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Jesus christ, the shit i've seen in this sub.

I'll admit one thing, Ethan fucked up in a moment where youtubers are walking on thin ice, but to call him an hypocrite, a piece of shit and other ridiculous things i've seen in the comments?

People from /r/all are coming into this sub, posting toxic shit, and the fanbase is just going along with their posts. He made a mistake, apologized for it and removed the video. People are forgetting that this guy always have fought for the best of youtube despite all odds. Fupa, Ken Bone, Hugh Mungus, the racist shit and sexist shit on prank channels... and he makes this one slip up (a big one) and he's already the root of all evil.

the most ridiculous thing on this sub is people attacking him (out of nowhere) for not attacking JonTron. Jontron is a close friend of Ethan, if you think he should attack him for views and attention than you probably (and fortunately) don't have any friends, because at the slighest "scent" of trouble you would throw them under the bus. these are probably the same people who attacked him for making a video on his "friend" leafy, and now they are demanding a response on his ACTUAL FRIEND .

get a fucking grip, people.

edit: how some people are so up their own ass, that they mix me _"defending Ethan" with me "defending Jontron" is beyond me. is it your only argument? to say that i agree with JonTron's views? oh my god...

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[–]laaabaseball[The SΛVior][M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (0子コメント)

Locked due to brigading from other subreddits.

[–]_SpoonZilla[🍰] 166 ポイント167 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Agree with this 100%. For some reason people want him to publicly denounce Jontron when it isn't needed. If Ethan decides he doesn't agree with jontron then he would tell jontron privately. Ethan making a video on jontron is the same as Leafy fucking over his friends and their YouTube careers for money.

[–]AL2009man 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (9子コメント)

OH MY GOD, THANK YOU!

I'm been question on some people about this. If I'm just a regular Friend (or better yet, A Childhood Friend) of JonTron and foundin' out about what Jonny Boy has say, I would tell him "JONNY BOY, WHAT DID YOU DO THIS TIME, DID YOU FUCKED UP BOI!!!" and we have a civil discussion and We'll be fine with that.

but If I'm an YouTuber, I'm facing a lose/lose situation, Should I help a friend out to alienate your fanbase or backstab your friend to save your fanbase, but backfires in the process?

off-topic, some people are saying that H3H3 might get sued for attacking Nicas for Defamation, meanwhile PewDiePie (and the rest of us) has no problem attacking Ben Fritz, another WSJ guy and rest of the journalist.

[–]mexpend 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doubt it will go anywhere for defamation because they would open the doorway to get sued for defamation of others. They wouldn't be helping themselves after their PewDiePie blunder.

[–]Tumlr 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't think you realize the responsibility ethan has taken on as a youtuber who profits from posting his personal life and beliefs.

All ethan would have to do is stop putting others feet to the flame for their beliefs and no one would care about if he hung out with jon or not, people care though because hes always holding others to certain standers but when it comes to people questioning his standards apparently some of you guys think it's now too personal and none of our business.

[–]AL2009man 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I just written a Blog Post about the fanbase, which also includes taking responsibilities about being a Famous Person. which happens to include my reply to you on it, you can read it on my shitty website if you like.

I can probably summarize my reply to you right now with Black Mirror Season 3 Episode: "Hatred in the Nation". Famous Person's Responsibilities can have consequences, even if its a small and dumb one.

[–]TheAlmightyV0x [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

are you ok that Ethan apologizing a guy who happened to work with the same organization who almost destroyed PewDiePie? I would go ahead and read Nicas's article, but since WSJ wants me to subscribe to sign me, I'll wont read it.

So you haven't read the article, admit you haven't read the article, but you're talking like you know what it's contents are.

[–]Tumlr [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Haven't looked at a blog in years, why go the extra mile??

No offense but i'm gonna stay on reddit.

[–]AL2009man [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Meh, I could go ahead and write a Twitlonger, but instead I did it on my website due to me being a bit experiential.

but I tried my best to summarize to your reply with a Black Mirror episode, that might be a lazy thing for me to do, but fuck it, "My face is tired".

[–]Tumlr [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Give me a sec ill check it out.

[–]AL2009man [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Referring to Black Mirror or my blog post? I don't think you need to read my blog post anyway, it's more of a option.

[–]Meta1425 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Wasn't Leafy Ethan's friend before Ethan made the video about him, though?

[–]Re-mixy 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (3子コメント)

no, they only ever talked in the DMs. It was massively over exaggerated by Keemstar

[–]Meta1425 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

huh, I thought I remembered both Ethan and Leafy bringing up that they had been friends in their respective videos.

[–]Re-mixy 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ethan clarified in his Baited appearance that they were friendly, but never friends.

[–]Meta1425 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, I missed that. That does make more sense, though.

[–]Giagomo -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That doesn't work like that

[–]feared_rear_admiral [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's right. When did Ethan become an elected representative on Youtube? It's not his job to comment on anything and everything that happens in the world, just on things he particularly cares about. I thought he'd weigh in on the Jontron situation but tbh I can see how after the clusterfuck that's become with Jon getting dropped from a game and raked over the coals in the media while also not doing a great job explaining his views that Ethan thought "I ain't touching that". Besides people are getting fucking way bent out of shape by Jontron as well, they act like he's been funneling money to an underground militia and assaulting random people in the street. FFS the guy made a cringeworthy video. Fucking get a grip on yourselves.

[–]churrrls 114 ポイント115 ポイント  (19子コメント)

I don't know why so many people seem to want to see his career and livelihood ruined over this.

[–]crihfield 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i just want to see him back to normal. posting videos of him watching videos. this drama stuff and being the face of stuff is too much. i just hope people and himself can let go of this power stuff and just go back to what his channel was built on.

[–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (4子コメント)

same reason as to why Nicas is going after youtube

[–]KANNABULL 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You mean to use social platforms and news to manipulate larger companies to pull their exposure so that with the new internet privacy legislation people can literally use analytics to determine which stocks in the exchange market are being researched the most and essentially determine the rise and fall of shares at cost and manipulate the stock market? I agree, this is all about insider trading when you see past the youtube advert developments. Now if you'll excuse me I have to wash my aluminum beanie....

