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I'm still convinced that Obama started spying on Trump during the "Trump investigates Birth Certificate" issue. Obama was using his power to find dirt on Trump to try to counter it. (self.The_Donald)

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[–]Trump-DestinyUSA 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (17子コメント)

I wouldn't doubt this theory one bit, also Trump was rumored to be running for President in 2012. Obama wanted to find dirt, instead he found jack shit, but imaginary Russians dancing in his head.

[–]KingBrolyUSA 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (4子コメント)

12333 was most likely used as a cover for a mistake Obama made between July and Inauguration Day.

[–]SamSimeon 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Parallel construction so they could explain any leaks of what they had and claim it was the product of legal surveillance.

[–]KingBrolyUSA 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe he wanted to find out how Trump learned about it, or if he was lucky. I dunno. It won't work since you'd probably have PDB's for 4 years of just looking at Trump because of the one thing. That's narcicism.

[–]Centi_Fan 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Covering tracks after he found out secrets wouldn't stay in the basement, since Hillary lost.

[–]Just_MAGA 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sheriff Arpaio knew he and Trump were being spied on by Obama over the birth certificate issue. Sorry I don't have a link to source, but apparently the spying goes way back. If Arpaio knew, I bet Trump knew.

[–]barcelonatimesESP 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump was so rich he was a political elite without even being in politics. All politicians were in love with Trump and groveling for his support...until he started rocking their boat and threatening to end their gravy train.

You can bet your ass Trump was privy for some top secret shit...which seems to be the very thing he's trying to end.

[–]drkstar00 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think they have these mislabled, but the 19 min clip has your info. It's this first link.

https://soundcloud.com/stephenlemons/fruit-of-the-poisonous-tree-part-two

https://soundcloud.com/stephenlemons/fruit-of-the-poisonous-tree-part-one

[–]amen_hallelujahCA 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obama is nothing not half the man Donald J Trump is. Trumps Legacy is LEGEND, POETIC, EPIC, GREAT, FOR THE AGES Obamas is "FIRSTHALF BLACK PRESIDENT" Ill make sure to remind the children of his crimes and How Michelle... well how Those Shoulders should have matched those hips but they didnt so...

[–]Just_MAGA 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sheriff Arpaio knew he and Trump were being spied on by Obama over the birth certificate issue. Sorry I don't have a link to source, but apparently the spying goes way back. If Arpaio knew, I bet Trump knew.

[–]SnazzyD 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (11子コメント)

The whole "birther" thing started with Hillary Clinton and her BFF Sidney Blumenthal back in 2008 when she was vying for the Democratic nomination. Trump commented on it, but it was Clinton who started the whole thing...

[–]Pepe_cultistNY 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (3子コメント)

SHHHHHHHHH DON'T TELL PEOPLE THAT

[–]mythstified 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fake news! (it's not)

[–]Silverwind_NargacugaMD 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate this meme ( I love this meme)

[–]RARE_PEPE_MERCHANT_ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN

[–]Zorac9001 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It doesn't matter who said it. Proof of citizenship is a constitutional requirement. People not having a problem with the way Obama handled the whole thing are the ones asking for trouble.

"The Constitution gives three eligibility requirements to be president: one must be 35 years of age, a resident "within the United States" for 14 years, and a "natural born Citizen," a term not defined in the Constitution"

So what happens if it is found he is not constitutionally eligible? Will the AHCA be nullified because he didn't really have the power to sign on a bill?

[–]PLAYER_1_PRESS_STARTMN 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

More importantly, his judicial appointments - are they null and void because he was constitutionally ineligible? If that could be proven, it would be a legal crisis of an almost inestimable magnitude.

[–]1778 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure it means everything he carried out in office gets undone.

[–]rsnydernhNH 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If thats the case all the decisions made by those appointments would also be null and void? That would be a YUGE clusterfuck.

[–]countryshepherd 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Natural Born Citizen defined, One who is a citizen by no act of law.

[–]tperelliMI 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She started it but Trump took it and ran away with it.

[–]GilliaisDTOM 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Seems likely, but I don't think President Trump was the only citizen being spied on for political purposes by the Obama/Clinton/DNC machine. Judicial watch Klayman's whistleblower Dennis Montgomery listed congress and Supreme Court.

[–]havoc2bg 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah he had some shit in CJ Roberts and made him keep Obamacare.

[–]Snow_TownDTOM 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Something to do with Roberts' adopted children, perhaps?

[–]Duopy3 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kenya just tell me where the birth certificate is ?

