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Hi Vicki. (self.serious_gaming)

Unicorn_Mike が 投稿 - announcement

https://imgur.com/a/dkCqE

Remember when you manipulated the only friend you had? Lied to her about abuse and rape? Made her sick and made her lose sleep? Took time away from her own life to try and help you? And you lied ? Profusely? Fabricated so much and for what? You are a fraud. You are a disgusting human being and no one will never ever forgive you for what you did that night. So fuck you , and good fucking riddance to your stream.

For the users in here, there's your master piece. Follow the link. Enjoy. And fuck these scum bags.

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[–]seriousl0l 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I just want to say, if this is true I hope that Vic gets out of there regardless of what people think of her. No one deserves that to happen to them and especially to be treated that way by your husband if you're the victim of something like that.

[–]PikachuMan87 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I 100% agree

[–]Cielo11 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait, isn't the OP of this thread saying its all lies??? Read the post again.

I find it hard to believe anyone would confide in a friend that they had been raped by starting that conversation with

"I have more drama".

"His friend pretty much rapes me"

The way this stuff is worded is troubling me and it makes sense OP is saying its all lies.

[–]seriousl0l 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know, no one knows for sure, not even OP

[–]Sludgy_Veins 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do you not realize she's making it up? She's the psychopath, not the other way around

[–]suns_fan13 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not true, she admitted to falsely claiming rape not knowing that a white knight would pop off and instantly post the convo online

[–]iPube 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am so fucking glad I found this sub just in time for this drama to unfold.

[–]SayceGards 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what's going on or who these people are.

Anybody wanna give me a tl;dr?

[–]PikachuMan87 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Sad. She wants out and has been offered help but she'll never accept the offer because material things are more important to her than her happiness.

[–]SeriousGaslighting 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

or safety.

[–]Koala_Beary 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (10子コメント)

The part I don't understand is, she's shown a lot of resentment / disregard for the pets. How are they an excuse not to leave.

[–]RoDoSu 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So frickin true! I'm glad to see someone else was thinking that.

[–]Blue_Lurker 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (7子コメント)

The 6 cats are Bengals... How much are the cats worth?

[–]seriousl0l 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

6k+ probably for all of them, but maybe less depending on age

[–]Doodooshuffler 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Imagine how much better off they'd be if that money went toward Alan's nasty mouth and they chose rescue/shelter cats instead. Their financial decisions are what a nineteen year old would do before they learn how to be responsible.

[–]MOOzillah 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's basically condemning them to death...read up on shelters/rescue places.

[–]PeanutButterMouth 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shelters and rescues have to put animals down because idiots like these two buy pets from mills/breeders instead of rescuing the animals in the shelters. Should these animals starve to death on the streets instead, is that more humane?

[–]SeriousGaslighting 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

These designer cats would find new homes within hours; it's the 6 scrubby toms that didn't find those homes that get the needle.

[–]MOOzillah 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Either way, the animals are in a better situation now than they more than likely would be playing the new home lotto. As much as i don't like the way SG treats their animals (more love!) there are MUCH worse pet owners out there...sure they can improve on A LOT of things but they are better off with alan and vic..

[–]zeezle 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think /u/Doodooshuffler meant that if they'd adopted their cats from a shelter rather than buying bengals, not suggesting that they should take their cats to a shelter.

[–]Sludgy_Veins 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

because she's full of shit and seeking attention from whoever she is texting for sympathy. How do you guys not see this?

[–]Suzzme 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the actual fuck? Like damn this shit dropping bigger than wiki leaks. I wish they were live so we can see how they deny this.

[–]z0ne01 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lady's and gentlemen, the ball has been dropped..... IMO this dirty trick was lying to her friend in those texts. Even with her mom being more delusional then the trick, if she knew even half of that there's NO WAY her mom would leave and not take her with her.

