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You know what the reaction was on 4chan — the troll site now best-known for catapulting Donald Trump to the presidency — on the day James Jackson was arrested for driving a sword through 66-year-old Timothy Caughman? Disappointment. Disappointment in the fact that he had such a low body count.

What has he even achieved? Not even a good kill count. Just One, Old, man. Now Brevik. Brevik was an hero my lad. Imagine working all that shit out then planning it. He was not wrong either. They were indoctrinating kids.

Over on the AskTrumpSupporters subreddit, one user casually suggested that violent white supremacists were the result of “anti-white sentiment.”

I think that White Supremacist gangs are a symptom of the racial problems we have in this country and how they are covered up. There is a major intersection of anti-white sentiment, black on white crime, and criminal culture combined with people at the top only looking at one side of the equation ( handfuls of isolated racist whites rather than the racial motivations of thousands of affiliated criminal gangs) no doubt leads to white radicalization and white supremacy.

We need to acknowledge the very real race problems we have in America, unfortunately it looks like it is only getting worse with the left doubling down with accusations of racist or nazi everytime they lose.

Jackson’s worldview and ideas, which he went on about at length in a jailhouse interview earlier this week, are completely, frighteningly familiar to me, as someone who has been researching and writing about the “manosphere” and white supremacist parts of the internet for several years. Like many others, Jackson’s ideas and plans were fomented on Nazi sites like Stormfront. Like many, many others, Jackson’s views come in at the intersection of both racism and misogyny. He claimed his goal was to kill as many black men as possible in order to keep white women from dating them. He told the New York Daily News that his greatest wish was for said white women to look at his actions and decide against dating black men, because perhaps he had some kind of point.

“Well, if that guy feels so strongly about it, maybe I shouldn’t do it,’” he told reporters, imagining what he hoped would be the reaction of white women to his murder of a 66-year-old black man.

The combination of racism and sexism among these men has resulted in an overarching obsession and hysteria regarding interracial dating. You’ve got a bunch of asshats who believe they are “owed” women, and they deeply fear black men are taking the women they believe they are rightfully entitled to. This is what they mean, largely, when they talk about “white genocide.” Not only is there a massive conspiracy to keep them from having sex, they believe, but also a plan to kill them. This is what they think.

On the Nazi pick-up artist blog “Chateau Heartiste,” Jackson’s views are echoed, ever so casually.

Equalism is more than a big lie; it’s a corruption of civilized man’s soul. As the good doctor Thiel explains, femcuntery will only achieve wrecking power in a nation of degenerated men unable and unwilling to act to preserve their culture and protect their tribe. Women are followers and will follow their nation right into the abyss if it guarantees their social standing among peers; as I’ve been saying, it’ll take shitlord men with big balls to bring their women to heel and their nation back to greatness.

Perhaps my first encounter with the term “cuck” was when I wrote a silly little article about White Supremacists losing their shit about a Nickelodeon show called “Bella and The Bulldogs.” The director of the show was a black man who had previously made a B movie called “The Cuckold” — about a white man with a fetish for watching his wife have sex with other men, specifically black men. They believed, sincerely that this show was being used to promote cuckoldry, as a fetish, to children. They were specifically furious over the fact that the “cool guy” and potential romantic interest on the show was black. They screamed and howled over the fact that they believed young white girls were being brainwashed to prefer black men.

The site I wrote it for got rid of comments in a redesign, but there were thousands. I was screamed at for days. They made various memes of my face. Over a fucking Nickelodeon show. And what scared me most was their absolute sincerity. The absolute despair. The kind of fury and anger and despair that most people only reserve for someone who just stabbed their baby in the face. Over, again, a Nickelodeon show.

This is where the whole “cuck” thing came about first — in white supremacist forums, in which idiots sincerely discussed their dreaded fear that the world, and black men in particular, were conspiring to deprive them of the nubile young white girls they felt entitled to.

But like the word “cuck,” these views are not just confined to shadowy, secluded parts of the internet anymore. On more mainstream conservative sites, it’s not at all uncommon to see people posting variations on the “diversity is code for anti-white” theme. There is obsessive talk of “Western Civilization” — by which they mean “white people.” And I very rarely see these people being told to fuck off.

It is entirely the same thing Steve King — a Congressman — was talking about the other day when he was on his charming “demographics are destiny” rant.

You have these people with “mildly” racist and sexist views to begin with. They’re mad at Black Lives Matter, they think women are lying about the pay gap, that we lie about rape. They are furious that other people often don’t like them and don’t want to socialize with, or — perhaps more importantly — date them because of these views. Thus the constant “But they call us racists and sexists and it’s UNFAIR!” shit. They get into these forums with a bunch of people who feel just as they do, and they become echo chambers in which these views are shared by the majority of members. And because it’s an ongoing thing, the stakes keep getting raised. This is how radicalization happens. This is how James Jackson happens.

In the worst of these forums, violence and murder are far from taboo subjects. Just yesterday, in a post on the misogynistic Sluthate forum (formerly PUAHate, the site notoriously frequented by mass murderer Elliot Rodger) titled “If you actually killed/raped a bunch of sluts…” anonymous men lamented the fact that killing women wouldn’t be as effective as they would like.

If you actually punished a bunch of sluts for their slutty behavior, all you would do is create martyrs. Feminists would be marching in the streets. I mean, Jesus Christ, feminists were marching in the streets simply because Trump got elected, and all he did was talk shit. He didn’t actually do anything to them.

So, what can you do? Watch the world slowly kill itself, I guess. People won’t listen. They’ll just keep getting more slutty and lazy until the bubble pops, when the economy finally collapses. Then, their immorality will hit home.

When Hillary Clinton referred to “deplorables,” these are the people she was talking about and she was absolutely, 100% correct to do so. They are not just deplorable, they are straight up evil, and at this point, they are psychotic. My biggest fear with a Trump presidency was that these people would be emboldened, and to some degree, I would say that is starting to come to pass.

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  • Mary Sandoras
    • schmannity

      $4 billion x 35% = $1.4 billion. Seems high for a net worth or approval.

      • Mary Sandoras

        Is that Trump math?

    • Bill D. Burger

      At a bit over 2 whole months in and this is his ‘Honeymoon Period,’ I don’t think his actually reaching negative numbers in the polls is out of the question.

      • schmannity

        For their honeymoon, the groom went to Mar A Lago and America went to Flint, MI.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        Eh, he will never, ever dip much below 24% approval, as that’s the approximate percentage of the USAmerica voting population who were stupid enough to pull the lever next to his name. And they will never, ever be smart or self aware enough to admit a mistake.

        • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

          They can’t. They’ve been so indoctrinated that their entire ego and self-worth is tied up in “being right”. If they admit that he sucks, they have to admit that they fell for a pathetic, transparent con job and they can’t bear that. The only way they’ll ever turn on him is if he betrays his/their racism and sexism. Then, they’ll chuck him overboard but I don’t think he’ll ever do that. Those two things are all he has and he knows it.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Head still planted where the sun don’t shine 6%

      • Mary Sandoras

        Their probably with holding judgement until the country collaspes.

        • BigBoppa ~ Résistent

          And 3/4 of them won’t notice the collapse if their XBox keeps working.

    • Jennaratrix

      What the FUCK is wrong with those 35% people? What does he have to do, rape someone on live television while giving Putin a handie, being pee’d on by hookers, and having rubles dropped on his head? Christ. If ever there was a case for polls being way, way off…

      Oh, and you’re welcome for that visual.

      • onedollarjuana

        Actually, that might increase his approval rating.

        • Jennaratrix

          *sigh* You’re right. That’s just so messed up.

      • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

        They’re FauxNews bots. They don’t even hear about 80% of the shit he’s doing and what they do hear about, they don’t understand or are misled about. They’re also to incurious to go looking for answers as to why so many people hate him.

  • h4rr4r

    See this is a topic where I can speak with some authority, being a white dude I can tell you that sluts are great. Black guys are fine, I guess, I mean they are people so as good or bad as the rest, but not like they are as awesome as sluts. Unless the black guys are sluts, then while not for me, I am sure lots of folks appreciate that.

    • “M”

      “See this is a topic where I can speak with some authority, being a white dude”

      That assumption in its entirety is generally where the trouble tends to start, yes.

      *nods*

      • h4rr4r

        So a white dude can’t tell you about being a white dude?

        Seems like the one thing I should know about.That settles it, I am going to go ask my wife.

        I also know about driving a Cmax, since I own one.

        • ShabbyCat

          As a non-white dude, what the hell is Cmax?

          • h4rr4r

            A car, made by Ford.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Mary Sandoras

      Cruz is one dingleberry that would not be missed. Best of luck to O’Rouke.

    • Red Bird Ω

      Good.

  • Dolmance

    I detest white men, but I never tried to hurt anybody. Jesus.

    • Red Bird Ω

      :(

    • willi0000000

      i don’t know what i did . . . but i’m sorry.

  • Lizzietish81
    • CriticalDragon1177

      That’s still enough to enrage these sick, moronic racist losers.

      • It’s twooo, it’s twooo……

      • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

        Yes, it is. The sad thing is that no studio would have the guts to release that movie today if it were brand new.

        • CriticalDragon1177

          I wouldn’t be too sure about that. For the most part, the only people who would be really offended by Blazing Saddles are racists.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    He told the New York Daily News that his greatest wish was for said white women to look at his actions and decide against dating black men, because perhaps he had some kind of point.

    “Well, if that guy feels so strongly about it, maybe I shouldn’t do it,’” he told reporters, imagining what he hoped would be the reaction of white women to his murder of a 66-year-old black man.

    You really think that’s how white women will react to this?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/160967dd0bbfc133bdb7c0de13581408a92c04c2809f78aa00a3b83a422a28cd.gif

    • MynameisBlarney

      Damn…he’s dumber than advertised.

    • Red Bird Ω

      Consider the fact that 53% of white women voted for Trump. So he might be right.

      • Jennaratrix

        I have never been so happy to be in the 47%.

      • Bmaccnm

        Humbly (no, really) how is that 53% figure derived? 53% of the electorate? Of the voters in 2016, which were less than 50% of the electorate? 53% of the white female population? Honestly, I don’t understand that figure.

        • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

          53% of the white women who voted, voted for Trump.

  • MynameisBlarney

    As a white dude, I can honestly say that there are a LOT…(far too many in fact), of white men that make me ashamed to share a demographic with their ignorant, hateful asses.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Living in N. Florida (aka Lower Alabama) and being a white male myself, I hear you brother.

      • Longstreet63

        Ditto from flyover country.

    • Red Bird Ω

      People like you outnumber them so maybe you guys could try being a little bit louder and drown out their voices.

      • MynameisBlarney

        That’s exactly what I’m doin.

      • Liberoid Ron

        But being loud is impolite.

  • Oblios_Cap

    I never realized that I was owed nubile young women. Now I’m at the point where I’m really not interested in them anymore. I prefer mine closer to my own age.

    • Liberoid Ron

      They really should have included that in the manual.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    Weirdly enough, every time one of these guys does something violent, I go outside and just start sexing up every melanin-gifted person I see.

  • ariel_gee_398

    It’s just like that Beatles song:
    “And in the end;
    the love you take;
    is equal to the number of black men you can kill in the name of shaming white sluts.”

    • Msgr_MΩment

      I always play that track backwards, so I’ve never heard that.

      • It’s only when you play it forward that you hear the satanic messages.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      Yeah, that Ringo really had the turn of phrase, didn’t he? Or was it Keith?

    • Jennaratrix

      Catchy.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Gayer Than Thou

      Sounds like a place in Portland that sells artisanal dildos and Kegel exercise eggs.

      • Bmaccnm

        There is a place like that in Portland.

  • CriticalDragon1177

    I really feel horrible for James Jackson, and whatever family he may have had.

    Beyond that, this only makes it even more upsetting that the white nationalists’ choice for president, Donald J Trump, made it to the White House. If anything, him and his advisers’ overt racism and misogyny is emboldening these sick losers. How does it feel now everyone who couldn’t vote for Hillary because she wasn’t the perfect progressive?

  • Chadwells

    Huh. Cuckold…it’s so obvious. I learned something today. Thank you. I’m serious! Did everyone know this? I was always curious and now I feel dumb.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    So, what can you do? Watch the world slowly kill itself, I guess.

    You first, sweetcheeks.

  • What I’ve noted over the years, and particularly the past few, is that most of these white supremacists, particularly of the internet variety, are real losers in life. They’re looking for a scapegoat for the reality that they’re working in a low-paid dead end job, can’t get dates, and about the only thing they’ve got going for them (in their mind) is… they’re white. Obviously, the only reason they’re not getting those jobs, women, and what they consider their due is because of some “liberal” conspiracy. Couldn’t possibly be because they’re poorly educated slobs with no prospects, now could it?

    • Oblios_Cap

      But.. they have common sense!

      • Two of the major eye-rolling things for me is when they talk about the “pure white race” and “white culture.” Which, any study of history would show that who is considered “white” has varied drastically over the years, besides the various conquests, invasions, and so on which were part and parcel of Europe’s history. As to “white culture,” which one? Almost every single nationality in Europe has its own culture, and many of them considered the others “barbaric” at some point.

        • Oblios_Cap

          Well, if it hadn’t been for the Crusades and being exposed to the Muslim ways and knowledge, the white race would still stink from not bathing and not know what zero was.

          • Longstreet63

            Hey, Roman numerals are Number I with me!

        • Nockular cavity

          The most recent example is how now, the Russians are “Western.”

          They weren’t considered as such before.

          • Let’s not forget the Italians and Greeks.

          • h4rr4r

            Brown people, yes what about them?

          • h4rr4r

            They aren’t now. Eastern Europe begins where the wall was.

        • h4rr4r

          This!

        • aureolaborealis

          You lost them all at ‘study’.

        • jerrrrrrrricho

          How about Nazi bands? If you want your music to be exclusively “white” and free of any other influences, shouldn’t you ban rocknroll completely? Maybe just listen to 18th century chamber music or Celtic stuff?

  • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

    All of this shit…I have dated white people, Black men, Hispanic people – I don’t care about color, I care about chemistry and attraction and connection.

