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White House budget director Mick Mulvaney just keeps bringing the hits — we have a feeling the smiling sociopath will get a lot of attention here at Yr wonkette, at least until police start getting complaints about the smells and muffled cries for help coming from his house’s crawlspace. After last week’s brilliant observation that we simply can’t justify federal spending on Meals on Wheels, which has utterly failed at making poor old people not old or poor any more, Mulvaney brought us another dispatch from the weird parallel dimension he calls home. Oh, sure, we all remember how Donald Trump promised — way back in January — that his replacement for the Affordable Care Act would definitely provide “insurance for everybody.” But in reality, it turns out that health care is actually really complicated, which nobody knew, so it turns out that really covering everybody is impossible, because to do that, you’d have to start threatening people with some sort of penalty if they didn’t have insurance. And that’s simply UNPOSSIBLE in a free country, because it would require throwing people in jail if they’re uninsured, as Mulvaney explained Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation”:

Well by god, Mick Mulvaney believes in freedom, not government mandates!

The only way to have universal care, if you stop to think about it, is to force people to buy it under penalty of law […] What you’ve got now is, we’re forcing people to buy it under ObamaCare under penalty of law, and people are still looking for a way not to buy it. So clearly the government mandate doesn’t work. The better process, the better function, is exactly what we’re trying to do now, which is to encourage people and enable them to buy a policy they want and can afford.

How true this is! TrumpDoesn’tCare does mandate 30% higher premiums for anyone who doesn’t have insurance for two consecutive months. And it makes affording health insurance far less affordable. But that’s a private health insurance incentive, not a mandate, so it’s not really a penalty, now is it? Mulvaney explains why government mandates simply don’t work, and can’t work:

The only way to get truly universal care is to throw people in jail if they don’t have it. And we are not going to do that.

He’s so very principled! Far more principled than all the states which require drivers to have car insurance, and fine people who drive without it — or even jail repeat offenders.

If only there were some way to ensure that everyone had healthcare without throwing anyone in jail! As Jonathan Chait points out, all you have to do is look at Europe and Canada and every other industrialized democracy in the world, where the prisons

are filled with the uninsured. There is literally no other way to ensure that people who can’t afford medical care have access to it. So that’s why Republicans have no choice but to enact a huge cut to health-coverage subsidies to finance a huge tax cut for the rich.

Still, apart from universal single-payer systems, which turn entire countries into socialist prisons where people have higher life expectancy, no bankruptcies due to hospital bills, better access to care, and better overall health, Mulvaney does have one point: One of the few places in America where a basic level of health care is an absolute right is in our prisons, thanks to court decisions holding that not providing health care to inmates constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. (And let’s not even get into the sad fact that prisons are where we now warehouse poor people with severe mental illnesses.)

You may remember the case of Richard James Verone, who in 2011 robbed a bank in North Carolina in the hope that he could at least get treatment for a growth on his chest and two ruptured disks in his back. Unfortunately, since Verone handed the teller a note demanding one dollar, and then sat down to wait for police, he was only convicted of the much lesser charge of “larceny from a person,” and didn’t end up getting the longer imprisonment — and health care — he was looking for.

So if ACA repeal passes and throws 24 million people off their insurance, there’s a strategy for folks to consider, going forward. Just be sure to do your research and find a nonviolent crime that’ll send you to federal prison long enough for what ails you.

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  • MynameisBlarney

    Not gonna fuckin’ happen. You motherfucking fascist traitor.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Whenever the human cost of their sociopathy was brought up, he just blandly said he’s just “a numbers guy” so why should he answer those questions? After all, to him, we’re all just lines on a spreadsheet. And if a few of those lines happen to get erased in the name of “balancing the books”, well that’s just accounting. It happens.

  • One of the few places in America where a basic level of health care is an absolute right is in our prisons, thanks to court decisions holding that not providing health care to inmates constitutes cruel and unusual punishment.

    Oh, don’t worry, TrumpCourt will take care of this and bring health care freedom to our jails.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      “I’m sure the original intent of that Amendment was to prevent things like horsewhipping or the Iron Maiden” – Associate Justice Samuel Alito (probably)

    • Creepoman

      They can work off the bill at $1.25/hr.

  • Zonath

    Maybe we can just bring back debtors’ prisons, since that way the Poors can get their government-mandated healthcare and can work as slave labor to pay the government back. It’s a win-win!

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Owe my soul to the company store?

      • Jeffocaster in the desert

        Well, the coal jobs are COMING BACK! So the idea of company stores and towns will be real!!!!

    • WotsAllThisThen

      But then when people go bankrupt from their medical bills, they’ll just get free health care in prison, and that’s socialism! That’s what they do in Europe and Japan! And do you want the Kaiser and Tojo walking into the ladies room just because they’re wearing ladies’ clothes?

    • Creepoman

      So much winning! Too bad TrumpCare won’t cover the sickness you get from the relentless winning.

  • Creepoman

    So, lethal injections are covered by TrumpCare. Got it.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • WotsAllThisThen

      And yet the headline on fox news yesterday was: NO COLLUSION

      • schmannity

        Tomorrow’s headline: NO ONE INDICTED TODAY!

    • schmannity

      Rotten Tomatoes: Please throw.

    • laineypc

      Impeach the bastard.

    • Hardly Ideal

      Trump now seems desperate, childish, and vulnerable.
      Conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin

      …what, you mean like just now? Where the fuck have you been all this time?

  • memzilla Ω
    • Riley Whodat Venable

      WWJD = Who Wants Jack Daniels?

      • data_ninja

        That’s my line! GMTA and all that…

  • schmannity

    The bestest peeps!

  • Darlene Underdahl

    Based on comments here and other conversations, I fear there may be a movement to grab healthy men on any excuse and hold them. If the immigrants are gone, someone has to do the field work. I know that sounds conspiratorial, but I didn’t expect Hillary to lose either.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      It doesn’t seem as far-fetched as it used to. Prison labor is definitely a thing being exploited by the new breed of for-profit prison centers.