[–]wafflehat [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

How did SJW manipulate anyone? Sounds like you're still believing in some faked screenshots, bud. They presented real evidence. The companies that backed out did so on their own accord.

[–]KANNABULL [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My comment has nothing to do with whatever everyone is mad about honestly I still don't understand all that. I've just been doin' a bit of research on the stocks, some very suspisciousness activity in the volume of certain stocks. If you want to research it yourself I would start with Disney in the past three months, and then AT&T/Verizon in the past few days. My comment is a comical take on this being bigger...maybe than most people think.

[–]widowmakerOP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

But like, he isn't?

Why would the WSJ fear youtube? The WSJ is a well-respected orginization that's consumer base are mainly the wealthy. Youtubewill never overtake them in terms of news, most news channels on youtube use articles they didn't write and could be operated by anybody else.

As for Jack Nicas, all Ethan has shown is how hypocritical he is being. He makes videos on how it's terrible for someone to make an article on Pewdiepie trying to ruin his career when Ethan has done the exact same thing to someone who he hasn't even proven as a liar, in fact, Ethan was proven to be wrong. And even now fans are attacking him online, which will only hurt his current lawsuit since it will show how he can cause witchhunts quite easily.

What Ethan did by not investigating this was make it harder for people with actual arguements and facts to be taken seriously. And people are blowing over that fact by making excuses of "It still seems fishy that there were similar ads". Not really though, since they were probably going to it over and over to get more than just one example of a Coke ad, as most credible journalists would do. Youtube doesn't automatically show updated views, everyone knows that.

FYI, I know I have never posted on this sub, don't call me a brigader as a scapegoat. I follow the Youtube scene, I don't have to post on this subreddit to have an opinion on a current event.

[–]itsajaguar 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (5子コメント)

He very well could have had Nicas' career and livelihood ruined by posting a patently untrue video because he couldn't take the time to do his research before he made wild and damaging accusations.

[–]churrrls 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hence the retraction video

[–]antisocially_awkward 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (2子コメント)

But he didnt retract shit. He still was spreading conspiracies about the guy for half of that video.

[–]churrrls 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I dunno boss. Seemed pretty retract-y to me.

[–]antisocially_awkward 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, watch from basically the half point on, he should have just ended the video there but he stood by his conspiracy that wsj is trying to destroy his preferred platform based on screenshots from a random racist guy on youtube. If that's the proof he's going to use than he looks like an idiot.

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    [–]halfmanhalfvan 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    For exactly the same reason the people of this sub wanted Nicas lynched

    [–]churrrls 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    People wanted Nicas held accountable, like kind of how Ethan should be held accountable for this mistake, which is why the retraction video was necessary. This was a big goof on papa's part but should his life really be ruined for this? I don't think so.

    [–]wafflehat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Accountable for what?! On the basis of fake evidence construed by Ethan. Those aren't the same things. It's not a "goof" and I'm so sick of seeing everyone trying to play it off as some small mistake. This was a huge mistake on Ethan's part and he put the livelihood of a journalist in danger, who is still being constantly harassed by Ethan's millions of followers. When you have the kind of reach that Ethan has, you just don't do that shit and get to keep the moral high ground.

    [–]halfmanhalfvan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Of course it's overboard, but that's the nature of mob rule. Check out Jack Nicas' twitter mentions. That's not accountability, that's a mob.

    [–]churrrls 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Trolls attacking Nicas and trolls attacking H3 can both be in the wrong independent of each other.

    [–]halfmanhalfvan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Okay but what I'm saying is that's the Pandora's Box Ethan opened. He knows full well the nature of witchunting and how ochlocratic the internet is, particularly when one figure can be pointed out as literally hitler. It's more than trolls being trolls, ordinary normal internet goers like you and me jumped on the bandwagon and the same is true the other way around. The point is that Ethan is suffering the consequences of the seeds that he sowed, and I don't feel sorry for him, because he of all people should have known the consequences.

    See also Jonah Lehra if that's how you spell his name.

    [–]compute-bot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    There needs to be some punishment. The YouTube sleuth shit can do real harm. Just look at the journalists twitter. It's fucking embarrassing and he didn't even apologize to the reporter. He doubled down in his update.

    [–]sephrinx 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah people are being very melodramatic about this

    [–]IridiumRobin 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    On the internet? Doubt it.

    [–]jayhawkfilm 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (51子コメント)

    Yeah, I really don't get this hate against Ethan. He fucked up, and then totally acknowledged and recanted. Is that so bad?

    Furthermore, the point about him and JonTron is so true. I think JonTron is a piece of shit, but Ethan and Hila feel indebted to him for essentially giving them an income and kickstarting their Youtube careers. To be honest, if I were in such a situation, I would probably not want to burn that bridge either.

    The public has a short memory. That doesn't change much online. In a month or two, this will be just like the Pewdiepie thing - it won't matter.

    That said, I do think JonTron has a permanent mark against him now.

    [–]ARandomPerson15 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (39子コメント)

    Yeah, I really don't get this hate against Ethan. He fucked up, and then totally acknowledged and recanted. Is that so bad?

    Imagine the WSJ did the same thing. Now ask yourself if everyone here would forgive them, or if they would still be out for blood.

    Furthermore, the point about him and JonTron is so true. I think JonTron is a piece of shit, but Ethan and Hila feel indebted to him for essentially giving them an income and kickstarting their Youtube careers. To be honest, if I were in such a situation, I would probably not want to burn that bridge either.

    I understand why they don't say anything, but it does feel a little hypocritical to go after other people, then when it hits close to home you say nothing.

    [–]mexpend 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (29子コメント)

    I'd have respect for a news corp that publicly retracts statements and apologies for such. WSJ has yet to do so, hence no respect for them.

    [–]ARandomPerson15 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (28子コメント)

    But nothing they reported has been proven untrue. Why would they issue a retraction?

    Also that was just hypothetical to show that fans want Ethan to be forgiven quickly, but they would not be so kind too others.

    [–]mexpend 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (27子コメント)

    Nor has it been proven true by anyone other than themselves. Couple that with their PDP blunder and it brings to question their integrity. Why didn't they reach out to YT to prove beyond doubt that ads were shown on the video?