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    [–]z0ne01 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I remember the night before her mom was leaving the scumbag was saying he wanted to have sex with her mom, the trick and some other girl that was there....... Of course her mom being wasted the whole time and who knows what pills she takes I guess anything is possible. The scumbag dude is beyond fked up with serious mental issues from the days of way back, but it just doesn't add up.

    [–]wuck-fhiteknights 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I apologize for doubting you & thank you for sharing these it's very enlightening

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      [–]seriousl0l 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I love how often alan goes on his holier than tho rants about being nice to people and not harming people and he's an abusive piece of shit

      [–]z0ne01 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Golden moment!!! Charges 10 for a "shot" fills 1/4 of a shot glass, says cheers and takes the fake shot....... Then crys

      [–]TexasTango 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I have the same cooler :)

      [–]seriousl0l 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      I didn't even read this all yet but holy shit. I don't know who is a bigger piece of shit, but I'm kind of leaning toward Alan still

      Also when are these messages from?

      [–]Unicorn_Mike[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (7子コメント)

      October 9th 2016.

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        [–]Unicorn_Mike[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        The conversation took place on October 9th 100%

        [–]DMoC 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Isn't that also around the time she disappeared for like an hour + to get food with that one guy while Alan was playing Pokemon Go and when she came back her hair was all fucked up

        [–]seriousl0l 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        OK thanks, I was mostly curious because she said things were bad a year prior. When did her and Alan get together? Wouldn't that be like the beginning of their relationship?

        [–]Koala_Beary 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        They've been together for about 5 years I think?

        [–]seriousl0l 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Ohh okay I didn't realize it was that long

        [–]Koala_Beary 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

        Holy shit.

        "I have stuff and pets" - NO, if someone rapes you and your husband deems it as cheating you get the fuck out of there.

        If it's true about TMT & Mr TMT signing for that house then leave and let them fight it out with Alan. No material possesion is worth that.

        [–]seriousl0l 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Do you think her mom even knows? How could her and steven go there knowing that?

        [–]Koala_Beary 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I dunno but could maybe be something to do with Steven leaving at the same time as her mom this time. Maybe Alan is in better control of himself and his behavior around TMT?

        [–]scatmango 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        (Sorry Koala_Beary, meant to reply to seriousl0l)

        You guys are crazy if you don't think TMT knows every tiny little detail about Alan (just from experience, at that age, you can gauge what type of person someone is with relatively little interaction), not just from her own observations, but what Vic tells her.

        Deep down I think TMT has either been told, or knows exactly what is going on, she probably just doesn't want to intervene, or has tried to intervene with no effect.

        Now that I think about it, does Vic even have a relationship with her dad at all? TMT might not want to be cut off like her dad.

        Shit is interesting and confusing as fuck either way.

        [–]Koala_Beary 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Did she cut her dad off?
        IDK why but I always thought it was the other way around, especially when we've not seen him visit and he wasn't at the wedding.

        [–]scatmango 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well the way I see it is that Vic chose Alan instead of following her dad's advice, which by extension is akin to her cutting her father out because he obviously would be super disappointed in his daughter.

        TMT has a relationship with her daughter and probably doesn't want to hurt it.

        [–]seriousl0l 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I just don't understand how she could go there and even pretend to be nice to Alan unless it's because she goes there to check up on Vic

        [–]Koala_Beary 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Same, if I knew someone was treating my child like that I couldn't bite my tongue.

        Scatmango has a point though, if Vic has cut herself off from her dad with her life choices then maybe TMT isn't saying anything because it's better than no contact?

        Someone has to admit there's a problem and actually want help before you can help them.

