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Weekly Report back to /r/anarchism from /r/metanarchism (self.Anarchism)

hamjam5Nietzschean が 投稿 - announcement

Hey party people,

we're trying to get more participation from the main sub over in r/metanarchism to ensure that the sub we have for moderating /r/anarchism actually reflects the community in /r/anarchism. So, we're going to start doing a weekly report back thread of the active proposals and threads over there to raise awareness of that sub and encourage people to participate. If you want to participate in meta just contact the mods and request entry . To qualify you just have to:

1) be an anarchist or libertarian socialist

2) have an account greater than 3 months old

3) have more than 10 comments on /r/anarchism

4) have positive karma on /r/Anarchism

5) not be just a "shitposter"

And now for the list of active proposals that the report back will consist of: (edit, since I've been asked to include threads other than active threads, I'm including all threads from last 7 days as well -- and, again, if anyone has an issue with that or any other suggestions on how they'd like this thread to be done, please just let me know here or in meta. So, like, if you want it from the last 14 days, that's fine, just let me know. Or if you want every thread currently on the first page of the sub...that's okay too, just let me know. Whatever it is, that's totally cool, I'm open to ideas...just bring them up here or in meta.).

  • Proposal: No platform r/anarchismonline by KropotkinZombie
  • Proposal: Add a link to the latest comments in the meta sidebar by BlackFlagged
  • Idea and invitation to collaborate on doing a weekly report back on what is going on in /r/metanarchism over on /r/anarchism. by hamjam
  • Should we let Leninists into meta? by excitedllama
  • PROPOSAL: Make meta public. by I_Hate_Disco
  • Proposal: ban ramonsower by KropotkinZombie
  • Give /r/IndianCountry a spot as the subreddit of the week. by Egotisticallama
  • I have proof KropotkinZombie is banned user nowaydaddioh. More screenshots forthcoming by originalpoopinbutt
  • Why was an ancap added to meta? by BlackFlagged
  • KropotkinZombie banned for ??? by negroyverde, Transparency thread removed for ??? by hamjam - c'mon wtf by Faolinbean
  • Please unban me from r/anarchism. by clawedjird
  • Proposal: Remove u/PostNationalism modded subs from the Confed of Anarchists Subreddits list.by TheWarriorMonkey
  • The negroyverde demod proposal has passed by BlackFlagged

Couple quick notes -- I'm currently just putting active proposals in the report back (oldest to newest), but if anyone has any issues with how I am doing it, like if you want me to remove the names, list all threads over the last week and not just active proposals, or anything else, just let me know or post your concerns in meta-- I'll be more than happy to collaborate with people on these report backs so that everyone can be comfortable with them. Also, a warning: meta can get toxic sometimes. My advice, if you feel harassed, don't engage, report the comments that are making you uncomfortable.

Any questions, please let me know. And if you do end up requesting entry, please be patient while a mod gets to your request.

Thanks for your time,

and Death to America!

-----Ham Shammham

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[–]Occupier_9000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (18子コメント)

If you expect us to believe that your omission of the single biggest controversy currently going on in /r/meta, namely the refusal of the top mod to step down after being formally demodded, was simply an oversight or accident---then you are being ridiculous.

Proposal: Given /u/hamjam5's demonstrated bias regarding threads in /r/meta, someone else should be given the responsibility to make weekly reports back from /r/meta, and /u/hamjam5's no longer make announcements in any official capacity.

[–]BlackFlagged 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah, that's a huge oversight since he's the one fighting so hard to make it easier for negroyverde to refuse to stand down. We should probably talk about the whole thing here since negroy is completely ignoring the will of the community in meta.

[–]Occupier_9000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Support.

[–]KropotkinZombiePostleft Nihilist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Lol I love that negroy banned me from meta for asking them to demod themselves and now everyone is doing it.

If they won't step down, they can't really claim to be an anarchist. What did the vote end up at?

Demod yourself /u/negroyverde you bloody disgrace.

[–]BlackFlagged 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

21 people supported demodding negroy, 9 opposed it.

[–]KropotkinZombiePostleft Nihilist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Lmao that's even worse than I thought. What a farce, the community has no say in anything and you can't even talk back to the top mod or you get banned with no explanation.

[–]BlackFlagged -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He hasn't even shown his face in meta since he banned you. Won't give any kind of statement about why he hasn't stepped down.

[–]KropotkinZombiePostleft Nihilist -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If the top mod can break all the rules, drop slurs, ban people they dislike and ignore votes, then why would any civilian give two shits about following the sub's rules? What a mess.

[–]BlackFlagged -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's some talk about rebooting meta, but it won't work if negroyverde won't demod himself, no one is going to trust him to be in a position of power now.

[–]hamjam5Nietzschean[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I only put in active proposals, just as I said I would do in meta and in OP. The thread about negroyverde being removed sn't an active proposal.

If people want all threads from last 7 days I'll be happy to put those in too, just like I said in my OP. I had a meta thread inviting people to share ideas on how they would like to see this done, to collaborate with me, or to take the project on themselves if they want, why not comment there? I'll be happy to do all threads in last 7 days if people want, but your the first person who has even mentioned having anything but active proposals.

There's no "demonstrated bias", but make your proposal in meta and I'll add it to the list....since it will be an active proposal.

EDIT: I'm just trying to help things, I'll be happy to do it in whatever way people are comfortable with or to pass it to someone else the community has a consensus on and who is willing to do it. If more people want to see threads besides active proposals just say so here or in meta ,as I said in my OP, and I'll add those in too.