    I’ve told here before -I have been approached more than once on dating sites by older white males wanting to to act out their Cuck fantasies. I told one guy – “If I’m in bed with 2 Gorgeous Black men, I sure don’t need you there.”

    It’s a fetish about Black men, really no different than the way many guys fetish about me. It’s dehumanizing, it’s a perfect indicator as to why these assholes can’t get laid.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I agree, with these guys, it’s a sick, toxic fetish. But I think there’s at least theoretically a kind of ‘healthy’ cuckoldry – a guy wants to see his woman have sex with other men because that turns him on. Hey – whatever Simonizes your toaster, amirite?

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

        Oh yeah, see that’s called “Hotwife”. I could get behind that lifestyle choice. XD

        • Lance Thrustwell

          There’s probably some distinction to be made between hotwifery and cuckoldry – I imagine there’s some aspect of humiliation/dominance to the cuckold scene, whereas hotwifery is more like pure spectatorship?

          If so, then cuckoldry is playing around with negative vibes and maybe even self-loathing as fuel for arousal. Seems like something that could go wrong very easily.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

            Exactly – to me, swinging and Hotwife aren’t about fetishizing Black men and their supposed sexual prowess, and never about humiliation.

            It’s about mutual shared pleasure, chosen by each participant. Consenting adults consenting to playtime has no downsides I can see.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    This is terrible news for Lili von Shtupp. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9JqbCH4aVw

    • The Wanderer

      Great scene.

  • memzilla Ω

    “Someone needs to investigate how these terrorists become self-radicalized,” no Jeff Sessions DOJ hireling will ever say.

  • Chyron HR

    “You know what the reaction was on 4chan —
    the troll site now best-known for catapulting Donald Trump to the
    presidency — on the day James Jackson was arrested for driving a sword
    through 66-year-old Timothy Caughman?”

    Probably “Steven Universe sucks” and “Would I die if I ate 1,000 chicken wings?”

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      They can fuck right off with that Steven Universe BS. They’re just mad that it’s done by a chick.

      • redarmyzombie

        If if loving alien warrior women is wrong, I don’t want to be right.

        • Liberoid Ron

          This is true: The g/f is so much like Amethyst (except for colour (she’s full Irish) and few inches of height) it’s freaky. Amethysts are even her favourite semi-precious stones. No, I haven’t tried fusing with her, but then, neither of us dances all that well.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

            Amethyst is my Birthstone & my fave on SU. :)

          • Liberoid Ron

            Does this surprise me? This does not!

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

            Figured it wouldn’t :D

      • Liberoid Ron

        And that ‘weirdo’ Steven has a g/f while they don’t.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    You know what makes my testosterone start to boil and overflow? What makes me want to defend my ‘tribe’, to stand up, grab a bat or a cleaver, and take to the streets to defend a superior culture and a clearly better way of life?

    Guys like these.

    • h4rr4r

      Yes!
      Punching Nazis is always right!

      People actually tried to debate this! What the fuck is wrong with these folks?

      • Paganish
      • King Beauregard

        Well, there’s always the argument that punching Nazis for their beliefs opens the door to punching others for their beliefs. For example: a lot of black people are skeptical that there will ever be racial equality so long as white people are running the show. And they’re probably right about that, by the way: whites have no incentive to rearrange society to be more inclusive and fair to others, so they’ll probably never get around to it. And I say it’s therefore reasonable to conclude that blacks will need to outnumber whites by a big margin for change to occur.

        So, do I deserve to be punched for opining that? While I am not advocating violence towards anyone, you could feel I’m implying violence, and that’s grounds for a punching, right?

        • h4rr4r

          Since you did not declare yourself a Nazi, no.

          See how easy this is?

      • Jason Roder

        There are some folks who insist that “punching Nazis” might turn into “punch any white guy ’cause he might be a Nazi”. Personally, I haven’t seen it myself.

        • h4rr4r

          Again, no.
          The line that has to be crossed is to be a Nazi. Very simple rule.

          • Jason Roder

            I wasn’t actually disagreeing with you, hence the “I haven’t seen it myself”. I admit I phrased that poorly, though.

    • Yup. My grandnephew is biracial, and any of these idiots who tried harassing my niece and him would suddenly find a lot of rednecks coming down on him like a ton of bricks. One of the family mottos is “Don’t fuck with us.”

    • ron

      I feel the same exact way about people like you. Go figure.

  • MynameisBlarney

    This is the kind of shit that makes me want to date a POC out of spite…
    Even though that’s got to be the WORST reason ever to date someone.

    “Hey, I’m Blarney, I couldn’t help but notice that you are not white. Would you like to go out sometime? Just to piss off the nazis?”

    Yeah…I think I need to work on that opener a bit.

    • Oblios_Cap

      That “just to piss off the Nazis” line might work.

      • ariel_gee_398

        “You’re cute. Wanna grab a drink and piss off some Nazis?” is really not bad as far as lines go.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Not bad at all really.

  • elviouslyqueer

    I’m sure his firm ideological stance is going to make him lots of friends at Riker’s.

    • MynameisBlarney

      I’d imagine that Rikers has more than a few AB’s that would gladly take him.
      Hell for all we know, this was his initiation into the gang.

  • timpundit

    It’s getting to the point where I feel like locking my car doors when pulling up to a white guy at a traffic light.

    • MynameisBlarney

      For real though!

    • h4rr4r

      Bullets go right through car doors, locked or not.

      Getting to the point where I am considering a concealed carry.

      • Yellerduck

        Like a concealed pistol on the body and a concealed shotgun in the trunk. Pistol serves to give you time to get to the trunk.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • redarmyzombie

      Hey, where all the white women at?

  • Jennaratrix

    Look at that face. It’s so damn PUNCHABLE.

    Alternatively, say it with me – he seems nice. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f26e08e848c34c19fbc62c59dfde380b49c1bc60aeac82d45ed1d819f4be6f1.jpg

    • h4rr4r
      • Oblios_Cap

        Or a “Cruz” as it’s known in America.

        • h4rr4r

          I think technically a Cruz is a stronger version of that.

          Since a Cruz would then of course include you chewing off your own hand afterward.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Punchable like a chad-filled voting ballot.

      • Jennaratrix

        Um, right. That’s what I meant.

    • The Wanderer

      “Punchable?” No.
      “Deserving of the Gasoline and Coal Shovel Treatment?”
      Fuck, yes.
      (blahblahwithblahvotesblahblah)

    • aureolaborealis

      I see he’s got his ‘fascy’ haircut, as one does.

    • Liberoid Ron

      I recognise the expression.
      Sorry, Charlie, he who dealt it, smelt it.

  • Oblios_Cap

    So these are the same jackwads that would be sleeping with all their slave men and women of color if only slavery were still allowed? I’m sure they would a rationale for that.

    • Liberoid Ron

      Yes and no. They definitely think of themselves as the inheritors of the mantle of Suthu’n White Gentlemanliness, but 150 years ago they’d have been plain ol’ white trash just like they are now.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    With each passing year, I am definitely getting more lazy, but despite my best efforts, getting more slutty has proved to be a bit of a challenge.

    • elviouslyqueer

      I totally feel ya.

      Oh, wait.

      • Oblios_Cap

        stop it, you twose!

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

      You gotta push yourself, meet the challenge!

    • timpundit

      Yeah. I look back on my slut decades and wonder where I ever had the energy and then I remember…I was a lot younger back then, and in good shape. I think about how I used to be just leaving for the club at midnight…while I am lying in bed at 10:30.

    • desida

      Right? Being lazy and being slutty are inherently opposed concepts. No matter how much these guys like to bitch that “women have it so easy” or whatever, even the hottest woman (or gay dude) has to put in more effort than simply getting naked and waiting for guys to trip and fall penis-first into their orifices.

  • Jonny On Maui

    It’s good to see that the racist sites use positive feedback as control. What could go wrong?

    :: insert savior weeping here::

  • Msgr_MΩment

    OT.
    Great news, people. Before Obamacare, everyone had healthcare.
    The BugHammer(TM) says it’s so.
    h/t to friend of this mommyblog, Charlie “Charles” Pierce.
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a54200/chuck-todd-tom-delay-interview/

  • Lascauxcaveman

    All the snowflakes are white.

    Can’t wait for the spring thaw.

  • Vincent Ricola

    These fuckers can suck my interracial lady balls.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Go on…

  • Listen up white supremacists….
    If you stop acting like fucking white supremacists, you MAY get more dates! Just saying! There is a reason that is kinda a turn off to women who are not into that! Because it is fucked up and gross! For real!
    If you want women to date more men, and specifically you, the problem is YOU.
    The end!

  • Jennaratrix

    Wait, femcuntery? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. You know, these guys aren’t making a great case for why there SHOULDN’T be a massive conspiracy to keep them from having sex and also too a plan to kill them.

    • Right?
      It is like they are basically saying we are horrible losers and terrible people and no one will date us so we should make them!
      It is all o.O Maybe not be horrible loser and terrible people? Have ya even tried it, laddie buck?

      • Liberoid Ron

        They’ve been in the echo chamber for a large portion of their lives. Who would they learn from? Everyone they know is exactly like them.

    • h4rr4r

      They are losers, who can’t have functional relationships for even a couple hours, try to remember that.

      These are the guys who could not get laid in highschool and college. Think about it. To have relations at that age all you have to do is breathe and try not to be a total asshole 100% of the time.

      • Jennaratrix

        Lord, you don’t have to try to remember that. It’s just so evident in everything they ever say. I mean, I’d feel bad for them for having to live in those heads, but my dog they are gross alleged-people.

      • aureolaborealis

        My nephew talks like this. He’s married (she seems to sympathize with his views). They have a daughter.

        • h4rr4r

          He thinks they are losers too or he talks like one of these losers?

  • therblig

    white MEN aren’t listening. white pieces of shit are.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    Let me start off by saying this male caucasian wishes he could nazi stomp any of these low lifes but what really hurt was the remark those kids at Utoya deserved it.

    Pictures of Breivik we have all seen but these are the faces we should all remember:
    https://buddhakat.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/victims-oslo.jpg

    • goddamn it.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        Yup, almost a hundred young lives lost and although I am all for free speech the citations Robyn showed, I am glad that in Europe most of them would be not allowed here and could lead to persecution. In a way we have learned from our very dark history.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Anyone who seriously defends Brevik needs to spend a little time in a small cabin, in the woods. Where no one can hear the… ’empathy training’ that they are receiving.

      • Terrirmares

        Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours & have longer with friends and family! !dg233c:
        On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
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      • Jo Mathie

        The thing that always confuses me (aside from the horror) about Brevik is that he was a white supremacist but the vast majority of the people he slaughtered were white. How is that a call to arms for other idiots?

    • Lefty Frizzell

      I saw a TV thing (longer news item, can’t remember the show) about proposing a memorial design, and both Mrs Frizzell and myself were blown away by how articulate and aware of the world and their place in it the young Norwegians were. It was good to see.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        Welcome to the world of the scandinavians and the Benelux.

    • jerrrrrrrricho

      It depresses the hell out of me to see those faces.

      What a waste. All those young lives that won’t ever be realized, all because of that guy.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        Celebrate them. Go out each day, enjoying life and have no fear. That’s how you honor them.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    This just in ….
    To address opioid crisis, Trump to give Chris Christie the helm (CS Monitor)
    New Jersey Governor Christie will head a commission to look at ways to exercise federal funds and programs to deal with the ongoing opioid epidemic in the United States.

    • ariel_gee_398

      FAKE NEWS: “New Jersey Governor Christie will head a commission to look at ways to exercise”

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        REAL NEWS: “New Jersey Governor Christie will head a commission to look at ways to exercise the 5th amendment when his fat ass is dragged into Federal court about Bridgegate”

    • therblig

      keep in mind that trumpy’s campaign response to AARP’s question on the opiod crisis was “first, we have to find a way to stop these opiods from coming into our country”.

      • *facepalm*

      • Well, we are always bitching about Big Pharma.

        • BosGrl

          Big Pharma is complicit in the murder of 52K people in the US last year.

          • “M”

            At least.

            Didn’t they drop something like 400,000 opioid pills on West Virginia? There are barely that many people there.

          • BosGrl

            Yes.

          • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

            780 million in the last six years. That’s like 430 pills for every man, woman, and child in the state.

      • h4rr4r

        Well it’s those darn celestials, always smoking opium and building railroads.

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      He certainly won’t be missed in Jersey…

    • Hole finally got a jerb!!!
      Will he be able to fund this while in prison?

      • therblig

        OT, but one of his henchpersons, bill baroni just got 2 years in prison. up next, the ironically named Bridget

    • Jonny On Maui

      Chris Christie, Chief Glutton, heading a commission on addiction. What could go wrong?

    • h4rr4r

      A large fellow will be dealing with elephant tranquilizer?
      Does this not strike anybody as just the setup for a joke?

    • Undocumented Skwerl!

      Is this another one of Trump’s mysterious committees that is announced but never meets?

    • BosGrl

      Christie has actually been human about the opioid crisis. I am going to try to be optimistic that any kind of commission will do some good, at the very least to draw more attention to understanding addiction. However, I hope Christie’s commission will make it very clear that cutting money from recovery programs is part of the problem and not the solution.

      • therblig

        even in the face of nj’s 11th credit downgrade on christie’s watch, i do agree with you on this.

        • BosGrl

          Yes and he gets no other brownie points from me except for that one time he backed up a Muslim friend.

      • TakingAmes

        I think he’ll be reporting to Kushner. Who hates him for sending his daddy to jail. So I imagine there will be some kind of vengeance happening behind the scenes.

        • BosGrl

          Great.

        • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

          Because of course.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Rush Limbaugh wasn’t available?

      • Liberoid Ron

        He seems perfect. He definitely wouldn’t allow anyone else to get their hands on ’em.

    • Red Bird Ω

      Notice that the solution is not to get though on crime or start another drug war like during the crack epidemic? Wonder why?

      • TakingAmes

        Well, these poor white people we’ve been ignoring for thirty years are addicted. They cain’t hep it!

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      That’s just a bridge too far….

    • Liberoid Ron

      WHAT Federal funds?

