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Half time discussion (self.reddevils)

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[–]martialreignBlind 91 ポイント92 ポイント  (31子コメント)

I'm sorry but this is absolutely shocking. We are offering nothing going forward, the passes are too square, there is such little movement and Zlatan is sitting far too deep. It's got the point where our attacks are so predictable and slow.

I also think that De Gea has been poor, he should've been coming out to claim the ball to prevent the goal in my opinion. Last thing, I'm not usually one to criticise our fans, but recently the atmosphere has been shocking at home and today is no different.

[–]PM_ME_UR_HORNY_PICS 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You can watch and predict where all the passes are going, absolutely shocking

[–]englishman321 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

was just thinking this, theres not creativity, atleast with pogba he was dinking balls into ibra, nows it pass, pass, pass intercept.

[–]YungyubankRashford 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hardly putting anything through. We need to make some runs, Lingard and Young are the only ones looking lively. Zlatan has been awful.

[–]epic_weaselHerrera 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rashford playing like a second striker doesn't help, especially with such a conservative leftback like Blind. Needs to make runs in the wider areas and stop drifting so central, open up the space some more for Zlatan/Ander/Fella

[–]Dunkaegon 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair to the supporters, the players are not giving them much to cheer about.

[–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the last couple of months in particular, the amount of good balls across the box that no one gets on the end of is infuriating. Not one of our players ever makes the run to the far post. That can be the difference. It's especially annoying when 3 or 4 of our players wait for a pull back with not one of them thinking "Maybe it will go across the box"

[–]LifeNubMkhitaryan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our movement off the ball is horrible. Most times there's only 1 pass available and we're forced to go sideways or backwards. We need Mkhi on.

[–]TurdFurgersonn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Completely agree but De Gea is allowed to be poor once in a while. Defenders other than Bailly are just shocking though but it's not unexpected.

Fellani needs to come off, offering nothing. Herrera has not been great and Carrick only stepped up at the end of the half.

Also I have huge admiration and hopes for Rashford but as it is right now he can't finish a sentence.

[–]martialreignBlind 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah I completely agree with what you have said. I think Pogba and/or Mkhi need to come on soon because at least they aren't as predictable and one dimensional as the rest of this team.

[–]TurdFurgersonn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Too true. Also I have been very harsh to Lingard all season because I just don't feel he's up to the standards, but my god at least he works hard! He's definitely made me reconsider lately but surrounded by this midfield he look like the second coming of Messi playing with some 5 a side players we found outside the stadium.

[–]martialreignBlind 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've always been a massive fan of Lingard and I'm glad that others are starting to see it as well. He always puts in 100% and never gives up. I would take this over a player that is more technically gifted, but doesn't work hard any day.

[–]TurdFurgersonn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And of course I'm happy to be wrong and would love to eat my words on Lingard! And you're completely right about working hard there. What I really like is that despite nobody looking like they can help him at the moment, he's continuing to push. Just hope he doesn't get too discouraged but who could blame him?

[–]availableusername10Beckham 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That post on the sub a couple of days ago about our flaws in the final third have never been clearer to me. Literally everyone is just dicking around standing in front of their back four, save for the occasional run in behind by Rashford (which has yielded our best chances - albeit one that was offside). Otherwise, Young will get the occasional cross in but Zlatan will be too far behind the play because he is dropping deep all the time and the rest of our players are god knows fucking where.

[–]ibaRRaVzLaJosé Mourinho 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's almost as if we're playing our most mediocre players

[–]hardgour 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely no movement without the ball. It's like everyone is just waiting for a cross and not a single one is looking for something more creative

[–]IDespot90Jose Mourinho 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And out corners are by far biggest joke of any team in premier league.

[–]ToneDiezUNLUCKY NUMBER S7EVIN 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That late cross by Young from the right across the face of goal was a prime moment for me. We had a very similar situation against West Brom, I believe Lingard was crossing the ball, and NO ONE rushed the box. I was screaming at how these players seem to lack the basic football IQ to know that when the ball goes out to the wing like that, you HAVE to crash that box because a cross IS coming. People may have thought, "if Zlatan was on the pitch he would have buried that". Same situation today, Zlatan was sitting so deep and showed absolutely zero effort to push forward to get on the end of that cross. Again, numerous wasted chances because the players just don't look up to it.

