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| Napoleonic Era Discuss the many wars fought around the globe around the time of Napoleon. This forum is dedicated to the memory of Ben Weider and our late friend and long time ACG Staff member, Michael Brown, better known here as Post Captain. |
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24 Jan 08, 17:17
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Real Name: Mario De Losa
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Napoleon was not French!
Okay, I will brace for heavy rolls on this one; Napoleon was not French! Yes, I said it, and the truth shall set you free!!!! 
Why? Because:
1) Actual name - Napoleone Buonaparte
2) Native language - Italian
3) Family origins - Tuscan nobility, likely from around Pisa.
4) Father's name - Carlo Maria Buonaparte
5) Mother's name - Letizia Ramolino
I could cite a few more facts, but I think I am making myself clear. Now, before somebody brings up the fact that he was born in Corsica (never Corse as the French say it), and that Corsica was not part of Italy, let's please keep in mind that Italy had not yet reconstituted itself as a country, that would have to wait until 1870.
So, now that I have stirred up the pot, please, let me hear from you.
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24 Jan 08, 19:07
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He was legally because Corsica was already a french island one year before his birth.
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24 Jan 08, 20:19
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He lived closer to Italy but was a French citizen by law.
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24 Jan 08, 20:44
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don't feel bad Chief i forgot the Sudan had a coast line.
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24 Jan 08, 21:00
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Real Name: Tony
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Good job, Napoleon was not of French but of Italian ancestry, that is correct, no one (today) disputes that.
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24 Jan 08, 21:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Centrix Vigilis
don't feel bad Chief i forgot the Sudan had a coast line.
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Sudan had a coastline?
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24 Jan 08, 21:38
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And Churchill had an American mother. What's your point?
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24 Jan 08, 22:11
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He lived most of his adult life in France, considered himself French, and was emperor of France, so I'm going to go ahead and chalk him up as French.
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24 Jan 08, 22:46
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And Nelson was not gay.
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24 Jan 08, 23:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cambronnne
And Nelson was not gay.
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He did like pickles!
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24 Jan 08, 23:18
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Nor was Hitler German
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24 Jan 08, 23:38
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But Napoleon was French. I think somebody needs to do his homework.
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24 Jan 08, 23:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boaty
Nor was Hitler German
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But did he like pickels?
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25 Jan 08, 00:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bass_man86
Okay, I will brace for heavy rolls on this one; Napoleon was not French! Yes, I said it, and the truth shall set you free!!!!
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So, now that I have stirred up the pot, please, let me hear from you.
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Well, you have to define what is meant by being "French". If you mean born in the country proper... then yes, he was not French. However, I think that he was "French" in most other cultural and historical contexts.
Can one be an American without being born in the United States? (Yes, I know there are other pretend countries near by that can claim to be "Americas" as well, by virtue of having their borders on a continent that ends with "___ America"... but I'm using "American" in the sense used by those people who hate Americans.) :)
Sure.
Is the foreign citizen who enlists in the US military any less "American" than his squad-mate who was born in Brooklyn? Nah.
You see where I'm going with that. :)
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25 Jan 08, 00:46
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Real Name: Mario De Losa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piccolo
He was legally because Corsica was already a french island one year before his birth.
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Sorry Piccolo, I can't buy it. My kid was born overseas, but he still holds an American passport.
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