  • MeerkatsRMammals

    Fuck everything about this! I saw this guy was from MD & guessed at the area b/c I know there are many Nazis. Question for these guys, how exactly does one know for sure who the “sluts” are? During HS years, I was called a “slut” when I can assure you…couldn’t be further from the truth. My outfits/attitude/sass made me a slut. You can’t judge a slut by her cover.

    • Slut is any woman who will not sleep with them.
      No. Really.

      • h4rr4r

        Me no understand, to me that sounds like the opposite of a slut.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Yes! This. It’s like a dark, horrible version of that joke from ‘Fear of a Black Hat’: “The difference between bitches and hoes is, a ho will fuck anybody. A bitch will fuck anybody – except you!”

      • resistance_fighter_rosenbomb

        Yup. Expressing any independence or sexual autonomy means we will get called names. I once got called a bitch for choosing not to date someone! So saying no means I’m a bitch? Cool, I guess.

      • Isn’t that kind of backwards, I thought sluts were women who would sleep with anyone, even the dregs?

        • redarmyzombie

          Maybe in Not-Opposite-Land…

        • CogitoErgoBibo

          In this case, it’s the fact that it would appear (to them) that a slut will sleep with anyone other than them. Doesn’t matter if they do or not. It’s that a slut isn’t particularly choosy…other than “not them.” Butthurt=slut labeling.

  • DainBramage

    Robyn, you are a very strong person. If I made myself read those sites, I’d be vomiting all day long.

    • Jennaratrix

      I was thinking this, too. I don’t know how you do it and stay sane, and not-crying.

      • Robyn Pennacchia

        I did freak out for a bit when I was writing a more in-depth piece on them for Bust that required like a month’s worth of research. But I feel like it’s really important to be investigating them and aware of what they’re pushing because, as I mentioned, it DOES filter into the mainstream.

        • Jennaratrix

          I agree, 100%. Thank you for doing it so we don’t have to, and for continuing to put this shit front and center. That’s $5/month well spent right there.

  • Lizzietish81
    • The Wanderer

      Damn straight.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I honestly consider that a beautiful song.

  • Nockular cavity

    I would have a hard time not with voting the shit out of someone who told me that Anders Fucking Brevik was a hero.

    • The Wanderer

      Someone would be definitely on the receiving end of many blunt votes.

    • Longstreet63

      Well, he did what they dream of without placing them in any danger and thus is a useful symbol instead of a nutbag.
      See also “Horst Wesel”.

      • Red Bird Ω

        A lot of these types like to hide behind others.

        • Liberoid Ron

          It allows them to pretend they’re brave.

  • goonemeritus

    Domestic terrorism is ALWAYS the most dangerous. One of the things that scares me the most about this administration is that they are cynically turning a blind eye toward right-wing extremists. I don’t see how anyone could conclude this was for any other reason than they perceive them as their part of their base.

    • That is precisely why.
      Because if they admitted to it, they would have to knock it off with all the lone wolves.
      And they would have to admit there is a problem.
      And that the same problem has its roots firmly in the right.

      • MizzMazz

        I know I probably said this here before, but DHS had a briefing about a year ago that home grown white terrorists were a far bigger threat to our safety than the usual caricature of Muslim terrorists. It just doesn’t make for good news, and the mouth breathers don’t lap it up, but the numbers are there.

    • “M”
  • Longstreet63

    Well, if The Master Race depends on these guys, I think it doesn’t mean what they think it means.

  • Claire

    This is why I don’t intend to ever date a white guy again, post-Trump. The base rate of vileness and bugfuck insanity is just too high. I mean, I knew it was high before, but like the base rate of stupidity and racism, it’s just too high for me to trot out the #notallwhiteguys rationalization anymore.

  • ManchuCandidate

    These dipshits are too dumb, too selfish, too angry, too desperate and or self involved to get that you generally get what you give. If hate and anger is all you give then that is what you’re going to get.

  • Jenny

    I’m not going to be happy until we’re shades of brown!!!*

    * I don’t actually give a fuck who fucks who, for fucks sakes there are a million more important things to worry about. Get a grip cry baby white dudes.

  • I can’t think of any snark when I want to barf.

  • PixieThis

    These people are the worst kind of triggers for me. The things I suppressed combined with the things I’ve remembered and lived through and learned to deal with; It takes a lot of will power to stay calm these days and I fear I won’t be able to overcome the fear and rage.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

      I’m so sorry. Is there any way I can help?

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Hi Pixie. For what it’s worth, just remember that guys like this – guys this bad, I mean, not just run-of-the-mill sexists – are a relatively small minority and always will be. Robyn may be right that their numbers are growing a little – but mostly they’re just temporarily emboldened.

      There really are more of us than there are of them. :)

      • We’re not going to let them win. Pure and simple. They can rant and rave and whatever but they will never beat us.
        Not because we out number them, though we do.
        Not because we are superior to them by every metric that exists, because we are.
        They will not beat us simply because they are fucking cowards who will piss their pants if ever confronted. And now that it is ok to sell someone’s history again…..

  • Red Bird Ω

    ITWAN. It’s a good thing these people aren’t a threat to the lives of Americans. sarcasm

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    OT: Brisdull “Abstinence BabbyMama” Palin approves!
    Oklahoma suffers largest syphilis outbreak in recent history

    State health officials say Oklahoma County is in the midst of the largest syphilis outbreak in recent state history.

    The Oklahoman (http://bit.ly/2nh1lSE ) reports that 80 residents among the ages of 14 and 47 have been infected over the past few months.

    The state Health Department’s manager of HIV and STD services, Kristen Eberly, says this is the largest number of cases connecting to the same infection she’s seen in her 13 years with the department.

    • ariel_gee_398
    • QueerPunk
      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Is it “Made in ‘Murrikkka?”

    • Longstreet63

      somebody must have let slip that sex exists.

    • chicken thief

      FOURTEEN?!!!

      • Mavenmaven

        Probably the 47 year old’s daughter.

      • I kind of wonder if they’re going to be seeing some arrests. Of course, who knows what Oklahoma laws are like.

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        And apparently the outbreak is only “among” people the ages of 14 and 47. I guess they meant “between,” but they sort of make you think that you’re safe if you’re not 14 or 47. “Whew. I’m 26. Meh. Wake me when I need to care.” [/Grammar Aficionado]

    • The state Health Department’s manager of HIV and STD services, Kristen Eberly, put her head down as sobs wracked her body as she either a: remembered not sticking up for PP prevention and treatments or b: DID stick up for same and was railroaded.

    • Serai 1

      So, it’s only hitting people who are 14 or 47? Wow, that’s a really specific infection!

  • MynameisBlarney

    That’s IT!
    I’m gonna put a personal ad out for 6′ + tall TS woman of color!

    That oughta piss those nazis right the fuck off!

    And would probably be life changing for me.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

      Blarney, I’d say just be yourself and approach some women of Color. You’ll do fine. :)

      • MynameisBlarney

        Thanks :D

        Thing is though, this island is pretty damn white…
        I’d have to go to the mainland to see any kind of diversity.

        Which I’ve been thinkin about a LOT lately.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

          I hear that, it might be just what you need. :)

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Embrace the whirlwind! *

      * a rare atmospheric fetish.

      • Paganish

        WORST. BLOWJOB. EVAR.

      • MynameisBlarney

        I bet the BJ’s are fantastic!

        *sighs and hangs head*

        No, don’t get up…I’ll see myself out.

    • Serai 1

      I can personally attest that it would be a life-changing move.

  • timpundit

    Bet they really hate Richonne on the walking dead.

  • ~ ☆ míkhαílα ☆ ~ 【忠実反抗】

    It’s fucking psychopathic Nazis like these wastes of skin that are seriously making me consider buying some sort of firearm…

  • Vincent Ricola

    “Wah wah boo hoo I couldn’t get laid as a millionaire in a whorehouse. I bet it’s because of black dudes and all women and not because my soul is visibly ugly to those around me wah wah boo hoo.” – MRAs

  • chicken thief

    Trump and his team are white (mostly) guys. Tell me again what’s so great about them?

  • Paperless Tiger

    … it’ll take shitlord men with big balls to bring their women to heel and their nation back to greatness.

    The linkage between the baseline misogynists and racists and the high level corporate nihilists like Trump is the essence of fascism. They think he is one of them, and he thinks he owns them. What’s missing is art. American culture is decidedly multi-cultural and always has been. There is no source of imagery for the fascist in America, making it a futile dry-hump that can never capture the imagination of the majority. Trump’s little red-hat army does some random violence while Trump steals whatever he can. That seems to be the extent of it.

    • QueerPunk

      Let’s hope you’re right.

    • PubOption

      Shitlord Bonerhitlers?

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      I think, to a large extent, these guys slavishly love Trump because his whole life is wish fulfillment of their frustrated, psychotic urges. He’s the guy who’s rich enough to get away with telling you your baby is ugly, that women are sexual objects, that his wife is ugly now and he’s going to trade up for a better model. He’s the living proof to them that treating women like shit will make them love you (thanks for that, white women voters). He’s their power fantasy of telling that hot, mean chick from high school that she’s just a dumb slut, and then spurning her advances because you’re too rich and famous. The self-actualized ubermench asshole.

  • Anna Rompage

    I’ve dated & had the most intimate of all relationships with black people, and Asian people, and Hispanics, and a swede, and an Italian, and with American white people, and you know what the difference was between all these folks?

    Nothing….

    They we all just good people like you and me. Individual in their own rights, but not due to their race. Some folks still had a little attachment to their ancestral culture, and others didn’t. The underlying commonality of all these people is they were just living their lives like anyone else…

    • BosGrl

      These guys don’t understand that people want to date someone with a similar world view and values, often regardless of looks. There just aren’t enough women who think like them to go around.

      • Anna Rompage

        I had a friend in my 20s who was a bit of an selfish asshole and he couldn’t understand why he could never get a date when most of the rest of us were dating like mad..

      • Serai 1

        Oh, you’d be surprised.

    • chicken thief

      But no Irish, right? ‘Cause I don’t know if I could respect anyone that fornicated with the Irish….

      • Serai 1

        Germans, too. Those people are cheap and filthy, and can’t stop drinking, you know.

      • Lark_in_the_AM

        Hey . . . !

    • Serai 1

      The worst relationships I’ve had were with white guys. Christ, they’re so entitled and whiny and delicate. My ex-husband thought our marriage was over any time we had the smallest argument, even if it was only over what we were going to have for dinner. Fucking panicky snowflakes, goddamn.

      • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

        White American men definitely have the most fragile egos. It makes the worst of them ridiculously needy and entitled.

  • Longstreet63

    Has the NRA started claiming that this case proves gun control is futile yet? After all, people get murdered with swords, so that homeless man should have been packing an AR-15! Plus, it was probably in a gun free zone!
    Also, this was one bad apple and doesn’t reflect on responsible sword owners.

  • chicken thief

    AND LARRY BIRD COULD TOO DUNK IT!!1!!!

    • Liberoid Ron

      Wow, that takes me back!

  • Zonath

    I used to think that Hillary’s only error in referring to half of Trump supporters as “deplorables” was in overestimating the percentage; now I’m not so sure.

    Also, it’s totally charming how these idiots talk about women as if they were dogs, what with the “bring their women to heel” shit. I can’t fucking imagine how any of these “people” are still single.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      The real horror is that there are probably a small minority who are not single. I hope all their wives and/or girlfriends eventually learn to love themselves enough to leave their worthless asses.

    • Serai 1

      The fact that they voted for him at all makes them deplorable people. So she UNDERestimated them – by half.

  • Master Contrail Program

    Going to be busting this one out a lot for the next _______. Somehow even more appropriate in this case. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/84ed8c6942cd7e4117f0c9c51cf017a5bd7c68fb458bf03d2954e895a0a77a7e.png

    • Shucky Ducky

      I can never get over the cognitive dissonance of my whole-hearted approval of the words of a man wearing white denim jeans. C’mon, Preacher.

    • jerrrrrrrricho

      Oh, I have thought that for a long, long time.

      GOERING: fat and gross
      HIMMLER: short, pigeon chest, glasses, weak chin, belly, narrow shoulders
      HESS: sweaty, unibrow
      H!TLER: short and dumpy, short legs
      GOEBBELS: puny and generally sickly

      Not a bunch of good physical specimens at all.

  • If you actually punished a bunch of sluts for their slutty behavior

    Hows about instead of blaming the women, you take actual positive steps to improve yourself?

    Maybe read more. Volunteer to help others. Take night classes and get a better, more fulfilling job. Exercise more and eat better. Make friends offline and hang out. Chat with women with no intention of getting laid and practice your conversational skills and get over any social anxiety you may have. Hell, make a few female friends, not only are some of them incredibly cool human beings, but they’ll be the best wingman you could ever ask for and give you advice on dressing better and cue you in on when you’re saying stupid shit.

    Stop worrying about some hypothetical and extremely far-fetched racial apocalypse and actually go out there and make the world a better place for everyone and I guarantee you will have a more fulfilling and meaningful life, and I would bet money that someone out there will be very attracted to the person you’ve become.

    • Master Contrail Program

      Man, that sounds like it could be nearly as complicated as health care. Who knew?

      • Just saying that if one talks to a woman like a person and not just a vagina, can tell a joke or two, and lets it drop in conversation that he’s a volunteer Big Brother and works a day or two a month down at the animal shelter caring for puppies, dude is not going to have a problem getting dates.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

          Truth. :)

        • Master Contrail Program

          Probably much more of an ice-breaker than, “Wanna see my sword?”, at any rate.

        • Claire

          But then they won’t be able to feel oppressed and hard done by, which is something that apparently feels even better than sex given how desperately white guys cling to it.

        • Yeah, I was totes ready to go “OOOO I will date!”
          And then remembered I is married

          • Yellerduck

            I’m married and I still date! I’ve just dated the same woman for 34 years give or take.

          • h4rr4r

            Has your wife found out yet?

        • Tiny kaiju

          There is a really funny skit on Newsreaders on Adult Swim about a father teaching his not too bright son how to pick up women. This is followed by a response from a mother with daughters. It involves being taken in by a cute hacky sack playing cute guy who owns a golden retriever puppy.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Because those are all things that require an actual impulse to connect with, empathize with, and spend time with other hoo-mans. Which an anime waifu would never ask of her precious-san.

