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Chad's pleasurable experiences should be taxed just like wealth. (self.Incels)

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Just like people are taxed progressively, Chad should also be taxed for the pleasurable experiences he has in life. This tax would then be distributed towards incels to help alleviate disparity.

Because it would be impractical to directly give Chad's pleasurable experiences to incels, this is how I propose it would be done. A dollar estimate would be made on Chad's experiences, which would be calculated by averaging the dollar amount that incels would pay to have these experiences. Then Chad would have to pay a tax percentage on these experiences (say like 30% or whatever the local tax rate is).

How could anyone disagree with this? It sounds like a perfectly fair system and would help fix inequality.

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[–]currentissuesofme 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

There isn't an even remotely objective way to measure the pleasure of certain experiences.

Beyond that it's also an extreme regulation that would never pass. Unrealistic solutions aren't solutions

[–]gstvtrp[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There isn't an even remotely objective way to measure the pleasure of certain experiences.

There is. You ask people how much they would be willing to pay to have those experiences. Then you can use statistical methods to calculate given those estimates.

[–]currentissuesofme 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A system that relies on good faith wouldn't be successful.

An obvious reason is that money has a floor (zero dollars) so no ceiling, and means aren't useful for that sort of data. As well people in this system (the majority of whom are not incels) would not want to pay for things, so they would just give low/zero valuation for everything

[–]gstvtrp[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

it doesn't have to be means. I imagine most things would get a low valuations but some things would also get a very high valuation.

[–]Qardest 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Genetic advantage have strong similarity with wealth. It is accumulated through generations and it builds upon itself. People need to admit the existense of halo affect and fact of genetic advantage. But societal decision makers do not want to lose their edge, just like oligarchial elites who lobbying unfair laws.

Even those who suffer from genetic disadvantage are now mind controlled into thinking that they are "temporary embarassed millionares" and all that needed is to be a good hardworking drone. Few good people that they are met through their lives make it even worse. They give the false hope which is bad trait in cutthroat eviroment.

The whole system was set up to fail for certain people.

[–]gstvtrp[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another part of this proposed system would be to write off the analogous of losses. So bad experiences could be used to reduce your tax burden.

I really think such a tax system, encompassing every little detail would create the most perfectly fair society.

[–]mercy-kill 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Sometimes I can't tell if people here are trolling or just... really, really delusional.

How are you even going to be able to monitor other people and their experiences? Furthermore, what constitutes a Chad? Anyone who has had sex? Do women and children who haven't had sex benefit from this scheme? Widows?

How would this be paid to incels and why would most of the world ever elect to pay into a proposal like this?

You guys really need to do research into your weird power fantasies before you let them out of your head.

[–]Monocled 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You big dumb dumb. You're trying to argue in his logic.

But to answer your question, yeah OP is that delusional.

[–]mercy-kill 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just feel like I have to try and reason with these rednecks. I don't want another Angryman running around.

[–]oddomaton 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sometimes I can't tell if people here are trolling or just... really, really delusional.

*Proceeds to take post 100% seriously and doesn't mention trolling again.

[–]gstvtrp[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

How are you even going to be able to monitor other people and their experiences?

We have the technology to do this now. Lots of people already hook up through digital means such as Tinder. Incels can also help monitor.

Furthermore, what constitutes a Chad?

There is a spectrum.

How would this be paid to incels

My post stated this would be distributed in dollar amounts to incels, kind of like Universal Basic Income.

why would most of the world ever elect to pay into a proposal like this?

Because it's a more fair system than the one we currently have?

[–]HumansWillComeForYou 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Big brother is watching you have fun, and you'll pay for it!

[–]zee_spirit 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If anybody on here falls into a spectrum, I'm kind of thinking it's you, op.

[–]oddomaton 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A joke about mental illness. Stay classy.

[–]gstvtrp[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I fall onto the low side of the Chad spectrum.

[–]mercy-kill 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, but that's called spying and violates too many privacy laws to count. I also feel like most incels don't just casually have a national database of every man in their country just lying around. It's unenforceable.

Again, what constitutes a Chad? A "spectrum" isn't an answer. If you're going to try and make this legislation, you need rules and regulations. What's going to stop people from identifying as incel on tax forms and the like in your weird, dystopian alternate universe?

So it's essentially welfare... which already exists as a government benefit in most western countries.

How does it make anything fairer? Aside for just how ridiculous and impossible this would be to enforce, you'd be compensating sexless men with money to do... what, with, exactly? How does giving you money make it fair?

Shouldn't you want to fix the way that society views people in your position instead of giving them other reasons to hate you? Can you even read what you're writing?

[–]gstvtrp[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, but that's called spying and violates too many privacy laws to count.

Only because we have weird notions of privacy in our current society. It isn't considered a violation of privacy for the government to know how much money somebody makes.

I also feel like most incels don't just casually have a national database of every man in their country just lying around.

No, but the government does.

Again, what constitutes a Chad? A "spectrum" isn't an answer.

Yes it does. Just as there's a spectrum of wealth, there's a spectrum of people who have better lives. This proposed tax system would account for that.

What's going to stop people from identifying as incel on tax forms and the like in your weird, dystopian alternate universe?

The aforementioned rules and regulations? Also, monitoring and penalties.

How does it make anything fairer?

It smooths over all inequalities, not just wealth. So even racial privilege would be considered.

you'd be compensating sexless men with money to do... what, with, exactly? How does giving you money make it fair?

The money could be used to improve their lives. What do people on welfare do with their money? Cmon man, you have to at least try to think here.

Shouldn't you want to fix the way that society views people in your position instead of giving them other reasons to hate you?

That's like asking "shouldn't poor people be trying to convince rich people to donate money instead of giving them other reasons to hate them?" Sure you can try but it might not work. And what if they don't?