[–]martialreignBlind 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sums up most of my thoughts as well, there is such little urgency in our team. No one is busting a gut to get on the end of crosses, it's infuriating.

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    [–]epic_weaselHerrera 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Lol bang fucking average.

    [–]PM_ME_UR_HORNY_PICS 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Midfield non existent

    [–]PoppinKREAMZlatan 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Pogba pls

    [–]ThadderfulRooney 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Carrick's mobility is a bit of an issue. Plus his major draw is that he can circulate it and look for good passes through and over the top. When we have a relatively static front man and mediocre wingers that nullifies pretty much all of Carrick's attacking help.

    Fellaini is not good enough to be part of a two man midfield for Manchester United, neither technically nor physically considering how tall he is.

    [–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    On another hand, Tom Davies looks a talent.

    [–]ibaRRaVzLaJosé Mourinho 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What are you on? Fellaini's creativity surpasses even Scholes'

    [–]apparex1234Mkhitaryan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Even an underperforming Pogba adds to this team. Even when shit he can create a few good chances. Without him we look BAD

    [–]W0rsleyRafael 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    I actually hate it when we play at Old Trafford recently, atmostphere is even more dreadful than usual and we don't perform, really can't see us getting CL unless we win the EL.

    [–]robbo_6Cantona 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    The atmosphere is dreadful because the football is uninspiring. It's hard to get excited by misplaced passes and under-hit crosses and corners.

    [–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I find the slow reactions to second balls the most annoying, as though some of our players think they are allowed all the time in the world

    [–]GonzoXIManUtdScholes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And going lackluster in to 50/50 balls

    [–]W0rsleyRafael 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    To an extent but it goes both ways, if we are going all game being out sang by the away fans then it goes beyond the football being played, especially when you consider how great our away support is and the football being played isn't drastically different.

    [–]Zvcx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The home fans want to be entertained, this has always been the case. The last few home games could've put people to sleep.

    [–]SeasickSykesNemanja New Wave 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    By any chance do you go to more European games than PL?

    European atmosphere is known to be worse because there are more travelling fans rather than mostly ST holders, and therefore aren't as used to chanting.

    [–]W0rsleyRafael 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Can barely afford to go to a few matches at Old Trafford a season mate never mind European games. I know we don't have the best atmosphere at Old Trafford but it is usually better when we play the bigger teams or have important games, has just seemed a bit worse lately.

    [–]SeasickSykesNemanja New Wave 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That's cool , i appreciate that, I'm not having a go lad btw, in just curious, as a lad from work is an ST holder and he says PL games are usually rocking that's all, but I can only manage European games as a member and non st, and the atmosphere is often pretty dull unless we're smashing it.

    Never trust the tv also, mic placement from the broadcast team can dictate a lot of what you hear.

    [–]W0rsleyRafael 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah no problem didn't think you were man and I see where you are coming from, I agree the football being played does make a big difference in the atmosphere, like you mentioned the mics it is probably a mixture of different things.

    [–]Waaalty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    If you're so bothered about the atmosphere, why don't you get down to OT?

    [–]W0rsleyRafael 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Stupid argument.

    [–]Kiddcohen39Herrera 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We're fucking wank.

    [–]Andy0401Herrera 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Maybe David Moyes was right about Jagielka...

    [–]Kambei1311 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    David Moyes is/was a very good evaluator of talent.

    [–]Dunkaegon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not Rio or Vidic, but Rojo could definitely do with watching one of his videos today.

    He has been bullied all game so far.

    [–]DarkSofterBIG DAVE TO THE RESCUE 91 ポイント92 ポイント  (18子コメント)

    I know this sub is filled with negativity at the moment, but the truth is i feel absolutely hopeless watching this team play

    [–]johncenatbh 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Its not hopeless, its the fucking opposite, i have huge hopes but it always fails because of poor finishing, we have a total of 3 losses, we've been great at everything except finishing, we create chances we have a good defence, but we cant finish for shit.

