they believe you're in it for the long haul.

Oh, and be careful with quality assurance. Make sure you hire a 3rd party QA company to inspect product quality before putting it in a shipping container. We're paranoid so we fly to China and inspect ourselves. But if that's not an option - be paranoid in another way. People get ripped off all the time. Don't let it happen to you.

[–]vernazza 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Saved it for a later read, but a quick customer feedback: you're shooting yourself in the very foot you're making socks for by offering exclusively ankle socks. People who know the value of Merino are more often than not outdoorsy types and these won't cut it even for lighter hiking shoes.

Going exclusively for the boat shoes crowd hitting up the Platja in Barcelona looks like leaving money on the table to me.

[–]dandemsky[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mid size and full length socks coming out in a few weeks! Thanks for the feedback man! You're totally right. It's just what we launched with.

[–]hoho86 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for doing open book style, it's good to read.

[–]GifACatBytheToe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

hey..!

I'm a dbrand customer! That is sweet.

congratulations on all of your success.

[–]Treme 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

From Toronto too! Awesome! Great work!

[–]Kinettely 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great quality post! Thanks a lot for sharing!

[–]sick_gainz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thanks for writing this.

[–]dandemsky[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

My pleasure! How sick are your gainz these days?

[–]sick_gainz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

In my professional career, they have been sick, but I want to start up my own business. Have you ever had experience with making patents?

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

None. Sorry! Sick gainz bro!!

[–]geniosi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You could use everything you just typed up as a source for video content and get people to sign up to watch it. Probably the most in depth description I've read (or seen).

And exactly the type of info I'm looking for when I want to read people's success stories.

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I were trying to sell courses on this stuff I would. But I'm just happy to contribute what I've learned to reddit. I learn so much on reddit myself that it's nice to contribute what I've learned from my experience. Thanks for reading!

[–]papajohn56CEO, Direct Outbound 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're always happy to help with your fulfillment - and make it cost less with our contract rates.

[–]tresct___ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Incredible post! Thank you for taking the time and sharing these insights, they are super helpful.

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for reading! Glad it's helpful!

[–]natdogg 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dan, thank you so much for the detailed post. Do you or anybody else reading this post have insight into shipping costs? I am planning a crowd funded product that is both large and heavy...If I go through the regular usps shipping calculator, my costs are astronomical. Any way to figure true shipping costs, say if you were to have 3000 orders?

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was a clusterfuck for us leading up to the campaign. I ended up using a company called chit chats, which is basically a service that takes our orders daily from Canada to Niagara Falls, New York. This way we can ship USPS instead of Canada Post. We get all the shipping prices using stamps.com. We weigh, measure and pick delivery service and it feeds out the pricing and we print the labels. The only way to know the shipping cost is to know the weight and measurements and know the service you want / where you're shipping to. Maybe go into the post office with the measurements and have someone there help you figure out pricing. Then call UPS / FedEx / DHL etc and get the same info and compare. Most importantly, figure out the actual process of how shipping will work. USPS for us is so simple and easy to print a label that's pre-paid postage, but other services are so much paperwork - it's insane. So we avoid them for now but are looking into FedEx and UPS for international orders IF we can figure out how to automate the shipping process a bit so we don't need to fill out tons of paperwork by hand.

Definitely spend time to figure this out in advance and physically go through the motions of filling orders so you can get perspective on how long each order takes to fill. For us it's 12 minutes per order! It's not quick!

[–]ketosoy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am yet to hear a good reason why anyone would have a stretch goal.

Food manufacturing. Minimum run 10,000 units per flavor. Core goal is 30,000 units for two flavors, and new flavors get added every 15,000 units.

You're going to offer 6 flavors eventually, but by gating them you mitigate the risk.

Also, each milestone gives you a reason to email the list.

Not a sales tactic so much as an operations tactic.

I agree with you, Tchotchkes are dumb.

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can you show me an example? Would love to see it. I sort of get what you're saying but not fully.

[–]ketosoy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right now, no. But I can show you one in 5 or 6 months when ours is live.

[–]blackst0ne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's one amazing network of friends. It doesn't hurt that you already also have real positive reputation of 7 figure ventures, and not be seen as some pyramid scheme hustler or someone who can't pull it off.

A reputation like that is priceless.

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have spent my entire entrepreneurial life really trying to surround myself with smart and supportive people. You know the old saying 'you're the average of the 5 people closest to you'? I live my life by that. Having said that - so grateful for the support of friends. I can't ever take all that support for granted.

[–]HughJBawles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Great post. Thank you. Great work ethic and hustle. You also opened my eyes on a few things I didn't know. Appreciate it.

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Glad I can help huge balls!

[–]HughJBawles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The "J" stands for "Jayword." ;)

[–]HappyVillain 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have followed your company fairly closely. How have Facebook ads been working out for you? Also -- what has been your best sales channel post crowdfunding? Thanks!

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Word of mouth is the best for us.

We are toying with Facebook now. Check in with me in a month and I'll give you some real results on that. I believe it could be good - but I'm not sure.

[–]D3PO 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

How much did you spend up intill the indiegogo campaign?

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Very little. Less than $2k.

[–]D3PO 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wow, how was that possible with prototyping, getting samples, scouting in China, etc. I been thinking about manufacture a tool for Electricians, but i always thought that i would at least need 10-15k before i have anything in my hand.

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh - sorry. I left out the trip to China. Which was expensive.

All the money we spent was on product samples. It was close to $2k. We flew to China once we knew we were moving ahead with certain manufacturers.

[–]D3PO 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So that prototype phase goes for 2K. Thats just to have a product in your hand that you designed with other words.

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. That also includes some minor design work from a freelancer off fiverr, postage, etc. But mostly just the cost of getting a sample in hand.