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          [–]Captain_Blunderbuss 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Do we know who alans friend was that supposedly raped her? because obviously people go to prison for that shit and i have no doubt some of her crazy supporters will be witch hunting

          [–]seriousl0l 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You would think so but they're all delusional and in denial and say the logs or fake or something else

          [–]CommunistHapa 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          I don't think she lied about getting raped. When she gets drunk she does black out. Alans harassment is pretty toxic when hes drunk and shes right about alan being passive aggressive I've read post here talking about it. While vic may lie on stream about upcoming events or talking about playing a game I don't think its justified to dog pile her and shame her. So far I feel bad for vic, alan does not listen to advice and will keep being an alcoholic in denial.

          [–]seriousl0l 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I have to agree. I'm sure Vic is untrustworthy, etc. but I really wouldn't put any of this past Alan, it just seems like something he would do. I hope for Vic's sake it isn't true. If it is true I don't know how she has lived with him for a year past that acting like everything is okay. I'm sure the abuse has only gotten worse

          [–]SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          He needs help. She does too, but speaking as a recovered alcoholic myself Alan isn't going to "just quit" being addicted to booze.

          Idk. My ex left me and that was sort of a catalyst to get my shit on track.

          Also I feel I should clarify that by no means am I trying to excuse the vile shit he's being accused of.

          [–]seriousl0l 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (5子コメント)

          What so, do you know the rape thing was made up? I'm a little confused

          [–]Unicorn_Mike[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          When someone cries wolf so often it's hard to tell.

          [–]48395634986 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          seems like she fucked some other dude and now just said she was blacked out and raped because alan found out, and blames it on alan

          i think this for 2 reasons

          they know everyone who comes to their house. if one of them 'raped' her, they would know exactly who it was so the police could get involved easily.

          and people who are raped aren't just like "oh, btw i was raped too!" then go to the next topic like it was having a bowl of cereal

          [–]Blue_Lurker 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          After seeing her behavior on the stream when she's drunk, (she transforms more to be like a slut) it's more likely you're right and everyone know that those times are only times Alan gets lucky.

          [–]seriousl0l 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          It is weird how nonchalantly she said it, but if she was confiding in her friend (who seems to not like Alan) why would she lie about it to the friend?

          [–]Sludgy_Veins 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          When you're a person who lies a lot, you don't need motive to tell lies - trust me

          [–]Fuc_I_Bir 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

          For everuone trying to figure out who it was that "raped" her ..check in the two weeks before October the 9th. ( she said a couple weeks previous to the 9th in her txts to her friend)

          [–]PikachuMan87 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Guys, she said they hung out with a couple. Someone already posted a link from September 10th where they're hanging out with Dinsigh, Ellie, Rocco, and Amanda.

          The suspect right now imo is Dinsigh

          [–]seriousl0l 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          You're right. Who's the guy in the black? Also just fucking jesus christ with the fucking car give away. What a piece of shit, he should really just be in jail but he's acting like he's some saint hosting a fake car give away

          https://www.twitch.tv/videos/92694793

          [–]z0ne01 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          This dumb fk is SO delusional he really thought he could get 5k subs......

          [–]Doodooshuffler 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I think the consensus was that it was just another ploy to get subs and he never suspected he would actually get that many.

          [–]Koala_Beary 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          That's pirate_ships, he was at the super bowl party too.

          [–]Koala_Beary 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          *edited, I got days wrong.

          Party on 2nd of October:
          https://twitter.com/seriousgaming/status/782762314076270593

          Twitchcon party on 29th September:
          https://twitter.com/seriousgaming/status/781610798858641408

          [–]MakeTwitchGreatAgain 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          So I am a little confused. Was Vic lying to this person about the rape/abuse? Or did it happen? Because a lot of the comments on here are going after Alan. But if she was lying, I would say she's a bigger piece of shit.

          [–]twitchisacesspool 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (11子コメント)

          What should Unicorn_Mike's flair be? I've come up with a few but I can't decide. Unless they don't want a flair then that's fine too.