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        Watch The 13th by Ava Duvernay. It’s not only possible, it’s written into the fucking Constitution.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      That could be the next step in my presumption of where this is all heading:
      1. Anger the world with Muslim bans and protectionist horseshit.
      2. Cause a massive domestic terrorism incident on American soil.
      3. Martial law declaration (which we all know is Donnie’s goal).
      4. Mass conscription of able-bodied persons to be tasked by the gubmint.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        #4 might finally be the bridge too far for Drumpf voters. Even the Archie Bunker fuckwads I grew up around in rural MN will realize that that’s the REAL form of the government “overreach” they’re always bitching about.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    From health care to education to every other fucking detail of life, the conservative ideological sell is to give us all “choice”. Listen, conservatives, y’all bellyache because the tax code is too complicated yet, you can file your taxes at least three ways with multiple schedules and you hate that, right? Having so much choice?

    I’m betting most folks of modest means don’t want choices, they simply want a thoughtful single payer system where the political process responds to their needs and not a corporate oligopoly.

    • laineypc

      “the conservative ideological sell is to give us all “choice””–with one notable exception….

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    The Muslim Laptop Ban is even more stupid than we thought: Fliers will be banned from bringing electronic devices larger than a cellular phone aboard the plane with them, and must instead include objects like laptops, tablets and cameras in checked luggage.

    Because bombs in the luggage compartment are no problem.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Personally, I appreciate the way my sensitive electronics are handled.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9b94fc10b4c4f6fbd4e44f0f49f5765a6e2dff7439dc5045977512c2278f7607.gif

      • Doug Langley

        You just gotta remember to throw it on the “Fragile” pile.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      They’re hoping that the baggage handlers put the luggage with the bombs on a flight to Not America.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        Or take the bombs disguised as laptops home with them.

    • Nounverb911

      The UK just joined the ban according to Bloomberg.

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        The infection is spreading, doctor!

    • BoatOfVelociraptors

      Any way at all to pick on a minority.

      • Persistent Demme

        And make more room for (other people’s) carry-ons.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      On international flights? Fuck’s sake. If he can’t ban Muslims, Trump is going to bore them to death.

      Plus, I would never trust my camera to baggage handlers. Never. Tell me this isn’t a big fuck you to states where tourists like to go.

  • Crank Tango

    I remember the good old days, when the government didn’t force me to get vaccinated, go to school, register for the draft, buy car insurance, pay taxes, put on clothes, not smoke weed…

  • msanthropesmr

    But socialist healthcare has completely wrecked the economies of Australia, Germany and Japan!!!!

    • Jeffocaster in the desert

      eh, banana republics…….tell your brother happy birthday

    • MynameisBlarney

      And Norway, also, too;

    • ManchuCandidate

      The happiest nations are ones where Healthcare is not used as a weapon by the 1%.

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    The only way to get truly universal care is to throw people in jail if they don’t have it.

    Practically every other nation in the developed world has people in jail for not having healthcare now? Thanks for the update!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d28b8ef2486bb344e0cd61fbd01fad313e4412720497c9f95a47daf146361009.jpg

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      If you call living in a little village in France where they close the stores on Sundays and you can’t buy milk anywhere that day, then yes, it’s just like a friggin’ prison here.

      • tomamitai

        Can you buy wine on Sundays there?

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          No, everything is closed on Sundays. Actually, that’s not completely true, because there are a small handful of the grocery stores (and the butcher) that cater to all of the folks that are buying supplies host their big Sunday family get-togethers. And the grocery will certainly sell wine. So you can get it in the morning, but not after they all close at noon.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Oh, Oman has universal healthcare. Better get them on that Muslim ban list.

  • canes_pugnaces

    At the end of the day, a good percentage of this venal shit is going to pass. Everyone but the top 15% will be worse off. It’ll be great, and guess whose fault: Obama’s, that’s who. And then the Red Statetariat will vote for some more Republicans who can degrade their lives even more. On and on…

    • mancityRed6

      they’ll believe the lies of obstruction by the democrats, last minute riders and so forth and vote red again in order to “fix it”

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        And any Republican who doesn’t toe the line has already been told by Trump “We’ll fix your wagon.”
        Rep. Mark Amodei (R-NV), who has stated he can’t support the AHCA in it’s current form, has already drawn a primary challenger for 2018 who feels he isn’t sufficiently subservient to Trump. Granted it’s perennial gadfly Sharron Angle, but the fact remains they’re going to target “disloyal” party members.

        • Amy!

          Good. If they get crazy enough, then moderate-to-conservative democrats in those otherwise-red districts may have a look-in. Not great that they’re likely to be moderate-to-conservative, but good that they won’t be in fear of being primaried from the right, and are likely to be more amenable to actually governing.

          The fact that Trump is fucking certifiable is potentially good news for blue campaigns in red states.

  • ManchuCandidate

    In Trump’s America… both health and care do not mean what they are supposed to mean.

  • Jeffocaster in the desert

    So, I get it. Make Medicare universal.

    • tomamitai

      Even for Klingons?

      • Jeffocaster in the desert

        Especially for Klingons. Battle wounds and such…..

  • Nounverb911
    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      He really is the Marie Antoinette of our generation, but with less class.

      • TakingAmes

        Melania’s latest: “dovolite, da jedo potico.”

        • tomamitai

          Pecivo smo kot?

      • Creepoman

        He does not have the cakes we like.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        And more of a head.

  • Crystalclear12

    Can we have our old swamp back? They were less. . . evil. . . psychotic?

  • memzilla Ω

    Mulvaney’s face has the smile of someone who was just told that Mr. Potter had bought up the last mortgage and the bulldozers were scheduled to roll at 9AM sharp.
    . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f0342b510302a95f92443582ab52accb7747881e64298ed5c5330613cdadc39.jpg

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Just be sure to do your research and find a nonviolent crime that’ll send you to federal prison long enough for what ails you.

    Well, there are those new anti-protesting laws that some states are trying to pass–do those count? If so, I’m in!

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Probably too misdemeanor-y. You’re looking for at least a felony, here.

    • BoziSpicer

      Won’t be a federal prison you get to go to, will be one of those corporation-owned prisons. Probably will not receive any healthcare.

  • BadKitty904

    OT: Just a reminder, Wonklings…

    Books Can Take You Places Donald Trump Doesn’t Want You to Go
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/opinion/sunday/books-can-take-you-places-donald-trump-doesnt-want-you-to-go.html

  • FlownΩver

    We’re forcing people not to buy drugs under penalty of law (well, I’m some states, anyway) and people are still looking for a way to buy drugs. So clearly the government prohibition doesn’t work.