I mean, if I posted that thread after saying I'd only was posting active threads then I'd probably have people accusing me of trying to rally votes for it. No, I did what I said I would do exactly and which no one expressed an issue with until you right now. But, even so, as I said in my OP, I'm happy to change how I do this and invite input.

The outrage and disparagement I could do without though.

[–]BlackFlagged 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can we not turn this into a huge debate over semantics? Just don't bury the lead. People that don't go to meta need to be made aware that the top mod is acting like a dictator.

[–]hamjam5Nietzschean[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Semantics?

Look, if people say they want threads other than active proposals I'll be happy to add them in. I said so and suggested the possibility in my op and in meta. Since that seems to be the case I'll add them in in about an hour when I have a chance.

[–]Occupier_9000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I only put in active proposals, just as I said I would do in meta and in OP. The thread about negroyverde being removed sn't an active proposal.

Wait, so you aren't even trying to argue that it was an error---you are actually going to try and argue that you thought it was the appropriate course of action and consciously chose to do it this way?

If people want all threads from last 7 days I'll be happy to put those in too, just like I said in my OP.

Now you are suggesting that we include the proposals from the past week in the weekly report? Is this your new idea?

I had a meta thread inviting people to share ideas on how they would like to see this done, to collaborate with me, or to take the project on themselves if they want, why not comment there?

Well I think your attempts at rules-lawyering/projecting a false sense of objectivity on behalf of /u/negroyverde merit attention here.

I had a meta thread inviting people to share ideas on how they would like to see this done, to collaborate with me, or to take the project on themselves if they want, why not comment there? I'll be happy to do all threads in last 7 days if people want, but your the first person who has even mentioned having anything but active proposals.

So you just happened to chose a listing method that allows you to selectively include or omitt threads based on the ever-changing criteria of whether they are 'active' or not? You just didn't think it was relevant to maybe post the addendum that there is an ongoing fight/debate about the top mod stepping down? One in which you have devoted a significant amount of time to 'just clarifying' issues and concerns (most of which relate to raising objections to interpretations of rules/procedures that don't benefit /u/negroyverde)?

There's no "demonstrated bias", but make your proposal in meta and I'll add it to the list....since it will be an active proposal.

You disagree with the accusation against you that you've shown bias? You don't say...

EDIT: I'm just trying to help things, I'll be happy to do it in whatever way people are comfortable with or to pass it to someone else the community has a consensus on and who is willing to do it. If more people want to see threads besides active proposals just say so here or in meta ,as I said in my OP, and I'll add those in too. I mean, if I posted that thread after saying I'd only was posting active threads then I'd probably have people accusing me of trying to rally votes for it. No, I did what I said I would do exactly and which no one expressed an issue with until you right now. But, even so, as I said in my OP, I'm happy to change how I do this and invite input.

You are saying that you didn't include this self-evidently relevant controversy because you wanted to avoid the appearance of favoritism? Are you serious?

The outrage and disparagement I could do without though.

Then stop being disingenuous.

[–]hamjam5Nietzschean[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I did what I said in my op and meta. I proposed just active threads in meta before the negroyverde debate of the last couple days, so, unless I'm a psychic, you can't really accuse me of making that the standard for that reason.

And, like I said in my OP, if people want all threads and not just active threads, I'm happy to do it that way. And, since that is the case, I'll add them all in.

Your accusations are bs and I'd invite people to check out meta for themselves and make up their own minds.

[–]Occupier_9000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This thread was posted yesterday. You're lying, playing semantics, attempting to frame your dishonesty as neutral/objective concern for process, and you should stop.

[–]hamjam5Nietzschean[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I said that. The negroyverde debate of the last couple days...like I said.

But the meta thread where I invited people to collaborate with me on the report back and where I said just active threads was 5 or 6 days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/metanarchism/comments/60pb2n/idea_and_invitation_to_collaborate_on_doing_a/

See. I'm not lying, not playing semantics, and as I said in meta and the OP, if people want me to do it differently I'll be happy to. I'll be adding in all the others in just a few minutes since I have now been asked to and no one has asked me not to.

So cut the drama and accusations please.

[–]Occupier_9000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I said that. The negroyverde debate of the last couple days...like I said.

This wasn't mentioned in your OP. stop gaslighting.

But the meta thread where I invited people to collaborate with me on the report back and where I said just active threads was 5 or 6 days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/metanarchism/comments/60pb2n/idea_and_invitation_to_collaborate_on_doing_a/

Meaning you can pick and choose what is an 'active' thread because the criteria is constantly changing.

See. I'm not lying, not playing semantics, and as I said in meta and the OP, if people want me to do it differently I'll be happy to. I'll be adding in all the others in just a few minutes since I have now been asked to and no one has asked me not to.

Acknowledge that you omitted a thread that was posted yesterday, and aren't even following you own contrived criteria.

So cut the drama and accusations please.

After you admit your deception and agree to cease it.

[–]hamjam5Nietzschean[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gaslighting? WTF. no, look at the comment chain. I said I proposed active threads prior to the debate about negroyverde the last couple days -- and the link from 5 or 6 days ago shows I did.

And active threads are one's where voting is still taking place. When has the criteria for "active thread" ever changed? And you accuse me of playing semantics and gaslighting.

I followed exactly what I said I would do in meta 5 or 6 days ago and in the OP here. I suggested alternatives in meta and in the OP here, and invited people to offer suggestions and that I would gladly alter things if people did so. You've made your suggestions, I've made the alterations -- just like I said I would.

Look, if you want to troll me further, go ahead. Make a proposal in meta about it if you think I've been deceitful. Other than that I'd invite people to look in meta themselves and make up their own minds rather than just believing this bs.