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Is it Cultural Appropriation to wear hooped earrings? (self.SRSDiscussion)

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http://www.latinorebels.com/2017/03/14/a-message-from-the-latinas-who-made-the-white-girl-take-off-your-hoops-mural/

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/students-behind-white-girls-take-off-your-hoops-mural-lash-out-at-campus-paper/

http://claremontindependent.com/pitzer-college-ra-white-people-cant-wear-hoop-earrings/

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[–]loganpayton 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am a white female & I try to be as aware and educated as possible when it comes to cultural appropriation because I would never want to harm, disrespect or put down someone else's culture for a "fashion statement" for myself. Honestly though, this one is really hard for me. I've never in my entire life experienced any person be put down or not taken seriously because of hoop earrings no matter what their race. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I know it does and that is horrible. It's hard though because to me, hoops are classic earrings, available in every jewelry store, even from a Kmart or a corner store, all the way up to Tiffany and extremely high end jewelry stores. Hoop earrings have existed for thousands of years in all different cultures all over the world. I asked my Chinese boss how she felt about this & she was floored this was a thing, she didn't understand it. She said asians have been wearing hoops for years & years & she didn't think it belonged to one particular race. Everyone I've spoken to about this were really confused. Now obviously just because those around me don't understand does not mean this is not an issue, clearly there are people out there who feel upset and frustrated because of this. I just personally don't think I would stop wearing hoops or make my white, Asian, Indian etc friends take them off either. Maybe I'm horrible and the exact problem they are talking about, but this is one thing I can't get fully behind :/

[–]Lolor-arros 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (25子コメント)

I would suggest that you listen to what they have to say, and decide for yourself.

It's also important to note -

The mural, a free speech piece of art, was not about banning white people from wearing hoop earrings but rather highlighting how women of color feel about cultural appropriation and the invisibility of institutional issues they face.

[–]basemyth 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Would it be cultural appropriation for a latina to dye her hair blonde? Not trying to be antagonistic, just wondering what the criterion is

[–]shahryarrakeen 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (23子コメント)

If the latina in question is non-white, it would be assimilation

[–]Hadge_Padge 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Um, not sure why the skin colour is the conditional

[–]shahryarrakeen 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because white people as a group have power over other groups.

[–]orek74 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If she's dying her hair blonde because light colored hair is considered desirable, wouldn't that reflect a racist culture as well?

[–]lile001 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cultural appropriation is a matter of degree. Many of us in the US celebrate Christmas, a festival originally appropriated from pre-Christian Europeans. Do we consider Christmas celebrations inappropriate? Not at all. Christmas is an embedded part of our culture in the US. There is a line, though, when acting like folks from a different culture becomes mocking, insulting, and insensitive. Earrings are a long way this side of the line, IMHO.

[–]shahryarrakeen 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

My responses from a comment chain got deleted. So I'll copy and edit my thoughts.

White people as a group have the power to punish originators for expressing their own culture, while a white person may take from said culture and claim to be "exotic" or "cosmopolitan" for doing the same.

Ethnic women are often punished at work and school for "natural" hair styles, even in places like South Africa, while a white person is can wear it as a "hippie" thing.

South Asian curries are a popular cuisine in many countries, while landlords deny housing to South Asian residents of those countries for "smelling like curry".

The marginalized are forced to assimilate and get cut off from benefits for contributing to a culture they participated in (which is the closest thing one can get to "owning" a culture). The imbalance of the exchange is the core of the problem with appropriation.

[–]Silkkiuikku 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You're saying that the problem is that non-white people are discriminated against when they were hoop earrings, while white people aren't. It seems to me that the problem are the jerks who discriminate against non-white women who wear hoops, not the white women who also wear hoops. So wouldn't the solution be to attack the jerks for discriminating against people, rather than to attack white people for wearing hoop earrings?

Besides, aren't hoop earrings are like the most basic, universal earring type of earrings in the world? How am I appropriating someone else's culture if I wear the same kinda jewelry my people have been wearing for centuries? I mean, here's a photo of a peasant woman from 1876 rural Finland wearing hoop earrings. (You can make the picture larger with the black buttons on the right of the picture).

Edit:Here's another photo

[–]shahryarrakeen -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Those earrings are much smaller than the oversized hoops in question, which are associated with African-American and Latin-American culture (an Italian magazine was criticized for calling them "slave earrings", so the association is well known globally). Even if you can find that specific size somewhere else, were those women discriminated against for wearing that size hoop? If white people benefit from discriminstion and don't speak up, they are still complicit.

[–]Silkkiuikku 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

So people are only allowed to wear big hoop earrings if they face discrimination for wearing them? Isn't that a bit of a paradox?

Doesn't this mean that African-American women will no longer be allowed to wear hoop earrings, if everyone stops discriminating against them for it? And am I allowed to wear hoop earrings now that I face discrimination in the form of people telling me that I'm not allowed to wear hoops because of my race?

[–]shahryarrakeen -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're allowed to do whatever. But others are allowed to criticize

[–]Silkkiuikku 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the weirdest part of this whole thing is that where I live, it's mostly white women who wear hoop earrings, and I associate it with young native party girls, not black women. It seems to me that most black women here wear hijab, so their ears aren't even visible.

[–]lazurz 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (17子コメント)

For those who might be a bit fashion challenged (like me), I found this article helpful in understanding the history of hoop earrings in the US.

[–]Silkkiuikku 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (16子コメント)

I read the article, and I don't quite understand. So because black Americans happen to like hoop earrings, everyone else has to stop wearing them? Should all the other people around the world who've been wearing hoop earrings for centuries just throw them away or what?

[–]airus92 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is the kicker for me. It doesn't seem like black and latinx individuals in America created hooped earrings. I know they've existed in India for centuries before that. Are they culturally appropriating hooped earrings from South Asian people? Is that okay to do because they don't come from the same position of privilege?

Which leads to the further question I have, which is whether appropriation is more about the person appropriating or the person getting appropriated.

[–]Lolor-arros 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (11子コメント)

So because black Americans happen to like hoop earrings

No. It's not about "liking" hoop earrings.

From that article -

"This is about how women of color can't wear their own style and culture because they are looked down upon when they do so," Martinez explained to me over the phone. "But on the other hand, white females are allowed to appropriate the fashion when it is beneficial to them or makes them look edgy."

everyone else has to stop wearing them?

No.

"The mural, a free speech piece of art, was not about banning white people from wearing hoop earrings but rather highlighting how women of color feel about cultural appropriation and the invisibility of institutional issues they face."

[–]Silkkiuikku 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (10子コメント)

If they don't want to ban white girls from wearing hoops, then they shouldn't paint a huge ass mural that says "white girls take off your hoops", lest they wish to be misunderstood.

Edit: spelling

[–]Lolor-arros -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Or you could try listening to them, and trying to understand why that was written.

Writing "take off your hoops" on a wall is so far from asking for a ban.

[–]Silkkiuikku 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Well, it does sound like they're telling white girls not to wear hoops.