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[–]HaroldJIncandenza [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

In reality, it's a quote from Gregor Strasser.

[–]cantoXV1 [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

Strasser is still a Nazi, so the sentiment is correct but I agree that he should have just quoted the correct person.

[–]cleanmymind [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

Hitler KILLED that motherfucker though because he was a socialist.

Also, with what Hitler means today in modern society, there's a big difference.

[–]FrostyTB [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Stop defending Hitler you Nazi

Guess i gotta /s in this day and age

[–]TheXarath [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

TIL speaking about a historical event in the way you understand that it happened is the same as defending that event happening.

[–]cleanmymind [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Check out my whole slew of anti-nazi comments though on this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/62lu4a/comment/dfo0x1g

Edit: also being a fascist is ALSO SHITTY!

[–]schlondark [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Why would a socialist kill a socialist for being socialist?

[–]harbfead [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Because there is a very big difference between Socialism and National Socialism.

[–]cleanmymind [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Because Hitler was not a socialist. See my answer below.

[–]Mist_Rising [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

You mean besides the fact Hitler killed people for any number of reasons? Hitler wasn't an espesially socialist person. He sent more then a few to the death camps. Hitler was a state controls everything (and the state here is a few people) kind of person - dead opposite of actual socialism in which the people own the means of production.

[–]NotBryzgoalie30 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

The people own nothing in socialism, the state controls all of it Source: every socialist country ever

[–]Kody_Z [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The state makes it sound like the people own it, but we all know in reality that the people own nothing.

[–]basket_of_adorables [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

You know as much as I hate it when leftists play the "that's not real communism!" card antifa is a movement funded by billionaires and made up of privileged rich kids that spends it's time bringing physical violence to political events which are usually attended by the working class, it's hard to call that socialism or communism with a straight face.

[–]TheGoatsMustBeCrazy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I kind of agree (though, this does have some roots in cultural Marxism) in that many people engaging in this antifa movement are just lost. They are spiritually, morally, and culturally ungrounded.

Unlike the Bolsheviks, I don't see a lot of ideological vigour or intellectual backing. These people aren't like Trotsky or Lenin getting together in an underground meeting to discuss ownership of the means of production; they are just petty, selfish, emotionally stunted man-children with remarkably little sense of identity, but way too much self-esteem.

They are looking to ground themselves to something - anything - in a culture that has planted their feet firmly in mid-air. So, you get loonier and more incoherent SJW ramblings in lieu of real ideas for a real world. You get "I want free _______" instead of a sensible economic system. And you see antifa losers looking to stir shit up on the streets to make themselves appear morally superior.

Most couldn't even describe what fascism is (or see the irony of what they're doing to oppose it with violence and the stifling of free speech), but they define themselves in opposition to it because they're not really for anything except themselves.

[–]TrannyPornOAnarcho-Capitalist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How is Socialism not violent?

Proudhon said he'd arm himself to the teeth against civilisation, Sorel said he'd murder to no end, Trotsky wanted an unending revolution, Babeuf wanted everyone that was "unequal" to starve, Tolstoy followed Bakunin and Rousseau by asking to kill the rich and go wild in the forests, and so on.

Most Socialists are violent people, all of them are primitivists, and they all stand against civilisation, even in so low a form as a Fabian or Russell. What they ask for is, even if unwitting, the complete genocide of more than every other person, since their ideology is a literal impossibility that would tear down the entirety of the spontaneous order that provides for most of the current population.

[–]cleanmymind [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This isn't real. Hitler hated socialists, and the SOCIALIST part of the Nazi name came from before he joined the party (I think) but was mainly there for populist appeal, since at that time socialism was a buzzword popular with the working classes who would make up Hitler's base. Hitler kept the name but purged any socialist inclinations out of the party, making it firmly a fascist party.

Read some history.

[–]TheAtomicOptionLibertarian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hate antifa with a passion, but I have to admit that naming a group that uses fascist tactics "anti-fascism" is a pretty damn clever.

[–]ctr4life [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

According to wikiquote, it was not Hitler but another member of the Nazi party who said that.