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[–]valdirtheblue 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (57子コメント)

Most women, not all, but most are dull, uninteresting and nearly all of them will fill out their biography with the words 'glass of wine' and 'netflix' in the same sentence. Now that I'm single, I have so much more time for activities. Reading, cycling, lifting and guitar work. They dont have any opinions themselves, that's why they adopt their male counterparts values and attitudes. It's sad really, how many women have you met who have genuine hobbies? Or are masters at something? You can bet they picked it up from a guy somewhere. Not all women are like this though, the less physically appealing ones tend to have stronger character and more interests.

I know the feeling man, my ex was an 8/10, beautiful, but boring as fuck. Luckily she was right wing politically. Apart from that? It was all cocktails, instagram and the big city lifestyle. Either give up or find a quality bird with actual intelligence, hobbies and personality. But for gods sake, remember AWALT!

Good luck!

[–]letsjustfindout 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (10子コメント)

My ex broke up with me "because I was so busy it felt like she didn't have a boyfriend". She was always good looking and never went a few weeks without a boyfriend, so the moment she was done with her part time job or school, she was just ready to be entertained. Not self improve, not work on a hobby, just cry if her boyfriend couldn't come over and make her laugh like I was her jester.

If I needed an afternoon to do my taxes and pay my credit card bills, "ugh don't even bother coming over, that'll just bore me". Wanna help or watch me change my oil this afternoon "no that's boring". I'm practicing guitar right now, I'll come over and play you your Taylor Swift or whatever, "no, you'll be concentrating too much on the guitar and not paying attention to me". Well fuck, it's like she wanted someone over every hour of the day to just watch TV, take her on expensive dates, and stare into each other's eyes and say we love each other. She literally didn't know what to do if she woke up on a Saturday and a boyfriend wasn't over by 10. Staying with her would have meant cutting out gym time, never getting my Master's, stopping all side business.

It's not just her though, I had a friend once tell me his girlfriend would call him at work around 2 or 3 and tell him to take the rest of the day off because she was bored. What fucking fantasy world do these things live in?

[–]valdirtheblue 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They've been brought by feminine men or single mothers. They lack manners and believe the world revolves around them.

[–]ImTheMVPBRAH 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man I actually love that it is this way, pre-TRP me thought women were super interesting and busy all the time so I didn’t know what the fuck I should talk about, I couldn’t possibly be interesting enough. To my surprise most women were not juggling several hobbies and fun activities all week, some even have zero real hobbies and interests, it’s always watching netflix or shit like that.

[–]I_VII_VI_VI_VII_I 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women need to be led. That's all there is to it. It's very rare that I can just come home from work, have dinner, and then go read a book. I could, but it's guaranteed she'll be walking into the room, doing something near me, disrupting my concentration and peace. They are not individuals. They do not think for themselves and they don't care about ideas. They care about comfort and social acceptance. They want their instagram and their wedding blogs. That's it. Once you realize this, the struggle is over. You either deal with it or you don't. But that's your call.

It's good to try and find balance - it's nice to have a gf/wife when weddings come around, when it's time for dinner to be cooked, on Christmas, etc. So really, have a partner, ignore shit tests, and bang on the side if you want to. There's no perfect scenario.

[–]Strum_Gewehr 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the hole that daily chores filled in women's lives. With that gone their unstable nature will kill themselves.

[–]aanarchist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

why not just break up with her then. she can find someone who wants to spend more time with her, and you can find someone who gives you more alone time. she's not gonna do it herself she's a woman. you went full beta on that one.

[–]letsjustfindout 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh yeah, fucking her twice a week, continuing to self improve, telling her to walk away if she doesn't like it and watching her go. So beta.

[–]aanarchist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

basically you're both wasting each others time and know it

[–]analyticaltoafault 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A fucking WALT right here man. Good comment.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (32子コメント)

It's sad really, how many women have you met who have genuine hobbies?

Ive noticed that. They dont do anything but socialise 24/7. Im not really a drinker and I dont see the point of clubs. You made some good points I agree with them now that I read them. I want a right wing cutie - its mainly the libshits that really make me lose hope in women lol.

[–]valdirtheblue 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (22子コメント)

I'm not sure what country you are from, but here in the majestic realm of England the bane of liberalism has run free. Unchecked and unchallenged it has emasculated our men and sexually freed our women folk. Alas, tis such a great folly. Gone are the days of tumbling some rosy cheeked maiden in the hay bales! A petite little right wing cutie would be the rarest jewel of them all. God speed!

[–]asotranq 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (8子コメント)

The quality of guys in the UK is a joke as well to be fair. Almost every guy I see when I'm out in the city centre is either fat or really skinny, there's so few people that actually give a shit about their own body it's hilarious

[–]valdirtheblue 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That is a pretty reasonable assessment. We men get told by society at large to love who we are, thin or fat and are encouraged to stagnate and never achieve our own potential. Basically, be a good little slave, marriage and kids.

[–]asotranq 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, and if you mention that diet and exercise go a long way to help with your wellbeing when an obese person is talking about how they need antidepressants or something, people think you're some sort of old school moron who doesn't understand mental illness. Also the downright refusal for a lot of people to do exercise and control their diet is partially why there's a prescription drug epidemic in the US.

[–]empatheticapathetic -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I honestly never see that many fat or skinny people in the UK. I see mostly chads honestly. Guys I would never have a chance against looks wise. I always assumed this fat and obese rhetoric was mostly a US thing.

[–]ImTheMVPBRAH 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe you’re at places where fat and skinny people don’t go. There’s no western country where the majority of men are Chads.

[–]NaughtyFred 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

6-12 months of lifting+diet=top tier male in the UK/Ireland

[–]asotranq 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Assuming you have a face that is a 6 or above. It's something that not often gets talked about but you can't do a lot to fix ugly, maybe take steroids that will change your face shape to give you a stronger jawline but you're pretty much shit out of look

[–]NaughtyFred 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was referring solely to physique.

[–]bznj 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

are you Christopher Tolkien

[–]valdirtheblue 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nay, but he is countryman, a kin of the realm.

[–]Lawojin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

What does right wing mean in this context?

[–]valdirtheblue 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

To be politically conservative. Fighting for honour, private property and the secret return to medieval virtues.

[–]Lawojin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I always asociated right wing with resisting change. Being conservative, going for your own happiness exclusively instead of supporting one another and creating win-win opportunities

[–]2012Aceman 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Not all change is good change, and somethings don't need to be changed simply because it hasn't been switched up in a while.