    Ethan retracted the statement because he found that the original video wasn't 100% accurate. Seems others are on the unforgiving train for any views they dislike. Didn't see much kindness for PDP when his stuff was taken out of context to slander him. Cherry picking clips to mislead an audience and you want others to believe the WSJ?

    [–]wafflehat [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

    Lmao, jesus. WSJ has no responsibility to prove Ethan wrong. If Ethan is going to make accusations, he has to prove them wrong. This bullshit rhetoric needs to end.

    [–]mexpend [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

    They don't but their claims can be questioned with evidence that hasn't been replicated yet. This rhetoric where a media outlet is just true because they say so needs to end as well.

    [–]wafflehat [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

    Sure, it can, and it'll most likely be shut down just like Ethan's was. But, if a newspaper that has been around for 150 years and is for the better part of that 150 years well-respected and a trusted investigative news source, you better believe I'm going to trust them.

    What needs to end is the rampant trolling, harassment, and death threats that proceed whenever someone's fave YouTube entertainer makes a video about a publication, news source, etc. It's dangerous and childish.

    [–]mexpend [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

    Yet a well-respected news corp doing the same is perfectly fine. That is why they are losing trust because of yellow journalism. I don't blindly trust.

    [–]wafflehat [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

    When did they do the same? When they took a clip of PDP holding his arm out and surrounded it with him wearing Nazi regalia, paying people to hold up a sign that says "Death to all Jews", and other anti-Semitic jokes?

    I don't think I'd really qualify those as the same thing.

    [–]ARandomPerson15 [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

    Why didn't they reach out to YT to prove beyond doubt that ads were shown on the video?

    Well thats easy. They saw the ads. Why would you reach out to YT for confirmation of something you saw?

    Look Ethan was the one who made the claim that they are fake. If he's making the accusation he needs to provide evidence and it looks like he doesn't have it.

    Cherry picking clips to mislead an audience and you want others to believe the WSJ?

    Same publication but different author, why would his credibility be damaged by someone else's actions. Is H3H3 less credible because Keemstar is on Youtube?

    [–]mexpend [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

    Well thats easy. They saw the ads. Why would you reach out to YT for confirmation of something you saw?

    Unbiased primary sources tend to be better than a bias group that has shown they will slant the truth and stand by it.

    Look Ethan was the one who made the claim that they are fake. If he's making the accusation he needs to provide evidence and it looks like he doesn't have it.

    Hence the video retracting the original claim. It doesn't change the skepticism the WSJ has created by their quality of content about YouTube and YouTubers.

    Same publication but different author, why would his credibility be damaged by someone else's actions. Is H3H3 less credible because Keemstar is on Youtube?

    They stand to gain by driving advertisers away from a platform that eats into their business model. Credibility differs from person to person. Depending on the person, H3H3 could be more or less credible than Keemstar.

    [–]ARandomPerson15 [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

    Unbiased primary sources tend to be better than a bias group that has shown they will slant the truth and stand by it.

    Look we are running around in circle here. If you saw an ad on the video would you contact youtube to confirm you indeed saw an ad? Is that an effective use of your time? If you saw a Mountain Dew at Walmart would you call Pepsi to confirm that they indeed sell to that Walmart?

    They stand to gain by driving advertisers away from a platform that eats into their business model.

    Again a claim with nothing to back this up. You are essentially claiming that the WSJ is conspiring to damage youtube. Where is the evidence for this claim.

    Also how does YT eat into their business? The markets are completely different. Look up WSJ demographic there is very little overlap so the ads wouldn't be effected by YT.

    [–]mexpend [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

    If you saw an ad on the video would you contact youtube to confirm you indeed saw an ad? Is that an effective use of your time? If you saw a Mountain Dew at Walmart would you call Pepsi to confirm that they indeed sell to that Walmart?

    If you were making such a claim would you want to have others be able to back up that claim or just take your word for it? Is the bar really that low?

    Again a claim with nothing to back this up. You are essentially claiming that the WSJ is conspiring to damage youtube. Where is the evidence for this claim.

    Hey now, if the logic is that if I see it hurting their business model, why would I have to back up the claim more than I have?

    Also how does YT eat into their business? The markets are completely different. Look up WSJ demographic there is very little overlap so the ads wouldn't be effected by YT.

    If advertisers can make more money on one platform versus another, they will normally spend where they can make the most. That isn't to say they won't spend on the WSJ's website ad space, but they would be less likely to spend more where they don't have a greater chance of profits. I checked the ads on the WSJ and MainGear had an ad there. Seems there is overlap.

    [–]ARandomPerson15 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

    If you were making such a claim would you want to have others be able to back up that claim or just take your word for it? Is the bar really that low?

    Are you saying that the screenshots are not enough? Why? Why are they not good enough?

    Hey now, if the logic is that if I see it hurting their business model, why would I have to back up the claim more than I have?

    Ohh you see it hurting their business. Awesome can I see that proof? You must have some so please share it.

    If advertisers can make more money on one platform versus another, they will normally spend where they can make the most. That isn't to say they won't spend on the WSJ's website ad space, but they would be less likely to spend more where they don't have a greater chance of profits. I checked the ads on the WSJ and MainGear had an ad there. Seems there is overlap.

    There is an overlap in ads but not in demographic. That's what I was referring to. Companies would never cannibalize their coverage by advertising on WSJ vs YT. They would be hitting different audiences. YT isn't eating into there business at all.

    [–]gnspach [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Did you actually read WSJ articles on PDP, they never called him a Nazi or Anti-semite.

    They have nothing to apologize In that case. Even PDP was surprised that they showed his actual reactions to the Jokes.

    [–]MY_GOOCH_HURTS 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Ethan is a YouTuber. WSJ should be held to higher standards.

    [–]ARandomPerson15 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Then he shouldn't try to be a journalist, or an investigator.

    If he wants to play one then he accepts the responsibility that comes along with it.

    [–]MY_GOOCH_HURTS 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Sure but holding him to the same standard for a publication that's been around for 150 years is absolutely asinine.

    [–]wafflehat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    No, it isn't. If Ethan wants to take on a publication that's been around for 150 years, then he assumes the same standards, especially when he has the following that he does. You're backing up some seriously hypocritical viewpoints here.

