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TechnologyWill the 'Digital India' campaign change the appalling status of broadband in India? (self.india)

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Broadband is horribly overpriced in India. Just look at the BSNL Tariffs for instance.

What can be done to change this?

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[–]AnIndianPatriot 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The funny thing is, the whole campaign has made no mention of improving Broadband Speeds.

[–]dejavu619India[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's kind of implied, since "Broadband Highways" are one of its pillars: http://www.cmai.asia/digitalindia/pillars/1.png

[–]dejavu619India[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Recently there was a lot of hype about BSNL raising the minimum broadband speed from 512 kbps to 2 mbps. What they didn't mention was that a minimum of 2 mbps will be provided only up till the FUP (which is quite low for almost all BSNL plans) and once the FUP has been crossed, the speed will be brought back to 512 kbps.

Here is an article that presents the true picture:

http://www.in.techradar.com/news/BSNLs-2Mbps-internet-speed-promise-is-anything-but-true/articleshow/48915262.cms

Last week BSNL also said that they would be investing around Rs. 2000 crore in improving its infrastructure. There's no point in doing all this unless it improves its pricing. Focus on quality, not just inclusivity.

[–]vibhavp01 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lolno

[–]i_am_scared_of_truth 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

You should tweet this to PM Modi, the government is very responsive on social media and Modiji personally monitors his twitter.

Have some faith in him and his hard work instead of publicly criticizing our great country.

[–]dejavu619India[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How do we address issues and bring them to light if there's no criticism? India has the slowest average broadband speed in Asia.

I have sent a tweet to him as well as to Digital India. When the condition is pathetic in India's own "tech city" Bangalore, I'm eager to see how things will change.

[–]IWillNotLie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Wouldn't it be better to tweet this to the IT minister guy? I mean, Modi's good and all, but the guy doesn't use Internet enough to understand the value of fast Internet as much as the IT guy, who even understands the importance of net neutrality. The IT guy has been fairly supportive of the netizens so far, hasn't he?

[–]dejavu619India[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tweeted the same to Ravi Shankar Prasad as well.

[–]i_am_scared_of_truth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean, Modi's good and all, but the guy doesn't use Internet enough to understand the value of fast Internet

Anti national blasphemy! :D

[–]IWillNotLie 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Our usernames are literally enemies.

[–]bhiliyam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Randians wouldn't be happy unless they get their govt subsidized broadband internet. India is full of freeloaders.

[–]dejavu619India[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (20子コメント)

I didn't get you... Are you saying that the present condition of broadband in India is satisfactory and we are wrong to want better broadband?

[–]bhiliyam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (17子コメント)

If only you would pay for it, instead of expecting a govt handout. But I guess that is too much to expect in India.

Broadband services are good in urban areas with high density of fixed-line broadband internet subscribers.

[–]dejavu619India[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (16子コメント)

All the articles say otherwise. There was a petition not less than a month back. Maybe it's you who are selectively blind. India has the lowest average broadband speed in Asia. Just Google "India broadband" and select "News".

And you're the first person to mention a "government handout" That thought hasn't even crossed my mind once.

[–]bhiliyam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (15子コメント)

All the articles say otherwise.

All the articles say what? That India doesn't have good broadband plans in metros? If they say that, they are just flat-out wrong.

And you're the first person to mention a "government handout" That thought hasn't even crossed my mind once.

Just because the thought didn't cross your mind does not mean that this is not what it is.

[–]dejavu619India[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Sure, all the articles that say so are flat out wrong. Everyone is wrong, but you. I can show you a couple of articles describing the dismal condition of broadband in India( the BSNL tariff page should speak for itself) but can you show me a couple of articles where India's broadband infrastructure is being praised?

Secondly, just because I'm complaining about services being overpriced doesn't mean you put me on one extreme of the spectrum and imply that I only want subsidies.

[–]bhiliyam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Sure, all the articles that say so are flat out wrong. Everyone is wrong, but you.

How do any of these articles contradict anything I am saying?

can you show me a couple of articles where India's broadband infrastructure is being praised?

Can you show me a couple of my sentences where I am praising India's broadband infrastructure?

Secondly, just because I'm complaining about services being overpriced doesn't mean you put me on one extreme of the spectrum and imply that I only want subsidies.

I had not put you specifically anywhere. However, if you want to government to interfere to improve broadband infrastructure, support govt making "broadband highways" or become an ISP (like the broadband subsidy programme in Andhra), then, yes, you do want govt subsidies for internet.

[–]dejavu619India[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (12子コメント)

You're the one who's saying that broadband is decent in metros whereas the articles say that the condition of broadband is dismal. Herein lies the contradiction.

And where have I said that I want government subsidies. Is it wrong to want BSNL and NIXI to step up their game?

And since you've brought up AP's programme, it's providing 15 Mbps at ₹150 whereas BSNL charges more than ₹1500 for a 2 Mbps connection. Why should we put up with such absurd tariffs.

You say that I'm demanding subsidies, bring in some fancy word "randian" - I don't even know what that means, call Indians freeloaders for wanting services that justify the tariffs. Why don't you put forward what your argument really is without name calling and we can look up the facts?

[–]bhiliyam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (11子コメント)

You're the one who's saying that broadband is decent in metros whereas the articles say that the condition of broadband is dismal. Herein lies the contradiction.

No, there doesn't lie any contradiction there. I am saying that broadband is good in metros, where there is high density of subscribers. Those articles say that the average broadband internet speed in India is low. Those are not contradictory statements.

Is it wrong to want BSNL and NIXI to step up their game?

And since you've brought up AP's programme, it's providing 15 Mbps at ₹150 whereas BSNL charges more than ₹1500 for a 2 Mbps connection. Why should we put up with such absurd tariffs.

Exactly you wouldn't find any price "justified" unless the govt is burning taxpayer money to keep the price artificially low (that is, it is subsidized).

randian

Randian is just what people of /r/india call themselves.

[–]dejavu619India[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Not just the articles which say that the average broadband speed is the lowest, there are others which criticise the pricing and infrastructure as a whole, even in metros. The petition last month wasn't without any rhyme and reason.

I wouldn't say that I don't find any price justified. You have to accept that BSNL's tariffs are over the top. Subsidies aren't the only mechanism the government can follow to bring in better prices. We're all calling for infrastructural development and proper functioning of NIXI, redefining what broadband is, etc. Nobody (here at least) wants subsidies.

[–]i_am_scared_of_truth 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Protip: check bhiliyam's flair

[–]dejavu619India[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you agree with what he says bro?

[–][deleted] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't think "DIGITAL INDIA " has anything to do with commoners'

[–]dejavu619India[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What do you mean?

[–][deleted] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean it's actually BJ Party's thing so other parties in Govt. Don't want that., like they did with the bandwidth coming from Bangladesh will be supplied to NE as there's election soon.

You know * acche logo ko acchi cheeje acchi nahi lagti*

[–]dejavu619India[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wasn't really looking for a political perspective.

Kinda wanted to discuss potential drivers for broadband development here. I read some time last year that Google is interested in introducing Google Fiber here, with pilot testing scheduled for Hyderabad? Although I don't know how much progress has been made on that front...