    Q.E. fucking D!

  • ariel_gee_398

    He’s right, you know – we started throwing people in prison and killing them for murdering people, and they just stopped doing it all together. Deterrence works.

  • Nounverb911
  • Oblios_Cap

    The only way to get truly universal care is to throw people in jail

    Those poor countries overseas! All of their people are in jail, except for the ones who have universal care.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    I wish I could say that my state enforces the existing laws that require people to have car insurance, but it doesn’t. The woman whose car hit a friend’s motorcycle, leaving him in a wheelchair with an amputated leg, no job, and no health insurance, could not produce proof of insurance at the time of the accident, because she didn’t have any. The cop charged her with “failure to provide proof of insurance” and she was given a traffic court date two months in the future. The fine is $500, but she has a history of paying court fines with rubber checks, so this is no obstacle for her. She didn’t show up for her court date. Warrant was issued for her arrest for failure to appear. They couldn’t find her because she had moved and quit her job, but they didn’t look very hard, as I found her with a 10-minute Google search. They now tell me there is nothing more they can do, they just have to wait until she gets into another accident, and then they can arrest her. They will then bail her out, and then she will move again and fail to appear in court again, and this cycle will continue until she kills someone. I did some research, and it seems that 15% of the drivers in my state do not have car insurance. One of my redneck relatives hasn’t had any for 25 years.

    I read somewhere that in the UK, the police have the power to seize, and even destroy, a vehicle that’s being driven without insurance.

    • canes_pugnaces

      She shouldn’t try that in NYS.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      We used to have something in Colorado called no-fault insurance. When I was sent to the hospital by a drunk driver who had no insurance or license or anything, my insurance company paid all my medical costs and a cash payment for my loss of work and suffering. A few years later, the Colorado GOP got their way and got rid of no-fault. So now, you have to go through a private attorney to try to get money from stone-dead vehicular criminals. Because freedom.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        We have “uninsured motorist” coverage, which is required by law, and “under-insured motorist” coverage, which is not, but the minimum coverages for both are something like $25,000. Most people go with the minimums, as my friend did. But one day in an ICU cost him $10,000, and he was there for a week. His prosthetic leg cost $30,000. His maximum insurance payout was $50,000. The legal insurance minimums have not kept pace with medical costs.

    • Clyde Barrow

      We do things a little different here in “Commiefornia”. Here, we allow undocumented immigrants to get their licences, which makes it easier to get insurance, which in turn drastically lowers the uninsured rates. No insurance? $1000 fine and possible car impoundment. Most of the uninsured are natives who have convinced themselves that they are great drivers, or that requiring insurance by law is government overreach.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Also if you’re convicted of drunk driving, but… A year or so back, there was a court case in my local paper where the lawyer for the driver convicted of having a blood alcohol count five times over the limit argued that he shouldn’t have his car crushed as it was an expensive one. FFS.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        True – the state should sell the car and keep the proceeds.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          He actually meant that the driver should keep the car. But I agree with what you say. Either that or make him watch the car being crushed.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I say crush the car with him in it. Maybe his lawyer too. I loathe irresponsible drivers. They have ruined the lives not only of several friends, but also very close relatives, and all their family members were permanently affected as well.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Ha! Clever lawyer. Did the argument work?

        This woman already had 3 traffic offenses PLUS a DUI PLUS two previous arrests for failure to appear PLUS two arrests for paying fines with rubber checks on her record. IF they had impounded her car until her court date, I bet you she would have shown up. At the very least, she wouldn’t be driving around town endangering people.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          I think it did. Which really pisses me off.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Well, the judges and prosecuting attorneys are mostly rich white guys with expensive cars, so they probably thought the lawyer had a good point.

          • Ghenghis McCann

            But I’m talking about Scotland, where they aren’t as rich and seldom have trophy wives. They probably would like the expensive car though.

      • tomamitai

        “Affluenza teen” is back in the news, looking to get released from jail. He doesn’t want to serve the two year sentence he got for violating his original ten year probation sentence for killing four people while driving drunk. Damn but it’s good to be rich in America, where only the poors have to do time for their crimes!

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      NY will seize the car. You get it back when you show up with insurance papers. Of course, the weasels make no premium payments, and let the policy expire. Nothing short of jail time has any effect on them.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Very true. My redneck relative buys insurance 1 month before his car plates expire, and cancels it immediately afterwards. He’s been doing this for 25 years. There are supposed to be systems in place to stop this, but either the insurance companies aren’t doing their job, or the state isn’t doing their job, or both. The state made the situation even worse by moving from a system that required you to renew car plates every year, to a 2-year system.

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          I think NYS now gets notified when a policy is canceled. Not sure what they do about it, though. They could put the plates on the cops’ computers; they drive around with plate-reading cameras, and know all about everyone around them in real time. Cool tech, but it is a bit creepy. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2011/04/12/nyregion/PLATES/PLATES-jumbo.jpg

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Missouri is SUPPOSED to be notified when a policy is canceled, or when someone applies for a policy without being able to show continuous coverage, but something is wrong somewhere because nothing is ever done in either case. Our cops have plate-reading cameras too, but the only case I know of personally involved the cops mis-identifying a 60-yr-old co-worker, a white-haired, plump, church-going grandmother, as a slim, red-haired, single 30-yr-old woman from a nearby county with multiple arrests for bouncing checks, who had stolen the coworker’s identity and bounced a few more. They marched into our office and arrested said grandmother, handcuffing her and taking her to jail. Our corporate attorney got her out in a few hours, but the cops made a STUPID mistake. Makes me wonder how often they do this.

          • tomamitai

            That’s awful! Another thing they do is go to old addresses they have on file for fugitives and do “dynamic entries” before they find out that the guy they want isn’t there. I read of one case where a man came home to find the lock on his door busted and his kitten “accidentally” stomped to death by cops looking for a guy who hadn’t lived there for many years! I don’t think he ever got any compensation, not even an apology.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Very true. They look at the address on the driver’s license, which might be 5 years old, and if the driver says “Yep, I live there” they don’t investigate further.

            Then there are the GPS fuck-ups, like the guy who came home from work and found the city had torn down his house, even though the house number on the mailbox and the front door were not the house that GPS said it was. The correct house was right across the street.