[–]William-WallaceGhost 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya listening to those tapes with Sheriff Joe it was outlining the amount of people in just his county that were being surveilled and it was over 150k, along with their banking info. So my guess is that people like Trump and Sheriff Joe has targeted surveillance placed on them and anyone close to them. Trump's been a threat to the globalists since 9/11. And Sheriff Joe most certainly has the info that that BC was forged. Be interesting to see if anyone ever does anything about that.

[–]rumbletubble 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I do think he spied on Herman Cain as well.

He had to quit the race because of some "Leaked info" as well.

[–]AuntieVodka 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Obama pulled similar shit whilst running for office in Chicago.

[–]HumbleSaltSalesmanMI 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Chicago has a notoriously corrupt political class.

[–]ReaverG 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep, Cain was surging and suddenly a group of women came forth with allegations against him. Which sounds very familiar.

Whether it was true and uncovered from spying or just a smear campaign, I'm not sure.

[–]TootenbacherCAN 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Herman Cain sued the women and won, but that was never reported in the media.

[–]Dom__Tullipso 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump baited obama into spying on him by pushing the birther issue, knowing it would be unconstitutional, and that he'd use it to bust Barry after he finally became president

[–]ibelieveinthedonaldVA 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

agreed

[–]mejoseph9876 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Forged Birth Certificate + Illegal Spying to Cover it up = Scandal Free President

[–]Mother_of_gainsNJ 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This makes sense.

[–]j0e_the_an0nUSA 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Team Trump has been working on this at least since 2000 and probably even earlier than that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2000

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[–]johnbillaby 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course he did. And a shitload of people were involved in all of the illegal spying. And their underpants are super dirty these days from all of the pooping.

[–]KingBrolyUSA 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's also my thinking. Until Trump came along and pushed it, it wasn't much of an issue.

[–]TheGuyAboveMeEatsPoo 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does anyone else recall public opponents of Obama that shortly after had their reputations destroyed? Seems if we can establish a pattern, it would add a lot more smoke to that fire.

[–]JudgejudeTX 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Very good explanation. Obama was in the hot seat and couldn't find anything to counter Trump with, eh? No wonder he is hiding out in some south seas island somewhere. He's a low life criminal and knows his days are numbered. Can't wait to see how this unfolds. MAGA!🇺🇸

[–]johnnybain 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Infowars dropped some verified documents from joe arpio sp? Like two weeks ago. Pretty much it had been since like 2007

[–]LeighDeplorable 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree. Snoopy Barry has a habit of gathering information on foes...

[–]GhorlackMI 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this is plausible. Now, let's get some proof, 'pedes.

[–]okieghost 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interesting theory. This is basically what Hillary did to Kim DotCom so wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

[–]GeorgeForemanGrillzUSA 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was actually because of the wiretaps that Obama found out that the birth certificate registrar in Hawaii was in contact with Trump so he had him killed.

[–]HumbleSaltSalesmanMI 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would lend a lot of credence to the birthers. Also, can your imagine the shit that would hour the fan if it turns out he also spied on Hillary?

[–]TheRadChad 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think Jones said Obama started looking into him 1 year after office. Idk how legit that is, but you are right he's been on trump for a while. I wonder how long people held on to the "grab her by the pussy" tape for

[–]CrazyCapitalistGA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And Trump is so clean that he found nothing with multiple years and multiple agencies. We made the right choice, Pedes!

[–]Cool_Breeze561 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stupid Tuvok, I thought you Vulcans had more self control than that!

[–]James_Smith1234 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obama was abusing his power to find dirt on Trump to try to counter it.

FTFY

[–]lurkwellmyfriendsNC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No doubt about it. It's fucking Alinsky: Trump/whoever provide credible evidence that Ocommie is not a US citizen ... Out come the government henchmen/goons and the media smear campaign against Trump/associates just to '''discredit''' their evidence.

These are the same fucking people that sell baby parts, incite race riots for political gain, politicize federal agencies to target American citizens who 'aren't on the right team', and use fake news to deceive and indoctrinate the masses.

Of course they spied on everyone. The ideals of America itself are the enemies of people like this. I thank God every day that the damage is not worse than it is after that era (error). It's still pretty fucking bad, and we're mired in a left/right globalist/nationalist civil war.

[–]clbrto 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

...or he's just a bad (or sick) guy. President Trump is always right, so maybe Obama is hiding out because he's sick.

[–]packmule4120 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point ☝️

[–]TheGettysburgAddressPA -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No doubt in my mind Obama was spying on alot of people and business to shakedown they down for political, financial and business espionage.

[–]MrBawwws 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just like Hillary, why would he do shit. I'm glad he's in but where's the law & order when it comes to the lawfucking politicians?

[–]BrewCityNinjaUSA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I haven't heard this yet, very interesting!

[–]RandyContractorKEK -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is this around the same time where Trump began to get audited every year?