    [–]UncleSlippyFist 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Presenting evidence that isn't demonstrably false is a fairly reasonable standard that Ethan failed to reach.

    [–]Tumlr 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Not really ethan has a big fan base that can do enough damage that can get him sued.

    If he wants to do stuff like this he should do it the right way like phil defranfco.

    [–]mexpend 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    PhillyD does a better job that the WSJ when he makes videos.

    [–]Tumlr [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Having people be able to triple check your facts helps so much, i've been a viewer of his since I was a child and I can remember him making similar mistakes as ethan and growing from them.

    [–]mexpend [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Ethan took steps in the right direction to pull the original video and make another explaining that he made mistakes. It is rare these days for people to do that and he did something even the WSJ didn't do. Their articles about PDP are still up without updates apologizing for their claims.

    [–]Aelian 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    He fucked up, and then totally acknowledged and recanted. Is that so bad?

    Thing is he still hints at a conspiracy in his newer video, that bothers me. He should've just apologized and moved on.

    [–]SushiGradeNarwhal 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The only thing fishy is how they don't show all the other videos they found, but he's focusing too much on how much that one video earned. I still agree, he should just move on unless something concrete surfaces.

    [–]jinshilhana [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I think the thing about him apologizing would have entailed that he was completely wrong. Ethan still doesn't want to overturn the possibility that the pictures weren't doctored. He was wrong about there being absolutely no ads - but it still doesn't mean the pictures weren't manipulated in another way. At least we got somewhere with Ethan's "investigation".

    [–]Matloc -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Never apologize to SJWs.

    [–]Aelian 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Don't bring that shit into it, the subject is already toxic enough as it is.

    [–]Matloc -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Triggered.

    [–]DustBunz 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Really?

    [–]ShrimpFood 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Are you actually 11, or just still mentally there?

    [–]Opst3r 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He is acting like the rest of all the other guys who just want forgiveness for Ethan, they blindly reject anything that goes against it or spout shitty jokes.

    stuff like this

    [–]glswenson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    The wall street journal is a right-wing paper you fucking moron. Fuck off back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

    [–]Megacamz86 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The reddit community is pathetic.

    [–]imusingmyphone 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thank you! I was thinking the same, all these people run up in here asking for his head on a stake. It's bullshit man, he made a mistake, people are acting like his YouTube career is over now.

    [–]ultrablastman 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Just look at the history of the people posting all the hate towards Ethan here. They are all from cringy, mean-spirited subreddits that involve mocking others to make themselves feel better.

    Hopefully after a few days we can get back to the goofs and these people will fade away.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    the fact that most of them came from /r/justneckbeardthings says plenty

    [–]Slapshot00 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm glad other people checked that. A lot of brigading is happening here and happened on jontron's sub soon after his debate. People just need to step outside and take a breather.

    [–]Iheartbulge 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's sad that this is happening to Ethan and Hila. I say keep away from the subreddit for about a week. Then maybe the brigade will be done with.

    [–]rnd_usrnme 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (14子コメント)

    apologized for it

    Where?

    [–]MuzenCab 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (13子コメント)

    A whole video?

    [–]aleksanderg 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Where in the video did he apologize? He claimed he had proof of WSJ manipulating evidence that cost Google billions of dollars. Time stamp of the apology would be good.

    [–]Vadersbionicshaft [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

    It's in the title. Which is all anyone sees anyway.

    [–]aleksanderg [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

    Title is "Why We Removed our WSJ Video". How is that an apology?

    [–]Vadersbionicshaft [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

    I mean they removed it and apologized what more do you want

    [–]Tewks44 [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

    "He apologized"

    "No he didn't"

    "Well the apology is in the title"

    "No it isn't"

    "I mean he apologized, what more do you want?"

    Are you even listening to yourself?

    [–]Vadersbionicshaft [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

    Nah I'm really not all that invested in this

    [–]Tewks44 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

    Then why are you lying about it?

    [–]Vadersbionicshaft [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

    I wasn't lying I was just wrong. I should do more research but I'm just some dude on the internet there is literally no need t engage me

    [–]rnd_usrnme 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I must've missed it. Can you link it please?

    [–]Ultimatex 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    How did he apologize?

    Hint: He didn't.

    [–]MuzenCab 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    How did he apologize?

    Hint- an entire video.

    [–]BeepBep101 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    He didn't though. He still stuck by his theory despite evidence.

    [–]mexpend 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Despite evidence that still hasn't been validated by YouTube. Image manipulation isn't as difficult as it used to be. Has anyone else come forward to prove that they were served ads or just WSJ who stands to gain from the press?

    [–]BeepBep101 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    People found definitive proof that the video was claimed. It doesn't need to be validated.

    [–]mexpend 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    ChrisRGun tested out the theory to see if ads would play on a video with an offensive title, description, and/or tag as well as having been ContentID claimed. 2000 views and nobody saw ads even with a yellow indicator. YouTube would have to make a statement showing that yes ads played in the timeframe WSJ claims to validate it.

    [–]BeepBep101 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Given how shit youtube's detection algorithm is it is completely possible for this kind of slip up to happen.

    [–]mexpend [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I agree that it is possible, but I would want to see different sources be able to come to the same conclusion. There is a lack of evidence that it has been repeatable even among the increase in traffic for the video because of the exposure. Shit, a direct statement from YT would quash any doubt of WSJ's claim.

    [–]BeepBep101 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Why is everyone getting so worked up over this? He fucked up. Pretty badly. But why is there so much emotion? It's just a guy on the internet making a bad theory. Who fucking cares? He didn't sign up for the KKK.

    I swear if people got this worked up over things like school shootings and cancer, cancer would be a myth by now and the mental health of all students would have been raised tenfold.

    EDIT:Let me be clear. He was wrong. Absolutely wrong. He made a huge accusation against something that didn't even hold up for a day. But he's a youtuber. Not a huge newspaper. Why are people getting so worked up over what people won't even care about a week from now?

    [–]mexpend [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    They have higher standards for a YouTuber than a newspaper even after apologies and retractions. There are retarded times we live in.