          • BearDeLaOursistance

            Concentrating on matters where people actually get hurt? You commie. That would cut into their precious Stop And Frisk Teh Blahs time.

  • schmannity

    Time for the federal budget to be balanced. What a state puts into the federal coffers, it receives in benefits. Time for Red States to be free of the “Democratic Plantation” and pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

    • Pilotshark

      to bad those boot straps are connected to the Democratic Plantation.

    • Persistent Demme

      Sorry, Red State Wonkers, but as a Californian, (6th largest economy in the world), I have to agree with schmannity.
      Think of it as an economic Calexit.

      • Jgb979

        California can’t leave unless the coasts can join it (minus a Carolina or two).

      • tomamitai

        Sorry, you guys don’t get off so easy, you’ve got to help fix the rest of the country; One Nation, Indivisible! Besides, it’s only fair, the feds stole that land from the Mexicans and the Indians for everybody!

        • Persistent Demme

          But I like being able to look my neighbors in the eye!

    • Shibusa

      Particularly all the patriotic ranchers and farmers who have become so expert at farming the mailbox for government subsidies.

  • Nounverb911

    But it’s still okay for donnie to spend $3M a weekend to not play golf at MAL?

  • Lefty Frizzell

    Some laws get broken, so why have any?

    What a reductionist cock.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    This guy reminds me of Bob’s boss in The Incredibles. “How about our stockholders, Bob? Huh? Who’s looking out for them?”

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      “Tell me how you’re keeping Insuricare in the black! Tell me how that’s *possible* with you writing checks to every Harry Hardluck and Sally Sobstory that gives you a phone call!”

  • Nounverb911

    And how much does it cost to ship 100 secret service agents to Aspen for spring break?
    https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/844155621754785793

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Why the fuck should they have a “spring break”???

      • Lance Thrustwell

        To create the impression that they actually work for a living.

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          People who actually work for a living don’t have “spring break”. Beer-swilling frat boys have “spring break.”

          • PubOption

            We are talking about Eric and Donald Junior.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        Hey, that coke isn’t going to get snorted off that hookers ass by itself.

      • tomamitai

        Yeah, aren’t they supposed to say “Easter vacation” now, and not that wimpy inclusive pc phrase “Spring Break”?

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        Agreed. It’s the main structural members that need to break. Votes, &c.

    • Jenny

      Ugh gross. The entire family is gross.

    • Resistance Fighter MausFeet

      Fuck these fucks. Except the small children, who have no idea what’s going on really. Sorry about your family small kids!

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      How do they even find places to house 100 Secret Service agents in teeny little Aspen? That has the sound of something that has the potential to leave a lot of normal folks with last minute cancellations when their carefully booked reservations are tossed in favor of (LOL) “national security.”

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      Oh God. If only Hunter S. Thompson were still with us.

  • Oblios_Cap

    I really don’t see the problem with the government trying to help make everybody’s life better. That’s why I’ll never be a Republican. And that’s too bad, because I really could get into a decent party with “pub” in its name.

    • tomamitai

      I prefer the one with “emo” in its name, because they’re more likely to “give” crippled olds like me enough money to occasionally visit a pub.

    • Lord Jim

      “Promote the general welfare”. I’ll be surprised if Republicans don’t try to have that stricken from the Preamble.

  • Deadpool

    Okay…remind me again why the US adopting a similar healthcare system to Europe or Canada is a bad thing? Because the way wingnuts talk about it you’d think we want to turn America into the Soviet Union or something.

    • Jenny

      I think healthcare is included in the Russian constitution. I doubt there would be healthcare at all for the Russians if the oligarchs had their way too.

    • Clyde Barrow

      Because the middleman, aka insurance companies, won’t get their 40% cut from your misfortune. How un-American is that!

      • onedollarjuana

        Just read an article today in the WSJ about things we must do to save the private health insurance industry. As if that’sthe only option available.

        • Clyde Barrow

          That’s pretty rich, saving an industry who’s profits and executive salaries are at an all time high. But then again, there are plenty of poor people in America who are stupid enough to believe that saving insurance companies are a priority.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      I mean… yeah. That’s literally what they think.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Because Reagan said government is bad and Reagan is a saint.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        Yeah you right. Reagan said Medicare was Communism.

        • onedollarjuana

          Patron saint of traitors?

      • Lord Jim

        Government is bad. Make me leader of the government and let me govern a few years.

    • Claire

      Because if we proceed from the postulate that America is the Bestest and nobody anywhere can possibly do anything better than we can, it becomes something akin to treason to suggest that we might have anything to learn from another country’s (Not-American and therefore by definition inferior) systems.

      • tomamitai

        To be fair, we aren’t above adopting some “good” ideas from foreigners, like putting unwanted people into “camps”.

        • PubOption

          Also, too, making rocket engines.

    • FlownΩver

      Because fuck you I’m rich is why.

      • Lord Jim

        It doesn’t matter at all that I won’t even notice the pittance transferred from me and that it would make all the difference in the world to you. What part of IT’S MINE do you not understand you fucking moocher?!

    • Thaumaturgist

      Look at it this way. We can take the good parts like “each according to his abilities,” supplemented with FEMA camps for the lazy and fakers, and economize here and there on the weak “each according to his needs” shit.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    You know Congress is just itching to get to work to determine which crimes deserve what level of health care.

  • tapp_my_wire,please

    I shot a man in Reno
    Just to get that penitentiary chemo …

    • FlownΩver

      But they grabbed the wrong chemicals off the shelf.

      Uh oh, spaghettios!

  • Rick Hill

    “The only way to get truly universal care is to throw people in jail if they don’t have it. And we are not going to do that.”

    “At least not until we have the courts and throw out the requirement for prisons to pay for health care. Then it’s “Fill those for profit prison bunks, Bayubee!””

  • Michael R
  • Lizzietish81

    I’m so glad my brother is in MA and so won’t lose his insurance.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    I’m glad I get my insurance through my employer. Oh wait, fuck, I’m a public school teacher. Guess I’m fucked either way.

    • Nounverb911

      Better get ready for DeVosdontcare.

    • Clyde Barrow

      Betsy DeVos has a program for you. Become salesperson of the month for Amway, and you get a free first aid kit!

