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[–]TheMentalist10 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (83子コメント)

Sounds interesting. What's the thinking behind this change? Do you think it will detract from subreddits if content creators are just posting to their own profiles? Could these kinds of self-posts appear on /r/all (or /r/popular)? Who moderates the threads, assuming that comments are enabled on these?

[–]HideHideHidden[S,A] 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (82子コメント)

What's the thinking behind this change? We think this will allow some of the best content creators on reddit to stay on reddit and grow.

Do you think it will detract from subreddits if content creators are just posting to their own profiles Communities will continue to be the priority for reddit and where users find the most value. We think adding a more robust profile page this will bring more interesting content creators to reddit and allow existing creators to grow. Ultimately, the goal is to add more content and spark more conversation to reddit and to encourage these users to interact with communities properly, not to divert participation from communities.

Could these kinds of self-posts appear on r/all (or r/popular)? Yes

Who moderates the threads? Assuming comments are enabled on these? The content creator will moderate the threads but can also add additional moderators to help out. Yes, comments are enabled for these threads. We want to allow redditors to engage in more conversations, not less.

[–]graaahh 107 ポイント108 ポイント  (22子コメント)

I've been going through this thread defending the idea because I actually like it quite a bit, but I do strongly disagree with user pages being able to get exposure on r/all and r/popular. This is just begging for people to get shit that wouldn't be tolerated by communities on r/all and r/popular right back on the front page again.

[–]biznatch11 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, keep them off r/popular. Perhaps they could be kept on r/all but there should be an option to filter all these self-subs with one click (so you don't have to filter them one by one).

[–]HideHideHidden[S,A] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (17子コメント)

This is why we're testing this with a small group of testers. If it looks like our users really hate their posts from surfacing on r/all or r/popular, we can address the concern quickly and find a solution without a huge impact to the rest of Reddit.

[–]graaahh 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm less concerned with whether the test users like their things showing up on r/all or r/popular, and more concerned with how the other users of reddit will like seeing those things there. Allowing usersubs to show on those pages doesn't add much to the general user experience, and it has the potential to hurt it in a few different ways:

  1. People who are active on quarantined subreddits that do not show up on r/all and r/popular posting things that should not be shown to the wider reddit community, and getting them highly upvoted on the usersub in order to bypass that restriction.

  2. People posting spam on usersubs in order to get it shown on the front page subs.

  3. Further front page sub domination by power users.

[–]ScreamingAmish 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yes, yes, and yes. While I favor the overall idea, including these posts on r/all and r/popular is a spammer's dream. I study SEO ( both white hat and black hat ) and Reddit will be overwhelmed with zombie accounts upvoting some random Redditor's spammy post to bypass community filters and Reddit's ad system. Mark my words.

[–]canipaybycheck 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Won't this encourage power users, so to speak? Do you know that power users killed Digg?

[–]rottedzombie 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Away from the comments, then, who will potentially review the content posted by individuals? Communities have moderator teams to that end that are specifically in place to act quickly. Will the admin team review and potentially remove posts if they violate sitewide rules? What kind of response time could we expect if something's not particularly egregious but is still bad, given your already considerable duties?

[–]t0talnonsense 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (12子コメント)

It looks like, generally, this is intended to take the place of personal subreddits. In those subs, who was doing what you asked? The content creators who ran their own little sub without any other mods. The personal page is going to work the same way, while making that content more readily visible to anyone the visits a person's profile page.

[–]HideHideHidden[S,A] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yup. Have you been listening in on our conference calls?

[–]t0talnonsense 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (3子コメント)

...no comment. You guys should really spring for a new mic for /u/powerlanguage though.

[–]rottedzombie 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

But, to my question: will you guys be the ones enforcing Reddit's rules on these posts that individuals create, or if the comment threads on these individuals' posts begin to violate sitewide rules without action by the content creator?

(Edited for clarification)

[–]ShaneH7646 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (19子コメント)

This is going to be abused by r/the_donald

[–]lanismycousin 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Also going to be abused by spammers.

Who is going to actually moderate these submissions when they are spam? Will the admins actually do anything when they are already overworked/understaffed? If we see stuff like this that is straight up rule breaking and/or illegal, who will deal with it? Can we filter this shit from r/all, I really don't see too many case where i would care about somebody talking/promoting their own shit?

[–]falconbox 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's going to be heavily abused. People will now be more inclined to just upvote anything based on the user who submitted it, rather than the content itself.

[–]astrawnomore 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or by anyone. That's a good point.

[–]IIHURRlCANEII 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Showing up on /r/all, now that's intriguing...

[–]DaEvil1 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can I ask about the growing part? Like is there going to be a way to find original content on user pages in an organic way? Like subreddits in general have a problem with promotion within reddit where you basically need to get your subreddit referenced in popular comments to get that traction going, and that method works for a certain subset of subreddits, but not so much for others (easily digestible subs like meme subs can easily do this, while more specialized subs have to rely on constant mentions on more niche places).

