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[–]castorfromtheva [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Hmm. There seems to be something wrong with https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ Don't use it until it calculates correctly!

[–]jmw74 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I just used that site to estimate the fee, and it's wrong. Also, electrum wallet is also giving incorrect estimates.

Oh well, I spent less than a dollar more than I needed to. Not really worth worrying about, but would be nice if these bugs were fixed.

[–]THEsolutionforbtc[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes thats why i made this post! Is bitcoinfees.21.co becoming blockchain.info Nr.2 ???

[–]BitderbergGroup [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Delayed & transaction fee FUD, has transferred to HF FUD.

What's next?

[–]THEsolutionforbtc[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Misinformaition shown on https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ are pushing the fees higher, as users are paying high fees without reason!

[–]abdada [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

BU blockchain TX spammers ran out of money.

[–]x1lclem [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

I don't think spamming is the cause of high fees.

[–]abdada [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There have been many, many, many posts detailing the spammers sending the same transaction over and over again and stuffing the mempool.

[–]luke-jrLuke Dashjr - Bitcoin Expert [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Then you're wrong.

[–]iftodaywasurlastday [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've seen the spamming. But when the mempool is so low, you would expect fees to come down marginally. I understand that the blocks are still full, but lower mempool means less competition for inclusion in the next block. What gives with the persistently high fees?

[–]flavius11 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Spammers got better at spamming. It's not just about the mempool being empty, it's about the cost of a transaction to be included in a block.

[–]Lite_Coin_Guy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

just use a wallet which calculates the fees and have fun. why is that so hard?

[–]RedRhino007 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've been watching the mempool for weeks. The fee structure has been manipulated probably by miners. They can afford to spam the network with a certain amount of high fee transactions because they will get the fees back in the block. I believe there is some miner/user collusion spamming the network increasing the baseline fee.

[–]THEsolutionforbtc[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It looks to me like https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ is also manipulating the fee structure, they still recomend to high fees but the real one is much lower as you can see here https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin

[–]smoothcoke[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This and other guys have still a lot of money to spam the network https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/60c0a94c6f1bff28f7992a1876fc20fbbc346a50482b70333afd5f35f9e3ab63

[–]THEsolutionforbtc[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes and he is paying 817.74 sat/B fees. Its too high!!! Paying high fees without reason is pushing all the fees geting higher!

Right now 100 sat/B fees are enough to get confirmed!

[–]evoorhees [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Perhaps I can shed some light on this...

Our company (ShapeShift) deals with thousands of bitcoin transactions to and from customers every day. When the mempool fills up, we literally get hundreds of failed or stuck orders as users send BTC to us from all sorts of wallets. An order can fail, for example, when we offer a Precise exchange rate, which guarantees that rate for a window of time (10 mins or so). If that window passes before we've received the BTC, then the order fails... and if the user sent her BTC and it's stuck in the mempool for two days, then we basically have an angry customer to deal with for two days until the BTC confirms and then we can issue a refund. So it's messy. We in turn have to set our own mining fee for the txs we send out.

When fees are not set "very high" then we risk a large number of these failed or delayed transactions. To improve UX, we generally need to overestimate fees, and because fees are very spiky, we end up usually paying much more in fees than we "need" to, because if we reduce the number and a spike in mempool happens, we now have 50 upset customers.

Thus, whatever you think the "right" fee is at any given time, actual businesses will often have to overestimate, charging people more in fees than they need to, in order to prevent a mess of customer support issues. If the mempool stays empty for a while, we can, with hesitation, lower the fee over time, but there is a lag.

I've written more about the Trust Cost of Bitcoin Transactions here: http://moneyandstate.com/the-true-cost-of-bitcoin-transactions/

[–]hoosier_13[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

BU does not understand inelastic demand. They need to stop talking and listen to Trace Mayer.