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As MGTOW, are you a misogynist? (self.MGTOW)

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Apparently the opposite of a blue pill guy is not a red pill guy that still values women/pussy but instead it's a misogynist. Misogyny is a word that was twisted by feminists and blue pilled white knights to shame men that won't worship women. There's no middle ground anymore... it's either their way or the misogyny way.

I always saw Misogyny as hate against women. As a MGTOW, I never got to experience the red pill rage and I don't hate women for what they do because I know that's their nature. I don't even hate the women that betrayed my trust and love. But no matter how much I don't hate women, I'm still a misogynist and all MGTOWs are.

According to new definitions, a Misogynist is a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women. It can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.

Misogyny actually comes from ancient Greek(misogunia) and has a few eye opening stories behind it.

Aristotle contended that women exist as natural deformities or imperfect males.

In Greek mythology according to Hesiod, the human race had already experienced a peaceful, autonomous existence as a companion to the gods before the creation of women. (Even the gods are misogynists, how dare they create the man first?)

When Prometheus decides to steal the secret of fire from the gods, Zeus becomes infuriated and decides to punish humankind with an "evil thing for their delight". This "evil thing" is Pandora, the first woman, who carried a jar (usually described—incorrectly—as a box) which she was told to never open.

Epimetheus (the blue pilled brother of Prometheus) is overwhelmed by her beauty, disregards Prometheus' warnings about her, and marries her. Pandora cannot resist peeking into the jar, and by opening it she unleashes into the world all evil; labour, sickness, old age, and death.

If women have the stupid right to be feminists we have the right to be proud misogynists.

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[–]the-capitan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

depends on which definition you use.

if you mean "hate women", no, most of us are not. most people in the west are egalitarians... believing that everyone should have equal opportunities regardless of biological bullshit. mgtows have just done the algebra that says marriage data clearly shows divorce law is wildly misandrist, there's no reason for men to play along, and no legitimate reason to support the feminist imperative. not supporting the feminist imperative is not the same as hating women.

if you mean the progressive/SJW/feminist definition, where a man must be subservient and a slave to female interests, paying higher in taxes to support free shit for women, then yes, we're all shitlord misogynists.

[–]Whiskeybandit67 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hating only hurts the hater.

[–]pwrgfr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It can be manifested in numerous ways, including having a penis, social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.

Femi-fix that oddly did not make it into MW & OED... yet.

[–]chester444 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find this to be a very interesting question. I admittedly struggle with this somewhat myself. If I'm honest with myself, then yes, at various points in my own personal journey (throughout my divorce proceedings, all the bullshit my ex wife has leveled at me and continues to level at me, etc), I've been a misogynist. Maybe not a proud one, but certainly not an apologetic one, either.

However, to a more long-term view of the situation, it is not healthy for me to harbor vengeance or hate in my soul for another person or group of people, as it only brings me down to their level. I know this sounds trite and cliche, like a bunch of happy horseshit, and I agree with that assessment. I also know that I've made several posts on this sub in anger, with my disgust and disdain for the female gender on full display. But at the end of the day, there is some truth to it (that the act of hating others is not healthy, and only serves to bring harm to yourself), at some level.

I sometimes find it useful to look at the situation like this. Do you hate alligators for being alligators? Do you hate sharks for being sharks? Do you hate rattlesnakes for being rattlesnakes? Of course not. You do not fault the natural predators of the animal kingdom for doing what comes naturally, according to their very purpose they were endowed with by their creator (if you believe in that). By the way, I'm not trying to be funny or cute here at all. I genuinely believe in the AWALT heuristic, and I genuinely believe that MGTOW saves lives.

Anyways. In a similar way, after the dust has settled, and after I have gotten over whatever anger I feel toward my ex (or my anger towards women in general) for whatever the latest shit tests or other assfuckery is that she is dumping on me, I try (emphasis: TRY) to keep this in mind. Some days its easier than others.

That is, I try to remember that women are not inherently evil by their nature, but rather it is a combination of their nature, along with the privileges that western society has conferred upon them (mostly thru the power of the state, and other similarly authoritative and powerful institutions), that makes their behavior so detestable and abhorrent, in the grand scheme.

I'm still very early in the process. Some days its more challenging than other days. I still have alot of anger and hatred towards women for the level of entitlement and all the other shit they have, courtesy of feminism and all the rest of that. But its a gradual learning process, learning and internalizing the overall MGTOW philosophy, and adapting to the reality of dealing with the shittiness of this world as we know it.

It is very painful, in my opinion, to have to go against your very biological and cultural imperative to partner with women in pursuit of family and happiness and all the rest of that. I don't know. I'm a work in progress, and I'm learning more and more each day.

[–]aanarchist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

nope i love women, and being red pill aware i have to understand and accept that it's in a woman's best interest to submit to me, and if she submits to the government instead and wants the man to be under her control that she is a slave of the system and is ultimately poison.