    • Anna Rompage

      One of my theories on why so many conservative straight men seem totally fearful of being hit on by a gay man, is that they’re afraid the gay guy is going to see &treat them how they themselves view & treat women…

      • MynameisBlarney

        Or, deep down, they’re absolutely terrified they’ll like it.

        • Actually I did like it. Unless he was crude, I always took it a pretty big compliment – both on my looks and attitude. Back in the day it was potentially risky and so thinking I was worth the risk was a pretty nice compliment.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Well, I meant, they’re terrified they’ll love the sexy-times part of it.

        • Riley Whodat Venable

          Bingo!

      • I always considered it a compliment back in the day when I was younger and hotter.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Back when I was younger and hotter I’d pretend to be upset about it because I didn’t want my peers knowing I didn’t care and was flattered too.
          Now I just get blush like mad and say thanks.

  • Nasty Candy Apple

    As a white woman, I’d much rather date a black guy than one of these deranged cultists.

    • Longstreet63

      As a straight white man, I would, too.

    • Pretty sure I would rather date a ravenous, rabid moose than one of these bungholes

      • therblig

        once you go moose, you’re labeled as loose

        • Bitter Scribe

          But if you go deer, are you labeled as queer?

          • therblig

            A man who goes doe, is not a homo
            A gal who goes buck, is just DTF
            But if you go fawn, get the fuck off my lawn!

    • “M”

      That’s … not too much of a compliment to the “black guys”, as you describe them.

      :-/

      Didja think about that?

  • So these guys only want women who don’t like sex? Seems like that is a formula for a really bad marriage. Like one where you can’t trust each other to have a meal with a person of the opposite gender for fear they be seduced.

    • Lark_in_the_AM

      Frankly, they’d do better with a sex doll. Then maybe they’ll stay in their basements getting themselves off and leave us normals in peace.

    • Serai 1

      No, it would be a great marriage as far as these shitheads are concerned, because it would give them an excuse to “discipline” their wives, i.e., beat the shit out of them whenever they want. You know – a REAL marriage.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Turmp unveils new retreat to get away from the hustle and bustle of Mar-A-Lago…

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028867501

    • You know, Camp David worked pretty well for most Presidents. Maybe they could put in a putt-putt course for Trump.

      • MizzMazz

        He doesn’t like it! Too much nature, and trees, and those things that fly, what are they again? Birds! And there’s dirt on the ground!

        • Maybe if they put sand everywhere he will feel right at home?

          • MizzMazz

            Astro turf, and get rid of that goddamn nature thing!

        • MynameisBlarney

          And no hotline to Moscow.

      • Serai 1

        That petulant whiny little brat will never go anywhere Obama went.

        • Can’t hire American hookers to pee on the bed the bamz used

          • Serai 1

            Well, he could. Wouldn’t be the first president to fuck hookers. I bet he’d be stupid enough to do it, too. Now there’s a job for some enterprising young woman with a hidden bodycam willing to give all for her country!

    • (Major_Major_Major)ly_Pissed

      I was expecting an Eagles Nest in Vail so that he can keep his closest advisors nearby when they want to get their ski on.

    • mancityRed6

      you know, that almost sounds plausible. that’s how far this administration has taken me: I almost believed it.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Good to know the Onion still has it.

  • Greyhame

    I rather believe young white girls are somehow being brainwashed to prefer men who aren’t repellent, white-supremacist shut-ins with strange neckbeards and poor hygiene.

    But yeah, well, you know, that’s just like, my opinion, man.

    • Serai 1

      Well, of course. Why do you think these basement-dwelling feebs are so angry?

    • alpacapunchbowl

      It doesn’t even take a systematic program of brainwashing to make the laydeez not want to fuck these guys. Yet another example of their inexplicably high self-regard.
      “Bitches are brainwashed!” Nope, I just have fully functioning eyes (and a nose) and have at least a modicum of self-respect.

  • Jenny

    Also too I was having a conversation about white supremacy last weekend with the boyfriend where I pointed out how they fetish milk because of lactose intolerance.

    This was news to him, and he didn’t believe me, so we youtubed those dumb dumbs dancing around drinking milk.

    At which point he says, well christ look at them. They’re the ugliest, most poorly dressed and groomed, incoherent people you could ever meet. They don’t even have rhythm. Digesting milk is the only thing they got left to hang onto. And science can even take care of that.

  • Mavenmaven

    Perhaps they will all flee with Trump to Russia and give us back our country.

  • Serai 1

    I still hold with Gavin de Becquer, who said the best way to deal with fuckheads like this is to give them NO PUBLICITY AT ALL. Never mention their names, never publish their photos, never give any details about them other than calling them “the suspect” or “the criminal” or “the murderer”. STARVE THEM of the one thing they want – notoriety and fame. We’d see a huge reduction in this kind of shit if there was NOTHING TO GAIN by doing it.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      That’s one of the down sides to the Internet … they can, for little effort and zero money, make themselves free publicity.

      • Serai 1

        The more time goes on, the more I realize the fucking internet was a MASSIVELY bad idea.

      • C4TWOMAN

        This reminds be of a convo yesterday where I disagreed with someone about how much time the press should give these people. I understand not wanting to give them “publicity”, but like you say, they’ll do that themselves. What the press needs to do is inform the public properly: when you give airtime, don’t let them use it to rant about their bs, but use it as a chance to grill them about their goals and the source of their ideology.
        This is where the press fucked up with Trump pre-election: they had him on for ratings, lobbed him softballs and wrote glorified puff pieces. In that case, sure , no publicity is better. But people need to be informed and a press Doing It Right is part of that.

        Otherwise, the next time one of these wankers goes off and kills someone, the public has no idea what’s going on.

  • Rick Hill

    “They’ll just keep getting more slutty and lazy until the bubble pops, when the economy finally collapses”]

    There you have it. Just one instance of right wingers who are going to blame the left(and sluts) for the economy eventually tanking. It certainly won’t be because republicans cut every public service and let’s trump build a three hundred foot statue of hisself…..

    • mancityRed6

      “Then, their immorality will hit home.”
      If you include that line, it’s more about how these uppity white women who are not dating the white guys that some people think they should be, will somehow find themselves up a stinky creek without a paddle.

  • Nasty Candy Apple

    There’s never been a more perfect time for a television adaptation of Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale

    • Jenny

      On Hulu, next month!

    • TakingAmes

      And the RWNJ are, predictably, having a nutty over it. It’s a conspiracy. Never mind that the book is thirty years old and the show was in production long before November 2016.

  • Lefty Wright

    Maybe there is something to these contrails theories. I am at a loss to explain the inability of large segments of the US population to show any ability to reason and no ability to use logic. But unlike most of those contrail believers, I think it’s a plot by the Koch group and ALEC. Can anyone else explain why anyone would spend 2 seconds wondering if Jade Helm was a plot to declare martial law and use empty Walmarts to house prisoners? That Sandy Hook was fake? That Hillary Clinton was running a child sex ring out of a pizza restaurant? How can anyone be so stupid unless they are drugged.

    • Claire

      Or the problem with lead in the water is a whole lot bigger and more widespread than we realized.

      • Lefty Wright

        Gotta be some answer. I don’t think human brain and neurological development has changed that much in the last 40 years.

        • Nicholas

          I think, as the article mentions, the big change has been the internet. 20 years ago, these people would actually have to get out and interact with people who don’t share their fringe beliefs. They’d be exposed to alternate viewpoints, challenges to their belief systems, or at the very least, realize how unpopular such views are and shut up about them. Now, they self select into echo chambers tailored to their viewpoint and spend all their time slapping each other on the back, convincing each other they’re right and everyone else are just a bunch of deluded sheeple.

    • Red Bird Ω

      If society conditions you to believe that you’re always right, you find a way to be always right.

      • Lefty Wright

        Yeah, there’s always Germany in the 1930s to consider.

    • Thaumaturgist

      Consider my moccasins. Being a rural Christian, my life is BORING! Need something to get my blood moving.

    • mancityRed6

      They don’t call the middle of the country “flyover” for nothing.

      • Jennaratrix

        Not to belabor this point, but some of us here in flyover country are transplants. And this guy was in MD, so… the stupid, it seems to be pretty evenly scattered over the country, unfortunately.

        • mancityRed6

          Yeah, but Maryland is between DC and Philadelphia, so definitely major airports with lots of planes flying. As a resident of Kansas, I’m used to seeing lots of planes flying over head.

          • Jennaratrix

            By that definition, everywhere in America is flyover country. Your point stands!

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      It doesn’t take drugs- we’re just not nearly as “exceptional” as we’d like to believe. The country is full of idjits and whack jobs.

  • The first person I ever fell in love with didn’t want to date me because we were the same height and she wanted her boyfriend to be taller than her so she could wear heels. It never occurred to me to try and kill him or even hate him because he was taller than me. I just cried a little, then found someone who liked me for me. Seems so much easier than way – although trying to be worth liking or loving does take a little effort.

    • mancityRed6

      yeah, but see, you’re normal. these guys just aren’t.

    • TakingAmes

      Mr. Ames resisted my wearing heels for a long time because we’re the same height. I wore them anyway, and he’s come to realize that my wearing heels makes me taller than him and also too makes my legs and ass look hawt. He doesn’t complain anymore.

      • Our case was sort of opposite, she wanted her man to be taller than her, even when she was wearing heels. I couldn’t cared less, I thought she was beautiful in everything she wore.

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    These are exactly the kind of people who’d eagerly foment a different version of the Nazi Party. With their ridiculous obsession with blood and soil they’d happily bring in a Hitler 2.0. No, I don’t think Trump is it because he’s more of a Putinian figure, but he’s definitely a gateway to one. Think about that for a moment…

    • MizzMazz

      Dolt 45 is something else. Not quite Hitler, because of the Putin thing, but reminds me of Buzz Windrip in Sinclair Lewis’ “It Can’t Happen Here” The book is eerie in how much it’s like Trump’s rise.

      • Bitter Scribe

        Yeah, like Windrip (and Huey Long, on whom Lewis modeled Windrip), Trump won by making lavish promises he couldn’t possibly deliver on.

        • MizzMazz

          Yeah, I’m not finished with the book yet, but his (Windrips) followers are starting to wonder where their $5000 is, and some of them are getting mad, but not mad enough to revolt. They’re never gonna get that money, and neither is Dolt 45 goning to give the little people what he promised.

          • Bitter Scribe

            I don’t want to spoil the ending for you, but you’ll never guess what finally gets them to revolt.

  • Greyhame

    We’re going to need to have a travel ban on all U.S. citizens, at least until we can figure out what the hell is going on with the online radicalization of all these young, ‘Murican men pledging allegiance to Vanilla-ISIS.

    • Serai 1

      *sigh* Please don’t call them ISIS. It’s a spit in the face of a beautiful, powerful, cultural and religious icon. They CHOSE that name precisely so they could get the world to shit on it. Don’t play their game.

  • Jan Ness

    He sounds nice bless his soul!

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      I’m willing to bless his heart, in the southern sense, but not his soul. Said soul (evidence of existence: still pending) can look forward to a nice, blistering heat at the end of days.

  • Mike

    Stupid internet…how come it never tells these assholes to move out of mom’s basement and get a job…?

    • Lark_in_the_AM

      Would you employ someone like this? Talk about your walking lawsuit.

  • Amelia

    I wanted so badly to make this article a skim-and-get-to-the-snark article but I read every word and I’m so full of rage my eyes are burning with tears.

    Because these are the very worst of humanity, the ones I hardly consider human at all. If the world were a Sims game, I would put them all in one building and delete the door.

    Because I know that even in my family, if I brought home a black guy or lady I would have to sit through several “well-intentioned” conversations about whether I’ve thought this through, if I know what I’m doing with one of them.

    And because I know that these guys are so sick, so steeped in their own delusions, that they will be evil deep into their bone marrow until the day they die. And that makes me feel a little hopeless.

    • MizzMazz

      I feel your hopelessness. And if we could, along with your room without a door, I will build a Sims pool, and take out the ladder while they’re swimming>:)

      • redarmyzombie

        Also, don’t forget to delete the bathrooms.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      If it’s any consolation, these festering dregs of humanity seem to be cloistering themselves into various basements, and broadcast their hateful misery as the only way to make any societal impact. To feel anything about them, other than disdain and then forgetfulness, is to play their game. Don’t let the bastards get you down and go on doing whatever and whoever makes you happy.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

      I hear you. These..folks…make life harder to enjoy.

      My parents were the same way or worse, racist and stupid. I grew up around the casual racism, in a nearly all-white area.

      I know it feels sometimes like we’re surrounded by these ugly hateful people. I try to remember all the lovely friends I have, and I try to remember the nice folks I nod to on the sidewalk, or pass the time of day with in the checkout line. It’s not easy, some days.

    • Jennaratrix

      If the world were a Sims game, I would put them all in one building and delete the door.

      Don’t forget the fireplace and Sad Clown picture.

      • Darkrose

        I wish that I had more upvotes to give for Death By Clown.

    • Serai 1

      *shrug* This is not new. Humanity has always had people like this. You just didn’t know about them before the internet. And if they were all wiped out, there’d be another crop within a couple of decades. Stupidity and xenophobia are not things we are ever going to get rid of. They’re in our DNA.

    • HazooToo

      I know this is kind of the opposite of helping, but… they’d eventually die and then spawn as ghosts a few days later, then just drift through the walls to annoy us all over again.

    • My teenaged response to “well-intentioned” racism in my family was to bring home more black and brown guys. I’m sure that’s not the ideal way of dealing with it, but it felt satisfying at the time.

      • “M”

        “I’m sure that’s not the ideal way of dealing with it”

        I’d like to think you asked the guys how THEY felt about it at some point.

        And shared with them whether or not you’ve seen “Get Out”.

  • MynameisBlarney

    If I was Benevolent Dictator, folks like him would be rounded up, lined up against the wall and forcibly ghey married to large and flamboyant POC.

    • Why do you hate large and flamboyant people of color?

