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[–]Disgruntled_AF_EOD 893 ポイント894 ポイント  (60子コメント)

For the love of god, put the fresh basil on AFTER it comes out of the oven.

[–]sanslimites 165 ポイント166 ポイント  (23子コメント)

Rubbing it with olive oil would help it fry in the oven rather than burn

[–]Brody_South_Dakotee 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (22子コメント)

It loses its flavor at temperatures that high.

[–]infinitude 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Roast sage and your neighbors will call the cops on you lol

[–]TheInternetCat 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not worried, I live in a state where recreational sage is legal.

[–]cwfutureboy 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Or put a pinch of it in your boot and all day long a spicy scent is your reward.

[–]meinthebox 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (32子コメント)

Everyone's worried about the basil but no one noticed that they used a liquid measuring cup for the flour.

[–]TheRealBaseborn 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (23子コメント)

..and put the sugar directly in the flour instead of with the yeast mixture.

[–]Shaggaa 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (19子コメント)

So the sugar goes with the yeast, not flower? I wanted to try to make this pizza but know little about baking.

[–]throwawaywahwahwah 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The sugar feeds the yeast!

[–]Shaggaa 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's what I always thought. But without being told I would have done it wrong. I don't bake enough to think of things like that. I would also most likely be making it while high. Lack of knowledge and weed... no way in hell would I catch it.

[–]TheRealBaseborn 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Yes, sugar is put in with the yeast to quicken the process. Try honey instead of sugar. It's even better flavor, imo.

[–]Shaggaa 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (9子コメント)

That sounds awesome. Honey is my favorite food.

[–]TheRealBaseborn 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I would also recommend lightly brushing olive oil onto your pan before placing the dough to prevent sticking. It will also help the crust cook nicely.

[–]Shaggaa 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

How about corn meal? I heard that gives it a nice bottom.

[–]your_login_here 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

only Brazilian corn meal

[–]Oafus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Moroccan corn meal

[–]TheRealBaseborn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Corn meal is typically used with a stone. I wouldn't use it with a pan.

[–]Killerina 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cornmeal works great with a pan. We also use it regularly to line the bottom of an iron skillet when we make deep dish pizza.

[–]what_comes_after_q 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They should be interchangeable. It is there to feed the yeast. If you have any extra sweetness left over, you added too much sugar or didn't give the yeast enough time to set up.

[–]murmandamos 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I assume there's some minor content of non-sugar that could result in a slight variation anyway, maybe. Maybe not.

[–]PopsicleJesus 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing wrong with that if you have hours to set up the dough. the yeast will alcoholize the sugar inside the dough and create air pockets, making the dough lighter and more bread-y. There are bigger and worse problems with this pizza than the way they mixed the yeast.

[–]King_Wataba 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

... and didn't warm the water up before adding the yeast

[–]Berengal 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not too bad, you're ultimately going by feel when mixing the dough anyway.

[–]dargodl 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What's wrong with that?

[–]meinthebox 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can't flatten the flour so your measurement is off. It can lead to it being over 20% Ideally you would go by weight with flower.

[–]grarghll 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Weight is ideal, but most recipes are built with spooning the flour into the cup for measurement. Packing the flour is almost always wrong.

[–]tmaffin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait - real question here.

There are different "cup" sizes for liquid vs not liquid?

[–]meinthebox 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No but you can't level the flour in a liquid measuring cup which is inconsistent. Dry measuring cups can be off also because flour can be packed but it is better.

Ideally you should weigh flour.

[–]bobo_le_chimp 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

its all about the BAKED basil. bro.

[–]Kalkaline 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only that, prep the pizza on the peel. It's way easier to slide a raw pizza off the peel than it is to slide it on to the peel.

[–]Elijahs-Wood 176 ポイント177 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The comments in /r/gifrecipes are either super supportive or ruthless, there is no in between haha

[–]DeweyBeatTruman 102 ポイント103 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's my favorite part. I'll watch a gif and be like "that looks pretty good, I might try that." Then I'll check the comments and discover how the recipe is actually the worst food that's ever been produced and OP is an affront to proper cuisine.

