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Looks like "PizzaGate" has been successfully rebranded "PedoGate", by an ex-CIA agent no less, exactly as I predicited it would be. How long does everyone one on here think this psy-op built for distraction will continue? What will the next one be? (self.conspiracy)

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I guess the mods here could start nuking everything about it, but then that's censorship. They let it continue, they help ensure hardly anything of any relevance is discussed.

Are there any other subs on Reddit that like to dig into actual things TPTB are doing? You know, things like overthrowing other nations, conducting covert actions, unethical covert psychological experiments or have all of them been covered with pizza spam, idiocy from 4Chan, or praise for our Glorious Leader Donald Trump?

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[–]wizardlydobie 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If it is then this post serves as an example of why they do it, to divide.

[–]creq[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could you explain?

[–]Ambiguously_Ironic[M] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess the mods here could start nuking everything about it, but then that's censorship. They let it continue, they help ensure hardly anything of any relevance is discussed.

Quite a predicament.

[–]Ninjakick666 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I just keep an eye on FBI/DOJ... they cover the crazy conspiracies that are all too real... these are from just today...

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndal/pr/social-security-administrative-law-judge-sentenced-prison-accepting-sexual-gratuity

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/owner-new-england-compounding-center-convicted-racketeering-leading-nationwide-fungal

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/former-oil-company-president-charged-orchestrating-30-million-stock-manipulation-scheme

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-fbi-contractor-pleads-guilty-making-false-statements-investigators

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/zte-corporation-pleads-guilty-violating-us-sanctions-sending-us-origin-items-iran

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/chicago-chiropractor-indicted-allegedly-billing-10-million-medicare-and-private

And FBI Vault tweeted this yesterday...

https://twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault/status/844292572583358464

Hmmmmm... I wonder how that "unrelated case" is coming along... I don't like to leave my dear Wiener hanging.

[–]creq[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Those are conspiracies yes, but not exactly theories. I could go read each one of those and somehow try to figure out how they're all actually related to John Podesta sure but doesn't that just put me right back in the same head space this sub is already in?

Is there anyone else out there interested in taking something strange they see occurring in the world or even online (like this place) and using game theory in an attempt to uncover something going on that's very clever yet sinister? idk

[–]Ninjakick666 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm all about the Glass Bead Game... read the DOJ article on the FBI contractor and try to figure out if he is as Russian as he sounds... and what senior DOE official he was working with... and what other things did he do with his Top Secret clearance for money.

[–]creq[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm good. I'd rather focus on larger ticket items as opposed to what one shady guy that is already being investigated by the DOJ. A conspiracy theory maybe, but his action wouldn't have a significant impact on society as a whole.

[–]Ninjakick666 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay... Dept. of Energy oversees the US nuclear arsenal, radioactive waste and nuclear reactors... but I guess that doesn't have potential for impact on society as a whole.

[–]TheMadBonger 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm really not seeing the pizza spam you seem so concerned about. But I feel like discrediting any theory because you don't agree with it goes against what this sub is about. Like I don't agree with flat earth but I don't go into those threads to call them retards like half this sub does.

Maybe my understanding of the word theory is off. Have any proof to back up this claim that an ex-cia agent is solely responsible for pizzagate being rebranded? I am genuinely curious because I am always looking for my mind to be changed as I only seek the truth.

[–]creq[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm really not seeing the pizza spam you seem so concerned about.

I'm not sure how you've missed it...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/search?q=pedo+OR+pizza+&sort=top&restrict_sr=on&t=month

Have any proof to back up this claim that an ex-cia agent is solely responsible for pizzagate being rebranded? I am genuinely curious because I am always looking for my mind to be changed as I only seek the truth.

I called it out in the mod mail here. I guess you could ask other mods to confirm, but here is the article that started it all.

https://archive.fo/5NaXy

Enjoy.

Edit: Have been pointing this out for a while now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5xmofi/updating_pizzagate_to_pedogate_what_maybe_the/dejhgqm/

[–]TheMadBonger 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you organize your search by new it shows that at most 5-6 pizzagate related threads are posted a day. And most days it is only 2 or 3. Depending on if other stories remind folks of pizzagate in the first place. That is pretty organic in my opinion. Hard to constitute that as spam.

People have been trying to rebrand pizzagate since they countered it with the comet ping pong shooter and after research showed it stretched far and wide concerning the clinton foundation and its ties to human trafficking. Then dyncorp just had to ddos the pizzagate wiki, why would they do that? Just to put a laser focus on their dirty activities?

That is what broadened the definition. It started with the focus on spirit cooking, then moved onto podesta, and the weird mentions of Alefantis related to spirit cooking and his extremely weird large number of visits to the whitehouse with some being overnight. Then once focused on human trafficking it opened up dyncorp, and it turned into a crusade to stop all pedophilia in our government. Then lo and behold people remembered this has happened before, and in other countries as well.

It was just common sense to anyone that pizzagate turned out to be a horrible name easily scoffed at and demonized as "some crazy conspiracy" <--- Cia tactic by the way. Pedogate was just a natural rebranding from regular folks seeing that the name they chose wasn't gaining traction like they hoped.

So are you seriously saying that you believe pizzagate/pedogate is only about comet ping pong and the democrats? Shows a lack of research on your part big time. Do you not believe that brownstone operations exist to ensnare politicians with pedophile tastes? Epstein is theorized to be in cahoots with mossad and blackmail to control our politicians is a pretty big conspiracy in its own.. But no that is just pizzagate latching on to other conspiracies to keep living.

Even if you look at the old evidence and nothing new! There are plenty of connections even within the instagram photo's themselves. And noo not just alefantis personal instagram but the others as well.