[–]Lawojin -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Agreed. Though it is not unlikely that conservatives fight to stop change, for the sake of fighting change(so they dont have to step up their game or learn new skills) change should only make things more efficient or safer. Whats your opinion?

[–]2012Aceman 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe that neither side has any moral high ground to stand on anymore. The conservatives started the abuse of power by enforcing social standards, and the liberals kept the ball rolling with expanding the power of the state into effectively taking the role of men in society. Neither side has the people's interests in mind anymore, they just exist to perpetuate themselves and each other. Pay attention not necessarily to the issues, but to why they believe in supporting or opposing the issues like they do. You'll notice that the same tactics they condemn they themselves will use, and at this point they don't even hide it anymore. And at the point where both sides have their hands dirty and are prepared for more, that's when we know we're no longer being led down the right path. Because we are being led into battle, not toward peace, and their money and power comes from sustaining the fight.

[–]newName543456 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

change should only make things more efficient or safer.

Most progressives today seem to be pro-change just because, with no regard to whether it makes things better or worse. If it's the latter, they usually try to censor the critics and label them as "xenophobic" or "hate speech".

And I don't consider conservatives to be individualists. Quite the opposite, they tend to be collectivists, who are just as happy to tell you what you can or can't do, because they don't like it ("drugs are bad, mmmmkay?"). They will also support marriage 2.0 just for the sake of keeping ideal of "nuclear family" afloat without ever contesting divorce laws. They do talk big game when it comes to personal freedoms, but then act the opposite.

[–]Strum_Gewehr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If Churchill and the others were alive today they would be astound at how society can crash so hard.

[–]Koryphae_ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just last night pretty much straight asked from 3 girls what are your hobbies besides work/school and one of them gave me an answer that walking her dog. The two others were pretty much silent and brought up "Oh I used to X, but now, because of Y, I am not." So in the dataset of 3 girls, stats look pretty drastic.

[–]klethra 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

women who have genuine hobbies

The one I hang out with works in fashion design and wants to use what she learns there to start her own company that develops high-visibility clothing for city cyclists. She rock climbs, does triathlons, powerlifts, cooks (her specialty is traditional Vietnamese), tries craft beers, gets involved with local politics, and goes to art fairs.

When she goes out, none of that gets talked about. If you met her in a club, you'd think her only hobbies were makeup and dancing.

If you want to find a girl with hobbies, quit being a degenerate sad sack, go out, and actually talk to a girl. This shit isn't hard. Just treat them like you'd treat a guy.

[–]The_Warhawk77 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Where you from Op? You might have to move to Texas. More interesting right wing women who usually have cool hobbies from being raised on a ranch. I know fine ass girls who enter Jet Ski competitions for fun out here. When you converse with them they'll talk about cool shit like hand guns, 4 wheelers, and all kinds of other cool shit. Location location location. Like the guy above from England it's a terrible place for cool women but Texas is solid from what I find (as long as it's not liberal Dallas or Houston).

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Im english. No joke Ive always wanted to move to America, esp Texas. Seems like my sort of place: Guns, Spirit, God and Freedom.

[–]The_Warhawk77 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Pretty much. Good BBQ everywhere too. Pretty cheap. Plus all the things you just mentioned you can find a girl who's all about those things.

[–]Bravo298 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

English here too, would also seriously love to move to the States, particularly the south. I always holiday there when I can, just a shame that the American immigration system makes it almost impossible for us Brits to relocate there permanently without already having family over there, I would give anything to escape this hellhole!

[–]The_Warhawk77 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just come her illegally. The government will treat you better then they treat me. Seriously hearing shit like this pisses me of we take countless illegal immigrants then turn a shoulder to you. Fucking bullshit.

[–]analyticaltoafault 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wanna know part of why this just is?

Because Brits can't be abused and taken advantage of by the state like 2nd/3rd world immigrants can.

[–]1mojo_juju 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Most women, not all, but most are dull, uninteresting

True.

And the interesting, intelligent ones still find ways to be major cunts, including by being emotionally over-reactive, hyperbole-hurling, hysterical, immature children...

[–]analyticaltoafault 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because they aren't specifically taught as often as boys are taught how not to become tyrants once given power.

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

my ex was an 8/10, beautiful, but boring as fuck. Luckily she was right wing politically. Apart from that? It was all cocktails, instagram and the big city lifestyle.

Luckily? You really cannot see any correlation between a beautiful-boring and right-wing-coctail-instagram chick?

In the left you can probably find many more batshit-crazy girls, but at least the average are not so uniformly boring as in the right.

[–]mighthavepenis 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

How many men do you know with interesting hobbies or are masters at something? Thinking of the people I've met, they're pretty much all just good at, if anything, their jobs, and their hobbies consist of videogames and getting drunk.

[–]TRPrinny 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Really? Most guys I've met at the bare minimum are passionately into lifting, sports, or gaming etc, and then usually have some even more niche personalized hobby. Even most guys I've met who are kind of losers will acknowledge it and say how they want to get into XYZ and follow some dream and grow.

On the other hand I've dated some girls who seemingly are incredibly interesting: intelligent, worldly, altruistic, etc., and look really busy based on social media. Then when I start getting closer to them I see they just surf YouTube on their MacBook and listen to some pop musicians, and throw on Netflix sometimes.

The sad part is some of these girls would talk about how when they were little they were really into some activity or video games, but once college hits it seems all about dressing up, being seen, and socializing all the time.

This isn't to say I haven't met some girls who are very creative and interesting, but it's usually not as often as girls represent themselves.

[–]analyticaltoafault 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I personally believe that this observation is subject to many perceptive biases and can certainly just be a problem humans experience, essentially dopamine addiction/avoidance of pain and uncomfortable situations despite the benefits of them.

[–]DapperDanManCan 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is one of (in my opinion) the problem with TRP and basically any kind of meninism/feminism kinds of subs: there's too much generalization and overall treating the opposite sexes as if they're less than human. It's just not true. All women are just people, despite differences in their chemical makeup and evolutionary instincts. There are intelligent, beautiful women with great personalities out there just as there's a shit ton of dull, average intelligence, ugly women out there. It's the exact same with men. Absolutely all of us know plenty of dbags in the world just as we all know good people too. That's how the world is. Women are the same in this regard. Both men and women tend to stick near the bell curve as far as all the positive traits go. If the average is 5 out of 10 for looks/personality/intelligence, then that's what the majority of all women will be around. The same thing goes for men too, the only difference is women care about money (if a man has enough) over personality and looks. Very few men in the world give a shit how much money a woman makes. Regardless, that's just their need for security that's ingrained in their brains due to evolution. Good looks will overcome not being wealthy just as being wealthy will overcome being ugly as fuck. Personality is kind of the icing on the already baked cake.