[–]Stpstpstp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Was this including the 3-4 visits to China? All the samples back and forth?

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

NO!

All China trips were separate and self funded. I should have mentioned that.

[–]umib0zu 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What was your timeline? It sounds like you went from crowdfund start to crowdfund completion (ending in March ???), then 4 weeks to place the first order, then 4 months for product completion (ending in August ???), then a planned 2 months of fulfillment. I would love to hear how long all of this should take, especially on the crowdfunding end.

Also if you could go back, would you build an online shop before starting crowdfund efforts? I have seen a few companies do this and start taking orders before crowdfunding ends, and it sounds like a great strategy to get some capital before you place your first order, especially if you hit your crowdfund goals and you know your funds will be released.

[–]productivemodego 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

this is an amazing write-up! I have no intention (yet) of doing a crowdfunded campaign but this was super educational and very interesting. Thanks for the wonderful read.

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for reading!

[–]Stpstpstp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You mentioned setting the goal at 30k, but that you had already estimated that you needed at least 75k to be able to deliver.

What was your plan if you passed 30k, but didn't make 75k?

Do you feel that this was dishonest? Why or why not?

[–]dandemsky[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was just concerned with getting to $75k and that was one of our tactics. If we got to $30k and it ended there I would likely refund all the money with an apology note or video. If I got to $55k or so, I would likely throw in the rest of the money and give it a go.

I don't think it was dishonest for 2 reasons... 1) because the intention was to deliver product. If we couldn't deliver it, we would give all the money back. I'm just sharing this because it may be insightful to people here. We gamed the system a bit. And it made a difference we feel. That's our honest experience and I know that r/entrepreneur wants to know the real shit. This is our real story / experience.

reason 2) I'm being honest about what we really needed now! Believe me, nobody that backed us cares. They got there Unbound Merino gear and they're stoked! We delivered really high quality stuff to crowdfunding backers who are used to being disappointed a lot of the time.

[–]functi0nal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Great post! Can you share the name of the marketing team that you worked with? Loved the ROI breakdown and would like to have them on file for my next project.

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Command partners. You should use my breakdown in your initial conversation with them. We asked them to provide this info and they did.

[–]thesilvermoose 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unbelievable read! Thank you so much for sharing your story.

I'm curious as to how you validated your ideas in this business and your previous ones. Your figures are crazy - how do you scale your companies so fast???

Was there whole lot of research into finding your 'niches' by the way? In building clothing brands, how did you come up with design/branding?

Hopefully these aren't too broad but hey, it's worth a shot lol!

Thanks again for sharing your insight, I only aspire to achieve what you have one day!

[–]vtfan08 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The big mistake we made is we had no freaking idea how long it takes to package and ship a SINGLE order. And the main reason for that is because we didn’t have the ability to practice until we actually had our product to pick, pack, label and ship. Now our packaging is pretty nice and meticulous and maybe it’s a bit more elaborate than the average product shipment (we have a nice box, we assemble shirts, socks and underwear in the box, wrap in a paper and sticker shut… it’s nice and it takes a bit of time to put together) but nothing could prepare us for the reality of it taking 12-15 minutes to fully pack and ship a box.

Bro, did you not watch this scene from War Dogs?! Come on man!

In all seriousness though, this was an amazing write up. I plan on rereading it later, taking some notes and coming back with more questions. I'm also super interested in the product! As someone who loves traveling, loves to do a variety of activities, and sweats a lot, I'm definitely intrigued!

[–]dandemsky[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

HAHAHAH that's exactly what it felt like! Minus the saving of $3MIL. I remember sitting down with the founder of dbrand breaking down the mechanics of our fulfillment and him tapping away at a calculator and being like "15min per package with 2 people, maybe you can get it down to 10 after a couple weeks. 16 hour days with 2 shifts, 7 days a week will take ____ long and cost _____". Like same tone. Same deal. No Afghan army got bullets though. Just some people getting t-shirts and underwear for their traveling. Love that clip. Brings back horrible memories.

[–]sixmann 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Long read, but honestly it was really worth it. Thanks for sharing your experience. As someone who's in a similar situation you were in before, I found this really relevant.

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for reading!

[–]24backstabMcNugget 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you were 18 right now, what would you do?

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would read a lot, and experiment with LSD. Don't fuck up your 20's though. I think people waste their 20's 'having fun'. I worked every single day of my 20's and had insane amounts of fun doing it. Use your 20's to just do your own thing, try to build your own business. It gets harder as you get older because you end up getting married and having bills and shit. In fact - may as well start now! But definitely go see phish and try acid.

[–]Shayco 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dbrand is such a simple but great idea. And if i may ask how much did making the site cost?

[–]inventurous 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Excellent post. Thanks for taking the time to make it well worth mine!

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad to hear you enjoyed it!

[–]kevino14 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for posting this, love the tip about sending individual video messages to your friends!

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes an enormous impact!

[–]vexa27 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Great information! I just placed an order through your website.

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for the support. What's your order #?

[–]michaelschoe [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thanks for posting this. Very inspiring to read!

[–]LilSnives 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Awesome, awesome, awesome stuff. Thank you so much!

[–]dandemsky[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My pleasure! Hope it helps in some way!

[–]SupaStud 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sitting here in Miami as I take a couple days before I go to Cuba in a subpar Minus 33 shirt with an ugly logo, remembering how much it sucked to have holes appear in one of my OTHER Minus 33 shirts on another trip (which has subsequently been sent back for a warranty claim).

Sounds like I really should have found a way to work around your fulfillment issues!

[–]ikindalike -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really inspiring story, thank you for sharing. I would love to model your merino shirts once the women's line is out!

[–]AlphaQ69 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Commenting for later!