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        And a chalkboard eraser!

        • Clyde Barrow

          A month’s supply of White-out to help you sniff your problems away.

          • WotsAllThisThen

            If Bob Hope can do it, so can you!

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        Who needs that overpriced big-name amoxicillin when you can get Amwaycillin at 1/3 of the price? Sure, it’s just Rush Limbaugh’s dryer lint compressed into pill form… but all the clinical studies against this are promoted by Big Corporations with an ax to grind. Which we’re totally not one of. We’re Independent Business Owners!!1!

  • tapp_my_wire,please

    License plate making is a low paying, boring job, but the benefits are good

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      Three hots and a cot. And a warm place to crap.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        Not quite Earl Butz levels of satisfaction… but one out of three ain’t bad.

        • Riley Whodat Venable

          Somebody got the reference. :-)

  • Nounverb911
  • Riley Whodat Venable

    You laugh, but the biggest provider of services to the Chronically Mentally Ill is the criminal justice system.
    If you run out of meds it may take two months to get an appointment at a Community Mental Health Clinic. But if you urinate on a cop car you will get a Mental Health Screening in 24 hours, and likely have meds in 72.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      We can all thank deinstitutionalization for that, and harken back to the halcyon days of when Republican worked with Democrat, and Reagan with Tip O’Neil, to dump the mentally ill on the streets in a spirit of bipartisanship.

      Wait, why do we refer to that time nostalgically, again?

      • Jonny On Maui

        If we didn’t free the loons then there wouldn’t be one occupying the White House today.

        • tomamitai

          Rich loons have never had to worry about being sent to the snake pit.

      • marxalot

        Ah, yes, the “No Care in the Community” initiative. So humane. So fiscally responsible!

      • tomamitai

        Well, I don’t know about you, but I was younger and healthier back then, and still had a smidgen of hope for the future. I’m not sure yet if the internet and free porn make up for the loss.

        • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

          I was -6 at the time, so I got the crazy homeless people but not the sweet, sweet tax cuts. Neato.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Only if you survive your initial screening with a nervous police officer and his drawn pistol.

    • SweetDeeKat

      3 hots and a cot, plus free meds – I’m in. Peeing in 3…2…1

      • tomamitai

        Every time I hear some law-‘n-order type complaining about the prisons being “too soft”, I want to ask them if they think the guards, walls, and locks are there to keep all us moochers outside and away from the fine dining and comfortable accommodations?

        • BearDeLaOursistance

          Every time I hear some law-‘n-order type complaining about the prisons being “too soft”, I want to do something to his face that will enable me to find out for myself!

        • SweetDeeKat

          I know. Never saw anyone eager to go back for the cuisine, comfy beds, and soul-shattering isolation and abuse.

    • tomamitai

      Yeah, but if you piss off the wrong cops you may get dead.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    In order to save money, Mick Mulvaney suggests we shower with gas.

  • Next up on the Regressive’s health care agenda: restrict emergency room visits and hospitalization privileges to only those with insurance.

  • Clyde Barrow

    You know our healthcare system is in shambles when we have literal mental patients running loose in the White House. I’m pretty sure every single Trump cabinet member meets the criteria for some form of psychosis/sociopathy.

    • Rotisserie Teal

      Not sure that’s accurate. I think Rick Perry is just plain, old fashioned stupid.

    • Wild Cat

      Mental patients have more integrity.

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      Dahmer libelz.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    So “we’ll cover everybody, with better care and lower premiums” translates to “we’ll cover fewer people, with worse cover and higher premiums because, look, it’s really complicated OK? And freedom”.

    • tomamitai

      ♪ Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose,
      and we are gonna, gonna make all the poors free-ee-ee!♫

  • StlSaxist

    So, the purpose of the wall really is to keep us all in. OK…all together now:
    “We don’t need no education…”

    • BadKitty904

      In re: the GOP –

      “♪ All in all,
      They’re just some dicks with a wall…
      ♫”

      • ariel_gee_398

        “If you don’t pay for it yourself, you can’t have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you’re on public assistance?”

  • BadKitty904
    • WotsAllThisThen

      That’s what he calls his golfing buddy who has to buy the first round of drinks at the 19th Hole.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      I just knew an evil kitteh was behind the whole thing! Can we give him some fish or something and have him make this mess go away?

      • BadKitty904

        Yes. Yes, you can. I’ll give you the mailing address off-string.

        • Meccalopolis

          What kind of fish?

        • calliecallie

          If you put the mailing address on a string, the kitteh will chase that thing all day.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        I recommend a really yooge laser pointer. With votes.

  • Jonny On Maui

    All I know is that I want the same type of health insurance at the same cost as my congress critters.

    Right now I demand it!

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Whimsy to my rescue once again.

    • Hardly Ideal

      Ouch! My childhood!

  • fawkedifiknow

    At least Obamacare gave us death panels, where some pointy headed desk humper could decide to give you health care, or not. Under Trumpdon’tgiveashitCare, there are no death panels to appeal to. You just get to die. Period.

    • Thaumaturgist

      On reflection, death panels are a bureaucratic excuse to raise the cost of medical care.

  • FlownΩver

    Dude gets a bye all the way to the semifinals of the Ultimate Fuckweasel Championship.

    • tomamitai

      He’s leaped to third place on my list of most-punchable (with votes!) faces in U.S. of Америка!

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    By the time the Republicans get finished with it, the only health care we’re going to be able to afford will be ‘rub a little dirt on it’.

    • tomamitai

      For those of us who no longer have mommies to kiss our boo-boos. 😢

    • Bad Tom

      Peeing on it is actually a better strategy, medical wise.

      • single payer

        I’m all for ripping this guy’s head off and peeing down his neck………….give him a band-aid and wait to see if it heals………….

      • Darlene Underdahl

        My dad had a story about that. He was way out in the field and cut his hand on rusty metal. He was out of water and too far from the house. So he peed on it. The hand healed just fine.

    • BadKitty904

      What, you’ve got something against leeches?

      • single payer

        Leeches cost money………the new insurance policies won’t cover them………..

        • BadKitty904

          Welcome to Bartertown!!1!

      • Rotisserie Teal

        We’ve got enough blood suckers don’t you think.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        A shame we didn’t get the phrenology reports in time to keep these cretins out of office.