[–]DKong27 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like a whole extra level of enjoyment. Try to spot what the comments are going to complain about. :D

[–]TheRealBaseborn 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's certainly not the worst ever, but as someone who has made pizza for over a decade, living in the "pizza belt", this is pretty subpar and looks like it was made by a rookie.

[–]SoggyMcmufffinns 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Although, I don't take it that serious really, I do feel like if you are going to make an instructional video on how to do something know what you're doing. If you are messing up on simple things I'd wait before you try to show someone else. It's like hiring a trainer that has only bench pressed once in his life and has questionable form. No thanks!

[–]SkollFenrirson 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll take your word in there being supportive comments.

[–]Ventrik 524 ポイント525 ポイント  (51子コメント)

Chef here neat trick for better, less doughy pizza.

Put the pie without topping in the oven for a few, the dough will bubble up and cook. You want to get a nice crust but a little under cooked. Pretty much all pizza toppings are already cooked or just need to be heated up or melted. By piling the toppings on the dough you protect it, which is why you end up with gummy dough and a near-burnt bottom side.

[–]SparklingGenitals 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Par cooking the dough before the toppings go on is how I do it, too. It's been the best way to get a crispy bottom crust without having an over-cooked pizza. Plus the dough in the middle gets a chance to rise instead of being flattened by the toppings right away.

Slightly cooking just the dough is also a good way to prepare it to go in the freezer.

[–]smileyfrown 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Is their a number of minutes for slightly cooking, or based on the color?

[–]jmb052 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've done it with fresh dough before. I cook it to where the dough isn't sticky anymore in the middle, on top. At that point, it's how you like the dough. I leave it in a few extra minutes just to make sure it'll cook all the way through, but it's all personal preference. Pull it, add toppings, then throw it back in to finish to your likings.

[–]kakuna 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Time will vary greatly with temp. I just look for it to start getting a light golden brown.

If you cook your pizza at 500, it'll only be a few minutes.

[–]godfetish 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The idea is to cook it without it getting any color...they say par, I called it tempering, whichever way you think about it, you just want to try to cook the top so the soggy stuff won't stop it from cooking. I would do this when someone ordered extra sauce or double mushroom or anything that would make gum instead of crust.

[–]niggalodean 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Couldn't you just have a thinner crust and knead the dough a little better, instead of going through a process of cooking without toppings first then taking it out and putting it back in, if you just docked the dough it would have a less bubbly surface and allow to cook more evenly?

[–]darrenphillipjones 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You usually need higher than 550 to make it taste 'restaurant' good with what you are describing.

The precooking of the dough is best for lower temps. Regardless of the thickness.

I even, when doing cast iron pizzas, cook the dough by itself on the range for about 30 seconds on each side before topping. It helps to seal the dough from the sauce.

[–]ImportantOpinions 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like my dough absorbing the sauce so both sides seems counterproductive to me.

[–]niggalodean 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm picking up what your putting down, I guess I was been spoiled with an industrial grade oven at the pizzeria I used to work at. For good dough what's your opinion on genesis batches I find for some reason when you get that great batch of dough having a genesis batch really recreates that great flavor of that perfect dough, though you're kinda limited from home so it makes sense to cook your dough a little.

[–]Svelemoe 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every time I've made dough from scratch, thin as paper or thick as a mouse mat, it comes out less done than I want unless I pre cook the dough a bit. You just need a hot pizza stone or a brick oven to make it good without burning the toppings.

[–]IceNein 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In addition to what others have said, sometimes people like more crust.

[–]melkorkerin 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I make pizza like this all the time, never had gummy or burnt dough.

Edit - I stretch/roll the dough out thinner. I didn't see how thick they left the dough on first watch.

[–]what_comes_after_q 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

this is a very fast and simple recipe. They also don't kneed the dough, so they don't really work the gluten, so they can't really stretch it like normal pizza dough you would see at a pizza place. That will have more of an impact on how gummy it is.

[–]whisker_mistytits 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep. And 1 day of advanced planning would fix the issue.

Good pizza in a pseudo-Neo/NY style is pretty much impossible to pull off if you decide at lunch time that you want it for supper that same day.