Here's the thing though: stop settling for women that don't meet both your looks AND personality criteria. That's your issue here. It takes way more time and pickiness to find a good girl that you enjoy being around. There's maybe one out of a hundred that also has the looks to go with it. If you aren't picky as far as looks go, find a girl that's not a 10, but still attractive to you. It's true that generally the more average-looking the women, the more interesting her personality becomes. The same goes for men. The funniest people in the world weren't fucking alpha male studs. They were usually ugly or short or fat or some combo of those. Chris Farley, Chris Rock, Richard Prior, Louis C K, Dave Chappelle, etc to make a few... All these guys look pretty damn goofy. Even the best looking comedian I can think of (Dane Cook?) is pretty fucking goofy in his own way. The same goes for women. I don't find these women funny, but think of all the female comedians out there: Amy Shumer (fat, ugly), Roseanne Barr (fat, ugly), etc etc and realize that there's truth here. It's probably evolution at work, but a beta male or female, to set themselves apart and/or make themselves more attractive naturally need to work on their personality. It helps to even the gap between their physical looks and potentially hotter girls. The hottest ones tend to also either be the dumbest or at least the shallowest, most boring people on earth. They didn't naturally have to work on their personality to get attention, so they never do. There's always exceptions to this, but that's generally how it goes. The same goes for men. The betas that don't do this end up becoming neckbeards and SJW who women use and abuse. If the neckbeard gets fed up finally, maybe he comes to this sub to learn the truth. Otherwise, they become radical liberal feminists who never get any woman on earth to find them sexually attractive, and that must be an extremely depressing life choice. Little do they seem to know that it is a choice. Anyone can do things to upgrade themselves, even the best of us.

Anyway, the thing is to find a balance somehow. There aren't many unicorns in the world. You won't find many perfect 10 girls in both looks and personality, but you will find a lot of 8 and 2s or 2 and 8s. Look for the above average women with above average personalities. A 7 and 7 means you struck gold. Those are the ones that are for more than just fucking in a one night stand.

Side note: I've very rarely had 'just' a one night stand. Most women, if they'll fuck you once, will want to do it at least a few more times. If she's good in bed, you'll probably want to too.

Back on topic: Just recognize the difference. There ARE good women out there, but they're just not the majority. That's why you need to sift through them all and not waste your time on the bad ones. There's too many fish in the sea to settle at all, and I'd recommend not settling for a perfect 10 looks girl with a 1 personality anymore than anyone settles for a 1 looks girl with a 10 personality. Find a balance of both, even if she isn't a 10 in every category. There's nothing wrong with dating a 7 with a 10 personality over a 10 with a 2 personality. If you've slept with enough women, you'll know that pussy tends to be pussy regardless. If you're attracted to the girl, that's good enough. If her personality is also good, then don't ghost her and go for it.

[–]empatheticapathetic 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My oneitis was a 5 and the coolest girl I ever met personality wise. She still cucked me for one evening with Chad. AWALT

[–]tourguidez 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, NAWALT. Just like NAMALT. Don't dwell on the past, it will eat you up inside and turn you into someone you are not.

[–]nbom 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

'glass of wine' and 'netflix' in the same sentence.

My flat mate is same - it's such a turn off these women.

Craigslist ad I saw today (sad):

I am 33, 5"8, kind, compassionate, pretty, brunette, average weight, Caucasian, and am looking for a good guy in his thirties. In no particular order I like: pets, good quality chocolate, good quality food, being outdoors, writing, food, new recipes, psychology, the paranormal, books, movies, netflix, youtube videos, and lots of other things.

[–]DapperDanManCan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean.. That ad could've been written by a man and nobody would think twice. This is a people thing, not a woman thing. Most people just aren't that interesting, and very few men master hobbies or whatever anymore than women do. Exceptional people are considered that for a reason. This is the stuff that I tend to disagree with on this sub, because people are all just people. You realize that the older you get. We're all fucking boring in our own ways.

[–]analyticaltoafault 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just want to say, I was nodding along smiling and even thinking how funny it is that the more virtuous and life fulfilling women I know are the less physically attractive ones, then you go and say it outright.

Suffering makes humans better if they make it through. It's unfortunate that the physically attractive ones rarely learn this in good time.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have to really agree. American women are, predominantly now, very mediocre and without any redeeming value except for sex.

Even the ones you run across that you think might be "unique" and "cool" turn out to be flakes and of course were texting another guy the whole time they started with you.

There are rare birds here and there, but to be honest, I have a hell of a lot better time doing shit I enjoy, working on my goals/reading/learning skills, and etc. I'll let the occassional women fall into line for sex but aside from that I am increasingly becoming uninterested in wasting my time with these silly bitches.

[–]Docbear64 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (10子コメント)

It sounds like you're trying to appreciate a woman like she's a man . Maybe make more or better male friends ?

Serious discussions , challenging your opinions for their merit and not just a scarecrow , those sound like the kind of qualities I can personally say I have only enjoyed in other men .

If I want to feel lighter and / or happy positive women are good for that . If I want to go out and have fun most women are good for that. If I want ot have sex and enjoy a persons beauty again I would choose a woman .

Not saying I haven't met intellectually interesting women or fucking boring and thoughtless men but I know what I am looking for in a plate versus a friend and women then men respectively satisfy those needs.

[–]1kez88 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (6子コメント)

This is exactly the point. You shouldn't appreciate women for the same reasons as a man. I like to hang out with the women I date because they're the fun part of the day when I can stop stressing at work or the gym and just fuck around with and have fun, watch a movie, fuck them, tease them, do light hearted things with.

Women should be the spice of your life, not the main aspect of your life

[–]MrAcceleration 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I find it difficult to believe we survived as a species when half of the gender is a low brow ape with a big ass and we have to keep it simple to not club them over the head lol

[–]Bankus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You sound like Schopenhauer

[–]1kez88 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't, especially since the very reason you're on this forum is so you can better attain the the low brow apes with a big ass that you don't have to club over the head lol. Also, women did serve a very real and different purpose back in cavemen days. It just happens that these days being a woman isn't a benefit to society the way it used to be

[–]SetConsumes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nor is being a man, hence why women are basically revolting and partially replacing men.