        • BadKitty904

          Their humours are obviously unbalanced.

          • Liberoid Ron

            Perhaps if we realigned their chakras?

    • JustDon’tSayMicrowave

      Here’s prescription for Walkitoff…

  • Thaumaturgist

    If you think you’re going to get life-saving health care in prison, in a Government-run prison, not to mention a proprietary prison, you are truly delusional.

    • tomamitai

      Yes, but there’s a slim chance your heirs may get a nice cash settlement!

  • cheetojeebus

    What the fuck is their vision of America? A fucking Hellscape where only the strongest survive? If so they are so fucked, as this punk and others like him would be the first to get shanked in his Libertarian utopia.

    • DainBramage

      You just defined Social Darwinism.

      • Sister the Resister

        I think everybody should take a little time to familiarize themselves with Kropotkin’s Mutual Aid. But then, I’m old-fashioned that way…

        And hey, not only did I find the Wiki article for reference, but some crazy old anarchists have put up an online copy of the essay collection if anyone’s interested in reading it (I bet you can find mobi and pdf files on the interwebs as well). Spoiler: turns out healthy societies rely on mutual aid, not unhealthy competition.

    • BadKitty904
      • Werewolf

        But Shillary gave a speech at Goldman Sachs!

        • Doug Langley

          What??!! Well, she’s lost my vote!

          • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

            YES! And my second and third votes too!

      • Undocumented Skwerl!

        Anyone using that thing? It’d make a great Restoration Hardware!

        • BadKitty904

          Not in the past eight years or so…

    • ariel_gee_398

      Anyone with a lick of sense knows that there are certain goods and services that are never profitable enough for private enterprise to provide without help from the government. Without the government, you don’t get roads or hospitals or electricity. The only conclusion is that these guys don’t have a lick of sense.

    • Hardly Ideal

      To borrow from Patton Oswalt, most of the tough guys I hear about on the Internet would probably find themselves chained to the hood of the lead marauder’s nitro truck with their ass hanging out, just as incentive for the other marauders to find gasoline.

  • Chadwells
  • MynameisBlarney

    Newsweek…
    Turmp would be wise to tender his resignation before he becomes “fatally wounded”*

    *their words, not mine.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028825801

  • TJ Barke

    I don’t know how much more of this madness I can take…

    • cheetojeebus

      winning…..

    • Liberoid Ron

      Bad news: they’re just getting started.

  • Jgb979

    It’s true:

    100% of the U.K. population has health care because 100% of the population is in jail.

    • marxalot

      Well, yeah, because a socialist society is a prison, see, because of how it limits individual freedom.

      • TJ Barke

        Freedom, I think we’re doing it wrong…

    • TJ Barke

      Well, the UK is a sort of island prison…

      • Jgb979

        You’re thinking of Australia 😇

        • TJ Barke

          That’s a continent prison.

          • PubOption

            Could be fixed with some Norovirus.

    • Rotisserie Teal

      That’s just math.

      • suziq

        I was told there would be no math!

    • wait. Canada is a prison? I feel pretty free and have travelled some….

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        Yes, yes it is, but it’s a really big jail with really polite prisoners and a really lenient visitation policy at the entrances.

    • theblackdog

      I thought that was Australia

  • Persistent Demme

    You could join the military for the health care.
    I think they have dental, too.

    (Of course, you could have your ass shot off in a T***p vanity war.)

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Of course, you have to be in perfect health to begin with, so there’s that….

      • Persistent Demme

        And young enough, also.

        • CogitoErgoBibo

          Bonus if you’re female, look hot naked and don’t complain too much.

  • Royal Ugly Dude

    it would require throwing people in jail if they’re uninsured

    The private prison lobby likes where this discussion is headed…

  • DerpyGurdyMan

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  • Chris Mattson

    I may WANT to buy a Ferrari, but that doesn’t mean I CAN buy a Ferrari. Two different things dumbass.

  • BadKitty904
    • rocktonsam

      he failed great bigly!

  • boyblue122

    The repub health care plan is so bad its even worse than a simple repeal

    https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/844229185321259014

    • ariel_gee_398

      Bust out Trump’s jumpsuit and the mission accomplished banner.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      You have to admit, it takes some real talent to be that bad.

      • Liberoid Ron

        A lifetime of being really, really committed to being as evil as they can be. It’s almost admirable. Almost.

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    That’s your running government like a business, goobers. If it doesn’t massage the CEO’s ego ( like military spending) or creates no shareholder value ( benefit for the wealthy), then it goes.

  • Bitter Scribe

    How many people have been “thrown in jail” for not having health insurance?

    Answer: Zero.

    The ACA only allows for a fine, and that only if you have enough income tax withheld to have a refund coming. It’s not much of a deterrent, which is why there aren’t enough healthy people in the insurance pools.

    But no matter, because this genius is going to “encourage people and enable them to buy a policy they want and can afford.”

    Hey that’s great! And if they can’t afford any of them, well, sucks to be them.

  • gamera23

    OK then, we will pay for the wall if Mexico pays for our healthcare. Deal?

  • azeyote

    i didn’t know being on medicare, medicaid, and whatever those congress critters get were felonies –

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    TrumpDon’tCare mandates 30% higher premiums for anyone who doesn’t have insurance for two consecutive months. Which people already on the edge of poverty won’t want (or be able) to pay.
    So the punishment for not being insured is . . . not being insured. That’s weapons-grade stupidity.

    • TJ Barke

      That’s sort of the republican MO. If it’s not done out of greed, it’s done out of spite, and if it’s not spite it’s done out of stupidity.

      • Jim Johnson

        The Republican Trifecta: stupid, greedy spite.

    • Shibusa

      Twice in my adult life, I’ve been without insurance for a couple of months, when I was unemployed. It was stressful enough without having to worry about paying extortion prices to get back into the insurance pool.

      • Zyxomma

        I was uninsured for decades. The ex insisted I get health insurance, but it was so expensive (pre-ACA) for such shitty coverage, I dropped it after a few months. It was a total waste of money.