    [–]BeepBep101 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    I'm not saying to not criticism him as we would WSJ if they did the same, that would be hypocritical. It's just like I said

    I swear if people got this worked up over things like school shootings and cancer, cancer would be a myth by now and the mental health of all students would have been raised tenfold.

    People are making a HUGE deal for something that isn't even that big a deal.

    "Wow! A guy on the internet called MSM fake news! This is groundbreaking stuff that I have never before witnessed!" /s

    [–]mexpend [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I would say that school shootings do get a metric fuckton of media exposure and change in society. Politicians want to outright ban guns or let everyone have them. If level-headed people in positions to create positive change, they wouldn't be hoplophobic. Knee-jerk reactions are fuckups in the long run. Cancer is a far more delicate and complex issue all together IMO.

    This isn't a huge deal, but it doesn't impact content creators that do little different that the MSM and they are getting flak for it. YT has had to overreact to appease the masses with their demonetization.

    [–]Newcomer2the 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    We aren't all from r/all I mean I have been an h3 fan since like 2013

    https://www.reddit.com/r/h3h3productions/comments/5rww5v/fugitive_serial_killer_spotted_in_small_movie/?st=J12OOR4M&sh=0794b1a9

    Tbh I think some of it is over-exaggerated and some of it is warranted - yeah he fucked up, and has yet to apologize for it. He also has yet to retract any of his false statements I mean in his video where he explains why he took the WSJ vid down he literally doubles down on those accusations.. If THIZETHAN I'm apologizing to jack nicas himself and the wsj

    [–]Tumlr 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I've been a fan since 2014, i've spoken with OP earlier in the day so he's talking about me when he says "people are questioning his relationship with john!".

    I poked holes all in OPs comments from earlier, he got mad and posted this. Personally i've already partially forgiven ethan mainly because I believe he will make a better apology video then the one he has up, what I don't agree with though is this idea that the guy who criticizes every thing isn't deserving of a little criticism himself. People like OP saying "Ethan should be able to shame racist while also supporting them without you questioning whether or not he's a disingenuous person!" are so ridiculous.

    [–]Bleaksadist 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    See you fucking get it. At this point I'm just tired of arguing with the /r/all normies, I'm just gonna start agreeing with the level headed people like you.

    [–]cjlj 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    How is he not a hypocrite? He accused the WSJ of bad journalism then did the exact thing himself.

    He's a hypocrite on the JonTron thing as well. He makes a living from being the "voice of reason", calling out YouTubers for being shitty people or just ridiculous. His defense of PewDiePie was that the WSJ was misrepresenting the context of his videos to make him seem racist. Then JonTron comes out as an actual unambiguous racist, and Ethan conveniently ignores it. it might be because JonTron is his friend, but that doesn't make him any less of a hypocrite, and ruins his credibility if he wants to continue making a living positioning himself as the voice of reason.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Journalism =/= Investigation

    about the second part, i already spoke about that.

    [–]cjlj 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    What do you mean by that? That the WSJ does proper journalism and Ethan doesn't so he is worse? If so i agree.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    That the WSJ does proper journalism

    i'm sorry... what?

    [–]cjlj 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    You said "Journalism =/= Investigation". I'm wondering what you meant by that. It sounds like you are saying that he's not a journalist so shouldn't be held to the same standards as the WSJ.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    check the dictionary then. i'm not going to argue with someone who can't tell the difference between the two

    [–]LukeTheFisher 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Boys. We have a retard in the house.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    we noticed

    [–]Eds0 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yea you are pretty retarded.

    Wow I pretty much copied your response to every comment in this thread. Man I never knew debating people would be this easy :)

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    probably because everyone present the same argument everytime. got to have patient

    [–]infinitepars 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (50子コメント)

    • Calls out people for being racist/racist things

    • Friend says racist things and doesn't say shit

    hypocrite

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (23子コメント)

    if you think he should attack him for views and attention than you probably (and fortunately) don't have any friends, because at the slighest "scent" of trouble you would throw them under the bus.

    read. Thanks

    [–]infinitepars 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (19子コメント)

    How about its not for attention and just doing the right thing to say hey my friend said some racist thing and I don't agree with it

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (17子コメント)

    isn't that conversation supposed to be private? or do you post every private conversation with your friends on your facebook?

    [–]Sezaii 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Exactly..

    [–]antisocially_awkward 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    His channel is partially built off calling people out for their shit in public.

    [–]xScubast3vex 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Emphasis on "HIS" channel, if Ethan doesn't want to call out Jon he doesn't have to. He can talk to him any time about that shit. No need to ruin a friendship just because your fan boys will have a wet dream if you blast him on your channel.

    [–]antisocially_awkward 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Ok, but than he cant act like he's the "moral center of youtube" and criticize racism if he's willing to excuse his friend even though he made objectively racist comments.

    [–]Vadersbionicshaft 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Not saying anything is not excusing though

    [–]antisocially_awkward [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    He hasnt exactly distanced himself from jontron either though. They've liked each other's tweets and jon tweeted about how good Ethan's first video yesterday was.

    [–]seinera 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    isn't that conversation supposed to be private?

    When you are making similar conversations about other people in the public? When the actual friend's actual statements have been public? No. Fuck no. That conversation has to be public, or it has no value.

    [–]BeepBep101 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The kinds of thing Jon said won't go away by publically ripping on him. For Jon to change, Ethan would have to talk to him privately over a period of time. This doesn't change overnight. And I believe that's what he's doing.

    [–]seinera 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    For Jon to change, Ethan would have to talk to him privately over a period of time. This doesn't change overnight.And I believe that's what he's doing.

    And I believe he is just sucking up to his racist friend because he is a spineless hypocrite. Until the day he comes out as anything else, that is the assumption of every decent person not blinded by fanboyism will know his as.

    The kinds of thing Jon said won't go away by publically ripping on him.

    Publicly ripping off racists makes them go away and keep their mouths shut. The less shit they spew, the fewer people get infected. Some diseases need to be contained before being cured. Sticking by racists doesn't work. On the contrary, they find courage through solidarity and go even deeper. Anything short of a complete societal shut down is useless.