When it comes to users, I see it going a similar way. /u/EditingAndLayout for instance wont have a problem getting word out because they're already popular and their content is easily digestible while someone looking to do more obscure and/or in depth stuff are going to have a harder time. I mean there are obviously avenues for some directions content creators want to go, but it kind of relies on a lot of self promotion outside their space.

I'm just bringing this up because I think the base concept of this is very interesting and has a lot of potential, but I feel if nothing changes about reddit beyond the userpage itself and having threads being discoverable on /all/popular/new, it can end up working well for powerusers, but for everyone else could lead to being discouraged by noone reaching their content, along with promoting people being a bit more aggresive with self promotion to break through that wall.

[–]Durrok 436 ポイント437 ポイント  (282子コメント)

I'm a bit confused as to your reasoning behind this. Wouldn't making their own subreddit accomplish the exact same thing? Seems benign either way but there is a lot of overlap between how subreddits can function today and this profile page.

[–]_vargas_ 164 ポイント165 ポイント  (33子コメント)

This is exactly why I created my own eponymous subreddit. That, and the fact that some dildo was going around creating then squatting on "username" subreddits.

[–]falconbox 120 ポイント121 ポイント  (10子コメント)

That, and the fact that some dildo was going around creating then squatting on "username" subreddits.

A while back there was some guy who used a bot to create subreddits for anyone with over 100,000 comment karma IIRC.

He had created one for my username. I messaged him when I realized and he handed it right over to me. I think he said he did it so that people couldn't maliciously take subreddit names.

[–]MediocreGimp 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (5子コメント)

That was the good one. The 1 good one.

Then there was a bad one that sits on them and doesn't hand them over. For "reasons".

[–]Kate_4_President 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah another one said he would give the subs back if he "thought that user will make good use of it" and would often try to stay on subs as top mod, to make sure people actively developped those subs. Frigg off, we ain't developping all these subs for you to squat on. He still sits on a metric ton full of NSFW subs

[–]CarrowCanary 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (7子コメント)

6k subs. Dunno whether to be impressed, or disappointed it's not even more.

[–]_vargas_ 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I never really tried to grow it. Whenever I have a "popular" post out in the wild, it will draw in a couple thousand views from folks scoping my userpage. Maybe a few dozen end up actually subbing. I try to make about one post there a day, but any "blog" type of post usually only gets around 20 net upvotes.

[–]EditingAndLayout 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same here, and that's worked out well for me.

[–]madd74 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah, but the new Reddit rules (someone link me up please?) prevent this sort of thing from happening from user known as Ragwort from doing said things...

[–]astrawnomore 229 ポイント230 ポイント  (147子コメント)

Making a subreddit for yourself is clunky at best, and perceived as narcissistic at worst. It seems like the admins want to encourage original content creators to publish directly to reddit, and this is a great way to make that experience smoother.

Plus, you no longer have the issue of semi-popular users posting to subreddits and basically disrupting smaller communities with their own thunder.

[–]devperez 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Plus, you no longer have the issue of semi-popular users posting to subreddits and basically disrupting smaller communities with their own thunder.

LOL. That's not going to stop. People like Gallowboob literally get paid to post on reddit all day. He's going to post crap to his profile and then cross post to 12 other subs as well. This only gives them another avenue to spam reddit. It won't solve that problem.

[–]rebbsitor 382 ポイント383 ポイント x3 (45子コメント)

It seems like the admins want to encourage original content creators to publish directly to reddit

So... this has the effect of drawing content away from subs it belongs in.

Essentially turning reddit into Twitter where someone is talking at you, versus a forum where stuff comes in through a community filter.

I'm not usually one for hyperbole, but this sounds like an absolutely terrible idea thought up by someone who doesn't understand reddit. This will totally change the character of reddit and I don't think the post above comparing this to Digg v4 is too far off.

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it." Ah well, it was a good run while it lasted.

It seems like the admins want to encourage original content creators to publish directly to reddit

Also, last I checked the rules forbid the majority of someone's posts to be self generated content. It falls under the Spam policy (Self Promotion).

[–]glitchn 80 ポイント81 ポイント  (25子コメント)

So... this has the effect of drawing content away from subs it belongs in.

More like it gives people a place to post their stuff without breaking all of the self-promotion rules that reddit has.

Over at /r/AndroidGaming we have a lot of users that want to make games and post all of their updates in the subreddit. Well that can get overwhelming to have to keep telling people to limit the amount of updates. Now they can post a single thread about their game and tell people to follow their user page for future updates.

So I assume this is more a place for people to post their self-promotion to keep it away from people who don't want to see it.