If, on the other hand, you take 20 minutes or so to put the dough together the afternoon before, and let it cold ferment in the fridge for 24 hours, your next day's supper will be awesome.

The difference that time in the fridge makes to both gluten and flavor development is amazing.

[–]hermeslyre 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I Always make a couple balls, then eat them over 2 or 3 nights with longer ferment times. The ones in the fridge longest are best.

[–]cyberslick188 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

While this works, it's absolutely a sign of bad dough.

There are no actual pizza makers who would do this. It'd be like recommending to microwave a steak for a few minutes to make sure it's mostly cooked and then finishing it on a grill. Sure it might work, but you should be able to do it without that nonsense.

Good, crunchy and chewy dough really only gets there with extreme heat and short cooking times. A real pizzeria only has that pizza in the oven for a few minutes.

Your average oven can get to 500-550 degrees which is more than enough to have a decent crust. Check out /r/pizza and you'll see how easy a great dough is.

[–]Svelemoe 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A real pizzeria doesn't have a normal oven that struggles to reach 450 degrees.

[–]hermeslyre 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I cook these pizzas in my wimpy 500 electric oven. No par cooking the dough beforehand. Don't think it's necessary either.

http://i.imgur.com/2kejH71.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FpQgkLy.jpg

I've cut the self clean lock on my oven too and made pizzas in under 2 minutes, ~900f ceiling temp. They're better but not by a whole bunch. Dont really do those anymore, because the ones above are great.

[–]capincus 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I worked at a pizza place in NJ that was voted top 5 in the state, this is how they did their Sicilian pizzas but with a very light brushing of sauce. Then they'd stick those pre-cooked crusts in cold storage. It's also pretty ridiculous to compare the necessities of a standard household oven to what an actual pizza maker can do under ideal conditions with the right tools.

[–]--JG-- 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

About your analogy, isn't sous vide then sear an acceptable method for cooking steak? The microwave bit seems thrown in to fallaciously support your point.

[–]_Rookwood_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Chef here neat trick for better, less doughy pizza.

Put the pie without topping in the oven for a few, the dough will bubble up and cook. You want to get a nice crust but a little under cooked. Pretty much all pizza toppings are already cooked or just need to be heated up or melted. By piling the toppings on the dough you protect it, which is why you end up with gummy dough and a near-burnt bottom side.

Thanks for this. I've consistently had this problem where the layer of dough just below the toppings, even if it's 2 milimetres is just not properly cooked and whilst most poeple don't notice it and gobble the pizza; I see it and it annoys me because i'm on the cusp of a perfect pizza base.

Will try this in the future.

[–]hackel 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Less doughy? Why would anyone ever want that?

[–]carabbaggio10 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're going for a more wood fired oven texture.

[–]BABarracus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never had that issue

[–]Akedi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

how long would you cook it for before adding the toppings?

[–]Ventrik 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It comes down to personal preference. I like my pizza to be very flat and crispy. So I typically use a very hot oven, roughly takes 10 minutes for me in total. 3-5 on the pie and then load my toppings and broil for another few minutes until the cheese is melted or to how ever I want it.

The thicker you lick your pizza the lower the temp and longer you should bake it for. But you are going for the top and bottom to form a baked crust so your sauce and toppings of choice aren't being placed onto raw dough.

[–]Akedi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awesome, will definitely try this. Thanks for the reply!

[–]Cheewy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We all do it that way, but OP is using a Brick oven, and in big ones you can get away with putting the pie and ingredients at the same time without undercooking the dough

[–]cyberbullet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We make pizza every monday in my house. This is so true. We pre bake the crust and then add the toppings until the cheese is melted. Makes it crisp and yummy

[–]DAVENP0RT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My sister and brother-in-law make great grilled pizza with this process. She bakes it in the oven for a few minutes and then hands it off to him to top and throw on the grill. Like you said, it keeps the middle from becoming a gooey mess, but it also makes it hold up in the grill a whole lot better.

[–]OftenSarcastic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just a random person who enjoys making pizza at home, but I don't really have a problem with undercooked dough.