    [–]BeepBep101 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There's a difference between sticking with racists and trying to talk to them in private to convince them this shit isn't alright. I've known people who used to be racist, but know aren't.

    And I believe he is just sucking up to his racist friend because he is a spineless hypocrite.

    You don't live in his house. You don't know the kind of relationship they have. For all we know it could be strained. It's stupid to act as if we know their private lives.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    and you just proved your worth

    [–]seinera 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Yeah, if my famous friend were to go on a 2 hour racist rant on a global platform, you can bet your ass I would call him out on it privately and publicly and cut my ties. There are some lines you just don't cross. "Black people are genetically inferior" is one of them.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    talk privately and cut your ties in the same way. using a friendship to gain something out of it so you can make yourself look better than others is just a scummy thing to do, i don't care who you are. i would never use a good friend of mine to promote myself as bigger and better. if you do that with close friends instead of helping them, they are ignorant for their views, but you are fucking disgusting.

    [–]seinera 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    using a friendship to gain something out of it so you can make yourself look better than others is just a scummy thing to do

    Being against racism isn't self promotion or being better, it is just basic common decency. Jesus fucking Christ how fucking low the god damn bar has fallen for you people!

    if you do that with close friends instead of helping them, they are ignorant for their views, but you are fucking disgusting.

    No, I am not disgusting for standing against racist garbage. Only retarded high schoolers would think being friends with someone excuses you from repercussions of having such awful beliefs.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Being against racism isn't self promotion or being better, it is just basic common decency. Jesus fucking Christ how fucking low the god damn bar has fallen for you people!

    if you sell out of friend publicly, it will be for attention, for sure. because a good friend would go to him privately and say "DUDE, what the fuck was that? are you crazy?".

    [–]MuzenCab 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We csll that grandstanding.

    [–]Reinhart3 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    >slightest scent of trouble

    lol

    [–]deszerofire 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Does not saying anything would make his truth less truthfull. Or will calling him out make his mistake less wrong? He is free to do what he wants. As you are to stop watching him if you dont agree with him or his action or lack of actions.

    [–]TheClockworkGod 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is literally the Anakin-level argument of, "If you're not with me then you're my enemy." You expect him to come out in public, denounce his friend and throw him under the bus, whether or not said friend did say some terrible shit or not. It's not virtue signalling. It's not "being" a hypocrite or being "decent". It's needing to see someone talk ill just so you can feel like they did something, because if they're not with you then they're against you, right?

    Can't ever be neutral, or not want to be involved, or say things in private. No, it's gotta be loud and public and with no remorse.

    [–]mrasarescum 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (23子コメント)

    The other explanation is he actually agree's with what JonTron and PewDiePie were saying...

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (22子コメント)

    yes... the jewish guy with a wife from Israel agrees with Jontron.... and agrees with PewDiePie? PDP didn't make a statement, he made a joke. go back to /R/redditdrama or whatever it is

    fuck me... some people

    [–]seinera 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    yes... the jewish guy with a wife from Israel agrees with Jontron

    ? Implying Jews can't be racist? JonTron is their friend yet he hates immigrants all the same. There are ton of immigrants out there who are racist against other immigrants thinking "but not me, I am one of the good ones."

    When someone makes such unabashed racist remarks, and you don't call them out on it, and continue to be friends with them and joke around with them, what are people supposed to assume? "Yeah I know he never said anything against his racist shit and still hangs out with him despite his racist shit, but clearly he cannot be thinking similar things or at least be okay with such thought". Is this the conclusion we are supposed to reach? Sorry, in real life, you have to pay attention to the people you are associating yourself with. It is your responsibility to show who you are, not the people's responsibility to always assume the best despite action to the contrary.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    ? Implying Jews can't be racist?

    sigh

    When someone makes such unabashed racist remarks, and you don't call them out on it, and continue to be friends with them and joke around with them, what are people supposed to assume? (...) Sorry, in real life, you have to pay attention to the people you are associating yourself with. It is your responsibility to show who you are, not the people's responsibility to always assume the best despite action to the contrary.

    double sigh i'm so tired of repeating myself. why can't people just read the entire fucking thing and not ask questions that can be answered with something that already in OP?

    you don't know what happened privately between the two, because in situations like these, conversations between friends are private. people accused Ethan of attacking Leafy when he wasn't his friend saying "oh you backstabbed him" and now people are demanding the opposite for JonTron. it's pathetic. they are friends, JonTron already apologized for the remarks, you don't know if they talked about it or not.

    the work of a friend is not to expose the other person for personal gain, it's to help him and be there for him when he fucks up and to call him out PRIVATELY on the bullshit they say or do.

    now you can talk all you want, all of you /r/all or /r/againsthatesubs or whatever the fuck it's called bring up the same points over and over again, which proves you are all shitty friends. have a good night

    [–]BeepBep101 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I agree but Jon didn't really apologize. He kind of doubled down.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    it was a pretty shitty apology if there was any.

    but then again i'm not lurking the internet all day looking for the slightest thing to promote the humanitarian that there is in me.

    for that i normally turn on MTV and scream "YEAH, YOU GO SISTER"~

    until then i'll keep watching his content

    [–]seinera 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    First of all, I fucking hate Leafy, that guy is a dipshit. If Ethan turned on him, then good.

    Secondly, JonTron still spews same racist bullshit allover the place, so even if they had a conversation in private, it obviously didn't work. How long are you going to tolerate someone, until he literally kills a person?

    And no, JonTron did not fucking apologize. He doubled down in the worst way possible. The typical "sorry for you got offended, I am technically correct" non-apology bullshit.

    the work of a friend is not to expose the other person for personal gain, it's to help him and be there for him when he fucks up and to call him out PRIVATELY on the bullshit they say or do.