    I know we're gonna get a great chance but we always fuck up, which is the most furstrating thing ever

    [–]DarkSofterBIG DAVE TO THE RESCUE 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    yeah i've always had hope thinking that we are just unlucky not scoring goals, but that happening 20 times this season made me realise our strikers are utter shit at finishing

    [–]Count__Duckula 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We always give the keeper the chance to save a shot that for me is bad finishing.

    Never a tap in, players not moving in the box, noone gambling at the back post. We're so shite.

    [–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The rub of the green really isn't coming off for us and that's what makes this so frustrating.

    Before anyone loses their shit with me, I'm not excusing the finishing or lacklustre play going forward. But because we are better than we have been for about three seasons it just makes it feel so much more like we've been unlucky, which is causing me major blueballs when it comes to goals.

    I know that it obviously isn't down to luck, but the number of chances we've had that have been saved or missed just makes the fact that we're not winning that much more excruciating.

    It feels like I should be able to be bragging about how well we're playing, but I fucking can't because we're not winning and it's outstandingly frustrating. That sentence doesn't really make sense, but then neither does this team.

    [–]MrBenLadScholesy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm sorry but it's more than that sometimes, Herrera's shot was just because there was fuck all support and no-one making any dangerous runs. We are creating almost chances.

    We look totally abysmal on the ball too, we need to get Pogba and Mkhi on now

    [–]datguywilson 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Agreed, we have control of the match. I'm sure we will score eventually

    [–]MrBenLadScholesy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is total bullshit, if passing it sideways around the back for 45 minutes and getting countered and conceding a goal counts as having control then I fucking give up.

    We are playing shit.

    [–]Zvcx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Great at everything? I disagree, we're very easy to play against at the moment. There's no attacking threat.

    [–]johncenatbh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Im talking overall in the season, we've been great at everything, there are matches when we are shit its true, but overall, great at everything but finishing, top defense, a lot of chances created, we dont concede to many goals, we dont lose matches, we draw because we cant finish.

    [–]BBQ_HaX0rStannis the Mannis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Herrera and Blind both should have a goal. Those weren't 'poor finishes' those were great saves. We either fuck up the shot or the keeper makes an incredible save. I kinda want this season over with it.

    [–]Not_wun_wun -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You lot need to to zip it with the finishing complaints. We don't just finish poor. We play poor. Everything about our all round attacking play for the last several games has been abysmal.

    [–]johncenatbh 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If we're poor on attack we wouldnt have the 2nd most chances created in the league, are u blind or what, we miss chances, it has been happening all season, of course im gonna complain

    [–]Ogard 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Hopeless was Moyes, this is just frustrating.

    [–]Count__Duckula 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Still more hope than under LVG too..at least we're creating chances even if we bottle them.

    This is mou's first season so he deserves time..but I would expect significant improvement next season

    [–]ToneDiezUNLUCKY NUMBER S7EVIN 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm told I'm a negative person often...I feel like I'm more realistic, almost to an extreme, rather than cynical. It's not my fault reality can be dark at times. It's not that I'm never optimistic, but things can't always be sunshine and rainbows...and the way United has been playing lately does nothing to inspire optimism. Realistically, we're still a ways away from being title contenders. Not that you can't be optimistic about the club's future, but the present reality is pretty poor.

    [–]PoppinKREAMZlatan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I really hope we make some subs and they make an impact. We need to start finishing our chances

    [–]Deo97Blind 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As hard a game as this is to watch i feel much better watching this team than LvG last season personally

    [–]godslefthand1 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I love lingard's effort.

    [–]mrpiggywinkles52Herrera 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He and Hererra are the only ones that can hold their heads high

    [–]Dunkaegon 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Which is the only positive so far.

    Mourinho's public criticism of individuals is clearly not helping morale much.

    [–]Disco_Volante416 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Get In the damn box and on the end of those crosses for fuck sake!