A nicely preheated baking sheet and limiting moisture containing toppings (sauce, cheese or fatty meats) is usually enough to get a well cooked and crispy dough.

Also letting it rest for 5-10 minutes before cutting stops fats from running down and making it soggy before you're ready to eat, and you avoid burning your face off with molten cheese.

[–]jtn19120 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

+1! I prebake for about 4 min

[–]Fandechichoune 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, fuck you basil.

[–]I_AmOutOfUserNames 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I started laughing so hard because the shitty pizza was so unexpected. Like the window shot of the oven looked appetizing then BAM! Burnt vomit.

[–]theBigDaddio 158 ポイント159 ポイント  (35子コメント)

This will be flavorless crappy dough. Go check /r/pizza if you want to know how to make a decent, often better than carry out pizza.

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[–]elboydo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I just use the standard 00 flour, salt, warm water, yeast.

Tried to deal with the intense insanity of stuff like this for papa johns style dough https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=6758.0

but it went way over my head.

The standard seemingly original recipe always works best for me and is just so simple, though i usually let it cold rise for a couple of days to develop.

edit: (100% 00 flour, ~2% salt, 60% water (i may increase this next time to around 65%), and 0.2-0.3% yeast) It's probably not the best, but it seems to be the best approximation of the recipes I see, with 500g of 00 flour, you can make about 4 200g doughballs, which does me as a single person fine for most of the week.

edit2:

here's a good method of getting the effect of a wood burning oven in a normal oven (by good i mean it is a good attempt compared to the other alternatives in a normal house)

Some prefer to invert this with the grill first but it all depends on the person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4D0xh8G9oA

PErsonally i still use the pizza stone, which may be dum, but the tilting in the oven below the grill trick does work really nicely.

[–]theBigDaddio 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea even overnight makes the dough so much better.

[–]elboydo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely.

I always give it either 2 hours to rise before splitting it, or 6-8 if i feel like it, then at least a night before using it.

The difference really is night and day, it totally changed my pizza making game and made me see how many recipes i added shit to my dough for just to make up for me not letting it develop

[–]hermeslyre 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've read 00 flour is best in high heat, at typical wimpy home oven temperatures it doesn't excel. I just stick to AP or bread flour if I'm feeling fancy.

Though i did cut the self cleaning mode lock on the oven door and that gets the oven to like 900f which is nice, but I haven't made a pizza at those temps in a couple years.

I also like my dough with sugars and oil in them and so does the family. They tell me it tastes better. This is the one I've used for a couple years.

https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=13442.0

[–]hitlama 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not just flavorless, but do you see how he can't really stretch the dough thin at all, resulting in small, malformed crusts? For 4 cups of flour you should easily be able to make 2 14+ inch pies, but this guy can't because his dough isn't elastic enough. Mixing to combine and letting rest for 4 hours simply doesn't develop enough gluten to stretch the dough thin. This recipe is bad and the creator should feel bad.

[–]JLDIII 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

So is the answer to let it rest longer, say overnight?

[–]hitlama 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much, yeah. I also knead it in a stand mixer for a few minutes before shaping it into a ball, oiling it, and letting it rise at least overnight in the fridge. You can go as many as 3 days for better structure and flavor. King Arthur bread flour has a high protein content, allowing the formation of extra gluten for super stretchy dough.

About 45 minutes before I'm ready to make pizzas, I take the large dough ball out of the fridge and split it into equal pizza-sized portions, weighing them on a digital food scale for added precision. I then shape those portions (which will still be chilly and not ready to roll out) into seamless dough balls before placing them on an oiled pan to proof and hitting them with some cooking spray to prevent them from drying out and forming a skin. Once the dough warms up to near room temperature, it'll spread out and have a bunch of bubbles in it. I dust it with flour and carefully move it to a well-floured surface to stretch it.

I use primarily use Laura's method to stretch dough. I think she's a terrible a chef and her food is uninspiring, but she's a fucking G when it comes to stretching pizza dough. She's so fast it's insane. Mad respect.

[–]Bongjum 113 ポイント114 ポイント  (5子コメント)

For the love of god, please knead the dough thoroughly after the 20 minute resting phase. This dough has large lumps in it, and probably terrible gluten development as well. Always knead your dough for at least five minutes to get it nice and smooth.