    Hi fucking friend exposed himself. He refuses to take a stance against him. He is going to stick by his racist friend, fine. BUt he is going to get shit for it and he deserves it.

    now you can talk all you want, all of you /r/all or /r/againsthatesubs or whatever the fuck it's called bring up the same points over and over again, which proves you are all shitty friends. have a good night

    No, we are grown ups who know there is a limit to "being there" for someone and "trying to help them". You go spend hanging around your clan buddies deluding yourself into thinking your silence is anything but approval. Anyone who smears themselves in that hot garbage is no friend of mine.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    First of all, I fucking hate Leafy, that guy is a dipshit. If Ethan turned on him, then good.

    so "if he's a dipshit, i'll be a dipshit" works for you han?

    obviously didn't work. How long are you going to tolerate someone, until he literally kills a person?

    wow... you do know that from being an ignorant to killing someone is a long way to go, don't you? what the fuck was that supposed to achieve?

    BUt he is going to get shit for it and he deserves it.

    that's what good friends do

    No, we are grown ups who know there is a limit to "being there" for someone and "trying to help them".

    isn't that limit "supporting him on his ignorant views" ?

    your clan buddies deluding yourself into thinking your silence is anything but approval.

    it's actually Klan.. please respect my little group of friends. appreciate it

    [–]seinera 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    JonTron isn't a babe lost in the woods. He isn't ignorant. he deliberately chose which facts he enjoys and which lies he promotes. He is a grown ass man, it ain't anybody's job to teach something as basic as racism being wrong.

    that's what good friends do

    You know what matters in life more than just being a constant support bag for piece of shit? Actually being a decent person. One of the first steps? Stop supporting people who are out to get an entire race. Pretty easy stuff.

    it's actually Klan..

    Just because racist idiots misspell the word doesn't I have to misspell it either. It's a clan.

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    JonTron isn't a babe lost in the woods. He isn't ignorant. he deliberately chose which facts he enjoys and which lies he promotes. He is a grown ass man, it ain't anybody's job to teach something as basic as racism being wrong.

    why are we talking about Jontron? jesus fucking christ, I'M NOT DEFENDING JONTRON.

    Just because racist idiots misspell the word doesn't I have to misspell it either. It's a clan.

    "He's being a friend and not using a friendship to promote himself"

    "OH AREN'T YOU JUST A RACIST?"

    btw, it's an affection thing we have going on. to stand out. Karing Koalas Klan...

    [–]seinera 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's being a friend and not using a friendship to promote himself"

    For the last fucking time: Publicly denouncing outrageous behavior isn't promoting yourself. Fucking seriously! You need to start questoining your line of thinking and your priorities when taking a "normal human stance" on a pretty clear cut issue looks like "promoting" to you. As if being a decent human being is some unique marketable product. Seriously, this shit is basic. Existence of is taken granted, lack of it is absurd.

    [–]GasCucksMemeWarNow 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    immigrants out there who are racist against other immigrants

    "Immigrant" isn't a race.

    [–]seinera 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Oh boy you got me there! Immigrant isn't a race, therefore hating people for not being born in the same country as you and considering them to be "polluting" your gene pool is totally cool! You people act like as if being hateful bigoted shits in forms including but not limited to race is somehow better than just being a hateful bigoted shit based on race.

    And hatred of immigrants is racist: Fuck ton of people from different race, religion and socio-economic back grounds, all being lumped together and hated because there just has to be something inherently wrong with them and their "genes are wrong". Ah the internet, where to be racist against not one but dozens of different groups are somehow considered better.

    [–]mexpend 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You need to learn the difference between prejudice, bigotry, and racism. They aren't fucking synonymous.

    The hatred of immigrants is prejudice, not racism. Quite going full SJW and assuming high ground painting all who disagree with broad strokes.

    I don't hear much naysaying when people who disagree politically are immediately called racist. Someone needs a mirror.

    [–]JohnsonJameson 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You and the apologists like you who refuse to acknowledge the reality of the situation is what is causing the "outrage". It's the refusal to see the hypocrisy and the double standard.

    You are not holding Ethan to the same fire that was blazing out of control when you thought the journalist and WSJ faked their report, in fact many people still believe they still faked the report including Ethan himself.

    [–]HigherPrimape 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Yea all that good he's done standing up to youtubers.

    But hey, his friend hates black people. He's given a chance to practice exactly what he preaches, use his platform to say that's not ok.

    But nah, let's exchange memes instead. And as diehard fans one must stick by him? I had a friend use the word nigger around me and am no longer friends with that person.

    I'd say implying black people are inherently more criminalistic/violent is far worse than that. Ethan is a coward and a hypocrite.

    Edit: It's not that he is the root of all evil. No one is saying that. It's that this channel has based itself on calling out hypocrites and otherwise malicious youtubers and is seemingly against witch-hunt esque media.

    Yesterday we learned this channel is not above doing exactly what it has claimed to fight against. The WSJ video wasn't "we don't know if this is true or not". The video was WSJ used faked photos(probably in all caps correct me if I'm wrong). The title did not leave any room for interpretation. It was as witch hunt-y as it gets.

    It was clickbait. And it really showed what kind of people h3h3 are. No research was done on their end. They accused a giant company of doctoring photos. The fact that they didn't stop to think about how heavy of an accusation that is is just embarrassing.

    Or they did know how big of an accusation it was, and if true it would have been a huge hit to WSJ. But instead of verifying sources and building a case we have the current situation. Any amount of time spent thinking about the situation would have shown just how ridiculous it really was.

    But I guess when you really want to get that clickbait video out, none of that matters yea?

    [–]Darigaz44 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Say nigggggeeeeerrrrr

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    a lot of /r/justneckbeardthings guys here.

    Yea all that good he's done standing up to youtubers. But hey, his friend hates black people.

    automatically a piece of shit because of this.... lol "HEY, he helped a lot of people that he didn't need to.... but his friend dislikes black people, so he's a piece of shit as well"

    [–]HigherPrimape 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Did I call Ethan a piece of shit?

    I said a coward and hypocrite.

    Good effort tho. If you want to check my post history I called Jon a piece of shit. I guess it's easy for you to confuse the two names somehow tho

    Edit: Look at you making outlandish claims with faulty evidence. Does this type of behavior just run right down from the content creator in this sub? Like papa like son?

    [–]ChatLag 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    and im sure you've never acted hypocritically

    [–]HigherPrimape 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I sure don't when it comes to racist

    And I must have missed the memo where only pure individuals are allowed to call out hypocritical cowards.