[–]Flatlamb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We survived bc we didn't treat them this way in the past

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It sounds like you're trying to appreciate a woman like she's a man

Thats kinda how it feels. I feel dissatisfied at how most girls are. I dont really enjoy them but I have to talk to them and spend time with them for the sake of a relationship or to have sex.

Things in my life kinda went sour and I ended up being surrounded by groups I tried to avoid in High School. Not bad people, but people that are more interested in taking it easy than doing difficult things. Im studying rn to get back on track so I can hang out with more like minded people. I think you're right, thats probably what I need.

[–]theONE843663 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just fuck them they're only for sex. You gotta deal with the bullshit no way around it.

[–]Docbear64 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

For what it's worth I think meetup.com is a great site for everything from professional networking to socializing opportunities . I've attended both kinds as well as groups that are somewhere in the middle from there and been very pleased even if I stopped attending the groups after a while .

[–]blackedoutfast 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (3子コメント)

women are mentally children. just accept that fact and start laughing at all the stupid silly things they do.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

but its so annoying and its so hard for me to feel like fucking them anymore!! I need to be attracted to them like I was back in the day but I cant anymore

[–]bznj 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel a lot like you because I've had a lot of one night stands without chatting much nor dating. Then I've been dating a bit more in order to find someone "serious" but they are all the same as you say, very very predictable. So I've settled down and admitted that the best option would be to find one with the least drama abilities and mold her to my personality. It's kinda sad and boring to begin with but it is how it is. I don't consider them as much more evolved than a kid or a dog. You make them grow.

[–]MrBellsprout123 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Todays women are incredibly dull and boring. I heard a quote once:

"Men have to work hard to be fuckable, women have to work hard to be likeable."

Its so easy for women to get sex now, there's no incentive to be likeable, hence the epidemic of dull boring and dumb women.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Thats a great quote haha. Sometimes i wish we lived in a different time when the natural dynamic between the genders was still healthy. Its a strange shitty thing. Divorce, STDs, depression, abortion, alcoholism etc.

[–]MrBellsprout123 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sometimes? For me its all the time. I want nothing more than a family. wWhen I'm in my 30's I'm probably going to adopt a kid or 2. And find some post wall slut to take care of them for me. Of course they'll be in my name and I'll have complete control over them. But I probably won't be spinning plates and try and focus on one woman when that happens. I'm not expecting much from her, but I just think its healthy for the children to not have woman constantly coming in and out of their life. It shouldn't be too hard, theirs plenty of desperate cat ladies in their 30's looking for a family. Even if I don't find a girl, at least the kids won't be sitting in some fucking foster home. Single Dad is better than no Dad.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You know, almost every friend I had at school had a single mother. Now most of them are fat, watch too much TV (im guilty of that too i guess) and dont really seem there. Its sad. Boys that grew up in a normal home seem to have done much better. This cannot continue our very survival is at hand but whenever you mention single motherhood or all the other ills of society people just freak out!

[–]Bankus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's fucking sad. I had parents who loved each other and me and I've never felt any bitterness toward women as a whole.

[–]745gtes5 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Serious questions:

Do you actually want a woman in your life?

What do you want a woman in your life for?

Sounds like you're bored with stupid bitches. They are a dime a dozen and you see this. Good for you. Very understandable. You now know what you don't want. Now you need to figure out what you do want.

Keep ignoring the dumb shit and make room for the solid one that may come through. And in the meantime, just work on yourself. Wasting time with the sluts is stupid anyway.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Yes I want a woman in my life. I want one cause I wanna start a family one day and its better than just hanging out with guys all day or doing hobbies. I mean... u cant do that forever, its just not right for a man to die alone without having children. Thats a depression idea to me.

I hate sluts and I find most women to be around the same IQ level as well as having similar personalities. Im not Einstein but im more interested in academic like Physics, engineering, politics, physiology etc than wasting my night achieving nothing. Im in good shape and people find me funny so dont worry im not some pimpled face fat nerd.

[–]MisfitMind00 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems to me you're kinda lost and in need of some deep reflection. I understand the fear of dying alone, but the first mistake you're making is assuming that hapiness will come from the outside (some woman you'll find in your life) instead of from the inside.
If you're not happy with yourself, no one in the world will ever fill that void.

[–]745gtes5 -15 ポイント-14 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Younger women tend to be stupid and superficial. Just work on yourself and as you get older, the sluts will fall to the side and you'll meet more real women. Women who have a career and aren't looking to fuck random dudes they meet at bars.

[–]2wiseclockcounter 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Did you copy and paste that from a 35 year old woman's OKcupid profile or some shit?

"Look at my attractive, sssexy career... And also how chaste I am... It's definitely not because I can't pick up the men I want as easily anymore... I'm just more dignified and career oriented and I totally don't have a holocaust-level grave of dicks in the back of my psyche... Real women have wrinkles and cellulite."

If having a career and fewer sexual options conferred greater character, we could fill up a small country with respectable gentlemen.

The reality is that women aren't supposed to defer motherhood to the brink of infertility. The way our society produces this phenomenon is not healthy and the kind of psychological baggage that comes with it is clear.

These aren't "real" women you're describing. They're desperate women who have been misled and are clinging to whatever options they have left. You can chose similar, less toxic problems to deal with that have much tighter asses.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] -9 ポイント-8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Did you copy and paste that from a 35 year old woman's OKcupid profile or some shit?

Keep it civil. Do not flame bait, or you will be banned. Only warning.

[–]2wiseclockcounter 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I meant it as a cheeky rib. duly noted though.

[–]OneRedYear 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

When did the redpill start safespacing? We did we stop calling out stupidity with locker room talk?

[–]DigitallyDisrupt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When did the redpill start safespacing? We did we stop calling out stupidity with locker room talk?

Seems like the past year or so, maybe even around trump's locker room talk. This place is past peak. Those that can, are. Those that think they can, but aren't, hang around here and concern troll.

Maybe sub numbers are rolling off or something, all I know is, the bouncer at the popular club doesn't worry about offending someone.

[–]745gtes5 -6 ポイント-5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

What kind of gay ass white knight crap is this? Did mommy not breas tfeed you?

What the fuck retard you're projecting a lot of your mommy issues onto my argument.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What kind of gay ass white knight crap is this? Did mommy not breas tfeed you?

Keep it civil. Do not flame bait, or you will be banned. Only warning.

[–]745gtes5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

lolwut? I returned in kind. Check the method.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one cares about your pissing contest.

One week ban.

[–]CUMGUZZLER_9000 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Amazing counter argument, you completely convinced me of your opinion!