If you want a run down of just some of the old preliminary evidence you can look at this thread I made.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/608bce/pizzagate_has_no_basis_in_reality/

It is up to you whether you look at it. But your proof is pretty weak. A alleged dhs insider = ex-cia rebranding it into pedogate? Come on dude even the pedogate hashtag was used along with twittergate once all the child porn twitter accounts were found.

[–]creq[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Okay I've refined my search.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/search?q=pedo+OR+pizza+OR+%22David+Brock%22+OR+Commet+OR+trafficking&restrict_sr=on&sort=new&t=month

340 posts in the last 31 days. That's almost 11 a fucking posts per day. It's shit posting spam by any standard that has never turned up a damn thing despite thousands upon thousands of hours of "research". We get hundred of reports calling it spam because it is. Why you would sit there and say it isn't is completely beyond me. Please, name one other topic that is spammed here more. I dare you.

[–]TheMadBonger 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ah you caught me there I didn't go far back as you. That is definitely not as organic as I thought. I mean in my opinion it is just the republican side latching on to it to sow disinfo to protect while injecting more artificial left vs right hate. No one who is still looking is still in it just for partisan goals without being paid. But people undoubtedly started because of the election hype and partisan issue.

Whether you want to get into is assange controlled opposition or legitimate is up for debate. There are some who still think something funny happened and he is playing ball now.

I appreciate your contribution. We always need to question pizzagate because a lot of bullshit got mixed into it as well. And it did turn a bit overzealous at times. They did a good job turning it into a laser focus on a weak link because of the name. Almost like it was a planned red herring to throw people off. Besides spouting off that we know they manipulate the internet doesn't seem to fix the problem.

Topic I see spammed the most here? I'd say recently pizzagate takes the cake. You just showed me that now. And the worst part about it is the discussion is very limited and not as in depth as it could be. But any interest in human trafficking whether they pick either side they are now aware and have thought about it and that could be the seed of change.

[–]creq[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think what I'm trying to convey is still lost on you. I have a feeling the people fueling this it are doing so not because they are left or right, but because they are interested in keeping folks divided and distracted. As long as they can forum slide with a topic that won't ever affect them, and get people to keep screaming "shill" at one another it's mission accomplished. If they can get useful idiots to help, all the better. In that regard T_D users are just a vulnerable yet handy group to manipulate.

[–]TheMadBonger 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well I agree with you 100% I thought that is what I meant with this.

I mean in my opinion it is just the republican side latching on to it to sow disinfo to protect while injecting more artificial left vs right hate.

But you make a convincing argument that isn't lost on folks trust me. It could very well just be a limited hang out psyop. I might of come off as a bit partisan. But I meant it in a way as they are protecting the government while stoking the false lie of left vs right. Using the topic to inflame the republican base into making it a partisan issue and further muddying the water.

If we were to show some sign of huge weakness right now. In reality the world fucking hates us. I think that is the last thread holding them all together. I hope it is all just a psy-op though. I really really do.

[–]bearhat808 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It apparently doesn't bother you enough to give up your moderator status and move on with your life. Or start your own conspiracy subreddit since you clearly have the experience to manage one.

[–]creq[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bother me? The way this is playing out fascinates me. It's always interesting to see who's hanging out in the new queue disrupting and downvoting different posts.

[–]appropriatenull 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The high powered organized child harvesting rings are a global phenomenon as real as the nose on your face.

I think the "pizzagate" designation was meant to distill it down and put the focus on the Democratic pedos in DC thus rendering it into a contentious partisan issue rather than the global non-partisan blight on humanity that it truly is.

[–]ridestraight 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I for one will help as I'm able to keep the PizzaGate handle in the spotlight!

In all my years I've never seen anything mobilize the middle masses so effectively - ever!

Sad and sick to think of it like an advertising BRAND NAME but that is exactly what happened. Recognition for an epidemic of human trafficking!

[–]paulie_purr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

With "Pedogate," you have the basic mainstreaming of Pizzagate, kind of an advertising trick. Thus every kiddie porn or prostitution sting can be given the Pedogate subtitle and become part of a grand conspiracy, strings that will inevitably prove that the original Pizzagate is real. David Brock has a heart attack he will recover from...it's real. John Podesta stubs his toe...pizzagate confirmed! You see Breitbart's tweet getting shared countless times, but you no longer see those "FBI secret codes" or "I Heart L'Enfant" images because they've been found to be fabrications or intentionally misleading, purposely promoted breadcrumbs that have, for those originally implicated, led to nothing at all. They were just the seeds to plant the thing, but they were not organic whatsoever.

One day we will learn who created Pizzagate. I think it's Roger Stone, playing out his grandest, most successful dirty trick. We no longer see his tweet about Podesta's "time in the barrel" coming soon because it's contributed to FBI investigations and shows that he had at least knowledge of the Podesta phishing thing by mid-August, a month plus before they were released via WL. Not a large jump to think he was given those emails (since they reveal nothing majorly harmful to Podesta or Clinton) in order to cook something up. And Stone, knowing all sorts of lingo from his time participating in actual sex rings and shady behaviors, latched onto the Italian food stuff and any mentions of children, building a conspiracy piece by piece. It's possible all that falsified early 4chan "evidence" was all pre-planned by Stone and associates, ready to be spread anonymously online in the run-up to the election-- then, get it onto Infowars, and presto. This would be only months following his attempt to convince several Eastern states that Bill Clinton had an illegitimate black son (who was actively being paid 40k).

My case against Stone is purely circumstantial, but not impossible. My first piece of evidence would probably be Roger Stone himself, dirty trickster supreme and ever proud of his rep and actions. Truly a remarkable man, not exactly in a positive way.

[–]creq[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stone does seem like he or someone like him could be a plausible instigator in what I see going on. Thanks for your thoughts.