    [–]Willszz1De Gea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's funny they seem to stand there whilst Carrick has the ball and then once Young has it on the wing they have all ran out the box

    [–]CraftySpastic 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    No way we score 2 in 45 minutes.

    [–]AngryUncleTonyValencia 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We haven't scored in 135 so why start now?

    [–]buddyhollybenhur 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Who is this invisible player Zlatan keeps passing to?

    [–]kakikakikakikaki 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's at least trying to make some shit happen while everyone else just safe passes.

    [–]PM_ME_UR_HORNY_PICS 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    His last flick to rashford was good tho

    [–]ParkerZAYoung 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lol a couple times he just passed it to an Everton player.

    [–]McGriftyBüttner - 1 Gerrard - 0 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Sub in Chicharito

    [–]conormizen_98 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Blind's crossing is horrendous

    [–]AngryUncleTonyValencia 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Good free kick though.

    [–]Set-Abominae 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's also the slowest player in the team. Shaw needs to get his shit together asap.

    [–]harryarchereWazza 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Doesn't feel like i'm watching professionals play.

    All the players seem frustrated with each other.

    Maybe one or two good flashes of quality but overall it feels so dry.

    [–]vincent1989Valencia 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Football teams of England. Is your goalkeeper under performing? Is he low of confidence? Are you worried he's just average? Well fear not! Here at the theatre of dreams we can help. Just one session needed and he'll be performing like lev yashin! With our patented procedure of poor finishing, and a special blend of bad luck he'll be performing in no time. GUARANTEED

    [–]thesonglessbirdScholes 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Plus, starting season 2016/2017, get one free point with every visit!

    [–]lestat85De Gea 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Fuck me, how many times do we have to play a Fellaini and Carrick midfield before we realise it's never going to break down any defence.

    [–]daniam1Shaw 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not much choice with Pogba not match fit.

    We sold Bastian and Morgan...

    [–]AngryUncleTonyValencia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Until we have healthy bodies...Pogba is coming back and Basti + Morgan are gone.

    [–]Dunkaegon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sidelining them for half the season before selling them does not look particularly well-thought out.

    [–]lestat85De Gea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We've willingly played wingers at full back, full backs at centre back, strikers on the wing etc etc etc, but apparently centre mid is sacred and we have to stick to the same rigid and ineffective players game after game.

    And it's not just a matter of moving players around, youth are a feasible alternative when the first choice players show as little invention or even passion as Fellaini has these past few games.

    [–]scholeszzMkhitaryan -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Herrera is clueless in the attacking role as well. Lingard is doing both their jobs.

    [–]REVOL7Beckham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fellaini has been playing higher up than Herrera no?

    [–]NostrabrahmusJose Mourinho 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    We are horrible. We've been bad for 4 months.

    [–]Kambei1311 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Nah, we're okay.

    We're not world beaters or anything but we're a decent enough team. We've pulled back a ridiculously large points deficit to the teams above us and have stalled against West Brom and Everton during a disrupted period.

    It's not great, but it's not shamefully dreadful.

    [–]ParkerZAYoung 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Horrible, no ideas, no chemistry, looks like they've never played together before. Jose better cut the shit and put Miki and Pogba on.

    [–]MrBenLadScholesy 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Fellaini in midfield offers absolutley nothing to be able to penetrate through the midfield, no-one is offering anyone any type of support, no creativity, no quality, it's abysmal to watch, wtf are we doing, this is Van Gaal fotball, a load of shit sideways passes, no-one doing anything useful. Get Pogba, Mkhi and Martial on now Mourinho!!!

    [–]BBQ_HaX0rStannis the Mannis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    When in doubt Blame Fellaini. Where has Carrick been the past two months? Where the fuck are our wide men? Fellaini isn't having as good of a game as he head over the weekend, but there's more issues than the big guy.

    [–]theangrycamelr/kpopgfys 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Nothing we say now should be considered 'reactionary'. Lul.

    [–]Kambei1311 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's a grossly misused word. People need to check the dictionary.

    On a sidenote, it's only half time.