[–]Kruug 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (4子コメント)

make games and post all of their updates in the subreddit.

There should be a subreddit for that game...much like /r/Clash_Royale or /r/ClashOfClans.

That way, more than just the developer can contribute to the conversation. See subs like /r/OpenMW, /r/MySummerCar, /r/Factorio, etc.

[–]Luna_LoveWell 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Making a subreddit for yourself is clunky at best, and perceived as narcissistic at worst.

That's not true at all. It's useful for content creators while offering other advantages like being able to sticky content and comments, allow others to post, etc.

[–]EditingAndLayout 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Exactly. I still think I'll stick with my personal subreddit over this new page, but we'll see how it goes. I don't have the time or the desire to build something else up again. I had a lot more free time back then, haha.

[–]Luna_LoveWell 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I plan to stick with my own subreddit as well.

[–]TheEnemyOfMyAnenome 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I mean I think the idea is to make a more intuitive, deliberate version of /r/<username> subreddits. If you think about it, creating /r/Luna_Lovewell or /r/EditingAndLayout is kind of a workaround where a deliberate feature should be.

[–]Indie_uk 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except not really because I go to writer subs to ONLY see content, not a mix as above

[–]t0talnonsense 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How many people make it to those smaller, personal, subreddits though? I think that's part of the point. By giving people a personal page, people will be more likely to see this type of content without having to track down that individual's sub. From mobile apps, I can easily view a person's profile page. I cannot easily see what subs they moderate to see if they post on their own, personal, sub.

[–]turikk 315 ポイント316 ポイント  (130子コメント)

So basically the user page turns into a restricted subreddit. Neat.

[–]IIHURRlCANEII 148 ポイント149 ポイント  (66子コメント)

Wonder what GallowBoob's is gonna look like.

[–]ZeroAccess 137 ポイント138 ポイント  (43子コメント)

Like MrBabyMan's right before Digg fell. This is a terrible idea.

[–]dietotaku 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (39子コメント)

For those of us who never used Digg, what does that mean?

[–]drdanieldoom 125 ポイント126 ポイント  (37子コメント)

Digg was more like Reddit back in the day. They had power users just like Reddit does now. However, Digg decided to focus on power user curated content. This led to more not being able to participate and were instead made to read things from a few users.

This was widely seen as a mistake because what Digg was offering before was participation, but they messed up and thought they were offering content.

Reddit sometimes describes itself as a content platform rather than a participation platform, and so the risk of this happening here has been on people's mind.

[–]julian88888888 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Digg died because they removed the down-vote option. Imagine for a second if Reddit did that.

[–]TechnologyEvangelist 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Digg died because they let allowed companies to flood the platform and marketers jam up the rest of the bandwidth.

[–]cuteintern 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember Digg turning into a listicle mill at that time. It got so bad I left ... for Reddit. Almost exactly six years ago.

[–]devperez 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Posts from a year ago across a dozen communities, with a few OC posts sprinkled about to make him seem less spammy.

[–]beernerd 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (58子コメント)

Pretty much. Users like /u/editingandlayout have been using restricted subs to share their work this way for a while now.

[–]EditingAndLayout 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (55子コメント)

I think I still have the largest personal subreddit—or close to it at least. Too bad I can't carry those subscribers over.

[–]beernerd 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (26子コメント)

Certainly the largest personal sub for a user that keeps their clothes on.

[–]Luna_LoveWell 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (13子コメント)

People think my words are sexy.

[–]beernerd 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yeah yeah, I saw 50 Shades of Grey.

[–]_vargas_ 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (9子コメント)

But did you see Fifty Shades Darker? There's a very sexy scene involving some ben wa balls I think you'd enjoy.

[–]beernerd 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I have heard some rather rave reviews, mostly about the stuff that comes after the credits...

[–]_vargas_ 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Spoiler A guy named Nick Furry shows up and asks Ananstasia and Christian if he can speak with them about the Fetishist Initiative.

[–]beernerd 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like where this is going... maybe you and /u/luna_lovewell could team up and flesh it out. I'd be happy to help with casting. I have a couch...

[–]Mister_Jay_Peg 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey now, I personally know for a fact that taking your clothes off does NOT equal high subscriber count, it actually LOWERS it.............................

[–]beernerd 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I told you I was going to unsubscribe if you didn't quit posting nudes on r/mister_jay_peg

[–]Mister_Jay_Peg 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OOOOOH. I thought you said you would unsubscribe unless I stopped posting NUKES...

I thought it was odd that someone would get that worked up over videos of the Tsar Bomba.

[–]Luna_LoveWell 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (15子コメント)

My subreddit has got about 15,000 more subscribers than yours :-)

[–]beernerd 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is absurd. Everyone knows gifs > reading. Something must be done about this...