[–]745gtes5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not my job to teach you how to read. It's not my problem you can't grasp complex thought. So instead, you get the stick, bitch.

You probably post here because you can't actually man up with a woman in real life. My bitches listen to me, you probably don't even have bitches. Faggot.

[–]CUMGUZZLER_9000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not my problem you can't grasp complex thought

Well, I am sorry but your truly profound "complex thought" e.g.

What kind of gay ass white knight crap is this? Did mommy not breas tfeed you?

What the fuck retard you're projecting a lot of your mommy issues onto my argument.

You probably post here because you can't actually man up with a woman in real life. My bitches listen to me, you probably don't even have bitches. Faggot.

is just out of my league I guess.

Also, enjoy the ban kid. Lol

[–]FerrusMan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The sluts never fall to the side, and women who have careers will definitely look to fuck random dudes, because of the laws of hypergamy. AWALT as well. The idea that she will "grow out of it", that's pretty blue pill.

[–]745gtes5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't say 'she' would 'grow out of it'. I said as he gets older he will find women who aren't unfaithful sluts. Jesus Christ, learn to read.

He said he's tired of the stupid young sluts and I pointed out that, if he leaves them alone, the good ones will appear.

Explain to me how the fuck you misread that into some blue pill 'she'll grow out of it' shit.

[–]Veritas_potissimum 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The dissatisfaction is reality (TRP) clashing with your blue pill indocrination and upbringing which put this silly notions in your head about what women are like or what your life should look like. Consider yourself lucky, some men will not even get a chance at this woke dissatisfaction and a trapped in a permanent slumber.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah it feels like something hit me right in the brain. I think about it, but my mind is used to not thinking in those terms so its kinda trying to shut those thoughts off. I get an hour or so of thinking and accepting before I cba and get a drink. I should write my thoughts down maybe and work on them from there.

I dont think its all upbringing and indoctrination I think its just that men really want women to be one way, but they turn out being the other. On the surface, women are sweet and cute, but in reality they just feel like biological machines. Its like trying to tell a religious person that their God isnt real - they just dont wanna hear it.

[–]Veritas_potissimum 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you think all men think the same way try raising a boy in a jungle and see if he "respects" women. The sooner you accept you were had the sooner you can make necessary changes. There is not even time to blame anybody or feel sorry for yourself because the world doesn't care about your troubles like some internet strangers might.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is not even time to blame anybody or feel sorry for yourself because the world doesn't care about your troubles like some internet strangers might.

Im not, just saying I think its more to do with how men want women to be rather than what society tells us to expect of them. Society is a product of people's desires after all.

[–]empatheticapathetic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It just takes time bro. You'll just naturally accept such things easier over time as long as you stay aware.

[–]LostLittleBoi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't feel lucky I just feel slighted. I go on and off between hopeful and hopeless about the future and mental changes ill undergo/won't undergo and it's hard as fuck to believe I'll "internalise" this shit or whatever you wanna call it when I'm still just angry and fucked up as ever... What do?

[–]destraht 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

get offended whenever you mention the differences in genders even if its a harmless comment,

This is largely a Western female thing. Its generally a pretty pointless thing to mention because if they have received the Western indoctrination then they can't see it and will be offended by it and if they are capable of realizing that men are different than women then its an irrelevant conversation.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol i remember saying that men are stronger than women once and this girl started genuinely getting pissy.

[–]Mangoinhand 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Always aim for higher standards for yourself and everyone in your life.

Keep upgrading everything

[–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Bro I can show you a tinder convo from today where a girl opened up with a really sweet message about how cool i looked and blabla. I tell her hey honestly that was really a sweet message, thanks, but im just looking to get my dick wet because the modern woman is not usefull for much else.

So what you think she said? "Omg pig"? "Sick freak"? She fuckin sends me 2 messages back how she is not one of those girls and we should just get to know eachother.

They have nothing to offer and they know it, its why they are all fucking miserable inside. Every woman is a trainwreck. I just got done reading some HB9's blog post about how she exposed herself to several hundred men in her early teens up until 18 and now has so much depression and anxiety that she cant leave the house. She still hot as fuckkk though jesusss, but worthless.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And the more partners they have the less likely they are to keep a stable marriage. And we're the ones that they try and shame if we dont want them to be raging sluts and start a family instead! Women are really annoying. Men just know whats best Ive come to realise this.

[–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I found for me, once I completely abandoned that fantasy of finding a woman that is essentially a man emotionally, you can enjoy/respect them again. I don't see how one can read about women and not initially feel a lack of enjoyment, the mainstream or BP view puts women on a pedestal to which they obviously don't live up. Otto Weininger wrote a book about women in the 1890's and then shot himself over it, because he figured basically "shit I will never find a unicorn so it's not worth it". Lower expectations = better results.

[–]jizzledfreq 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The advice red pill gives should be taken with a grain of salt, with that being said, just meet a bunch of different women, I'm sure you're bound to find some that tickle your fancy.

My whole take on red pill is more so in how to recognize certain behaviors in women as it pertains to romantic/sexual relationships so that one can secure a more plentyful supply of sexual partners or to keep oneself from being played in a LTR situation. It's about bettering ones self to make oneself more attractive to the opposite sex, and more confidence in a variety of social settings.

I think there are a lot of men on this forum who completely misunderstand the red pill and think it's all about becoming some hypermasculine man with massive muscles, developing an obnoxious attitude, and that RP is to slay vagina left and right, or going so far as to completely reject women.

I guarantee that whatever interests and hobbies you have, there are women with those exact same interests and hobbies, and personalities that don't grind your gears. You don't have to have sex with every single woman you see, and you really shouldn't look down on them as some inferior being. Women are women, women are humans, and just like men, women have their own quirks. That's life.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So no differences between men and women? Got it. Your sjw is showing.

[–]DeeDee1234567 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ok, I'm like a half-pill red-piller; I appreciate this forum as a genuine way of finding order out of the chaos of the dating world, but I think you might be OD'ing on your red pill dude.

Here is where I think your problem is. You are trying to replicate your mother's unconditional love for you in women who ARE NOT YOUR MOM. Because no-one can ever reach your mom's love for you, you are bitter and close yourself off emotionally from women, who have a lot to offer.

How do I know? I'm the exact same fucking way dude.