          [–]Fuc_I_Bir 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Truth Teller

          Edit: Internet lagged on my phone sorry for the repeat posts

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            [–]z0ne01 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            The Bomb Dropper

            Dropping Bombs

            [–]MOOzillah 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Oppenheimer

            [–]Doodooshuffler 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Oracle

            [–]imacreepcreepcreep 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            The part where she goes mute for a long time because she is "talking to Alan" happened on October 9th:

            [2016-10-09 21:07:53 UTC] carnasses: Guys, I stopped by their house and no one would answer the door

            [2016-10-09 21:08:05 UTC] carnasses: The doors were also locked, they're never locked

            Full chat log

            and also spawned this thread in the old sub:

            https://www.reddit.com/r/SeriousGaming/comments/56qd1s/the_serious_talk_today/

            [–]seriousl0l 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            [2016-10-09 21:32:16 UTC] carnasses: please show vic on stream

            [2016-10-09 21:33:33 UTC] meepmeep: carnasses why did you lie to us he said you werent there

            [2016-10-09 21:34:04 UTC] carnasses: i was just fucking with chat

            I'm guessing Alan told him to tell everyone he was lying to cover everything up. Kind of also shows you how hard Jeff is sucking Alan's dick and what a shithead he is if he's willing to cover something like that up

            [–]imacreepcreepcreep 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            [2016-10-09 21:34:04 UTC] carnasses: i was just fucking with chat

            A mere two minutes after this part of the conversation:

            https://i.imgur.com/yrATZwo.png

            https://i.imgur.com/YFTCzJl.png

            [–]SoSerious123 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (9子コメント)

            So who is the person that "allegedly" raped her?

            [–]PikachuMan87 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (8子コメント)

            She said they were hanging out with a couple that night. So whoever it was, was a guy from one of the couples they hang out with.. there aren't many so it boils down to like what, 3, 4 guys? Probably wouldn't be too hard to figure it out.

            [–]imacreepcreepcreep 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Closest instance to this of them having a couple over is on September 10th. I doubt she's referring to Rocco so whoever the guy in bottom left cam with pink shirt on must be the dude:

            https://oddshot.tv/s/MjSnuA

            [–]PotatoShuffler420 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Awkwardness and tension two nights later:

            https://oddshot.tv/s/DAROik

            [–]sgdickpuncher 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Guy in the pink shirt is Dinsigh I think. The girl in the kitchen is Ellie, the girl Alan was all over one night on stream and chat was freaking out over. Notice they don't come over anymore...wonder why.

            [–]Koala_Beary 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            They came for the super bowl party in Feb though

            [–]sgdickpuncher 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Did they? I missed that one then. Good catch.

            [–]SoSerious123 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Hmm... I want to believe Vic cuz rape is no joke but on the other hand it is Vic we're talking about here. She likes to lie. Maybe she was hammered and because her relationship with Alan was going to shit, maybe she didn't get raped at, maybe in her drunken stupor she just said fuck it, and fucked the dude. Who knows.

            [–]Sludgy_Veins 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            This seems like the likely case

            [–]BabylonRocker 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Its really bad when youre not sure what to believe. Sure, Alan is a piece of shit who is definitely capable of doing all the shit Vic accuses him. On the other hand, Vic has been caught making shit up so often at this point...

            [–]shuryouz 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

            She knew who she was marrying.

            [–]Captain_Blunderbuss 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

            she left her previous marriage which she was a trophy wife to be in a marriage with alan so she can again be a trophy wife, shes not 10/10 but shes obviously a lot better looking than alan and this is what she does, go for men who would never say no to her and then is surprised when they are insecure and paranoid

            [–]Shillen1 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            I hate when people think looks are all that should determine who should be with whom. Vic may be an 8/10 in the looks department, but she's got a disgusting personality, is dumber than a doornail and is obnoxious, she's only like a 3/10 overall person. I'd rate Alan about the same. IMO they deserve each other.

            [–]Captain_Blunderbuss 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            so what your saying is that you agree with me?