      • MynameisBlarney

        Ok…If I was Benevolent Dictator I’d ask for suggestions?

        • Lark_in_the_AM

          Alan had the right of it.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Aye.
            Launch them via Acme Catapult.

          • redarmyzombie

            I dunno, I kinda like the idea of them strapped to a rocket with the song Rocket Man playing loud enough for all to hear…

      • Serai 1

        Oh, you don’t think they’d have fun? I would!

    • Sheepshagger

      Dude. Think of the poor gays. Have you seen the clothes these people wear? They don’t decorate man.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Damn…good point…

    • Alan

      I would launch them into space with no provision for return.

    • redarmyzombie

      How about to a large leather daddy POC?

      • MynameisBlarney

        Even better.

        • redarmyzombie

          Plus, I’m pretty sure they’ll be up for the challenge!
          …If you get my drift…
          …I’ll see myself out.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        Save those guys for some bear who’d fully appreciate them…

    • Jennaratrix

      What did large and flamboyant POCs ever do to you?!?

      • MynameisBlarney

        Nothin dammit!

        *sobs pathetically*

        WHY DON’T THEY LIKE ME?!?!

  • Alan

    Stupid and crazy is a bad combination.

  • Sheepshagger
    • redarmyzombie

      “I’m gonna f**k you like a good little boy if you keep calling me daddy.”
      “…boy pussy, baby boy…”

      *HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRK*

      • Sheepshagger

        Normal, manly stuff. From the “dont say gay” state legislator. Macho see.

      • TakingAmes

        Jesus wept.

    • Alan

      He’s charming.

    • MynameisBlarney

      That guy is feckin nasty.

    • Serai 1

      I guess he couldn’t face the fact that he was about to fuck another guy IN THE ASS.

      • MynameisBlarney

        A child, actually.

        • Serai 1

          Not the point.

          • redarmyzombie

            No, but still an important qualifier. You know, famiily values, yadda yadda…

          • Serai 1

            Fucking someone that young is perfectly in line with the “family values” in his state. That’s why it’s not germane to the point I was making.

          • redarmyzombie

            I suppose you’re right. I will never understand these shitweasels…

          • Serai 1

            Neither will I. I chalk it up to our shitty DNA.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

      You mean a Right-wing politician that hates Gays is secretly a child-rapist? That’s something unprecedented.

  • TJ Barke

    It drives these fuckers crazy that there aren’t people officially and legally inferior to them. Their obsession with superiority and dominance is ruining their lives.

    • Lark_in_the_AM

      What they don’t seem to realize is that every word and every action betrays how weak they actually are.

      • honeywest

        Certainly explains why they can’t get laid.

    • Jennaratrix

      Which would be fine with me; their lives can be ruined for all I care. It’s the OTHER people’s ruined lives that are the problem.

  • NastyBossetti

    “Well, if that guy feels so strongly about it, maybe I shouldn’t do it,’” he told reporters

    I know I always wonder before I do anything, “How would a murderer feel about this?”

  • gene108

    Nazi pick-up artist blog

    What the ever-loving Fuck??????????

    I want to live in an alternate universe, where such things do not exist.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    It’s an amazingly complex, nuanced, philosophy, way of life, system of government and law, all built around the fear that black men have bigger dicks and women will prefer them.

    Take one idea and build ever more dazzling stories around it, until people are confused, devoted and have no idea what the original idea was.

    Thus we have an ongoing lab experiment into how religions are born.

    • C4TWOMAN

      I’d say a “cult”, because religions usually include a mix of cultural history and real respect for either nature or the divine. In this case it strikes me as an excuse to act out frustrations violently, instead of doing the work the figure out how shit works in life.

      The saddest thing is they’re not doing anything productive in their lives because they’re obsessiing over this imaginary threat. Like, dude, how do the “wimmins” keep you from finishing your degree?

      • HazooToo

        I’m gonna say neither, it’s just a hate group. They have no set rules or dogma whatsoever, all that matters is that you hate a large group and want to control them or destroy them.

    • Panika MCD

      women prefer men who can find their clitoris. how is this so confusing?

  • To be fair, I’d fight somebody over a Cartoon Network show. But only if they were trying to hate on my mystical communist lesbian space rocks.

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/fb88b00c2e86289e3460d4465a45bec9/tumblr_n166stSV4G1rkvzuno3_500.gif

  • resistance_fighter_rosenbomb

    The GOP has always courted these people, but now it is evident for the world that they have hitched their cart to Nazis. Will the ‘non-racist’ conservative voters take note? Of course not. Better Nazis than a woman who once had an email server.

    • Serai 1

      Better Nazis than a woman who knows how to do the fucking job, rather.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Better gnatsees than a woman, because vaginas scare the ever-livin shit outta those fucktards.

        • resistance_fighter_rosenbomb

          Well, sometimes blood comes out of them! The horror!

          • BearDeLaOursistance

            Sometimes blood comes out of MRA’s too. W/votes, if necessary.

  • Bitter Scribe

    Why do I think these guys would be perfectly comfortable and at home in a Southern lynch mob, circa 1910?

    • Alan

      Because.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Because they would.

    • Sheepshagger

      Too much cardio I reckon.

    • Panika MCD

      you think lynch mobs would have any use for these little shits? no. they’d be told to stay home protecting OUR WIVES AND DAUGHTERS with their bbguns…but would probably get distracted and shoot themselves in the feet.

  • You guys nail these topics with ease every single time. My opinion is that what these people say online is almost always going to be radically different than what they would say in person. What’s dangerous is that these people who may have retreated to dark corners of the internet as their “safe spaces” have been emboldened and feel as though their evil ideals should now be on equal footing with civilized ideals, so now we have flat out racists alongside rational talking heads on the news networks, just as one example.

    The only language these people will ultimately understand is that of MONEY. I’m a gonna keep hammering home that the country and world are ultimately better off economically when folks in poor communities are lifted up, when women get equal pay to men for doing the same job, and when the extremely wealthy pay their fair share back into society. If anyone tries to duck dodge and deflect, I’ll just say “ok so what you’re really saying is you don’t like money.”

  • Lefty Frizzell

    “bring their women to heel” is the most scary, not to say delusional, statement in the whole article.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Bright side?
      They just likely shrank the pool of potential dates by several orders of magnitude.

    • honeywest

      Just imagine the loser who wrote that.

  • Gorillionaire

    Seems pretty obvious that alot of these idiots would gladly smoke one another’s tiny rods if the opportunity arrived.

    • Panika MCD

      it’s only “sex” if it can make a baby!

  • Bitter Scribe

    I can’t tell who’s more despicable…these guys or the politicians who know better and cynically exploit them anyway.

    • Sheepshagger

      Knowing things is a liberal plot. Ignorance and hatred is the way of the lord, amen.

      • Serai 1

        One of the biggest reasons why I’m a pagan – our gods expect us to USE our brains, else why the fuck do we have them?

    • C4TWOMAN

      That is a pickle. I’ll go with they’re both awful. Like “Chris in Fear the Walking Dead” awful.

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    LET’S GET READY TO RUUUUUMBLE! I expect a hoard of dumfuckistanis to visit our fair Wonkette soon. We got your back Robyn.

    • Serai 1

      Got my .gifs all fired up. Been collecting new dance images!

  • BrianW

    I just hope that the Editrix is providing Robyn with a generous mental health benefit for having to read these wastes of oxygen every day. It CAN’T be good for her.

  • Serai 1
    • MizzMazz

      Stolen.

      • Serai 1

        Swear Trek is a treasure trove.

    • honeywest

      Best ever.

    • janecita

      Thanks, it’s going in my collection;-)

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    And I very rarely see these people being told to fuck off.

    Allow me.

    Hey whiny pathetic little self pitying white douchebags- FUCK OFF!

  • Tiny kaiju

    Excellent post, Robyn.

  • Sheepshagger

    “I’m a normal”

    Standard response by Dick, closeted homosexual, drifter and mass murderer, as quoted by known white genocidiare Truman Capote, In Cold Blood.

    • Ya know, I was just thinking that there was nothing, at all, normal, with being a: worried the black men were getting all your women and b: cheering on a douchebag who kills kids and or 66 year old men, or indeed, anyone or c: plotting ways to make women “heel”
      There is nothing normal about these fucks. They are not normal, at all.

      • MizzMazz

        They just have a voice now. Bitter hateful voices. And there’s always a Charlie Manson who will spur them on to do the wrong thing, and he (I’m looking at you Roosh, Vox Day, Paul Elam et.al.) won’t have to pay for it.

        • Serai 1

          You mean like Manson didn’t have to pay for it?

          • MizzMazz

            Nooo, I mean that others committed the crimes, but Manson wasn’t there – he incited them. It’s a rarity that he was held responsible. Think about the RWNJ who have shot up women’s clinics and convenience stores – they were inspired, and you know that. That Manson is in jail is a rare thing, when you consider how many crimes have been committed by people being influenced by some radio host, or TV guy, or YouTube fanatic spewing hate and encouraging violence. I don’t see Limbaugh, O’Reilly, or any of them sitting in jail for inciting violence.

          • Serai 1

            True, that.

      • Serai 1

        I tend to stay away from the word “normal”, as it really has no useful meaning.

      • Shanzgood

        The culture of racial and cis-heterosexual sexual entitlement we all live in IS normal, though. Sure, we made some advances away from it in the past couple of generations but that hasn’t made it all magically disappear.

        I hope that the insanity we’re seeing right now is the death throes of it, and I encourage everyone to hurry it along and put us out of its misery with a special Scalia pillow of votes.

        • Lara

          I feel like we’ve already stepped back 10 years, and we’re poised to step back 50 or more. All the things we as a nation and a world have accomplished are eroding so quickly and even once we get these evil men out of power it’ll take a long time to win these things back.

          • Shanzgood

            Tneyre dying and they know it. That’s why they’re flailing so badly.

  • undercover epicurean
    • Lara

      With votes!

      • feloneouscat

        Yeah. I’m a pacifist and hit like one.

        Which is not at all.

  • Robyn Ryan

    These are people who assume being a white male is the same as being a god.
    They will kill to be feared and piwerful. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fbdc2e878cf7e744c8c6d678b562f7a73d968e98d16b55879d75ddea033bbf08.jpg

    • Serai 1

      Which shows how weak and delicate they really are.

      • Lara

        Really. A strong person could survive no matter how many “other races are trying to kill the white man”.

  • Serai 1

    As a storyteller, I used to think the one thing about death that I really hated is the fact that after I die, I won’t know how all of this turns out.

    I don’t think that anymore.

    • jensie475

      That is the saddest thing I’ve ever read

      • Serai 1

        Don’t. I find it liberating, myself.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

      Roger that. There are far worse things than dying.

      I wont bow again.

    • Lara

      My sister has some serious health issues, and she was pretty upset, understandably, when Trump won. She could literally die if Obamacare is repealed because she’s well past the lifetime cap most insurance companies used to have and she could not pay for all of her treatment.

      For a while she was down, then one day she just said to me “I have to live longer than that asshole Trump, so I can celebrate when he’s gone.”

      Sounds like a goal to me!

      • Keith Taylor

        I am really sorry about your sister. Hope her health improves in a big way. And if Donald Trump has actually inspired her to outlive him, great, he has actually done one good thing in his rotten life, which is one more than I’d have expected.

  • TakingAmes

    ““Well, if that guy feels so strongly about it, maybe I shouldn’t do it,’” he told reporters, imagining what he hoped would be the reaction of white women to his murder of a 66-year-old black man.” All right, now whose turn is it to tell this guy that’s not how any of this works? Shit, is it mine? Fine. THAT’S NOT HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS, DOUCHEBAG!

  • honeywest

    Gee, maybe if you stop saying phrases like “femcuntery” some girls might not think you’re losers. Nah, just kidding. You are losers. Nothings says PATHETIC more than a “White Men’s Rights” group.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Offensiveness aside, someone who uses a word like that has never uttered the sentence, “Read this back to me so I can hear if it scans.”

  • janecita

    And by sluts, and assuming that they mean, “women with selfsteem that would never, ever sleep with losers like them.”

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Or “women who will sleep with anybody but ME“.

      • Lara

        Cause they’re “nice guys” and everyone knows that nice guys get treated abominably by women who only want to use them and tease them and then date bad boys.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    I dunno, people “getting more slutty and lazy” sounds pretty good to me.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      I know, right? Like this extended dicksplat will get ANY luvvins if he were to live in a world where all the women are uptight about sex and are constantly overachieving.

    • Lara

      Sounds like heaven. Add in “more cake-eatingly” and I’m down.

    • Suttree

      My weekends comprise of groping and cooking for my gf. It works for me. She doesn’t like to cook.

  • Choosymom

    I pity the detestable scum who tries to bring *this* feminist and former Marine “to heel.”
    What a jackass.

    • bookish

      That’s what I thought yesterday when I read that Bill O Reilly beats his wife. Try it, you pissant mf. I will hurt you til my dying breath.

  • Panika MCD

    boys who treat Tsarina Von Clownstick, Bannsputon and Poots as if they’ll get a Milkbone for every comment they write, every person they doxx, and each voter they intimidate don’t get to talk about having women “come to heel” and be taken seriously by anyone. every woman on this site could kick their ass and they know that. that’s why they need guns. because they can’t fight. they are not the he-men they claim to be. and it’s probably all rooted in the fact that they got beat by a girl on a playground in times of old.

    also too: think we’re going to get some trolls today?

    • MynameisBlarney

      Well, school is letting out soon, innit?

      • Panika MCD

        don’t they have boyscouts after school?

        • MynameisBlarney

          That type ain’t gonna be in the boyscouts.

          • Panika MCD

            okay, it’s juggling club. you really had to embarrass them like that, didn’t you?

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yes.
            Yes I did.

          • Lara

            Future Presidents of America Club?

        • kareemachan

          Detention.

          • Panika MCD

            they ain’t cool enough for that.

        • H0mer0

          CCD (Wednesday was catechism day for my friend growing up. I used to hate Wednesdays for that reason.)

  • Prof. T. Green Bastard

    Nobody, but nobody will ever bring me to ‘heel’. I’ll drop to the ground n slash his Achilles. With votes or whatever.