I don't know if you watch the soprano's, but I think it should be required watching for every red piller. There is an amazing episode where after Tony Sopran has a Peyote Trip, he goes to Dr Melfi and talks about an epiphany he had. He says that your mother is like the bus driver on a bus, and you are the passenger. She takes you down the road and drops you off at a station. Instead of walking on into the wide world, you spend your entire life trying to get back on the bus. But that was never the point. The Bus was only there to drop you off where you are. It's genius and sums up a lot of male anxiety and bitterness about women.

Dude, in terms of technique on how to pick up chicks and maintaining relationships with women, this sub is the best. The users here are genuine dudes trying to help each other and I love you guys. You are the guy's I'd want to shoot the shit with and have a beer.

BUT, don't OD on red pill philosophy. You hate women, because THEY ARE HUMAN. what you hate about women is really just a scapegoat for the harshness and intrinsic unfairness of life. Women are capable, just as men, of being selfish, self-absorbed and superficial. Just like how men are equally capable of being Elon Musk or Adolf Hitler.

The beauty of a woman is in her subtelties. If you want to enjoy her in a pure red-pill framework, go out with her to a social event, and for 30 minutes, don't think about any games. Just sit back and enjoy where you are. Just think about what a socially superior dude you are BECAUSE YOU ARE WITH HER. Like when you drive down the road in a really nice car, and notice people admiring your car. There's one plus.

And these negatives that you speak of can be seen as positives. You say she just agrees with everything you say. Well, take a step back and ENJOY the fact that she has so much implicit trust in you, so much respect for you that she feels that your opinion is the only opinion WORTH HAVING. Do you see where I'm going with this.

I think what you and all red-pillers need to do is get all the red-pill game, and have it be so ingrained in your psyche that it becomes SECOND NATURE. By that I mean it is in your subconcious, so you are not spending every minute of the day thinking about it. Once you do this, you can start enjoying yourself a little more.

[–]Bankus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Really wise post. I think you really hit the nail on the head. Guys here who are super bitter toward women likely have some weird relationship with their mother.

Women are people, just like men. They have good parts and bad parts, just like men. To expect them to be angels is a biiiiiiit... silly.

[–]DeeDee1234567 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey, Thank you. I don't like to see TRP'ers as having anything especially weird going on with their mothers. I talk about Mother - Son relationships in the context of Freud, where every dude alive has mother issues, with her being your subconcious model you try to find in a potential partner. I think whats happening in this case is that he is using his 'alpha' technique so much on his girlfriend, that the poor thing is afraid to speak her mind in fear of upsetting him or getting him to use TRP tricks to belittle her or something. These TRP or Seduction tools are powerful. But once you are in a relationship, its more about finesse than brute force. Thats what I mean by making it second nature. If all you do when you are with the girl is thinking robotically, with each social encounter a tug of war in some power game, how the fuck are 1) you going to enjoy yourself and 2) get the best out of the poor scatty brained chick who doesnt know whats going on.

[–]GenghisKhanSpermShot 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You're not really meeting the right women and I think you fell off the deep end of TRP.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

i just want a girl thats chill. Ill keep looking.

[–]GenghisKhanSpermShot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know what you mean, I found one eventually, they're out there.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just be yourself and the right woman will find you, got it.

[–]GenghisKhanSpermShot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not remotely close to what I said, but ok.

[–]Dr-Mantis-Tobogan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The interesting girls YOURE looking for are always in the same place YOU are. You like to stay at home? So does she. Playing video games? So is she.

[–]AssumeFormlessness 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I must congratulate you, you have learnt a valuable lesson. This is what it's like when you truly take pussy off the pedestal. You understand that women can only bring you pleasure, which only feeds your ego mind, in the form of a few feel good hormones and social validation, but can not bring you fulfilment and ultimately joy in life. People say "depressed" or "sad phase of TRP", but I don't just buy into that. This is a sign that you know deep inside you that you have a purpose, a mission in life, that stand above any woman and the only power she will ever have over you, that is her wet hole between her legs. If you can embrace this in your life, stand above and be independent of women, social validation, outcome and desires, and I assure you, you will be greatly rewarded in one way or another.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the best response. Thats what it feels like!

[–]ShakaLeonidas 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your just in the melancholy depression phase of digesting the pill. Blue pill conditioning has side effects. Its like someone whos religious coming to the conclusion their isnt a God( im not atheist). Its a meta level existential crisis finding out about the nature of females after you've been conditioned and groomed for decades to believe otherwise. Appreciate them for what they are. They serve a purpose just rember they are vessels to be filled, thats it. Past that point your asking for too much. Back in the day they manipulated men for survival so they had to be experts. Now its recreatiomal so they half ass at it and expect for you to fill in the blanks. They don't get more interesting. You get better and the ones you encounter either get prettier or looser.

[–]Bankus 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahah good way of putting it. Guess I was never groomed to believe that women were angels. They're people, just like everyone else. But unlike dudes you can bang 'em. That's pretty much it.

[–]1max_peenor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

sex without meaning

Sex has a singular meaning; to cause you to bathe her baby machine with genetic material. If you are looking for the validation or true purpose between jizz spurts, you really need to spend some time on a mountain top. Sex is fun though and promotes good health, so have fun and be healthy.

[–]Throwawaytodaytfp 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women tend to go along with the current cultural Zeitgeist a bit more than men for myriad reasons but a big factor is that a woman likes to reduce her chances of conflict because a) she's not going to be physically capable of winning and b) because being seen as embroiled in one can be harmful to her perceived status

Sounds like you're just dealing with some quite ignorant and unintelligent people though - I've known both genders to behave this way and it's usually due to lack of intellect or emotional awareness.

Advice? Don't be naive. People are people, reap what enjoyment you can out of social interactions and don't, whatever you do, try and close yourself off from others.

[–]SetConsumes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Stop trying to appreciate women as if they're men.

'This orange sucks cause it's totally not like apples'

Do you realize how much harder women would be to deal with if most thought for themselves! With the average girl's logic? Lol

So many men can barely handle women as it is!

[–]TheLaughingRhino 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Going to say a few things that are just not politically correct.

Over time, I've met people, both male and female, who were molested as kids by a relative. Sometimes a parent, or an uncle, or someone close to the family where they were indirectly a "part of the family" I have never ever in my life ever met anyone I knew who was molested and came out the other side in one piece. There is something simply "broken" about them in a way I'll never ( thankfully) understand.

My take on guys who can't get past the anger phase with women, esp with "unplugging" is a lot of guys, I suspect, have had some pretty crappy mothers. If you had a truly craptastic mother, I'm not sure the core building blocks are there to formulate the apathy needed to deal with most women. I just think it's a subject most people don't want to talk about. David Chase said Tony Soprano and his relationship with his mother, Livia, was sourced from his own experiences with his mother growing up, and that he intentionally made it comedic most of the time because there was no other way to conceal the pure tragedy of it.