    [–]getemon 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Absence of a player like Mata clearly obvious.

    [–]Shnay 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Oddly familiar to the last few years. 3 managers in 4 years and you can't say the football is very different. It's going to be a hard pill to swallow but in some shape or form most of these players aren't top quality.

    [–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    you can't say the football is very different

    If you honestly believe that I don't know what to say to you.

    LvG's football was far far more tepid than this, and that was a marked improvement on the utter gash that Moyes had us playing.

    [–]Shnay 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Would you describe this first half as anything more than tepid? Come on.

    [–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It's absolutely tepid, but that doesn't put it anywhere near the level of a lot of LvG's games.

    [–]Shnay 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's why I said, overall, the football is not much different. Better than LVG? Sure. Overall? Not very good.

    [–]eyeballer94 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rashford has offered absolutely nothing!

    [–]Bacon_BoobiesRashers 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Youngy needs to stop trying to take everyone on.

    [–]jpmoutRooney 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He wouldn't have to if everyone else wasn't static and he had someone to fucking pass to. Dreadful display, this.

    [–]TheRoyalGent 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Jesus lads.. happier that we have more away games currently. Only time we're looking positive in our play

    [–]TamseHerrera 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ander you have been missed!

    [–]i-Poker 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Can we all agree that the Rashford and Ibra camps should shut up, grow up and stop battling each other like petulant children..?

    [–]ArsenalFanTVFanTVSolskjær 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    fuck mirallas

    [–]rinilkvMata 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    ‪After an absolute shit of match against Liverpool, it's inevitable for Robles to have his performance of the season against us! ‬

    [–]Ketch1Herrera 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    He's made one save, mate. Stop deflecting from how shit we are.

    [–]KJ_on_Reddit 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's made two quality saves and also another top save despite the fact that Rashford was offside. We have been abysmal though no hiding that.

    [–]GonzoXIManUtdScholes 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Two amazing saves that have kept them ahead

    [–]red-17 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He made two great saves. Both were at full extension and almost exactly in the corner.

    [–]ParkerZAYoung 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Let's not go with that, the Rashford offside save was good but the rest are expected. It's piss poor that our chances are coming from long range.

    [–]availableusername10Beckham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    he's made like one good save that didn't even count since Rashford was offside

    [–]scholeszzMkhitaryan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Honestly those were just good saves, neither shot had enough power to trouble him. The save from Rashford was excellent (even though it was offside). I wouldn't call it an exceptional performance yet.

    [–]Qwertyasdfzxcv123De Gea -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Can we just quit this lol goalkeeper neuer xd shit? Our finishing was shit and he was barely tested.

    [–]PoppinKREAMZlatan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We need to FINISH

    [–]efribble 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    spineless first half performance

    [–]petterpkÆ vil heller walk elone 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As sad as it is I don't find myself surprised

    [–]KittensAreEvil 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's a joke how predictable we are.

    [–]deckofcards_Pogba 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There really is no difference to this team today since last season. It just feels the same, no creativity going forward at all.

    [–]zxnoregretzxzx 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How many times this season have we flashed a ball right across the face of goal and nobody even looks interested in getting to it?

    [–]marlkarx1917 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How long before we talk about and recognize Rashford is not good enough to start?

    [–]legojs 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I just don't understand, we're playing good football, but we're just not scoring. Horrible finishing. Do we not to shooting drills?

    [–]Willszz1De Gea 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I feel so sorry for Herrera, Fellaini and Carrick. They have absolutely nobody to pass to. Lingard and Rashford seem to not bother actually playing on the wing so we end up with all our attacking threats in one position.

    [–]Something_CheekyVan Persie 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Microphone off for pogs please. Hes offering nothing forward and we need that extra play maker to push things forward. Cmon lads

    [–]Xixak17 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Getting sick and tired of hearing that Mou is playing fluid attacking football, we look absolutely dire in attack. Toothless, inefficient and floundering.

    This is NO better than Van Gaal. People can keep pretending it is, but it's not. I don't care about chances created, the TYPE of chances you create matters as well.

