I see lot of people explaining mgtow as men refusing to get married... But I think whole relationship is thing is ruined... In europe it is normal for girl to have 10 or so sex partners before she even ends school Same with tatoos 1st one before age of 20... Same with getting drunk, smoking using drugs do it all before 20... Cheating is ok as long as women do it you know they were stupid and made mistakes and so on. So yeah I hate main stream bitch culture is never blamed... Who really would even want to date this type of girl... And rest yeah there is like 5% so called old school girls which get matried and live happy ever after...