    Fuck these pigs.

    • janecita

      Very sharp votes.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Nah…
        Dull, rusty votes.

        Hurts moar.

        • janecita

          I’m down with that.

    • Serai 1

      So while I breathe this glorious air
      An outlaw I’ll remain
      My body shall not be subdued
      My soul shall NOT be saved!

      — Catherine Madsen

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lMSbwOxmI0

      • Tokays_don’t_blink

        I hadn’t heard of this lady before, but I like the cut of her jib!

        • Serai 1

          She wrote some pagan songs in the 80’s, but I don’t believe she ever recorded a whole album, though I could be wrong. This is her most famous song, and it’s around in the pagan community in different versions. The one I first heard was an alternate version with a few different lines. It’s kinda my anthem. :)

    • MynameisBlarney

      I guess the concept of an equal partnership with someone (in ANY type of relationship) is completely foreign to them.

      • Prof. T. Green Bastard

        Sucks to be them. I love the feeling of being both totally cared for & completely free. They can’t even comprehend.

      • janecita
      • Jennifer R

        You notice as we tighten up date rape laws these people just get angrier and angrier. They factually can’t have sex without drugging people.

        • Lara

          I find that the whole “most women lie about being raped” trope is incredibly insidious. That’s the one thing I’ll hear men say even if they don’t seem to hold other, more insidious opinions.

          • Jennifer R

            If you pry in to them more you will find that a lot of them hold peculiar views on what is “legitimate rape” or not as well.

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    They screamed and howled over the fact that they believed young white girls were being brainwashed to prefer black men.

    Actually, they’re being brainwashed to prefer unicorns.

    http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2016229/rs_600x600-160329123233-600-Lisa-Frank-Unicorn.jm.32916.jpg

    • Serai 1

      BESTIALITY!!!

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Yes, but it’s cute, cuddly, and well-mannered bestiality.
        See how insidious we are!

        • Serai 1

          I would actually love to have a unicorn that looks like that. I love rainbows.

          • Lara

            I would feed it glitter so it pooped glitter and I would name it Sunfire and I would pet it ALL THE TIME!

        • IndianaKevin

          What is bestiality from a unicorn’s perspective?

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            Fucking a Republican.

    • mancityRed6

      and horses…and for some reason all the girls I met in the early ’90s wanted to go to Australia…

      • Serai 1

        I was one of those horsey girls back in the 70’s.

        • feloneouscat

          I was and now I have horses.

          The imaginary kind have far less maintenance, just FYI.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Koala lust!

        • Lara

          No, kangaroos!

          • H0mer0

            and wallabies

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        It was the AFL. It is always the AFL. #nom

    • Lara

      I sense an agenda here, Kiri…

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        I actually prefer older men.

    • kareemachan
      • Serai 1

        Oooooooooooo…

    • Fancy Meau-Faux
      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Staring into the abyss is fun if you make a game of it!

        • Fancy Meau-Faux

          I tried a staring contest with the abyss, but it always won. :(

  • Panika MCD

    I’ve always been torn on the subject of whether or not The Handmaid’s Tale should be required reading in school. it would disabuse a lot of people of a lot of notions. but then you read about these shitheads and they would think that the story was HEAVEN as they clearly see themselves as the big dicks with the house, wife, handmaid and low sperm count, even though everyone knows they’d either be hung on the wall or standing at a checkpoint not even allowed to masturbate.

    • Serai 1

      If you think that way, then nothing will ever get taught in school. Fuckheads can twist ANYTHING to their viewpoint. No reason to deprive kids of good literature.

      • Panika MCD

        fair enough.

      • Panika MCD

        but they need to add an essay question about what character each student thinks they would be?

        • Serai 1

          What teacher doesn’t assign work after a text is read?

          • Panika MCD

            this is a bit more diagnostic a question than what they usually ask.

          • Serai 1

            If kids start getting the sense that the teacher’s trying to analyze them, they’ll start lying.

          • Panika MCD

            so we let educators frame the question.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    When I tell a woman “heel,” it means I’m ready to give a foot massage.

    Heel. On my lap. Now.

    • feloneouscat

      (pretending I’m not married at the moment) When are you free and when can you come to my house. Do you vacuum, too?

      • H0mer0

        I’m sorta single (at least not married)

    • Suttree

      I hope you wash your hands before you cook dinner! No joke, I give foot massages while I cook dinner. :)

  • whitroth

    Wait – you mean guys who’ll sleep with anyone they can, including someone they have to pay (and pay extra, because…), and treat them like dirt *aren’t* sluts?

    • Lara

      Oh, no, they are heroes, of course! A man can sleep with as many women as he wants, but once a woman has been with a man she is forever altered.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        Because then she has a reference point for comparing their skills. And somehow I doubt Mr. MRA is Ribbed (or even Remotely Concerned) For Her Pleasure.

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    I have had many girls break up with me, often for reasons I don’t fully comprehend. My response was never to go violent misogynist Nazi. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

    • Serai 1

      They were brought up by guys just like them. This shit gets passed down.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Not always. I’ve got one in the family. He was not brought up that way. His twisted mind came from, among other things, being deep in the closet and being unwilling/unable to admit it and from associating with others like him who built on each other’s fears and hatreds. His parents were not like that.

        • Lara

          My example is always my mom. She came from a family of racists, a poor, rural family that blamed others for their situation, especially other races. Her siblings all listen to right wing talk radio and vote Republican and think racist jokes are funny.

          My mom, growing up in that environment, is the most tolerant person I know. She made sure that my sister and I were raised knowing anyone can and should do and be what they want, that everyone is equal and that everyone should love who they love.

          I never questioned those things until I was older and realized that other people didn’t think that way and that other kids weren’t raised to believe those things. And then looked at my mom’s family and realized that the fact that she came out of that atmosphere and is who she is is incredible.

          I love my mom :)

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I love your mom too.

    • janecita

      They are stupid, pathetic, thin skinned, bad lay, assholes.

  • BearDeLaOursistance

    Someone should DDOS 4chan, with votes.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Under Trump’s new Internet rules, we should purchase all their browser histories.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Ew.

        • WotsAllThisThen

          Yeah I immediately regretted saying that.

      • Lara

        And publish them. Let the young girls and women they think they’re owed see their web history and think even harder of never dating them!

  • Royal Ugly Dude

    *sigh* I miss the days when you could just take them bowling.

    https://youtu.be/UDB9oCgVHGw

  • YoBunnyBunny

    I wish I could remember the exact source who was quoted, but when I heard about this issue during the rush hour news blurbs on the classical radio station here in Baltimore, his neighbors had described him as unsociable and “didn’t pay his rent”. Why was I not surprised?

    Just like the other one down in South Caroline: That boy ain’t shit. Fucking losers, the lot of ’em.

    • Serai 1

      Non-fucking losers, sounds like.

      • Ducksworthy

        Not even Beta males.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Zeta cucks?

        • Serai 1

          Epsilon Semi-Males.

          • Tokays_don’t_blink

            How does this not have more upfists?

          • Serai 1

            Not many people remember Brave New World?

    • Lara

      As I said above, though, in a lot of US communities that aren’t in the deep south, these loners would have, in the past stayed isolated loners. Maybe there would have been a chance of their opinions slowly being changed for the positive. At the very least, maybe they’d have lacked enough self-confidence to act on their beliefs.

      Now, they can log on and instantly find thousands of like-minded loners and losers, and have their opinions easily validated and amplified. There have always been racist, misogynist loners. The internet has given them a community that encourages and even intensifies their evil beliefs, and possibly their actions.

      ETA: and Trump’s election has given them even more validation.

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    “We need to acknowledge the very real race problems we have in America, unfortunately it looks like it is only getting worse with the left doubling down with accusations of racist or nazi everytime they lose.”

    Guys, no-one deserves to be an asshole. Now, I’m not a human, but I’ve been watching y’all for quite a while, and I believe I can state with confidence that you’re doing it wrong.

    • Ducksworthy

      I knew this was Obama’s fault.

      • Lara

        Thanks, Obummer.

    • IndianaKevin

      You’re saying we’re humaning wrong? Well (I said, getting all defensive), who’s to say you’re unicorning properly?

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        My apologies, Kevin. I should have made it clear that that my comment was directed at the racist nazi assholes.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        I’m having trouble Bearing the current administration, that’s for sure.

  • SecludedCompound

    Honestly, it didn’t take the internet to create a nexus or racism and misogyny to make these men violent. A huge part of white racism towards blacks has always been against black me because of perceptions around sexualization. Lynchings were carried out almost constantly with accusations of “rape” or “indecency” by black men towards white women.

    The issue here is white fear of competition, where they think they “deserve” something. That has been ongoing since the beginning.

    • Lara

      But the internet has helped loners or isolated racists and misogynists more quickly and easily find their own kind and have their views rapidly and vociferously reinforced. Sure, all this has existed forever. But it also is getting worse.

      • Serai 1

        Yep. I get irritated when people say it’s not the internet’s fault. The worldwide, instantaneous network of communication these knuckle-draggin troglodytes have been handed as a gift very much IS the fault of the internet – or rather, the fault of all those idiots who thought it was a good idea to enable systems of anonymous evildoers to ply their fucking hate-wares.

        • YourNameHere

          Meanwhile the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different cultures and races, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.

          • Serai 1

            Clearly Jobs and Gates and all their fuckhead companions never read Douglas Adams.

      • SecludedCompound

        True enough. I was mainly speaking to root causes, but point taken.

  • “bring their women to heel” makes me see red. We’re not fucking dogs that you train. Jeebus Gawd what a bunch losers with tiny penises.

    • ThaagNasty

      Treat us like dogs and they’ll find out we’re bitches. =)

      • Amen!

      • Tokays_don’t_blink

        Better a bitch than a lapdog, says I!

    • YourNameHere

      I’m not really sure what the fuck that means? Is this referencing an urge to drag women back to economic slavery or implying a man will force women to know their place listening to men? Because war is fought with robots and bombs now. I can build that shit too.

      • Tiny kaiju

        Both, but these idiots would never dream that women can fight back.

      • Serai 1

        Is this referencing an urge to drag women back to economic slavery or implying a man will force women to know their place listening to men?

        Yes.

      • I know, right?!

    • Keith Taylor

      Probably. What turns me sick with worry is that some of them are dangerous losers who may not just talk poisonous drivel, but act. They commit murder. Like I need to tell you. But why the hell do judges ever let them out on bail? Not sure what that situation is in the U.S.A., but in Australia judges do it all the time.

      • Unfortunately it happens here in the US as well.

  • SpaceCaptainWarlock

    The irony is thick with these creatures, and they are dimwittingly unaware.

    Women in control of their reproductive rights is the most prominent aspect that distinguishes a free society like ours from an archaic one like ISIS. Religion is typically the means for attacking reproductive rights. It’s the reproductive rights, stupid.

    • Finnabar87

      A proper patriarchy always controls reproduction first and foremost.

      • Serai 1

        No, a proper patriarchy always controls WOMEN’S BODIES. Big difference.

        • ThaagNasty

          Step 1: deny personhood to women.

          • feloneouscat

            (history passes and women are almost equal)
            Step 1: deny abortion
            Step 2: deny birth control
            Step 3: deny the right to work
            Step 4: deny the right to vote
            Step 5: require the male of the family to make decisions for you

  • Rags

    Can we just start from the factual grounds that ‘race’ is bullshit?

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Biologically, you are correct. Culturally, however, not so much.

      • feloneouscat

        Actually, biology has zero to do with culture. I know of an Indian couple who are horrified that their daughter is now growing up culturally Indian (she grew up in the United States). They came this close to disowning her until she almost died from cancer.

        They decided they could live with an “eccentric” in the family.

        Culture and biology have nothing to do with each other. If you think skin color influences culture, then you might want to visit a School for the Deaf and realize just how outmoded your concept of “culture” is.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          I am perplexed as to your point. As I said, biologically, “race” is ludicrous. But are you really arguing that the culture of the US does not have race as a category? And how on earth is noticing this outmoded? Are you saying that BLM is just making it up?

          And I am honestly confused as to your example. Their daughter is growing up “culturally Indian” in the US, and her Indian parents are horrified? Is she being raised by people other than her parents?

          • Serai 1

            There seem to be a lot of n00bs who don’t read well here today.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            No kidding.

          • feloneouscat

            It is as I said, biology has zero to do with culture. I’m puzzled how muddling things changes that fact. She is not growing up culturally Indian. Because she lives in (and is influenced by) a different culture from her parents. That’s pretty much standard anthro.

        • Serai 1

          What the fuck are you going on about? Did this article get linked in some low-comprehension-reader’s list or something?

          • feloneouscat

            If you do not understand, then you have identified the low-comprehension-reader.

    • Finnabar87

      Well, sure.

    • Serai 1

      What Woman said. Genetically, yes. Culturally, no. Race is a social construct rather than a genetic trait, but it’s a very real construct.

      • Rags

        This is after all a mommy and recipe blog, so I am not going to do more than add one more observation here. To the extent that religion is a social construct (and I think many of us here would put that extent at 100%) religion is bullshit. To the extent that race is a social construct, it too, is likewise bullshit. Racism has its origins in biology. If you don’t think these people live by that precept, you are wrong. Nuance is not in their worldview. We need to not temporize over this issue. If you would prefer, talk about communities as social constructs; at least that gives us a less loaded term to frame our comments, which aren’t allowed.

        • Serai 1

          Maybe you should stop using inaccurate terms like “bullshit” if you can’t stand the idea that other people might, you know, answer you.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Please pick one position and stick with it. Either race is factually bullshit, or racism has its origins in biology. You get one. Not both, one. Kindly choose.

          • Rags

            I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear. What I meant was that racists invented ‘the races’ using the excuse that they were doing it based on biological principles ( totally bogus of course). That is why I referred to biology,not to cite with approval. Subsequent efforts to move the goalposts to the idea that race (with categories largely the same as those defined by the ‘biological’ racists) is a social construct are IMHO not helpful and avoiding them would, again imho, be helpful. Now I broke my rule to not go all tl;Dr so I will put my pants on and go enjoy a canned clam pizza and some of that cake we like. Nighty night.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            We shall have to agree to disagree. I think that “race” is a culturally decided designation. It would be lovely to have that idiotic designation disappear, but it would also br lovely for daffodils and rainbows to follow my every step, and sadly, about as likely. To ignore the reality of how non-white people experience life, is to diminish their very real lives. I don’t think that is what you want, but that is what comes your argument leads to. Frankly, I think you’re better than that.