    [–]klay01Playing football in the Busby way 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Jose very stubborn , why doesnt he drop Rashford and Lingard instead of Mickey and Martial?We also cant score a goal without a fucking player in the box

    [–]GonzoXIManUtdScholes 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Lingaard is playing well

    [–]klay01Playing football in the Busby way 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yes but perhaps one of them would offer more threat than Lingard?

    [–]Ogard -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Please, pretty please tell me what you people see in Miki? I haven't seen a good performance from him in months.

    [–]klay01Playing football in the Busby way 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well then we probably should just play with Lingard and see if we can win.

    [–]Ogard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I would rather sub someone else then Lingard, I mean it doesn't say much, but he has been our best offensive player on the pitch. I just don't see the love for Mikhi, I can't remember the last time he gave a game worthy half of the love he gets here, IMO besides the initial performances he has been very dissapointing.

    [–]Takley 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Pathetic.

    [–]AngryUncleTonyValencia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We don't know how to score.

    [–]fat_luke_shaw 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Embarrassing

    [–]sooshiViva! 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We are impotent

    [–]jbiresqHerrera 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What a shit half. How this team even has a shot at 4th is beyond me.

    [–]keving691Mkhitaryan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Our passing has been awful. Slow and leads to nothing. Crosses have been terrible too, just smashed into nowhere.

    [–]Melanjoly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We are fucking shit. Not one of our starting midfielders of defenders would get a game at Spurs, just another mediocre team playing mediocre football.

    [–]MalforianJose Mourinho 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We need a more mobile ST, look at what Lakaku can do against us

    We need a proper 10 in the game, noone with link up play or able to go past a player

    [–]ADMRVPBailly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think we are really better than last year. Sure we are better at creating chances but we're worse at finishing those chances. We look better but that doesn't mean anything because we aren't better when you look at the table.

    [–]stats193Martial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Slow stodgy predictable football with no chemistry up top

    hope we makes 3 subs at half time

    [–]VazinhoRashford 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sick of all the miracle saves, balls hitting the woodwork and shit finishing.

    [–]summerincassiopeia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't get me wrong, he's been pretty decent, but when Young has been our best player for almost 2 games then there's a problem.

    [–]robinvpercyPercy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Even in the dark period (2003-2006), we still played better than right now.

    [–]SonnyisKing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    lmao that was a lean period not a dark period.

    This awful shit post 2013 is a "dark" period, I'm fucking sick of it, especially the lack of desire from players and a manager who looks depressed.

    [–]Dunkaegon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    We always finished in the top three and won the cups in the 'dark period'.

    Gladly trade for that right now.

    [–]robinvpercyPercy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's my opinion, I means "dark period" in Sir Alex era. He didn't win the EPL for 3 years in a row, which his worst timein Man United since 92. This time we still had won some titles like FA Cup. Of course that was just little thing if comparing what he achieved.

    [–]GonzoXIManUtdScholes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This game is screaming for Pogba instead of Felli

    [–]PastaBoy420The Scorpion King 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fellaini needs to come off for mkhi, not contributing much today

    [–]deenymeeny 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    There's a giant hole in the attacking half. Ibra keeps having to fall back to cover for the lack of an attacking center mid and that leaves the box empty. You can't have a midfield of Carrick, fellaini and Herrera because none of them can properly fill that hole.

    [–]deenymeeny 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fellaini is somewhat filling that role but he really just isn't any good at it. Since there's no Mata you need mhki or pogba to jump in to the midfield. If you throw pogba on, Herrera can move up. Otherwise just have mhki play there

    [–]PrincessLeiasBuns 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Zlatan being Zlatan again. For every goal he scores he misses a few chances himself or doesn't pass it at the right time. And he's our only goalscorer this season :/

    [–]Not_wun_wun 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Mourinho seems to get the best out of his most limited players but not the best from the most talented ones. Worrying signs.

    [–]shawker6Fellaini 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So did Van Gaal.