If a guy's mother was simply a truly horrible human being, on every level, not sure that guy can cross through to the other side, to get past the anger phase, without it bubbling up again and again. Because unlike most basic irritating women, you can't escape the person who raised you. Who set the archetype that only reinforced the kind of behavior that kept getting the guy hurt over and over again. People seek the familiar, if you grew up with a toxic woman, all you know is toxic women and it's easy to fall into a future relationship with one.

I ran into a married woman I know, while running errands, and she let me know her husband was out of town for work for a month, and then she kept asking me what I was doing this weekend. I have really chemistry with her, and she has a lot of pretty cool qualities. Something I keep in the back of my head is - If I was her husband, would I be all that happy if she was talking/interacting with another guy in the same manner in which she talks/flirts/be suggestive as she does with me?

Commitment seems pointless to be honest. Just look at how most women with BFs and husbands act. They might not all be hunting for you to cheat with, but it's not hard to feel out one who is clearly open/looking to cheat/branch swing/trade up/etc.

Nothing wrong with asking yourself if the juice is worth the squeeze. If it's not, then maybe it's just not for you. Maybe it's like War Games, for some guys, maybe the optimal strategy is not to play in the first place.

Best answer I can give is find your passion in life or one of several passions. Associate with people within that passion ( i.e. like rock climbing) and maybe you'll meet someone who shares the passion. The interest might not be totally the other person, but that you can both relate to something you both connect with on some level. I think this might bypass some of the boring and predictable behaviors that turn you off.

Some guys I've met, if I've met their mother, I can see exactly why they are broken and it might not ever change. Not for how they see and how they deal with women in general.

[–]RedPillRobin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to the bitter taste of the red pill. Taking the red pill is more like choking it down for a few years.

Honestly man I have went through the same thing and what I do is try to see the good characteristics in them. Like how I read the Bible a lot and every girl im with suddenly finds Jesus. But to me that's submission that's letting me be the man and she is willing to become what I am. Also love when a girl really sees you as high value she will work so hard to please you in every way. Now we know this is a temporary thing but it's really amazing when a girl looks up to you and respects the hell out of you.

I guess I'm saying look at them differently see what's good.

[–]FerrusMan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Kinda feels immoral to/act in ways that women find attractive. "

Yes I found this as well. I have a strong moral compass, and when I unplugged the whole world flipped upside down for me. Understanding that women aren't attracted to bad boys in spite of that, they are attracted to bad boys BECAUSE of that. (being bad) One of many red pill examples.

You aren't alone in dealing with this.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats good to know! I dont really mean acting bad. Im getting better at understanding how people work and thats making me question weather I should use that knowledge to get what I want as it makes it feel unnatural and manufactured. Ill prob adjust into it.

[–]GAbiguy32 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just embrace your inner queer. You obviously enjoy the company of men more than women, so quit lying to yourself. Give one of your bros a hand sometime. I can already tell you will like it more than you think you would.

[–]lonewolf-chicago 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Challenge yourself. Find something you appreciate about them and it might just be physical but challenge yourself

[–]buzzmerchant 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm in a similar boat. I find it hard to even hit on girls any more, because i know i don't really want them. It's like, why take the risk and make myself vulnerable for a prize i don't even want.

[–]Jamal-RedPill 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are confusing your desire for spiritual/philosophical growth with "Love" from a woman. Its very common, happens to almost everyone. Not even landing a true unicorn will get rid of that hunger though because the solution is internal.

[–]dowgeni 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is very common when people take the RedPill. You will realize, however, that there are some girls that are awesome to hangout with and brings out stuff that you can't found with male friends.

The key is to make sure you are attractive enough for these girls and that you are in a location where you can meet a lot of them.

[–]FrancoB42 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're generalizing on some points, but I understand your frustration; there is only 1 gender, women are objects, use them as you would a toy

[–]OneRedYear 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Stop expecting shit. All I expect is for my dick to get wet and make some money. That's it. I don't require anything from a woman at all. I'll enjoy sex and if we have sex again, cool. If not, cool. Fun is fun.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

yeah but the prob is Im not able to get in the mood cause im not really attracted to them the same way I was when i was ignorant.

[–]OneRedYear 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You don't get hard when a hot woman is in your bed like you used to because you know how women work? Bro...you real got problems.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, that's just the red pill rage.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How so? They aren't what I was expecting and I dont feel challenged. Maybe this will pass as I get more used to it?

[–]godfatherchimp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You just need to know what to expect from women. They are a specific kind of fun that you can't have with your male friends. And your male friends provide you with a specific kind of fun you could never have with your women. That's why it's important to fill your life with one or more women that you fuck, and quality male friends. It's very fun to have both when you know what to expect.

[–]zephyrprime 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"do you guys just have a skill for pushing down how boring and irritating women can get?"

You have to accept reality as it is not as you want it to be.

"Kinda feels immoral to/act in ways that women find attractive."

It is immoral but they are attracted to evil not good. What choice do you have?

"Maybe I should go for women that are really challenging and as high quality as I can get instead of ones that take less time and dont hold themselves up to a high standard?"

You should. There are few of those. Even if you get a better grade of woman, AWALT still applies.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Challenging women will destroy you in the end. She will not accept your lead. She will challenge everything you do. She will use sexual denial to control you. Eventually with you working to keep her happy by giving in to her constant demands and she challenging every one of your demands, the result will be a beaten down shell of a man in a sexless marriage with a woman who despises and abuses you at every turn the only defense you have is to not give a fuck because if you do it is a fight and she wins every time. If you don't give a fuck she will keep pushing until you do. Either way, she gets her own way and you don't get anything except what she allows.

[–]canlrn96 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How have you gotten your game to the point where they are "predictable" any resources in particular?

[–]RPmatrix 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Any advice?

You've already answered your own question "raise the bar"

Maybe I should go for women that are really challenging and as high quality as I can get instead of ones that take less time and dont hold themselves up to a high standard?

It doesn't take great effort and skill to be a decent fuck, however I can't say the same about being a decent human being

what you're looking for bro is "intimacy", (something TRP doesn't seem to discuss, maybe as to what constitutes 'intimacy' is quite a subjective thing? idk)

but I think it's eventually going to need to, as IMO/E all LTR's are based upon 'understanding, intimacy and trust' ... and good sex, but that's the easy part

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You've already answered your own question "raise the bar"

Just wanted to see what others had on their mind.