[–]Luna_LoveWell 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (3子コメント)

On Reddit, that is definitely true. Every once in a while, I'll have someone just comment "TL;DR" on my posts. I wonder why that person ever bothered visiting WritingPrompts in the first place.

[–]ShaneH7646 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Almost like Facebook. Neat

[–]Mister_Jay_Peg 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

TRY PLEXUS, IT WORKED FOR ME AND IT WILL WORK FOR YOU. ITS ALL ABOUT GUT HEALTH. DONT YOU WANT A HEALTHY GUT LIKE ME?

[–]Nesman64 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know how to say this, but you were more attractive before you lost the weight.

[–]Mister_Jay_Peg 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's all good, there are folks who love the cuddly bear look, and I won't link shame 'em.

[–]FuriousGorilla 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do not want a Facebook wall, thanks but no thanks.

[–]316nuts 87 ポイント88 ポイント  (15子コメント)

We’re making this change because content creators tell us they have a hard time finding the right place to post their content.

what ever happened to creating your own subreddit to dump your junk into??

who moderates these personal pages? if content is illegal, personal, whatever and it is reported - who deals with it?

how will these personal pages be handled in the future? do users apply for them?

will users be identified "in the wild" somehow as having a special profile page? how else will other users know to look on their profile page? casual user stalking?

[–]Werner__Herzog 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Good stuff, linking to r/316cats will always be relevant.

[–]316nuts 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (3子コメント)

does a profile page have followers?

does it have a modqueue?

if it's not a subreddit, how does it get moderated?

does it have.. modmail? userpagemail?

if a big fight breaks out and i want to lock comments - can i?

i'm now more interested in how it's different than a subreddit, because everything so far makes it sound like "yah your userpage is actually a pseudo subreddit now because you're too lazy to squat on your own name and build it up"

it's taken me years to get my cats this famous and it's taken countless attempts to abuse poor totesmetabot. here you change all of that and make some new generic userpage? rabble rabble rabble

[–]dakta 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

does a profile page have followers?

Maybe the "friends" feature will finally have a use! /s

if it's not a subreddit, how does it get moderated?

Clearly the admins want so make more work for themselves since they'll be the ones policing these new pages.

does it have.. modmail? userpagemail?

PM would be the logical answer.

i'm now more interested in how it's different than a subreddit, because everything so far makes it sound like "yah your userpage is actually a pseudo subreddit now because you're too lazy to squat on your own name and build it up"

Because this change seems to have been the result of reddit trying to court outside internet celebrities (for the exposure to get reddit more popular; I can't blame them), who can't be assed to learn how reddit already works.

[–]razorbeamz 171 ポイント172 ポイント  (37子コメント)

We’re making this change because content creators tell us they have a hard time finding the right place to post their content.

Translation: People want a place where they can freely violate self promotion guidelines without mods removing their posts.

[–]drocks27 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (23子コメント)

seems like a win win. Subs aren't spammed and no one has to go to that person's profile unless they want to see that person's content

[–]Rhamni 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, this is actually good then. Mods can now tell people "stop it. If you want to constantly self promote, do it on your profile." I don't think this will change reddit much, and it marginally improves things. As long as people aren't stupid enough to doxx themselves and then continue to post as if they were still anonymous.

[–]D0cR3d 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (14子コメント)

How will this impact the guidelines and reles regarding self promotion? Self promotion is more/less defined and more than 10% of your history being related to self promotion. If they are able to post to their own profile, does that count for or against them, or not at all? Will the /r/spam bot pick their profiles up and count it as spam due to the increased promotion of themselves?

[–]liltrixxy[A] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (10子コメント)

The self promo guidelines won’t apply on the profile page but will apply across reddit when they post in other communities. If people use their profile to behave in a spammy way, we expect it to self implode due to lack of followers but we’re starting very small to track these kinds of issues. As we onboard these users, we'll be educating them specifically on self promotion in communities.

[–]D0cR3d 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Thanks for that info.

So as mods, are we expected/encouraged to ignore anything posted to their profile and not count it towards self promotion when we factor any posts they make to communities?

Are you also able to share the education you will be providing to the users so we can use that as well for educating our own users?

[–]liltrixxy[A] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Since the self promo ratio guidelines exist as a way to discourage people from posting their content into communities that don’t want them there, I think it would be pretty weird if they were punished for posting on their own profiles and then coming into other communities and just participating normally and within those guidelines outside of their profile. So, of course, I hope the guidance of that ratio is applied in the spirit it was intended.

With a very small group of users involved, much of the self promo education is happening in real time.

[–]purplespengler 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think it would be pretty weird if they were punished for posting on their own profiles and then coming into other communities and just participating normally and within those guidelines outside of their profile.

How do you reconcile this with the fact that your username on every comment and post you make is a link to your own profile, and therefore to any spam that you're choosing to post there, as well as any spam comments on your posts that you choose not to moderate?