    [–]Mayo4SamHard to believe its not Scholes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ibra and Fellaini aren't playing well. Fellaini is chasing too much in mid and Everton are just playing around him. You just need to contrast Lukakus performance with Ibra to see what we are missing. I know he is old be some runs in behind would open up the space in front of the everton back four. Everything is going to feet meaning Everton and close the space.

    Edit:

    Pogba for Fellaini, Mkhi for Lingard.

    [–]Mr_WilsonnHerrera 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Most of the time before the goal the player with the ball had no option to pass & sometimes didn't even have anyone in front of him for example when Young ran up the right.

    Attacking play is just non existent

    [–]evilvile 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just feels like a total lack of desire. Rashford is trying to grab the ball from the half way line and run it in but no one's thought of trying to get on the end of a cross?

    We've got quality and class in our team but tactically it feels over hashed and backwards.

    [–]HagarenoGary Neville 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    When you have mostly the same players as last seasons it looks very much like last season. If we want to move forward as a club we cant have Fellaini in midfield. We have to buy proper wingers as well. Love both Rashford and Lingrad but we need someone who is actually a natrual in those positions.

    Same problems in selection --> same results.

    [–]BigMonkeyBallsDon't fuck with this guy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I didn't have to wait until halftime to take a shit at least

    [–]batsugunZ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    we look fucking clueless why the fuck does 2/3rd of the team need 10 seconds to decide to pass or not?

    [–]RedDevilAK94 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I hate to say this.. but I think we need a draw

    [–]lovatt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Players seem far too frustrated with one another today, We have had some decent plays and we could easily be up this game. Keep positive lads!

    [–]GlassCoyote 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rashford has to come off. He's not making any runs & isn't bringing us anything going forward

    [–]WeAreVereorNox 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nearly every time we go forward, we go through herrera who then passes to young. Nothing comes of it, because no one is filling the space directly ahead of young and between herrera and zlatan.

    We need someone making a run across the backline to pull a defender from zlatan/fellaini so that early ball from young actually can find a man not being marked by the entirety of merseyside.

    We look toothless, every time everton goes forward they look lethal.

    what in the blazes has happened to our season.

    [–]iamthedanknessThe Wall 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I feel that there is absolutely no coherence in the team today. Not sure whether it's just the lineup or the tactics that we've been using. But it really does look like we're bang on average today up till this point. Am I the only one who feels like we've suddenly reduced the intensity of our pressing in today's game as compared to previous ones?

    [–]BronusSwagner 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What a pathetic attack. I'm at a loss for why Fellaini AND Carrick are playing, they are both so slow they destroy so many potential counter-attacks.

    All we do is possess the ball about 20-30 yards from goal, passing it back and forth, looking for an opening, before settling for a shitty cross. This is a prime example of a toothless LVG attack.

    [–]Qwertyasdfzxcv123De Gea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fellani shouldn't be starting, I know it's obvious but he offers fucking nothing

    [–]MagnehticMata 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I have no faith in this team at home. I fully expect to draw at best when at home. How can we be unbeaten in 19 games and I still genuinely expect to have to scrape a draw at home? I can't watch any more home games for the rest of the season. Even if we pull this back to get another fucking draw, I can't do it. Shit keepers turn into Manuel Neuer against us.

    Zlatan is a square peg in a smoking round meteor crater.

    [–]Ketch1Herrera 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just can't bear this anymore. How has nothing changed after months of being complete shite? We've regressed. We started the season playing decent attacking football but just not finding the net, we all were so confident the goals would come. Now what? We can't even carve out a half chance against a massively depleted Everton. How have we gotten consistently worse over the season?

    [–]shawker6Fellaini 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wanna know why Rashford got singled out by Jose? Cause he's an attacking player who hasn't scored a league goal since September...

    [–]jetsfan83 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is the second time that Rashford has a chance for an easy tap in on a cross but decided the go back towards the penalty spot .

    [–]MrD3athGiggsy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Can't decide if Zlatan has been awful, or if he's playing on a different level. Seems to be the only player wanting to take risks.

    [–]taocrasormHerrera 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I feel quite sick right now, let me guess we're going to celebrate another draw at Old Trafford. Fucking sick of watching us play. Hoping for huge improvement second half, bring on Mkhi for Lingard I'd say.