            [–]seriousl0l 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            You'd rate alan an 8/10? lol

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            [–]IAlwaysKappa 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            'we where swated' my ass, also she knew alans history prior to a fue months ago. lf shes not willing to help her self then let her burn.

            [–]xavierc520 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            me right now https://gyazo.com/7af02ad6dacd927b1b2bb82ae795de7f

            [–]seriously_icky 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            All I can say is that if they get on and stream today, they both have a very big set of balls. I would crawl in a hole first before showing my face. But who knows with those two.

            I have also known a woman who was in an abusive relationship where both people were drunks. She was smart, pretty and had a career in law enforcement as did her ex. She died about 10 years ago. Basically drank herself to death. He moved on to another state and another wife. If my friend couldn't fix her life, I have no hope for these two.

            [–]woohalladoobop 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Coming from /r/all this subreddit seems like probably bad news.

            [–]SeriousGaslighting 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Favorite comment in a day full of golden comments. You chose a good day to come here. Basically you decided to take a vacation in Hiroshima, August 6, 1945 and you just got off the plane. Welcome!!!

            [–]deceptivegaming 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            feel like it's time this whole mess ends up on /r/drama... there's way too much popcorn-worthy events unfolding here to just keep it all bottled up in this small subreddit, anyone feel like putting a post together?

            [–]seriousl0l 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Post it in /r/subredditdrama it's a bigger sub they'll eat this shit up

            [–]MOOzillah 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Holy jesus christ of lords almighty frijoles carnitas cervesa pollo con limon. So this is what everyone was talking about, I'm oblivious to the stickies. Droppin NUKES up in here.

            [–]MOOzillah 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I bet revenge has never been so sweet for her friend, what an epic time.

            [–]ninifay 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Long time viewer here.

            After this bullshit, I'm done.

            [–]ninifay 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            You don't fucking scream RAPE..

            [–]0bviousTruth 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Someone got timed out for suggesting she cheated on Alan with Dinsingh. Not saying it was him but that seems awfully suspicious.

            [–]Imthebest_ 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            implosion

            https://oddshot.tv/t/SeriousGaming

            [–]katjezz 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            He came to see if i was airtight

            NOT ANYMORE

            [–]zepaladinz 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            top streamer of the year ~ new egg

            [–]THIS_IS_NOT_A_FAIL 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            >"raped"

            [–]elegiggitty 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (9子コメント)

            how is this lies? all of it is 100% believable. we just cant confirm the rape thing. everything else has happened on stream infront of hundreds of viewers in some way or another. we KNOW alan is abusive from years of watching him. we have seen him throw phones across the room, punch dents in laptops, throw ceramic plates across a table towards the desk, get really drunken angry, etc and hes literally passive aggressive and emotionally manipulative on a day to day basis.

            so how is this all lies, original poster?

            it really sounds like mean girls 2 with all the shit thats been posted lately.

            vic is a victim of an emotionally abusive relationship. even if this rape thing didnt happen, shes a victim. everyone knows it. its been going on for years. people cant do anything to help her because she has to want help herself. she has put herself in this "its not that bad" bubble like many victims do. they play it off, they say the truth and then will lie and say they were lying because they dont want to break up the relationship for one reason or another.

            we know vic lies about stupid shit. yeah, and we know she got her way to a house and all this shit just through those lies. and we can see how bad she can be.

            but she is obviously not lying about the abuse. because hundreds of us have seen it every single day. we have seen him call her names on camera. we have seen him say inappropriate shit to her mother and brother all the time. the rape thing may not have happened. we dont know. vic doesnt even know. she was blacked out. maybe alan is using this as a way to manipulate her to make her think shes not worthy of anyone better to keep her in the relationship?

            the reality is alans needed to seek help for years. and vic herself could use cognitive behavioral treatment also. but even if hundreds of people tell them this they are stuck in their own mind. they have to want it unfortunately.

            i may be wrong but i believe this sarah person who used to visit vic in chat may be related to all of this. she was her only friend back in canada as far as i can tell and maybe this sarah has felt wronged and is using a very bad tactic with this revenge posting. it shouldnt be used when it relates to lies of being in an abusive relationship when the whole world (everyone who watches their stream) can see it isnt a lie.