[–]db_voy 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to facebook

So users will stop contributing to the subreddits. After a while, no one (or lets say much less people) will want to follow subreddits because they're "lame". And when profile pages are much more important, reddit will become one more unsuccessful copy of facebook.

You're killing what makes you special.

[–]seanjenkins 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (9子コメント)

In my opinion this is a absolutely horrible move, we don't need to turn Reddit into a popularly contest.

I like how on Reddit everyone is pretty much equal, unlike YouTube where you have to be a celebrity with 1,000,000 subscribers to get noticed. Anyone on Reddit can get noticed, but now only the select few popular people will ever be noticed on Reddit, and the rest of us will just be the comment section.

(Update) Maybe we could reach a compromise, you can post on your profile, and people can follow you. But no one can see how many followers you have, not even you.

Then Reddit won't become a popularity contest and people will get their little area to post whatever. What do you think /u/hidehidehidden

Also as another user stated you will start getting a ton of "look at my profile" spam posts, because now every user has a reason to spam, popularity. So this wont decrease spam, it will increase it.

If this goes the way it looks like it's going I see Reddit becoming a pretty toxic/dead place in a few years

Don't pull a digg on me!!!

[–]patrickkcassells 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i feel the same way. i love the egalitarianism of reddit.

the only real prestige is the imaginary internet points. "followers" are real people, not imaginaty.

[–]SometimesY 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I feel like this is inviting A LOT of spam on reddit, when we're already having a major issue with this as it is with these horrible spam rings. Allowing these posts to make /r/popular or /r/all seems like a bad idea, too.

[–]drcorchit 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Bad idea. They should just make their own subreddits.

[–]joeyoungblood 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So basically a Facebook newsfeed? Please don't. That's what makes Reddit great, I dont have users to follow, I have topics.

Edit: With my objections noted, I would be willing to test it out. Currently I post my musings to random subreddits.

[–]splattypus 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (18子コメント)

So my Snoovatar isn't a waste after all!

[–]316nuts 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

i knew it would become relevant sooner or later!

[–]splattypus 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Better late than never

/tips $1 imaginary redditnote funbuck.

[–]reverend_green1 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (30子コメント)

How will moderation of user profile posts work?

[–]Kijafa 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I'd guess that admins will be responsible for enforcing site-wide rules.

[–]splattypus 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (9子コメント)

admins will be responsible for enforcing site-wide rules

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[–]ManOfGizmosAndGears 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This can only end well.

[–]splattypus 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah this is gonna be....something.

Let's just say I'm glad it wasn't my idea I pitched at the board meeting.

[–]ManOfGizmosAndGears 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Quit deflecting. We know it was you. Get him!

[–]splattypus 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was only trying to make it easier to data-mine all our users by having them directly volunteer their personal metadata. I swear I only had the most honest of intentions!

[–]reverend_green1 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So will admins be routinely checking user profiles? Will there be report options for profile posts? Will those reports go directly to the admins? Because if that's the case there's a big chance for report spamming to occur.

[–]allthefoxes 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. I am interested to see how this goes. I just hope that if it goes well , subreddits and communities aren't one day turned to the wayside.

[–]Niezo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. I'm not sure what to make of it myself. The nice thing of Reddit is that you have so many diverse communities, not just a few users who are followed. I certainly hope that it isn't the admins intent to put less priority over subreddits.

We'll see.

[–]cdos93 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As someone who sees themselves as fitting into the demographic of the average reddit user, I gotta say that I'm not a fan.

The whole thing that sets reddit apart is that it's community aggregated rather than a user by user one.

[–]Gaywallet 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I imagine a big reason for pushing for this is to help deal with sub squatters.

[–]CarrowCanary 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Doubt it'll make a difference, they'll just post to two places now instead of one.

[–]Gaywallet 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Perhaps I should have been more specific. There's a few users on Reddit who snag up /r/username subs of individuals once they cross a certain karma or notoriety threshold. They have zero intentions of using the sub, usually, albeit sometimes they use it to insult the user.

They remain active simply to deny the person access to a sub of their username.

[–]purpleslug 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is actually horrific. I'm not even a reactionary, but this will kill niche subs, defeat the purpose of reddit as being a platform for communities not blogs, and remove a whole element from a website.

I don't want to be able to follow users. I only use that website because it isn't like that. I say: hogwash. You should retcon this immediately. Stop killing things that already work. Please.

[–]brown_paper_bag 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can already follow users by adding them as a friend. This change makes no sense.

[–]kitmatthews 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of the best things about reddit is that it takes the emphasis away from the people and puts it on the content. Unlike other forms of social media, there are very few big personalities on reddit, and people are upvoted mainly for their content, not just for who they are. This profile page concept is directly in opposition to the main reason why I like reddit so much.

[–]ShaneH7646 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (6子コメント)

So... This is basically Facebook statuses right?