    [–]KeKaRoNifollows never first 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I miss that 'Mkhi is start!' post /u/JeanBouvais made. I wish it applied to this game.

    [–]Hatts13 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's like time stops whenever we get into the final third. No movement, no creativity. It's like players just expect the ball to be put to them on a silver platter I know it's difficult when a team parks the bus, but you adapt and develop. Our rigidity isn't doing us any favours, we need to make changes.

    And even when we get a chance, the finishing isn't authoritative. It's always enough for a keeper to save, we've got to do so much better and not allow the keeper to gain confidence.

    I was optimistic when the game started as we started well and even when the goal went in, but as the half went on it was just the same old story of our season so far. Hopefully Jose makes some subs and we salvage this game, but we've got to start that off by moving in and around the box!

    [–]WaffolaniDave Saves!!! 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I say it in pretty much every game lately - our movement off the ball, especially around the box, is utter shite. We are so static near the box, and we always are trying to receive the ball with our backs to goal. Makes it WAY TOO easy enough for defenders to swarm in and kill the move.

    You watch any other team, and you see so many more runs behind/across defenders from the best teams in the world - this is one of the main things we're missing. We're just so clueless when it comes to trying to break down defensive systems. We have the players - Mhki, Lingard, Rashford, Martial, Mata, etc can ALL run in behind teams with pace and guile and play quick one-touch football, and we see it maybe once a game. It's absolutely infuriating to watch.

    [–]just_roo_itRooney 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    we have absolutely bottled it. Absolutely bottled it. This is fucking embarrassing. These players are not good enough and I hope Jose clears the fucking lot.

    [–]timsadiq13 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Getting worse with each passing game is not a good sign.

    Behind Jose 100 percent but he's either got to get more out of these players, or clear out the vast majority of them in the summer. Whatever he wants them to do is not happening.

    Missing Pogba's creativity and physicality in the midfield for sure, but missing one player should not turn the team into a completely incoherent mess.

    [–]aymad 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We need some presence in the box, doesn't help that Ibra appears to be playing LB :/

    [–]mattmanutdKeane 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fellaini has been shocking. He is fucking phoning it in. Just jogging around in the middle, offering nothing offensively, and his passing was shit.

    [–]AteRiusz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    For some time Mourinho was defending himself with the offensive style, true - we were losing points but it really looked like we were cursed. Today we are maundering around the pitch, we look spiritless in everything we do, our attitude on Old Trafford is disgusting. And the worst is, same as in LVG era, it isn't even unexpected, I just got used to it and I'm not even mad.

    Not so long ago we would play with a high defensive line, we would switch positions all the time, the link up play was on point. And now? Long ball and hope for the magic to happen.

    I'm so sad.

    [–]longsightdon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Downvote ahead. Rashford is overrated. Jesus he doesn't belong on the pitch in his current state.

    [–]shawker6Fellaini 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Been poor all season.

    [–]aaaaand_its_gone -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    get fallani off..

    [–]freakedmindMar-See-Aal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He hasnt been too bad if you compare with the others

    [–]WalliiiRooney 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is the worst I've seen us play for quite some time, and that's saying a lot. Midfield is shit, attack is shit, and we let in some flukey goal allowing Everton to just sit back. Shit match already.

    [–]androidenthusiast08Tony 'The Tank' Valencia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    These types of games are just so frustrating, no wonder the fans at OT aren't chanting.

    [–]Ratovandermir 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Jagielka turned into Sergio Ramos, Robles in Buffon and Ibrahimovic in a deep lying playmaker. Things are good so far.

    [–]Ogard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ibra looks like he doesn't give a single fecal.

    [–]jorgelucas7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lingard playing his heart out.

    [–]DatGuyRichValencia Fanboy -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We are so predictable.

    You literally know what we are going to do when we go forward.

    Also, Zlatan is a hindrance. If we had a better alternative this would be obvious to all. If we're not going to play to his strengths he shouldn't be playing.

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