            [–]Fuc_I_Bir 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

            Vic is on a public stream 12hrs a day 7 days a week she has opportunities to get out from underneath Alan and his abusive nature. Here's what I think about all of this:

            1. Vic puts up with Alan because she likes aspects of their lifestyle
            2. Streaming is an addiction & both of them need to quit.
            3. Vic can leave,she has her own car, her own phone & the police will help her get clothes etc.
            4. People have trouble sympathizing with someone who wont take advice or help given to them after awhile.
            5. The rape stuff seemed like a b.s attention grab.
            6. Her Mother & Brother were just there she could have left with them.

            [–]elegiggitty 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            youre right completely.

            but you can see how stuck in her own reality when reddit does say the truth time to time and they announce to their stream that its "all lies" out of second nature now. theyre so far down their mental rabbit hole I dont think they can see the actual reality for what it is.

            [–]Fuc_I_Bir 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I think she really made a huge error in judgement when she married him & doesnt have the emotional support like she did before. She's attached to the pets Dennis,Neo & Nikita in particular & the house & life in Santee. Its a pain to start all over again in your 30's and I think thats what keeps her with him.

            He's severely abusive not to mention un hygienic & lazy, who would want to stay with that long term. I told her last year that she could do 90% of what she does now but without Alan.He ended up banning me because of it.

            [–]braincased 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            "She can leave at any time" isn't really a good argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battered_person_syndrome

            [–]SeriousGaslighting 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Battered person isn't a good description.

            [–]stevebeans 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Have you ever been married? Even with good marriages, your lives get intertwined and it isn't easy to just walk. In potentially abusive ones, it can be sometimes harder because the woman has fear to go along with everything else involved.

            [–]Doodooshuffler 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            In addition, she is probably concerned about what he would do to himself when she does leave.

            [–]Suzzme 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            You talking about the user (beaner) ? I remember she had a friend visit chat named beaner that was from her home town.

            [–]elegiggitty 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            yes that is probably it. no dude would be doing this kind of shit LOL

            [–]_LordSheogorath_ 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            relatable

            [–]SeriousVic -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (38子コメント)

            I had been venting to a friend when I was angry and upset. I exaggerated and tried to make myself feel better by talking to this person. I took advantage of her trust and turned situations that were not dire or dangerous into ones that were to get attention and support from this friend. This friend knows that I can be dramatic. I am sorry that I hurt you and that I took advantage of you. I was ashamed about what had happened so I said the things that I didn't​ mean in order to try and justify it to myself.

            I was not raped, I was ashamed of what happened. I was drunk and made a bad choice, not that, that is an excuse or makes it okay. I am sorry to Alan that it happened and we are dealing with this together.

            I am human, I make mistakes, say things I shouldn't, do things I shouldn't. But even after all this, life goes on and I choose to move forward honestly and openly. You can choose what you want to do, but I hope you all know that I am sorry to Alan and that I hurt him, and I am sorry to all those who were involved.

            I will be back on stream soon to talk with everyone.

            [–]unimanboob 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            So you cheated and screamed rape? Disgusting

            [–]Sludgy_Veins 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            pretty much bottom of the barrel bullshit this world doesn't need

            [–]Unicorn_Mike[S] 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (16子コメント)

            Sudden change of heart? Even though you came I originally and tried to start something? Tried to divulge personal information about people not involved to try and intimidate? Really, creating a user account with part of someone's last name , again a scare tactic? Mentioning someone's family member who is again in no way affiliated with this?

            You're the one on screen, no one else. And you live your life (inappropriately) on that screen in front of thousands of people. Acting as though your personal life is somehow now sacred?