[–]silencesc 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was about to ask if this would produce good dough, but you answered the question. I did a pizza party a few months ago and made a few dozen crusts worth of dough, and it took like 5 hours. If I could have done this instead and not have kneaded for 15 minutes or so before resting it, would have saved a ton of time

This would be pretty bready dough I think, which people do like, but you won't get the cracker thin, fast cooking pizza you'd want if you were in the mood for something more european.

[–]chaoticneutral 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can actually substitute a more watery dough and more rest time and knead less. Look up no-knead bread.

[–]Bongjum 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this dough would not be bready at all, it would be crusty and tough. I know this from a year of making pizza myself.

A bready crust is the best crust in my opinion, as the outside is nice and crispy, but not too tough because the inside is nice and soft. It gives a great flavor as well. Thin crust pizza's taste like crackers.

[–]grantji- 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I don't even know where to start ....

the basil is burnt, the dough has to be kneaded at least a few minutes, the sauce looks really bland, ...

[–]ohhowexciting 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sauce looked kind of watery too.

[–]NeverBenCurious 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And they made a gallon to use 1 spoonful

[–]dc_dupree 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I like sauce like this. Really simple and fresh tasting, especially if you use high quality tomatoes. Overly cooked, pasty, thyme-choked pizza sauce you get in jars is gross to me.

[–]elboydo 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

if you are using san marzano, then you don't really need too much more in your sauce, they are tasty as hell and brilliant, keep it simple. too many people over complicate their recipes to enhance the flavour and it becomes a bit like too many cooks.

[–]Juggernauticall 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great. Now I've got this song stuck in my head again...

https://youtu.be/QrGrOK8oZG8

[–]ImportantOpinions 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depends on how garlicky the cloves were for me.

[–]wilc8650 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That burnt basil though. I bet that taste terrible.

[–]Telranis 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As someone who has been paid to make pizzas for 5+ years... this looks disgusting.

[–]rocketbra 197 ポイント198 ポイント  (49子コメント)

Those pizzas do not look appetizing...

[–]elboydo 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (19子コメント)

here's how they should look, with a proper recipe

https://youtu.be/vEZjs2TqB9o

brick oven mind, so that's the hardest bit to replicate, the OP just fucked up the initial kneading and the shaping of the dough.

[–]rocketbra 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (14子コメント)

That looks soo much better

[–]elboydo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (13子コメント)

the beauty of the wood burning oven.

Damn the dude does a good recipe, I just wish i could get the wood burning oven effect (been trying some attempts, like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4D0xh8G9oA ), I mean a pizza stone and grill comes close, but still miles off.

Since I started to care about my pizza game, i swear one of my goals in life is to just be able to get a house with one of those ovens somewhere.

[–]jhchawk 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I'm in the same boat as you.

The Uuni (http://uuni.net/) has been gaining popularity recently, it's a portable wood-fired oven. Turns out fantastic looking pizza.

If you're just working with a home oven, I highly recommend a pizza steel instead of pizza stone. You can buy one online, or DIY through a local metal supplier for much cheaper. Table below is from here

Material Volumetric Heat Capacity (j/cm3) Thermal Conductivity (W/mK)
Stone 0.48 1.5
Steel 3.94 54

[–]elboydo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I did start to hear about that lately, where a pizza stone is good, but the only benefit is that it holds in heat better, whilst a steel is best at transferring heat.

Also it's probably easier to clean.

So what are the actual differences between a stone and steel beyond heat transfer? with regards to sticking, care, and cleaning?

[–]jhchawk 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No, if you look at the chart I posted you'll see that the steel is better on both counts. 800% better at holding heat (heat capacity) and 3600% higher heat transfer (thermal conductivity).

Much easier to clean, no risk of breaking. The only negatives are price, and weight (they're heavy).

[–]klxz79 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Agreeing with /u/jhchawk you need to get a pizza steel. actually get two! I have a 1/4in thick steel and a 3/8in thick steel. I set my oven to 500F put one on the top rack and one on the bottom rack. About Halfway through the cooking process I move the pizza from the top steel to the bottom steel since the top one has been cooled by the pizza, it'll give a better crust.