[–]graaahh 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I could be wrong but it sounds more like your profile will just become a subreddit unto itself, where you post threads and people can comment. More like a subreddit than a facebook profile.

[–]jippiejee 129 ポイント130 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Reddit: no longer about community. Welcome back to Myspace and Livejournal.

[–]ZeroAccess 89 ポイント90 ポイント  (11子コメント)

And Digg. This was the biggest problem with powerusers, and will just lead to more. Now the more followers you have the more posts will get recognized, which will lead to more followers etc. Powerusers there would immediately hit the front page because 2,000 of their personal followers would instantly upvote everything they posted.

Anyway, like and subscribe if you want more of this content

[–]jippiejee 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I really liked this comment. How can I subscribe to your newsletter?

[–]nlofe 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Save it, it's all yours my friend.

[–]codeverity 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is ripe for abuse from t_d and other groups if they're not careful. I hope they're prepared.

[–]AnSq 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope they're prepared.

Of course they're not. When has the Reddit administration been prepared for anything?

[–]graaahh 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I mean it kinda sounds like that, except those were mainly profile-focused platforms, and reddit is still community-focused. I think most people probably wouldn't use this very much, but for the people who would (original content creators) it would be very helpful.

[–]jippiejee 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Reddit is just saying to people that only dump their own stuff without any further participation that that's ok now. Tell them to buy ad space instead if all you want to do is promote your vlog or blog.

They don't want to participate on our platform, they want our users on their platform.

[–]graaahh 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I mean I could obviously be reading it wrong, but it really doesn't sound like a self-promotion thing either. Lots of people seem to be making this more of a big deal than it is. It's just like a subreddit on your user profile, so you can make posts, people can comment, etc. It doesn't sound any different than a subreddit in practice except that it's intrinsically tied to your username. So who cares?

Besides, I find it disingenuous to act like original content creators are just out to make a name for themselves or something, when everyone on reddit is constantly complaining about reposts in every subreddit. Content creators are the lifeblood of this site. I think it's great that they'll have an easy way to put all their stuff somewhere that's tied to their usernames.

[–]recipriversexcluson 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

TIL: Reddit is becoming Facebook.

[–]Devuluh 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds terrible, I liked Reddit because it was NOT based around our profiles.

[–]canipaybycheck 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh no. No no no. This is not twitter. Reddit is NOT about individual users, it's about the communities. This discourages participation in communities because you can just post to your own "unmoderated" userpage.

Plus this just seems like a terrible workaround for your awful sub discovery tools. How about you spend time helping people find the right communities to post instead of giving up like this and letting people throw their posts onto their own page? This goes against the spirit of the site. Content on reddit should stand on its own merits, not the merits of whoever posted it. Let twitter be the place where you follow people, and let the cults of personality stay there. Those have already begun to creep into reddit but this change just blows the doors clear off.

[–]ThaddeusJP 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

and logged-in redditors will be able to follow them.

Can we block folks? Not saying its gonna end up this way, but someone could pick up stalkers/haters.

These posts will appear following the same “hot” algorithms as everything else.

Any worry about the so called super user ending up on the FP a ton and people bitching? ALSO what if these folks use this as an opportunity to start shilling for stuff?

You KNOW these folks WILL BE approached about taking money for exposure - not saying its gonna be a common thing, just asking.

[–]on_a_moose 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This reminds me of what Digg did, before Digg got Dedd. Maybe you have a better way figured out, but it sounds like you're trying to shape reddit into a site where people follow users rather than subreddits. That's called Facebook. Or in some senses, Twitter. Reddit brings something else to the table, and I think that is a significant part of why the site has been so successful. I don't think that turning it into just another mish mash of social media "features" adds anything of value. If anything, it will deter people like me from using the site, as I have no interest in participating in sites like Facebook or Twitter. I come here to read, mainly. Don't fuck it up, please.

[–]LuckyBdx4 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

reddit, the new failbook lite. :(

Horrible Idea.

[–]SageWaterDragon 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The majority of comments that I'm seeing here are negative - Reddit has something really special in the way that communities form and ideas spread, what you're proposing is a fundamental shift in the way the site culture would work. Make sure to listen to the criticism being leveled against this, because if Reddit loses what makes it interesting people will absolutely leave.

[–]Hubris2 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The question is whether people want to view content on the basis of a frontpage which has seen upvotes from others, or on the basis of following the Gallowboob or IbleedOrange users who contribute a disproportionate (but still minority) of the frontpage content. If content is great, it should get attention regardless of whether posted in r/pics or r/funny or r/technology - but to have people following an individual contributor you're going to see all their duds as well as the top posts.

I do have some friends on Reddit who I manually follow through the userpage, but this does seem to transfer a lot of power/attention towards the big posters rather than a frontpage.