            Regardless I don't give any credit for your response. Nor do I believe it. And I don't have to. Because now it doesn't even matter.

            This tragic interaction where you did what you did and said what you said was NOT a one off. This is something that has happened repeatedly in other ways. All documented.

            You have warped so many people's idea and understanding of what love, friendship and trust is. Years and years of these lies. Ruining lives. And for what? Money? Fame?

            You need help. Years someone spent trying to love you as a friend and help - and this is what happened. I hope you get right Vicki.

            [–]Suzzme 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I remember Allen calling bs on you always blacking out. If that was a real case wouldn't you stop drinking? The majority are focusing on the rape part but log 1 has my attention. You left your first husband for Allen, cheated, then decided to start having feelings for someone in chat, then this pool "rape" happened. Like you said you screamed rape so Allen would not blame you, yet you can't see reasoning to his actions? You is a ho. Lying to hop on a dick train. Doesn't mean I'm all for Allen's actions. The way he acts in front of guests/family is very fucking psychotic. The way he treated Ellie doesn't make him any better. He was border line abusing her with his grabbing. You both need help. Him with abuse and you with not being faithful. (Regardless if this is Vic I just wanted to get it out there).

            [–]elegiggitty 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (10子コメント)

            i am glad you answered this girl. it looked like she had a mean girl vendetta. however, that being said, what you said still held some truth. he emotionally abuses you and i hope you don't continue to sweep that under the rug. if you don't talk about it on stream, fine. but you both still need third party help.

            a lot of us are ex viewers and subs and care about you guys but we gave up on supporting because you deny too much obvious stuff. basically lying to our faces

            [–]twitchisacesspool 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (9子コメント)

            The account was made less than an hour ago. I asked the poster to post in Twitch chat or post on their only confirmed account seriousgamingtv but hasn't yet. The only reason I'm still waiting to see if this is really her is right after she got done posting, quite a few people were banned in chat.

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              [–]twitchisacesspool 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Well it's pretty terrible fucking damage control if it is. "I wasn't really raped, I was drunk and exaggerating" type of message will make this far worse. False rape accusations is a quick way to piss a lot of people off.

              They keep ignoring the request for SG to talk in chat or on their actual Reddit account so I'm just going to dismiss it as a troll until they get on stream.

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                [–]twitchisacesspool 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                I'm really surprised there hasn't been a single tweet or mention of anything yet. Not even a casual mention in chat that they can't stream or they're packing up to leave. I think they'll try to brush it off and hope it goes away. That's the SG way of handling things. Oh and to ban anyone in chat who mentions it because after all this time, Vic still doesn't get that trying to silence everyone who outs you doesn't work.

                Their chat isn't the only outlet anymore. Even this place isn't the only outlet. Keep banning people Vic, it's just making it worse.

                [–]SeriousVic -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                I haven't done any banning this morning. We are packing to leave the mountain this morning.

                [–]twitchisacesspool 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                We

                Yeah, we're going to need proof that it's you. Anyone can make an account. Say something in your chat. You don't have to mention anything that's going on, it can be something simple like 'hey guys, we're packing up and getting ready to drive home' or something. Even a small update.

                [–]DocNoItAll 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Try again from your main account (https://www.reddit.com/user/seriousgamingtv) with a permalink back to: https://www.reddit.com/r/serious_gaming/comments/624ugy/hi_vicki/dfk6wgw/

                [–]desu45 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                vic you don't have to justify someones rape on you if someone did this to you. You were drunk and someone took advantage of you.

                [–]SeriousVic -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                I am not trying to justify anything. What I said was wrong and hurtful. At times I find it hard to communicate with Alan, so I would speak to my friend to vent and unfairly bash him because I was either pissed off or angry. This was my way of indirectly hurting Alan. This isn't a way I should have been dealing with our issues, but it's what I had done. Unfortunately I hurt more people in this process.