    Whoops

    [–]ChatLag 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    My point is humans sometimes act hypocritically. I assume at some point in your life you have acted hypocritically. I wonder if someone was there calling you out a hypocrite and coward as well.

    [–]HigherPrimape 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Ok so what does your point have to do with the discussion at hand?

    I'm talking about Ethan being a hypocrite and a coward, and I've got proof of this in his dealings with Jon after the racist remarks despite a large part of the channel being calling out this type of behavior.

    Are we just making baseless assumptions now though? Kinda like Ethan and the latest video.

    [–]ChatLag [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I'm trying to understand why it matters to have to repetitively and loudly point it out to everyone. Sometimes people act hypocritically or cowardly. Does it make him a coward or a hypocrite? Does he deserve to have a fire lit under his ass for not immediately responding to his friend's sudden racism? The amount of controversy around the JonTron issue shows how conflicted Ethan must be himself.

    Ethan will learn from this mistake because he's smart and a good person at heart.

    [–]Giagomo -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    This is what happens when talentless youtubers leak onto r/all and act as if they have more journalistic skills than a century old paper. YouTube drama is cancer to the majority .

    [–]Aelian 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    What the fuck are you doing on this subreddit if you think that? Go back to whining on r/all.

    [–]Giagomo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No i am quite comfortable reading commentators try and convince themselves that YouTube reaction extraordinaires are more reliable and trusted then the established and educated media . I'm going to make myself home watching this train wreck .

    [–]Vadersbionicshaft [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Talentless says the unknown redditor

    [–]ChocolatePopes -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    You have racist friends?

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    nope. even if i had, what does that have to do with anything?

    [–]ChocolatePopes 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I'm saying if I discovered if my friend was racist, then I'll call them out of it. I'm not a shitty friend if I did so

    [–]Srirachachacha 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Ok, but you're also not famous and people aren't asking you to do it in the public sphere

    [–]bruohan 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Nice username

    [–]Srirachachacha 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Right back atcha', bro-han

    [–]Psych0BoyJack[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    if you called him out indirectly for millions of people to see and gain something from that, other than helping your friend, then yes, you are a shitty friend

    [–]JonnyJinx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think him calling out Jon would necessarily be an act of treachery. Sometimes friends need to call out other friends for doing shitty things, and that's okay, if it's done correctly. And I admit, I am a bit worried about Ethan's silence on the issue, because it brings into doubt whether he actually disagrees with Jon's views.

    Having said that, Ethan has no obligation to make a video on Jon. Regardless of whether they're friends or not, denouncing Jon would likely invite swathes of hatred and fighting upon his channel.

    At a time like this, when he's under a very expensive and stressful lawsuit, and then adding onto this WSJ fuck-up on top of that, Ethan's under a pretty severe amount of pressure right now. Commenting on the Jon drama right now would be a bad idea for his mental state and probably bad for the channel. Honestly, I think Ethan just needs to apologise to Jack Nicas and move on.

    Ultimately, nobody can force him to call out Jon, and even if he should, the circumstances are not right. I understand why he would want to keep quiet on it, and I think most people in his situation would want to as well, considering their friendship and how heated of a topic it already is.

    [–]HottyToddyMed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Agree 100%. You pretty much summed up how I felt in the post I made also. Bringing his friendship with JonTron into this is ridiculous. Just because they probably dont see eye to eye on all issues do not mean that they cant still be friends. There has been no reason for Ethan to "denounce" his friendship with Jon

    [–]AbigailLilac [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    What does JonTron even have to do with this? The same people who wanted to end JonTron are the ones who are using H3H3's mistake to end H3H3 for not specifically going against JonTron. The majority aren't part of the community, they just brigade in order to push their agenda.

    [–]DoctorHolmes23 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Finally, a frontpage /r/h3h3productions post that is against making Ethan and Hila cater to their "silence is agreement" bs.

    [–]compute-bot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    He didn't apologize though. He doubled down. When does he explicitly apologize to the journalist he called out? When did he say "I apologize to the WSJ for ...?" He doesn't. Ethan should be in hot water right now because he got caught up in the "scoop" just like the journalist he was supposedly calling out.

    [–]fisstech15 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's the same overreaction that happens towards any target of h3 video. Just another day on the internet.

    [–]Nantonio55 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Here I am thinking on what thing JonTron has said that was racist?

    [–]cyangekko 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    http://www.wetheunicorns.com/news/jontron-massive-racist-tirade/#0vxsLDXyKFDz10hX.97

    Idk this site but the video at the bottom gets pretty bad, basically he says that the US should stay majority white and that he's afraid that soon whites will become the minority. He tries to explain his reasons for this by saying things like that non-white immigrant values don't align with white values, and that wealthy black people commit more crimes than poor white people -- there's lots more in the actual video.

    Edited to add summary stuff (I'm bad at reddit)

    [–]Nantonio55 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Gonna watch/listen to the vid, but last I knew he was called a Racist/Nazi because he was in a livestream with Sargon, which is the most stupidest thing I have heard in a while. Also while I like diversity, I understand the point of the US staying not mostly white, but with the culture that's in it rn. While the treatment of natives was not a good one, The US of migrants from Europe and the country that was before with the natives is not the same. And not as a person living in Continental U.S (Puerto-rican, so technically a U.S Citizen, our culture is really different), I would say that I would like to also protect my culture. At least in mine race is not important, and I would say the same thing about the U.S. but protecting culture is really important, since culture is probably the most important part of the social aspect of human beings.

    [–]Reinhart3 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Gonna watch/listen to the vid, but last I knew he was called a Racist/Nazi because he was in a livestream with Sargon, which is the most stupidest thing I have heard in a while.

    So you didn't actually watch the stream and you don't know what he said?

    [–]Nantonio55 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well right now I have to go to sleep soon, so I have only heard part of the ls. I read more or less of the article and some of his points can be argued however considering how loaded they are taking a stance in them is pretty much social death. I do not condone racism but last I heard of him it was people calling him racist/Nazi just cause he talked to "right/centre" YT people.

    [–]outlooker707 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    i'm waiting for ethan to come out as right wing supporter and join jontron.

    [–]DHSean [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I must be the only person that hasn't seen anyone post shit about ethan.

    He has so much support from what I've seen...

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