        When I had an accident years ago, I paid out of pocket for an orthopedic surgeon (mine was, YAY, not a surgical case), an MRI, and several months of physical therapy. I also took twice-daily supplements (I’m an educator in holistic health, so I knew what to take) and one type of OTC TCM remedy. I bought my own TENS pack and hydrocollator so I could replicate much of the PT at home. All together, everything I spent was less expensive than an insurance policy. (Part of my insurance settlement for the accident, which occurred in a store, was $5000 reimbursement for medical expenses, which almost covered everything.) Then the ACA was passed.

        I’m now covered by Medicaid and United Health. The doctors and support staff at my clinic, which is a ten minute walk from home, are uniformly excellent. The in-network referrals have taken me to two of NYC’s top hospitals (for a colonoscopy and a breast sonogram); now I only need to get a referral to a dentist; I lost a temporary crown and a post, and have to get them replaced.

        There’s absolutely nothing wrong with me; I’m just having everything checked out before the Republicans make sure I’m once again uninsured.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    You guys, Trump’s bored with talking about health care. He wants to talk about something else, okay?
    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/844233780353290240

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Well, tax cuts to the wealthiest 1% is soooo much sexier. It’s all the rage in cocktail talk at Mar-a-Lago. No one discusses helping the poors anymore, darling. It’s simply not done.

    • boyblue122

      presidenting is soooooooo exhausting

    • Undocumented Skwerl!

      He can talk about how great he is. That’ll keep him distracted for the rest of his term.

    • Liberoid Ron

      That’s right, America. You elected a goldfish.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      He’s totally bored with being President and hates it, but Putin won’t let him quit.

  • Greyhame

    I suppose if any major medical problems strike under Trumpcare, I’ll be free once again to choose between becoming a massive financial burden on my family, or wandering off into the mountains to die alone. But my god, that Mulvaney has a punchable face!

    • Mike

      Leave it to the Germans…they have a word for that…Backpfeifengesicht

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      The mountains are gonna get awful crowded.
      “No, this is *my* spot to die alone. You need to move past the gully over there, next to those pines.”

      • VirginiaLady

        No, I’m there. The trickle of water running through it keeps my last beers cold. Keep moving!

      • Zyxomma

        What pines? When all the forests are gone, who’s going off into the mountains to die? There aren’t enough caves for everyone.

  • BearDeLaOursistance

    Their entire concept of government is A Man With A Gun. Their. Entire. Concept. They literally cannot get their heads around the idea of government functions that are performed in a civil / regulatory / “everyday” fashion, rather than by force.

    Like many with a Wonketarian cast of mind, I’ve spent years trying to parse out how it’s possible for the American right wing to have such strong authoritarian tendencies, yet at the same time want to “drown government in the bathtub”. This explains it completely.

    • TJ Barke

      Pretty much.

    • Hairstrike Alpha

      Well not to argue but their entire philosophy can be summed up as soft white supremacy that has hardened over time the more threatened white dominance has become.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      They drive on roads and bridges, relying that the other drivers are licensed, the roadways are well lit, and if they break down, a patrol officer will come to rescue them; they depend on safe airspace and safe waterways, they rely on their groceries being safe to eat, drinkable water coming out of their taps, non-poisonous medications, no melamine in their pet’s food; they know if they call 911, a firefighter or police officer will come to help them; they know their bank account is safely guaranteed by the FDIC; despite their absurd, hateful paranoia, they enjoy living in a safe, stable, secure country thanks to our mighty military, border patrol, coast guard, and customs officials.

      These are all paid for by taxes, which are completely required, with great penalties if you refuse. THAT’S HOW A FUCKING COUNTRY WORKS. They want to enjoy all the bounty of a functioning, tax-funded country, but deprive others of minimal basics. And Congress counts on their voters being slackjawed morons driven by primitive, tribal racism, unable to actually figure this out. It’s pure stupidity.

  • Mike

    I’m 100% for this bill…
    OK, I’m insured with little to no worries….but the plan doesn’t kick in for 2-4 years…so everybody is safe for a bit.
    In the meanwhile, clips from YouTube of Trump saying 50 different things that this bill is not should play well right before the mid-terms and help to secure the house or senate..
    The new congress will do the right thing and then get to work on the impeachment…see how I did that…

    PASS THIS BILL…!!!

  • Shibusa
    • Jim Johnson

      Needs more law and order.

    • PubOption

      Can NYC revoke the occupancy permit and force Melania and Barron to move to DC?

      • Liberoid Ron

        Why do you hate us, New York?
        – DC

  • Ryan Denniston

    Would libel qualify? Can I say means and untrues of Trump?

  • Undocumented Skwerl!

    I am thinking of embezzlement. This way not only do I get health insurance, I get to do time in one of those leisure prisons white males go to to work on their golf games.

  • x111e7thst

    ma che faccia da schiaffi

  • Nick Scroggs

    To quote MST3K, after reaidng this: Man, I feel sicker than when I went on the Tilt-a-Whirl ten times in a row.

    • Bill Slider

      Did you pair the tilt-a-whirl with masturbation 10 times in a row as well? Now, that’s a real thriller.

      • VirginiaLady

        You just came up with a scenario I had never imagined. I stand in awe.

        • Bill Slider

          I am not saying that I did it. That would be alternative facts, as I couldn’t handle once on a tilt-a-whirl. I’ve seen that ride and there is no way I would do it.

      • Grokenstein

        Get your tickets here! Get your tickets! Get your tickets! Get your tickets here!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO09Lm4hhxU

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    Oh fuck off John Cornhole. Until Christians start being banned from travelling into this country because they’re Christian I don’t want to hear it. Oh noes, we can’t make the state Evangelical too! Fuck you.

    Oops, wrong thread!

    • Liberoid Ron

      That’s okay, it’s not unusual for one’s rage to overflow the intended target.

  • Bill Slider

    Two adult aspirin, plus a Powerball ticket, universal health care we can afford.

  • Panika MCD

    that explains the rise in senior crimes.

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    If jail is a good place to get healthcare I volunteer the entire Trump admin to demonstrate. Lock. Them. Up.

  • rocktonsam

    this guy is truly merikkka’s newest asshole.

    • Usedtobeyellerdawg

      I think they must be having a competition. Somewhere in a back room bar, they are trying to outdo one another with who’s going to say the most outrageous thing and still get people to cheer for them.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        “Hold my beer and watch me say this on CSPAN.”