[–]creesch 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (4子コメント)

We’re making this change because content creators tell us they have a hard time finding the right place to post their content.

Could you please define what constitutes content creators and how you arrived at the conclusion this should be prioritized?

I am rather skeptical on the prioritization of these sort of things because the last time people tried to talk about this they pretty much got complete ignored. I mean I am all for trying out new things but this feels like something aimed at solely attracting more people that see reddit as a dumping ground for their content and who have no interest in being part of the actual community. So I fear that unless this is thought out really well to prevent that attitude this will make the spam issue for mods even worse since people simply aren't going to be content with just sharing on their profile.

[–]Kijafa 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this feels like something aimed at solely attracting more people that see reddit as a dumping ground for their content and who have no interest in being part of the actual community.

I believe that's what they're trying to get. So that people will add reddit their reddit userpage to their list of links when they self-promote. Those users (and the followers that come with them) are a great source of eyeballs-on-ads. The best thing is their fans don't even need to make an account! Or go onto any actual subreddits.

[–]deviantbono 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is basically the same reason (or reverse) from why they got rid of /r/all -- people would just spam whatever to the place they knew it would get seen, completely bypassing the community/subreddit "feature" of reddit.

This is also becoming a trend in the overall direction of reddit, since the "no karma for self posts" rule was also reversed under similar logic (i.e. we don't mind low-effort spamming anymore, go nuts).

Less dramatic, but I've also noticed basically zero interest in enforcing the "asking for upvotes is a violation of intergalactic law". Some days my front page (and "all") is basically 100% upvote begging (e.g. the new algorithm is designed to keep 'x' off the front page, let's get our boys in blue to the front page, etc.)

[–]allthefoxes 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another comment mentions how this problem is supposed to help with the "Where are my posts supposed to go" type questions. The answer is, explore reddit, read the rules of the community, and discover.

But, thats not good enough for low-effort users.

[–]EditingAndLayout 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I've worked to build up /r/EditingAndLayout as the place I post over the last four years, and I have almost 25,000 subscribers. Will those subscribers carry over, or does this mean I have to start from scratch?

[–]graaahh 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm sure that a) a sticky post telling people to go subscribe to your profile would bring over every one of the 25,000 subscribers who's still an active account who is subscribed on purpose, and b) you won't have to shut down your personal subreddit anyway unless you want to do so. At least the admins haven't given any indication that you'd have to. (Not that I've seen anyway).

[–]biznatch11 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alternatively, if you already have an active subreddit for yourself you could make a post on your user page directing people to your subreddit, and just not use this new self-sub feature.

[–]EditingAndLayout 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll just stick to my subreddit at this point. I don't feel like building something else up again.

[–]Mason11987 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In terms of function, how different will your profile page be from a personal subreddit (like /r/mason11987) set to restricted?

  • Can anyone comment?
  • Can you control if you show up on all/popular?
  • Can it be private?
  • Do you have full moderation capability, banning/muting/modmail/stickies/etc?
  • Can you mod other people, do the permissions work the same?
  • Do you have a wiki?
  • Stats?
  • Can you use auto-mod?
  • Is there CSS?

I really like this idea though.

[–]Saicotic 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

honestly though this seems like a pointless change. you can already create an unlimited number of vanity/personal subs. why did you put all this effort into attaching a vanity sub to each account instead of just allowing users to "sticky" a sub to the top of their modlist and giving every user a subreddit of their own name with a different subdomain to prevent squatting? e.g. reddit.com/p/Saicotic

[–]Kipkluif 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I very much dislike this change if it gets implemented. The main thing I like about Reddit is that it is community/subject-based, and not person-based. I don't think "Don't subscribe to profile pages" applies because the very existence of this function will change the standard for posting.

[–]ShaneH7646 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why is this in r/modnews and not r/announcements? This doesn't have anything to do with mods

[–]graaahh 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not an admin, but I've noticed in the past that site-wide changes have been posted about here a while in advance of being posted about on r/announcements.

[–]qtx 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

r/announcements is for when stuff is released/available for everyone. This is still in a beta version I guess.

[–]nigborg 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Why are you guys adding all this new stuff? Reddit is fine the way it is. I don't think you guys should be making it easier for "Power Users" to exist and thrive.

[–]canipaybycheck 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Power users killed Digg. I can only surmise that that's what they're going for with this change.

[–]Trauermarsch 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Interesting, I can see many applications for this in /r/WritingPrompts, which I used to mod. Hope the current mods in there find this feature useful!

[–]Luna_LoveWell 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't really see what the difference is. And having a private subreddit seems to have a number of other advantages, like allowing others to make posts there if you want to.

[–]MarioneTTe-Doll 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It reads a bit as if this is intended to replace "single-user" subreddits, where a person posts their own content that can be followed by others (such as stories from /r/writingprompts, various video makers, etc), or is used as a private notepad. Will there be a way to make specific content you post on your profile private, or will it all be permanently public?