[–]RPmatrix 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

NP's matey ... you're doing better than many!

[–]JFMX1996 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, and the few girls that do have hobbies like them more so in an attempt to be a special snowflake to try really hard to be "unique" and stand out.

It gets irritating. At this point I can talk to girls pretty easily and get numbers, but I feel you. It's just not as interesting anymore outside the initial ego boost of getting a number and staying well-practiced in your ability.

It's more satisfying to build yourself up as a man, pick up your own hobbies, gain knowledge and wisdom, make quality guy friends that are like brothers, and have good adventures in life.

[–]Class_Punk 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I generally feel the same. I have had some women subtlety throwing themselves at me who I could have just plated, but I don't care about casual sex or dealing with shit tests and I've stayed a virgin instead. I simply don't give a damn, my ultimate goal in life isn't believing in some kind of romantic love that evidence suggests doesn't exist in women, my ultimate goal in life is to be legendary.

[–]analyticaltoafault 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just remember, as much as the BS extremists will insist otherwise, or basically shift topics and blame men for being awful, men made this fucking world. Men have been the ones crafting valuable societial virtues from day 1.

That said, it should be obvious that you are tragically suffering trying to find something that does not existb. Women are not for that.

Get your tribe together and bring good women in to enjoy their pleasurable moments.

I've been where you are. Focus not on getting your dick wet, but what manifests eudaimonia from within you. Place yourself into situations that give you opportunities to excel and display what you're capable of, and you'll come across someone that you can get addicted to loving again, hopefully this time with the ability to be mindful of this addiction and manage it with the experience you've gained leading your life and the lives of others.

Women should not be THE challenge you set for yourself in life man.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Focus not on getting your dick wet

Im not. I actually dont care much about sex, I just want an interesting girl and was wondering why so many ive met are very similar to each other. Perhaps its a coincidence?

[–]Mckallidon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can barely pay attention to them when they talk and wonder how the fuck they can be so self-absorbed they don't even notice be trying to not fall asleep until it's time to pound.

[–]Wallace44 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Find em, feel em, fuck em, forget em. When a man is focused on his mission, the most he needs from a woman is occasional sex.

[–]Omegeria 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Either turn bi(sexually is 50% from nurture you can do it), or treat the boring women in full Tupac bitches ain't shit mode.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

why would I want to turn myself bi? Its disgusting.

[–]Omegeria 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I said it's an option, nobody said you have to. And who's to say that being bi is gross? Pretty sure it's not gay to bis. Nah jk I'm acting like I take offense you can say whatever you want about sexuality as long as you don't say it to someone with that sexuality. Also not bring up your distaste in case your kid is one of those and you give him/her major mental issues.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Keep your homosexuality to yourself. Im not interested.

[–]Omegeria 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm straight, however I wouldn't go to someone and shame them for their sexuality.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Homosexuality is similar to feminism and other social problems.

[–]PowerVitamin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like you're choking on the pill bud.

You have to replace societal (BP) morality with your morality. One, as you claimed, based on honour.

[–]Aaronindhouse 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Women are not meant to be interesting dude. They don't exist to fulfill the intellectual or mechanical things that interest you. That's what your friends are for.

[–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Any tips on how to accept this? Will I just naturally do it with time

[–]Aaronindhouse 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What you are feeling is a lack of fulfillment. You are still looking to a woman to full fill you from the sounds of it.

The first thing I would ask you is how many really good friends do you have? Do you see them often? Do you guys do things for fun? Do you have a sports team you play with? Do you have any sort of extra curricular that you enjoy and do with a group?

If you don't have good friends, or good mates that you go drink or have fun with you need to get some.

The big lie about women is that they are your other half. Your companion. The piece that completes you.

They are not. Intellectual activities complete you. Hobbies complete you. Challenging and maintaining your physical ability completes you. Socializing completes you. Your friends complete you. A woman is just the passenger in your car along for the ride. They can be fun. They can make you laugh. They can make you happy. And all the other bad shit too. But they are just a passenger man. Nothing more. They depend on you to be complete. When you look to them to complete you, they turn away like you are a leper man.

[–]RedPillersareCucks 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe I should go for women that are really challenging and as high quality as I can get instead of ones that take less time and dont hold themselves up to a high standard?

Yes. It sounds like you are miserable going after dumb sluts who fulfill your stereotypes about being inferior. That's not a universal female trait; like men, there's a large variety of women. There's tons of mouthbreathing idiot cavemen who couldn't hold a conversation to save their lives. They're dumb, boring, and completely uninteresting people.

Though fair warning if you are going to go after intelligent women who are challenging and hold themselves to high standards: If you view women as boring and stupid who will cheat at the drop of the hat, or let them know you think that, most of them will think of you the same way you currently think of women- like a knuckledragging misogynist. That'll leave you with only bottom of the barrel women who conform to your stereotypes.

[–][deleted] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are loads of interesting, entertaining birds out there. You need to change your surroundings.

[–]Bankus -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. All but one of my friends are female. I love 'em, but then I'm a big flirt.

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    [–]NewtonianCooking[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    What are you talking about?

    I dont mind facism.

    [–][削除されました]  (2子コメント)

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      [–]185poundsofhatredWIP 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Dude, were you bullied in school?

      [–]Bankus -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Kinda sad dude. I love women and I'd much rather be around them than men. I have about a dozen female friends (3 of whom I bang regularly) and one guy friend I hang out with once every six months.

      [–]ReluctantH -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      You're gay dude. Seriously, it's okay.

      [–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I have never been interested in men, emotionally or sexually. The idea of gay sex repulses me.

      [–]klethra -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      am I a horrible cunt

      This one. You've somehow managed to ignore the fact that women have more goals and purposes in life than riding your dick. When you flirt with them, they flirt back. If that bores you, try not flirting with them. You might be surprised that they have personalities.

      [–]NewtonianCooking[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I think you've misunderstood my point. I was commenting on how I often find them not having goals. Im not interested in just having a girl for sex.

      [–]klethra 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Because you're relying on an ugly, preconceived notion bolstered by this sub. It's confirmation bias every time you look for sophisticated hobbies in men and simple ones in women. If you talked to the two the same way, you'd find the same results. If you're not interested in just having a girl for sex, leave this sub behind because cheap PUA tricks are only good for finding your next bang.

      [–]FreedomSaoirse -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I am one hundred percent sure you people don't have enough experience with women