I highly highly recommend picking up the Pizza Bible book. It's uppped my pizza game 1000%! Here's a video of the author Tony Gemignani at Google he shows you how to make the "master dough" recipe that he uses in a lot of his pizzas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdP3MmLGNy8

[–]badabinge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

When buying a pizza steel, do you recommend a certain thickness? I just started looking them up online, and there's huge price differences.

[–]what_comes_after_q 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

OP did a no knead recipe. Some people don't like kneading bread. This means you don't really work the gluten as much, so you can't really stretch it like regular pizza dough.

[–]elboydo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I get that the kneading bit takes a bit of strength, doesn't feel nice as you spend a good amount of time with that horrible watery dough feeling before it turns out nice, and most importantly takes time.

but it just always feels like, you are going to leave it for a few hours anyway, why not take that extra 30 mins to make it a bit better? or maybe it's just the feeling or being in a rush.

I dunno, just feels like rushing when taking a shit then spending the next half hour flicking through to page 20 of r/all before wiping

[–]hermeslyre 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't like kneading. I've never foregone the step though, I just bought a cheap bread maker and let that knead for me.

Plus lazy bread when I'm feeling lazy. Which is all the time.

[–]what_comes_after_q 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I totally agree. I have never had really nice airy bread without kneading. I'm actually making bread right now, waiting on my bulk rise. Even if you don't like doing it by hand, you can get a stand mixer to help you out for like 40 bucks on amazon, and you can mix the hell out of bread even better than you can by hand.

[–]wikk3d 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's napolatana style pizza. Usually pizza like this is done in a wood fired oven which is usually around 700-800 degrees Fahrenheit. It's a very popular style up here in the North eastern state (Connecticut especially). It produces a char on the crust which also prevents it from getting soggy in the middle like New York style pizza.

[–]Rominiust 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, when I saw that first pizza I was wondering if it wasn't some kinda joke. That looks like something you'd be insulted with if someone made that for you.

[–]jutct 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You must live somewhere that only has Dominos or Papa John's or something. This is pretty close to what real pizza is. And by that I mean I live close to the place that gets the #1 rated pizza in the US, year after year. Pepe's in New Haven. You need to try New Haven pizza.

[–]SparklingGenitals 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know if I'd call it "real" pizza. It's just a more traditional style.

[–]Killzark 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously. That's the worst looking burnt pizza I've ever seen.

[–]ProfessorChaos5049 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like to prepare my pizzas on a well floured or corn meal wood pizza peel. Then slide it on to the stone that's on my grill or on my oven. Easier then trying to transfer a prepared pizza from table to peel to oven.

[–]Khanthulhu 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pro-tip. Flour and construct the pizza directly on the peel. Saves you from having to transfer it.

[–]SomanydynamoS 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just don't take too long or it will stick to the peel even though you dusted it.

[–]Khanthulhu 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely. You might want to shake the peel every now and then to prevent sticking.

[–]Wakagoshi 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Protip: put at least one brick inside the oven for authentic brick oven pizza.

[–]007meow 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Stupid question about pizza stones:

So you preheat the oven with the stone in it. Do you place the pizza on the stone or on that wooden tray thing that's in this gif?

[–]displaced1 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yes, you want to put the pizza stone in the oven and let it heat up, takes a while, I leave mine in for 45 min to an hour normally.

Edit

The wooden thing is called a pizza peel. It used to transport to oven / from oven.

[–]elboydo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've heard that it may also shatter if you put it in a preheated oven, which is likely to be even worse for your pizza.

[–]ImportantOpinions 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fast temperature changes are bad for pizza stones.

[–]elboydo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, I get worried just opening my oven door and moving it about during winter (my flat gets colder than a nuns glare, and it's the usual logic of i can wrap up warm and save money).

nothing could possibly ruin dinner more than your pizza stone exploding on you. not really exploding just breaking

[–]grarghll 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And any kind of stoneware in general, of course.

[–]BottledUp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And if you want to be really pro, you use a baking steel. Pretty awesome. It's just an overpriced, super heavy steel sheet, but it produced the best pizza I ever made.