      • MyLovelyNose

        I do believe we are the lucky recipients of some old-fashioned home-made MANSPLAINING. Gee–who among us in this mommy blog knew that race is a social construct? Gosh, I guess NONE of us did, which is why someone had to just jump in and rescue us from ignorance.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • guppy06

      Insurance? There’s no way that didn’t come out of a communist state.

    • Emaily

      That is awesome.

  • William
  • guppy06

    If you actually punished a bunch of sluts for their slutty behavior

    They could have gone with the Castle Anthrax angle here, but no, they had to go with the grimdark.

    Stop ruining light BDSM, asshats!

  • William
    • edked_v2

      What’s the thing on his head?
      (Honestly, I don’t recognize it: it’s clearly ‘shopped on, but it doesn’t look ass-like, for asshat, and it’s not tinfoil, and it’s brown but the spots & texture are such that it doesn’t look that poo-like. I genuinely don’t recognize it.)

      • HorseChestnut

        It’s a Scumbag Steve hat.

        • edked_v2

          Had to google that. The entire meme-string that this was riffing on was completely unknown to me; I thought it was just shit-talking Rush (that’s who it is, isn’t it? Hard to recognize with him smiling.), which is in itself something I’m totally in favor of, I was just missing out on almost the entire context of the thing.

    • Jennifer R

      UNDERAGE prostitutes.

  • Courser_Resistance

    I have a ‘surprise’ for any male who believe he can ‘bring me to heel’. I’ve been taking care of my own affairs since I was 14 and I sure don’t need a man to control me. My ex bf tried. Which is why he’s an EX bf.

    Homey don’t play that.

  • Serai 1
  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    Timothy? Yeah. Look, there’s no such a thing as a “convincing argument sword.”

    That is not even how “good points” work, you monstrous shitgoblin.

    • Tj McGee Wright

      Yeah, well when you have a Really Good Brain(TM), lots of things *appear* to make sense.

  • Cybirr

    I really want the word (in context) ‘deplorable’ to gain the same vile cachet of the n-word. So I can use it constantly and properly to describe these deplorable people.

    • Lara

      These assholes wear it as a badge of honor.

    • Serai 1

      You can use it constantly and properly now. It means “easy to deplore”, so it fits quite well as it is.

  • Aileen

    I’m curious what happens to these mostly young men. Do they die alone, forever scorned by reasonable humans including all women everywhere? Do they come to their senses and realize how fucked up it is to think of 1/2 of humanity as objects to be fought over? Do they find some woman with enough deep-seated mental health issues that she thinks she deserves to be treated like this? Are their online personas so different from their real life personas that no one they know is aware of what they’re posting in these groups?

    • Serai 1

      From my experience, you would never guess these guys were posting this shit. Among other things, they tend to be extreme cowards who would never dare to open their yaps and spew this garbage where sane people could hear it.

      • Aileen

        It is so depressing to me that these shitshows could be walking amongst us. Dating my daughter in 10 years or so. Hopefully, she’ll be able to sniff out the rampant misogyny.

        • Serai 1

          It is depressing, but also enlightening. A fuckton of people are starting to realize the human race isn’t nearly as great as they thought it was.

          • Nick Scroggs

            Realized that back in the Bush years.

          • Lara

            Agreed. I was so disheartened by how much racism still existed in our country when President Obama was elected. I knew there was still racism, but I live in an east-coast liberal college town, and I didn’t realize the extent. Having a Scary Black Man™ in office drove these people crazy, and it was obvious.

            It was awful, but I feel like you can’t fix these awful things until they’re dragged kicking and screaming into the light.

            Now, with Trump and his evil posse in office, more is coming to light. It’s absolutely horrifying, but we’re at least becoming more and more aware of the extent of the problem.

            My hope is that decent people who were not motivated to be agents of change because they didn’t see how bad things were will now become active in politics and in ridding our nation of as much of this hatred as possible.

            Sunlight is cleansing, and something good has to come out of all of this horror show.

          • H0mer0

            [this horror show is not khorosho]

        • Jennifer R

          10 years is enough time to learn a respectable self defence art AND acquire the wisdom on when to use it.

    • Jennifer R

      Well 30 years ago they would have moved some place cheap (like alabama) and raped a woman after a night of hard drinking by both of them and used that as leverage to get her to marry him. Now that we have much more robust date rape laws yeah, dying alone and as virginal as their Episode I chase figures.

  • Tj McGee Wright

    Perhaps these forums (Echo Chambers of Angry-Stupid, for short) aren’t such a great idea after all.

  • Scrofula

    Clearly there is some kind of hair-thing going on. I’m not sure which comes first; but every day I get a little bit happier that mine’s falling out.

  • badtonto

    Gulp…thank you Robyn. Hadn’t heard about this murder and I’ve had a bit of time to reflect on it and the post you’ve written, now that my soul has stopped dry retching.

    So girls done broke your heart fellas? It hurts, sure it does. Bitchez do what bitchez do. Here’s my shoulder to snot on if you like. Some nights, after wacking off to some crazy porn, you go to bed feeling so fucking empty inside because man oh man, wouldn’t it be nice (thank you, ‘Pinkham’s Law’) to have ‘sum wimmins to make you some nice sammiches’? Loneliness really sucks balls hard sometimes dude, I know. Here’s my other shoulder.

    But bitchez gotta die? As any self actualized man will tell you, on and off this forum, real men don’t sit around endlessly whining about ‘bitchez being bitchez’; real men suck it up and go on. They understand that if you want a girl to treat you right, it’s ‘quid pro quo’, bro.

    And see, I’m a fag, a fag by design. And I was a wee little fag at that. Growing up, I watched powerless and with anguish as my father endlessly abused and humiliated my mother (gentle beauty, her…it was frowned upon in polite society but still acceptable in those days; ah, the 60’s)…then watched a sister suffer a nightmaric cornucopia of abuse from her ‘if I can’t have her, nobody will’ husband, narrowly escaping death herself. (Lucky her; far too many women didn’t in those days and still don’t.) So when this fag reached manhood and himself grew a set, he decided that he would never again stay silent if he saw the ‘men’ treating the ‘wimmins’ like that. Oh sure, he almost got the snot beat out of him a couple times but he didn’t give a fuck because no one was ever again going to prevent him from doing the right thing.

    I once took nephew aside whilst in the full throes of adolescence, was talking shit about ‘bitchez’ and told him, “Ya know, ‘fucking chicks’ doesn’t make you a ‘real man’; do you know what a ‘real man’ is? A real man never abuses those who are weaker than him. A real man always protects those who are weaker than him and a real man always stands up to injustice where ever he sees it. And in my lifetime, I’ve actually met more women who’ve met that standard than men.” Sobered him up a bit.

    (and sorry guys, many exceptions to the contrary but I’m still down with my homegirls on that one)

    So, these ‘4chan’, these ‘manosphere’, these ‘MGTOW’ type guys? In the truly pejorative sense of the word? They’re the real fags.

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      Indeed. If MRAs came in talking their trash at any Eagle (or similar bar)… let’s just say you’re going to want to have your popcorn ready.

    • Parakeetist

      Bless you.

  • NotALiar
  • Serai 1
  • YourNameHere

    I just saw an article on Medium about the Matilda Effect that directly helps speak to the MRA claim that one of the evidence-based arguments that women are inferior is that women hold so few patents. (the dudes in one thread had a good back and forth about why this might be other than women being inferior like why women are less likely to be risk takers until the mod threw a fit and said, ‘Men are just better. We just are.’)

    The comments are men claiming this happens to men as well so it’s not gendered and it doesn’t matter to speak of the gendered part. So I’m curious, how long has the joke about Secretaries doing all the real work existed?

    Because I’ll be honest, I find it harder to speak to men now. Behavior that is forgiven in men makes me mean or negative. The guys at work aren’t told to smile. And everyone in my office is liberal. Every time I speak to a man now, I have to wonder, does he think I’m less for being a woman? How long is it going to take to find out if he won’t respect my opinions the way he does a guy’s opinion? I have more in common with men but I hesitate.

    I’m sorry. I know it’s not fair but I don’t know what else to do.

    • Serai 1

      So I’m curious, how long has the joke about Secretaries doing all the real work existed?

      That’s only a joke to people who aren’t secretaries.

      As to your last point, what are you apologizing for? You’ve learned a hard truth about life – that men are handed privilege over women from birth, and the majority of them have no problem with it and enjoy it. That’s life on Earth for women, honey.

      • YourNameHere

        I’m apologizing because I don’t like that I’m pre-judging people. I feel like I’m back to the same feminism I had when I was 13 that warned never to trust men that drove off my male friends.

        • Serai 1

          Sounds like your “male friends” weren’t actually friends at all. Stop apologizing for realizing that life is unfair and undeserving people are handed shit they didn’t earn. Guilt is bad enough when it’s warranted. There’s no reason to go draping yourself in it at the behest of a bunch of spoiled assholes. (P.S. – it also sounds like your 13-year-old self knew the score. LISTEN TO HER.)

        • Iam Reading

          The only 13 year old males looking for a purely platonic relationship with a girl are gay or rely late bloomers. Your mistrust is well placed.

        • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

          Your 13 year old girl feminism was wise. You can’t trust men, period. Not even your dad or brother. They ALL see us as inferior to them. Some malevolently, some not but virtually none see us as truly equal.

          • Lily412

            I sincerely doubt that.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      I experienced the very same thing in an office where everyone was politically liberal. No one ever told me to smile, but certainly the value of my opinion and that of a female colleague, who was by far the most competent and hardworking person in our group, were discounted.

      • Serai 1

        It’s one of the hardest lessons for us liberal women – that far too many “liberal” men are really just playing Dress Up Pretend when it comes to equality and rights. ‘Tis why I do not trust them implicitly – they have to earn my trust, because I’ve seen that shit way too many times.

        • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

          Exactly. In my experience, many liberal men are only liberal because of a cause that matters to them personally. The environment, wanting higher wages or universal health care, or maybe racial equality. Gender equality, however, is a factor for virtually none of them. Never assume that a man is on your side just because he’s not a right winger.

          • Serai 1

            Do NOT get me started on the fuckheads who only profess to be liberal in order to get laid.

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      As a gay man, I have a pretty good idea what you mean.

    • HorseChestnut

      You’re right: it’s not fair. Misogyny and sexism destroy people, relationships, societies. It isn’t fair to any of us that women can’t trust men. It hurts.

      It’s not you that’s being unfair.

  • Keith Taylor

    Thanks for doing more than one person’s share to encourage these … yeah, “deplorables” will do … Donald Trump. Maybe it’s better that we know about them. Nauseating but sobering. And anybody with one tattered shred of decency left will respond with the cold and total contempt they rate.

  • Suttree

    You know it’s funny, I never meet these guys IRL. Maybe I do and they don’t share their opinions with me as willingly as other white guys (and women) down south thought they could say racial epithets in front of me. I can only suspect that either they are really wimpy and afraid to state their convictions in public, or I just don’t know any out and proud fucking misogynist/racist assholes. I understand people in NYC being cool, but I live in fucking Jersey. (albeit one of the most liberal counties in Jersey)

    • Serai 1

      You meet them all the time. You just don’t know it.

      • Suttree

        That’s what I figured. I’m just glad they figure out not to say that shit to me. It took me a while down south to get the people that I knew to cut it out with racial epithets. It’s fun yelling at your boss that you are going to quit if he doesn’t knock that shit off.
        ETA: By fun I mean infuriating.

        • Serai 1
          • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

            In government and larger companies, it can be worth your job If you’re caught, even if they find it on social media.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          I have had great results by looking at the offender with cold, cold eyes and saying, in a cold, polite voice, “You know, most people assume I’m white.” Pause. “Please don’t say that around me again.” Pause. Cold, polite smile. Turn and walk away. Very important – don’t look back. Just keep walking.

          It works because I am white. But it drives the racists nuts.

          • Suttree

            Haha!

          • Serai 1

            LOL, good one! I’ll have to remember that.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            One woman I did this to spent months surreptitiously checking me out. It was fucking hilarious. You couse practically see the thought-bubble. “Asian? Nah. Hispanic? Hmmmmm…black? Maybe….” And because I had been so very cold yet polite, she couldn’t bring herself to ask. It felt damn good. And she never used even slightly inappropriate language around me again.

          • BearDeLaOursistance

            Butch weight-lifting bear now commits to do the same i/r/t homophobia. Damn satisfying to call these haters out when they least expect it!

          • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

            Thank you, and I mean that. :)

          • kaydenpat

            Lol!! You devil, you.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            We haven’t met, and I see you’re mostly a joemygod poster. Nice to meet you!

          • Iam Reading

            Well played. I’m going to appropriate and expand to gender identity and sexual preference as well as race. Thanks for the inspiration!

          • Jpatrick

            That is a great response. If you don’t mind, I’m going to suggest my girls say the same thing. They hear this crap all the time and never know what to say besides ” You are Awful!!!!” (Although, my 15 yr old has just resorted to yelling YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON to mixed results at her lunch table) This is why I love this “no comments allowed” mommy blog place.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Don’t mind? I think all of us white folks need to step up. As long as we stay silent, the racists win.

        • Zyxomma

          This is all too common in the suburbs. Younger sister earned her way through chiropractic school working as a waitress in a seafood restaurant. To hear her friends speak casually of the “nigger lady” who was a customer during a shift sickened me. And these were the girls. In New Jersey.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      My 13 year old has met at least one in public school in Chicago. He told her “we used to burn people like you at the stake.” Luckily she only had him in a learning lab, because he isn’t smart enough to be in most of the classes she takes, and then the school apparently transferred him into a special learning lab for little assholes with oppositional-defiant disorder.

      • Suttree

        Ugh! I can only imagine what the parents are like.