[–]KriosDaNarwal 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you're basically creating Twitter?

[–]FatherStorm 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Uhmm. suspiciously close to 4/1. please ensure me this is not a buildup to something 4/1'ish

[–]SmithKurosaki 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why are you guys adding facebook wall features to reddit?

[–]gredgex 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this is a terrible idea. great example of someone fixing something that wasn't broken.

[–]TooPrettyForJail 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is going to be spammed and manipulated completely. Top submitters will all be shills for marketing companies and political action committees and they will control the conversation.

[–]ManWithoutModem 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just read almost every single comment here and all I want to say is that this is really not what reddit was made for afaik, we aren't twitter/tumblr/facebook. Who thought that this was a good idea in the first place? Why is this a priority over so many other potential site features?

[–]thirdegree 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We facebook now!

[–]dakta 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, Facebook-impersonation, the final stage before death and irrelevance.

[–]loller 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This sounds like it will further perpetuate the idea that content creators shouldn't submit their own work to relevant subs because "self-promotion is bad," relegating it to their personal pages, which will have extremely limited exposure in the first place unless you're already known for something in particular.

[–]TheAppleFreak 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Will users have the ability to use AutoMod on their profiles?

[–]UnknownNam3 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a big issue. AutoModerator already is the biggest moderation tool; it would suck to not be able to use it.

[–]TotesMessenger 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]CSFFlame 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is what caused the digg poweruser problem...

[–]Saicotic 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

congratulations on inventing twitter

[–]Tomes2789 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a terrible idea.

Digg 2.0 incoming.

[–]freeradicalx 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go no, fuck no. This sounds awful. The only reason I'm not repelled from Reddit is because at it's core it is a discussion forum, not a social network, and the content is ephemeral in that it becomes impossible to find after a few years (That's not a bad thing). It doesn't revolve around users and their doings, it revolves around links and the discussions of those links. I really hope this doesn't get deployed site-wide. Fuck 'power users' and 'content creators'. Reddit is a meta-site not a content host.

[–]fringly 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi /u/HideHideHidden,

As lots of people have identified in this thread, WritingPrompts (where I mod, although I am speaking as just me) is probably the subreddit where this will be most applicable, we have hundreds of users with personal subreddits linked for their work and this might impact us quite a lot - but as of right now, we don't really know what this is, how it'll work and what it really means for us.

It's not ideal for once again changes to be rolled out without really any details for mods. We might need to update rules and so forth, but we can't until we know properly what this means.

As a start, can you tell us who the testers are, and it'd be nice to get a bit more detail about how this'll work, what the site rules are in regards to cross posting and so forth. If there are only a few then the first people you pick to "test" this are potentially going to become immediate reddit celebrities - is this going to be admins, or are we going to have to deal with the fallout of a few random folk?

Are we talking 5 people in the test group or 5,000?

It would have been lovely to have had the chance to feed into this process, I hope you'll consider reaching out as you move this forward.

[–]brown_paper_bag 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How will this comply with reddit rules surrounding partnerships and profiteering? There have been several subs that have had mods removed when it was determined that they were receiving perks or benefits from companies by promoting them or by using affiliate links to slowly rake in cash. As it sounds like posting to a profile is essentially the same as posting to a subreddit, how are you going to ensure that users who post to their profiles aren't directly profiting from it as they are "modding" themselves?

I appreciate that you are trying to make improvements but is seems like there will now be two sets of standards for content as its already been mentioned that not all the content policies will apply to profile submissions.

As a mod of a few subreddits, I am not looking forward to the hours of work this will create in ensuring that my subs don't become filled with even more spam than they currently receive. Combined with the new "guideline" rules, you are putting mods at the mercy of argumentative self-promoters with nothing to support them.

[–]Hooman_Super 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Facebook statuses and twitter followers.... on reddit?

[–]SMc-Twelve 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow. This feels so 15 years ago, I don't even know what to say.

[–]burgo666 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

so basically Facebook, sounds lame. This is not what reddit is about

[–]damn_it_so_much 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

#makeredditfacebookagain

[–]Yellowdash34 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What do you mean by community posts going into a "Legacy" category?

Are profile posts supposed to become the new norm? This isn't Facebook this is Reddit. I understand sorting the two kinds of posts into different categories, but please don't call community posts "Legacy" and profile posts "New".

[–]aperson 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus Christ. Do you want to turn into Digg? Because this is how you turn into Digg.

[–]hoyfkd 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, Facebook?

[–]DistraughtStrawberry 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hate this idea, I can't imagine continuing to use Reddit after this. Focus on content not celebrity posters. It was a good run

[–]whitem4ge 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a bad idea, people will recognize other users and target them.