[–]chitstain 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you're using a pizza peel, make sure to flour the surface really well, or your pizza will stick to it and you will hate life. A combination of flour and cornmeal works especially well, but flour is a must.

[–]easyjet 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I use fine semolina (is that cornmeal in the US? Not sure)

[–]chitstain 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Semolina is still wheat, but I see that used, as well. As far as I know, for this purpose, it's interchangeable with cornmeal.

[–]his_eminence 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to use flour but it kept burning on my pizza stone and my kids would make fun of me when I set of the smoke detector. I just use parchment paper now. Nonstick plus the added benefit of not getting my peel or stone dirty.

[–]theBigDaddio 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]youtubefactsbot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How to make authentic Neapolitan pizza at home [11:05]

In this video I will outline the entire process, ingredients, recipes and techniques that I use to make authentic Neapolitan pizza at home.

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[–]Tier1Gear 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sauce is weak, some pepper and oregano at least

[–]jart1987 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Too much crust, uneven, cheese distribution is bad. 2/5

[–]Frenchy1776 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

it's not uncommon for authentic pizza to be unevenly shaped, but I agree with the rest! also, I shuddered at the poor burnt basil :/

[–]exhume19 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (35子コメント)

No sugar in the dough, no basil in the oven (pizza cooks it plenty after coming out of a super fucking hot oven)

[–]elboydo 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

no basil in the oven (pizza cooks it plenty after coming out of a super fucking hot oven)

interesting that one, I tried to follow italian recipes and guides on it, where they always put the basil on the pizza when cooking, to release the flavours into the dough or something whilst cooking, otherwise you just get the basil itself and not the oils.

[–]squireflea 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like crap. Sorry

[–]numeraire 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sugar in the dough? Nope. Put the sugar in with the yeast in order to activate it, instead. Also, don't put in oil with the yeast right away. Yeast does not like fat so much.

[–]lobsterwithcrabs 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the pizzas look like shit

[–]SpiderConduit 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

So it's just a normal pizza recipe?

[–]jangle_bo_jingles 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope - it's a really shitty pizza dough recipe

[–]chunky1337 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sweet Christmas​ can you please start your yeast with the sugar???

[–]Gen_Jack_Oneill 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your dough is going to be very inconsistent without using a scale.

And the flavor of the dough will benefit immensely from doing an overnight proof in the refrigerator.

[–]impudentllama[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Original Tasty video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cqPCGGx58A

 

 

Brick Oven-Style Pizza

Servings: 4

 

INGREDIENTS

4 cups bread flour

2½ tablespoons kosher salt

1 tablespoon sugar

2 cups warm water

1½ teaspoons active dry yeast

3 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil

1 28-ounce can whole San Marzano or other good quality tomatoes

4 whole cloves garlic

1 pound of fresh mozzarella, sliced ½-inch thick

2 cups fresh basil

 

PREPARATION

  1. In a large bowl, combine flour, 1½ tablespoons salt, and sugar.
  2. In a medium bowl, combine water, yeast, and 1 tablespoon of olive oil. Stir well and let rest for 2 minutes.
  3. Add yeast mixture to flour mixture and combine using your hands or a stand mixer with a dough hook, at least two minutes. Let dough rest for 20 minutes, uncovered, at room temperature.
  4. On a floured work surface, separate dough into 4 even portions. Work each into a circular ball, then place the balls onto a baking sheet lined with wax paper. Cover with a damp towel and rest, refrigerated, for at least 4 hours.
  5. Preheat oven to 550°F/290°C. Place a pizza stone or large cast-iron griddle on the center rack. Heat for at least 45 minutes.
  6. In a blender or food processor, combine tomatoes, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, 1 tablespoon of salt, and garlic. Process until smooth.
  7. On a floured work surface, use your fingertips to create a ring around the outside (your crust) of one of the risen balls of dough. Using the pads of your fingers, gently flatten out the dough inside the ring.
  8. Gently lift up the dough and let it hang off your knuckles, stretching itself out with its own weight. Slowly rotate the circle of dough, continuing to let it stretch off your knuckles. Go all the way around the circle once, taking care not to let it hang too long in one place and stretch too thin.
  9. Using a large spoon, spread a thin layer of sauce across the dough, leaving room for the crust.
  10. Evenly place three slices of mozzarella on top of the sauce, then sprinkle a handful of torn basil leaves evenly over your pizza. Or top with whatever you desire: sausage, peppers, onions… just about anything can be a pizza topping!
  11. Carefully slide the pizza onto a floured sheet or pizza peel and place on top of your stone or griddle in the oven. Cook for 7 to 10 minutes, until the cheese is bubbly and the top of the crust is just beginning to blacken.
  12. Remove from oven and let cool for 3-4 minutes before slicing.