                [–]seriousl0l 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                If this is really Vic (and it might be, she does the same thing in chat where Alan is mean to her and she ends up apologizing somehow), stop fooling yourself. You're letting Alan blatantly abuse you and then you're so brainwashed by him that you're apologizing. We all see it everyday that you guys stream, you both have an awful relationship, stop trying to convince yourself it's not

                [–]Suzzme 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You lie about a lot of shit to make your life seem different, think that was Mike's whole intention. Stop trying to make your life seem more flattering than it is and quit trying to play victim with the lies.

                [–]DocNoItAll 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                So you lied or didn't lie, stop it the with argument in semantics. Did you lie or not?

                [–]RoDoSu 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                She's probably lying now. You never know with this delusional cunt.

                I was ashamed about what had happened so I said the things that I didn't​ mean in order to try and justify it to myself.

                I am not trying to justify anything.

                [–]JaxTeller718Dumbass -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Best part about this is watching everyone with an iq of 3 who really believe this is her.

                Way to go guys, you are proving Alan right.

                [–]Skrilla600 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                anyone have a mirror for that imgur

                [–]PatientWalt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                This is as juicy as it gets, but you people need something else in your lives to care about.

                I understand they are public figures by choice but this is borderline creepy. This behaviour is not healthy, but neither is theirs.
                Calling rape when cheating is incredibly shitty, but this is their problem. They don't owe you shit. Even if you donated, subbed and contributed to their unhealthy lifestyle.

                [–]Oakshot -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                That friend is a complete asshole. When someone comes to you about systematic abuse, you're certainly going to get emotional, but making it all about you and calling the cops on a situation like that is pure selfishness. Of course by now you're probably going to jump on me for promoting abuse, I'm not, I'm also taking the text as truth because I don't know anything else, but in this context, the context of abusive relationships where someone can be raped and not have any resources or recourse for leaving immediately, you absolutely risk escalating a situation to further violence by involving the police because it's not like they can do anything to take the person out of that situation. They'll both be right back together and they might not even leave as there's no evidence of anything in emotionally abusive relationships for the police who randomly show up because some third party called them about some crazy thing that may or may not have happened days or weeks ago. There has to be an organic plan from the person themselves or with the help of friends and/or a counselor or shelter that is foolproof and takes the person out of the situation without the other being aware. This isn't even considering any aspect of compassion for the other party if they truly are suicidal. Looking down on victims of abuse like they're simply stupid and should have left or called the cops themselves is terribly naive, selfish, and wholly egotistical.

                [–]SeriousGaslighting 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                No, Victoria knowingly triggered sympathy and attention from a rape victim by telling them she herself was raped. If you trigger a victim's PTSD, how they cope with your manipulation isn't something that should be scorned.

                [–]Oakshot -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                Oh, right, victim blaming is ok so long as you make sure to let everyone know you're a victim of a completely unrelated event. That's not a red flag of abuse at all.

                [–]seriousl0l 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                How is she a victim? She lied about being raped.

                [–]SeriousGaslighting 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                You might be missing the point that Victoria was knowingly exploiting a rape victim. She made that person relive possibly the worst moments of their life by deliberately lying to them so that Victoria could feel better about her own BS drama.

                [–]Oakshot -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                Right, because you are the omnipotent reddit user, all knowing, all seeing, able to discern the subtle truths of this relationship yet take everything everyone says at face value and repeat it here as gospel.

                [–]SeriousGaslighting 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                No I was there when Victoria admitted it. Why else do you think the internet is on fire?

                [–]SeriousGaslighting 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                We all read the logs and chat then Victoria explained everything tried to own up to it then dismissed everything with this.

                [–]Oakshot -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Oh yes, I've been seeing it for the past week, all over my facebook, and the news, the entire internet is alight over one insignificant instance of domestic violence, I'm sure it will be on arstechnica shortly.

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