  • whitroth

    Hey, if we all went out and held up banks, think of the jobs we’d create: more lawyers, more judges, and, oh, yes, more prison jobs…. MILYUNS AND MILYUNS of them….

  • Opalescent Riddles

    This fucking guy. I don’t even want to be on the same planet. I say we vote him off.

    • Shibusa

      When he tried to help the GOP to defund Planned Parenthood in 2015, Mulvaney said, “This is not about women’s health. It’s about trafficking in pieces of dead children.” He’s a POS.

  • Shibusa

    GOP: Universal Health Care Is Our Gaol.

  • Canada has “prisons” (multiple) that are full of people who committed no crime other than being uninsured? Wow, this sociopath has come completely untethered from reality.

  • Grokenstein

    I’d much rather lock certain other people away in jail for the rest of their lives so America can have decent health care.

  • Mike

    Prison for the uninsured…??? Sounds like doubling the cost
    While they’re smashing rocks we have to pay for their healthcare …!!! Just make HC free and skip the prison part
    FIXED…!

    • Usedtobeyellerdawg

      But what about all those poor, neglected private prison CEO’s? Who’s going to go to bat for them?

  • Republicans seem to have an inexhaustible supply of tools.

    It’s exhausting.

  • Twelve

    What a god damned shit show.

  • gamera23

    45 shills AHCA.
    “President Trump was here to do what he does best: to close the deal,” Speaker of the House Paul Ryan told reporters after the meeting. “He’s all in it for the money, and we’re all in deep shit.”
    The chief executive then ran up huge contractor bills, refused to pay them, declared the country bankrupt, and ended up walking away with a profit.
    “That’s so Trump!” admired Ryan.

  • The Librarian

    “Still, apart from universal single-payer systems, which turn entire countries into socialist prisons where people have higher life expectancy, no bankruptcies due to hospital bills, better access to care, and better overall health”

    Mr. Mulvaney would do well to see Gallup’s The Happiest and Unhappiest Countries in the World (http://www.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/206468/happiest-unhappiest-countries-world.aspx) where the top 10 all have free health care. 7 of those countries are Scandinavian (US is 14)

  • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba
  • Mormos

    You know what i want and can afford (and have)? Medicaid! It works great, so how about you not fuck up the thing that got me into therapy for ptsd and vocational rehabilitation; the thing that is helping me get my life together?

    Do you need testimonials from people who the ACA has helped? Here i am. I am one of the people whose lives you are trying to ruin.

    Ugh, time to bug my congresscritter

    • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

      Thank you for sharing! A lot of us have been helped by the ACA, many of us in ways we don’t even realize.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Jail Trump, that would solve a lot of problems.

  • Jack of the Resistance Tenhet

    And now, a personal story very much related to this.

    As some of you already know, my wife and I moved to MS last year from Birmingham. That meant new insurance a all new doctors. I currently have three different doctors because my health is poor enough to be disabling. I’ve been on disability for twenty years.

    Now here’s the meat of it. My old Psychiatrist had me on what was the insanely high dose of 8mgs of Xanax A DAY. That’s been for about 215 years now. My new Psychiatrist is weaning me off the stuff because it’s not working and is insanely addictive. I’m upping my seizure meds, Neurontin, because I can literally have a seizure and die by simply coming off the Xanax. Yes, literally die on. . . the. . . spot.

    My point is that without healthcare, I would already be dead and I am not alone in that. We are told, as a nation that we have an “inalienable right” to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” “Inalienable right”. If we will die without healthcare, sell ourselves into perpetual debt to pay extreme healthcare costs and are relegated to working until we simply drop dead one day, we are being denied life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    45 said “You’re not going to have people dying in the streets!” Out of protest, I will crawl with my last bit of energy to the middle of the street to die. Screw these heartless pieces of shit and their murderous intentions.

    • Lambsendbeds

      8 fucking mg of Xanax A DAY ??? How did you function? Don’t take this the wrong way, but did your doctor get his medical degree from Trump University? Over the years I’ve clocked a lot of time in the looney bin ( hey – that’s what we patients lovingly called it) and discussed meds with a lot of people and I’ve never heard of anyone taking that much Xanax ( and I knew some seriously medicated people. Hell, I’m one of them, though anxiety isn’t really my problem, nothing that 2 mg of Ativan couldn’t handle. I’m glad you’re getting off the stuff, though the possibility of a fatal seizure sucks.

  • Keith Taylor

    Clever suggestion, but probably not such a good idea if Trump has that eight year presidency (shudder) his supporters keep whooping about, and eat your hearts out, libtards, cry cry cry. The Republicans will probably revoke that requirement for health care for convicts, and make cruel and unusual punishment okay. You developed cancer because of the additives in the food supplied in jail by cheapjack entrepreneurs with sweetheart connections? Shut up and die. You shouldn’t have committed a crime because your wife and kids were starving. (Which the average poor person’s will be, if that eight-year Trump presidency happens.)

  • CATMAN

    Back in the Dark Ages–the 90’s–the insurance mandate was put forth by the Heritage Foundation as “encouraging personal responsibility by eliminating free riders in the health system” Now, in our enlightened age, it is “forcing people to buy it under penalty of law”. What marvelous progress our Republican friends have made in political thought

  • “I mean, we can’t do anything. We just can’t do anything at all. How can we justify teaching English to West Virginians? How can you justify anything? That’s ridiculous: we can’t do anything!”

  • Lefty Wright

    One thing you can say about Ryancare, it makes the choices easier to make. Under the ACA, a 64 year old making $26,500 a year may have to budget tightly to afford the approximately $140 a month their health insurance is expected to cost in 2026. Under Ryancare, it would be closer to $1,000 a month. Since their actual paycheck will be under $2,000 a month, they really have no choice.

  • You know, my fave economic thinkers are the MMT folks (Stephanie Kelson, Mosler, Michael Hudson, Steve Keen) because they explain quite irrefutably that your taxes don’t fund a goddamn fucking thing so SHUT THE FUCK UP. http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf

  • Shawn Renee Ernoehazy

    “The only way to do do universal health care is to require people to purchase it under penalty of the law.” Is that how it works in other advanced nations? No? Also, this Mulvaney dude looks like a really bad ventriloquist puppet.

  • this country says it’s about

    WOW! What a pus bump!

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