Enjoy!

[–]Xesyliad 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cups and spoons for a dough? Invest in a reasonable scale and learn to use bakers percentages, it ensures dough recipes can be faithfully reproduced around the world without inconsistencies in volume measurements (e.g. metric cup vs US cup etc).

[–]potato__potato 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why does fancy pizza always use sliced cheese? Sure use fresh cheese, but why not shred it first?

You end up with gaps using slices.

[–]DrfIesh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

because they try to copy italian/argentinian pizza where they actually use soft cheese, it just doesn't work with the kind of cheese that the op used

[–]slothboss 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man you can tell this guy doesn't give a fuck about those pizzas, they all look so shit at the end

[–]one-punch-knockout 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Price at fancy pizza joint $19

[–]kkoolook 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

“DearThoughtfulAfricanfisheagle” What a name!? https://gfycat.com/DearThoughtfulAfricanfisheagle

[–]PM_ME_BOOBPIX 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now I am hungry!

[–]Sprolicious 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man I don't know whether any food has more gatekeeping than pizza.

[–]sjvmi87 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No corn meal on the paddle? That's a paddlin'

Seriously though- I have destroyed awesome pizzas by not using cornmeal and having them stick to the paddle.

Actually- who doesn't use cornmeal and can tell me what I might be doing wrong?

[–]The_Baron87 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Flour works too. Unless you mean after it's done, then it should not be sticking.

I use to run the coal fired oven at a pizza place. Funnest job I've ever had.

[–]billypootooweet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I kneed my dough for at least ten minutes, you need to develop the gluten matrices in the dough until you can perform the window test(if the dough will stretch to translucent without immediately breaking). This is how I achieve crusty, crispy, and chewy textures in my pizza crust. Also when you let the dough rest, shape into actual dough balls instead of just lumps, for, you see, round dough makes round pizzas.

[–]Mayornayz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Brick oven without the brick oven is regular pizza

[–]brdraper 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought the same thing, but it's more the pans/etc that seem to smoke up. Oven is new.

[–]100011101011 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This recipe is stupid

[–]furious25 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never follow a baking recipe that is not done with weight measurements!

[–]hackel 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do normal people actually have ovens that can get up to 290°?

[–]melkorkerin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do; it's just a standard electric oven. That's the highest temp it goes to, but it's perfect for making pizza.

[–]Saiing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

My oven maxes out at 230 degrees C. Any advice on how to compensate?

[–]chaoticneutral 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Switch to Fahrenheit, oven goes up way higher than Celsius.

[–]1st_and_2nd_needed 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find your lack of cheese disturbing.

[–]1st_and_2nd_needed 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find your lack of cheese disturbing.

[–]millos15 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If a post from this sub shows up on r/popular, I can assume it's shit right?

Last time it was a dreadful fried rice recipe.

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[–]w4tts 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I fucking love pizza.

[–]FreddyFoFingers 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Okay unrelated to the recipe but the grammar in the title is driving me crazy. Is that the appropriate hyphenation?

[–]impudentllama[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Brick Oven Style Pizza would be more appropriate in my opinion. I used the title of the original video. But I believe they were going for "Brick Oven"-Style Pizza.

[–]FreddyFoFingers 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Makes sense. I like the quotes way of thing it.

[–]buttonforest 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Should not have watched this gif. Have a low carb pizza with a dough made of chickpea flour and greek yogurt. It's not going to be nearly as satisfying after having watched this pizza porn.