        • The Flaming Carrot

          I’m not sure; I was about to ask for a conference with them even though she didn’t want me to. He and his little friends clearly spend lots of time on the internet, because they have all the Mens’ Rights lingo down.

          • Serai 1

            Yet another example of how wonderful the fucking internet is.

    • HorseChestnut

      I meet these guys. They think I’m safe to talk to, because I’m working-class, pale, and masculine. My dad was a proud racist and misogynist, and I grew up around bikers, so I’m naturally good at making angry people feel comfortable around me.

      The highest concentration of sexist/ racist assholes I’ve met was in a computer science program at a good school in a blue state. It was unexpected and depressing.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Have I told you recently that you are a sweetheart? And also part of the solution? Because you are both of these things.

        • HorseChestnut

          Thank you, and I hope you’re right.

      • chortlingdingo

        It’s shocking how many of these guys are in the tech industry. It’s part of the reason why I ended up changing majors in college. In four semesters of electrical engineering and computer science, there were only two people who talked to me in all of those classes: the other girl, and a 14 year old boy who had graduated high school extremely early. I felt very unwelcome.

        Of course, I work in the tech industry anyway, but my company is amazing and I haven’t run into a single one of these kind of people. I don’t doubt that they’re there, but they don’t express it at work.

      • Jacob Prescott

        That doesn’t surprise me at all. The biggest demographic of these red pill MRA/MGTOW/white nationalist morons tend to be around techy/geeky professions. As a full fledged geek and proud gamer myself, the hobby can be very insular and solitary. Many of my online friends have subpar social skills, and that often leads to a terrible track record in real life; especially in the dating scene . A normal person outgrows that awkwardness and makes an effort to improve, but red pill guys instead seek to blame others for their own failures; in other words they are weak people who cannot stand their own fallibility.

        Another problem is the amount of time spent on the internet; especially in forums. The internet is great, don”t get me wrong, but it also makes niche views more powerful. There aren’t enough of these kind of guys to make a big impact in any particular city/state, but on the Internet they can gather in force.

        This is why you don’t run in to them in public though. They are the very definition of paper tigers. They lack social skills to make a case in an actual conversation, and they lack the confidence in a face to face encounter that the anonymity of the Internet normally provides for them.

    • bopeep

      That’s because they don’t have real lives.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Sometimes I get the idea that this is part of the fallout of media claiming “nerds” are cool, but like surface nerd, “hot guy in glasses playing Black Ops.”

    • HorseChestnut

      The existence of female nerds complicates your theory.

      • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

        Not really, we don’t do very well either unless we’re hot. The few movies about girl geeks who get the hot guy all had a hot girl in glasses pretending to be nerdy.

        • Keith Taylor

          Goes back a long way, that stereotype. “Miss Blenkinsop, with your glasses off, you’re beautiful!” I think it was Isaac Asimov who said the obvious reason for that cliché was the association “Woman with glasses reads stuff … intellectual … not hot … off-putting … removes glasses, removes badge of intelligence, becomes attractive.”

        • HorseChestnut

          Well, exactly. Nerd ladies “don’t do very well” in the hetero dating scene, yet aren’t particularly likely to gather in internet forums where they encourage each other to enact violent retribution on the men who won’t sleep with them. So I think “male” has a lot more to do with it than “nerd.”

    • Gamergate =/= nerd.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

        Gamergate was just the video-gaming wing of the MRA/racists.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Tifosi Suprema

      The women I’ve dated have been Geeky like me. We would walk into a comic book store, and neither staff or customers would say a *word*. It was actually funny, N. and I would do it just to stir things up at times, imagining the conversations once we left.

  • Kitty Smith

    Note that these are the idiots who whine *so terribly* when women assume men are threats.

    • britishvoiceman

      Trump himself is shit-scared of strong women.

  • Iam Reading

    And they will sell out all of our freedoms to please their shitlord and spite women and minorities.

  • Alt-dog

    That was a very enlightening, disturbing, and well-written post Robyn. Thanks for bringing this stuff to light.

  • Zyxomma

    First I heard about the murderous scum on TV news. Then I saw the newspaper headline, where he stated his attention to murder black men who were with blonde women. I realized he’d killed an old man because the young black men with blonde women would have fought back. What a spineless coward. He’s from Maryland. If he wanted to murder blacks, he could have gone to Baltimore. Instead, he wanted NYC because it’s the “media capital of the world.” May all his meals be salted rat dicks, and may no one give him water.

    • Bigby

      He’s from Baltimore. A long time racist, redlined, low class, 80% white enclave in one of the most segregated cities in the USA (look up the book “Not in my Neighborhood” by Antero Pietela). That hood is now yuppies, hipsters, and angry meth-addicted lower middle class whites who’s ancestors moved there to isolate themselves from the black people moving to post-Civil War B’more.

      He did his shit in NYC to get ‘optimum attention’, but only liberals know what he did because our media has decided a racist, terrorist act in the country’s largest city doesn’t merit jack shit for attention.

      I love how he’s ‘scared for his life’ in prison because there are “more blacks in here than I would’ve thought and they’re really mad at me for what I’ve said and done”. If he’s not killed quickly, he will spend a lot of time in protective solitary (which does wonders for a paranoid, angry, delusional psyche).

      • ron

        You sure hate white people.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          Nope…just bigoted fuckwits who are a-skeered of women and any man with a slightly different skin tone than they have, and who take out their terror on other people.

          • ron

            I’m just curious why you only call out the one specific type. Why not Islamic terrorists who kill tens of thousands of people a year? Mexican cartels who chop people’s heads off with chainsaws? It’s curious to me why you think neckbeards and internet trolls are such threats, or at least bigger threats than worldwide terrorist/criminal organizations.

      • Fritz1964

        Go easy on Balmer, hon. It’s trying its best.

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    The scarest part of Trump stealing the presidency is that it encouraged the vilest of the vile to come out of the woodwork like roaches or rats. All the MRAs, Trolls and white supermactists and Neo Nazis, gay bashers and religious fantics of all stripes have decided that since Trump stole the election. They have a blank check to do what they want ,they can say and act like they want with zero consquences. God, its like a virus spreading.

    • davidhollenshead

      Last time I checked, there were 1300 hate crimes since the election.
      Yes, Führer Trump has empowered the worst that America has, from Alex Jones to the KKK.

      • Alexander Stallwitz

        An Imam actually told Musilm women that it was okay if they didnt wear a Haijab because Allah would understand they were scared for their lives.

        • MassiveQuantitiesofPie

          Several of them are doing it now, given how dangerous walking while Muslim can be these days.

          • Alexander Stallwitz

            whats sad is I cant say they are being overly paranoid for doing so, Trump and his minions seem to think every Muslim is out to take over the West and they have to destroy them first. the Alt Righters are panting over having a second Crusade or a eighth one to be historically accurate

          • P. P. Showers

            Bring back hats. With hatpins.

        • Lotus954

          That’s the saddest thing I’ve heard all day.

  • Keith Taylor

    Excellent writing. Pity you have to waste one moment of your attention on these miserable screwed-up murderous bastards, but that’s the world we live in … and I notice that character who said smugly, “Brevik was a hero my lad” (I’m not YOUR lad, you prat, and you can believe it) didn’t even spell his name correctly. Anders Breivik, who killed 77 people, gave the Nazi salute in court, and then complained, had the gall, the … the … the … words fail … the gall to complain that HIS human rights had been violated.
    Breivik has been diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder.
    Like someone else in a much higher position than Breivik.
    I suppose 4chan serves one useful purpose. It gathers the vultures together where the carcass is, so that we can recognise them and beware.

    • davidhollenshead

      4chan & 8chan are watched by law enforcement for a very good reason.

      • Keith Taylor

        Good news.

        • iceweasels

          8chan is full of pedophiles also.

          • Hugh G. Rection

            Shit who told you?? LMAO JK

  • Anita Ledford

    Well, we have seen the caliber of women willing to be with Losers like these guys. They will breed more uneducated Losers, live on welfare and Hate. The world will pass them by and they will become the new Neanderthals.

    • ron

      “They will breed more uneducated Losers, live on welfare and Hate”

      Sounds like the ghetto scum you lefturds are always coddling and sticking up for.

      • Fritz1964

        Trenchant rebuttal there, sport.

      • jerrrrrrrricho

        Get your mom to explain it to you, Ron.

  • Jo Mathie

    This idea that men are “owed” women is so toxic. I can’t remember it being so prevalent a few years ago, or if it was then it was reported on so much. Us single gals quite happily watch films or read if we want a romance fix, some of these men just whine endlessly or become violent – there’s such a disconnect.

    • “M”

      It’s that broken Y chromosome.

      • Hugh G. Rection

        Yup. And that broken X chromosome is what causes women to march down streets making hypocritical statements and whining about anything that doesn’t go their way.

        • “M”

          First? You clearly know nothing about neuroscience. You can look up what I said. But you? You’re just babbling a bunch of angry hyperbole.

          Second? You didn’t get the joke (but of course you wouldn’t because you don’t understand / haven’t seen the main science) and you clearly have no sense of humor, especially not about types like yourself.

          What’s wrong, snowflake? Your group profiled in the article and it was a little too familiar for comfort?

          Finally? Your username is repulsive. But I’m sure you knew that already and that’s why you chose it.

          My point? You’re making it. Moron.

          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvT2jepUEAAtden.jpg

        • cats530

          What’s with the obsession with your penis/screen name? Are you compensating for something?

      • Lotus954

        It’s that wash of testosterone that they get as they exit the birth canal…it causes insanity.

    • Lily412

      I’d say that it’s been prevalent since the first cave man realized he could physically overpower a woman. If you can take it, it’s your property, right? Ugh. I want to lie down.

    • Roadstergal

      Hey, remember that scene in The Empire Strikes Back when Leia was stuck on a ship with Han, and was giving him clear verbal and body-language ‘no, go away’s, and he persisted and kissed her anyway?

      And remember how that was SO ROMANTIC?

      • Jo Mathie

        Han Solo and Kyle Reese were my first crushes when I was little. One was a pushy asshole and the other one fell in love because his future son gave him a photo of his mother. The eighties were a very strange time for romance.

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  • Riley Whodat Venable

    Thank you Robyn. I have always liked your writing, but had no idea this was one of your specialties. Is there any way to give us occasional updates about this world?
    Call me crazy, but the more people who know that these groups are Trump’s core support the less powerful Trump will be.

    BTW, I just laugh my a$$ of when I hear these guys complain about Ethnomasochism.

    • iceweasels

      Someone else mentioned wehuntedthemammoth.com. It’s a great source for keeping up on these freaks.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        Merci boucoup.

      • Roadstergal

        Because I am scared to click on links – is WHTM a believer site, or more of an Editrix site?

        • iceweasels

          Oh no, it’s a monitoring them site. It’s a really good site. He gives lots of updates and news on all the biggest MRA, PUA and MGTOW sites.

          • Roadstergal

            Thank you! I will now feel OK to click on it. I mean, not _OK_, but… you know.

          • iceweasels

            Oh I totally understand. I’m like that with sites I don’t know.

        • (((Aron)))

          It was formerly called Manboobz.

          That should tell you enough ;)

  • bopeep

    Anyone interested in keeping up with the “manosphere” and online misogyny should check out http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/ which has articles like this several times a week. It’s funny and sad and interesting.

  • Jeffery Campbell

    Once upon a time, everyone knew some unfortunate, low life, low intelligence, backward kook whose opinions he (and they are always men) mostly kept to himself because he knew they were awful and crazy. Even the slightest ridicule silenced him. Now, through the wonders of this online world, he is able to find comrades who share and magnify his terribleness. Whatever shame kept him in check has been completely eradicated because he has found others who think as he does.

  • ron

    You didn’t/couldn’t refute a single one of their points…

    • Jacob Prescott

      Oh yeah Ron, which point do you find most compelling?

      • ron

        Well since none of them were convincingly refuted or argued. All of them.

        • Themostunclean

          So, since most people won’t waste the time of day to argue with flat-earthers then you’re just going to believe the world is flat?

          The point of the article wasn’t to argue the merits of their beliefs. It was to point out the prevalence of those beliefs on shitty websites.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      When they make a point worth spending more than a moment of time to think about – other than the time it takes to decide whether to walk away from the ignorant, bigoted asshole or laugh and then walk away from the ignorant, bigoted asshole – then there will be a point to refute.

      Until then, they’re just a bunch of ignorant, bigoted assholes running their mouths with nothing to say.

      • ron

        Them caring about the safety of their families/children isn’t a legitimate concern?

        I just can’t take people like you and the author of this article seriously. You preach tolerance, you preach not judging a race by the actions of extremists then you turn around and do the exact thing you preach against to white people. Look at the last sentence of the title:

        “And white men are listening”

        Not racist white men, not Nazi white men. Just white men, as if millions of white guys across the country are going out and slaughtering blacks in the streets. I mean come on, even someone as indoctrinated in SJW cultism as you has to see the irony and hypocrisy here

  • TCB

    “I got made fun of once because I said a bunch of racist shit, so I became more racist also and a murderer.”- pretty much every guy in this article, and also the Internet. What fuckin’ snowflakes.

    • Themostunclean

      Thank you for applying that insult to the correct group of self centered, whiny crybabies. tRump should wear a little snowflake pin on his lapel instead of the American flag.

  • Themostunclean

    The manner in which ISIS and the alt-right conduct their business of recruitment and spreading terror is virtually identical. Not to mention the misogynistic worldview they share.

    I’ve been saying for over a year- the alt-right is a terrorist organization. So where is the media when it comes time to label their acts of violence as terrorism? Well, that doesn’t get ratings because the drooling masses only want to hear about the BROWN people with the funny religion fucking shit up.

    Only 18% of all attacks labeled as terrorism in the U.S. are Islam based and only 5% of them are foreign born actors. Yet foreign born terrorists receive 80% of the media coverage. It’s despicable.

  • sonaliraq

    Aside from all of his horrible racist ideas, the idea that this guy thought any woman would give a shit about who he thinks we shouldn’t date is utterly amazing.

  • Beowoof14

    The more I see stuff such as this, the more I think Idiocracy was a documentary.

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