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FlatEarth Conviced Me (self.conspiracy)

DrWaveLength が 投稿

I can't really find the words RightNow because I'm fucking switching eelaities and everything I know is changing and so many new dots are being connected right now but this video showed me the truth. It all makes sense now. I just don't know what to do now. https://youtu.be/ADKgSJZ2-hA everything has changed

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[–]_another_throwawayy_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like to keep an open mind. Every time I'm on a plane, everything i can see at 60,000ft flat. Has anyone ever explained at what point you can start to see the curvature?

[–]natavism 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qijp8jEfa0

That's a side-by-side comparison from a guy whose done extensive modeling of the heliocentric and flat models. You should be able to begin to easily see a curve at only a few miles - definitely by 30,000 ft. More stuff like this at /r/theworldisflat

[–]-Teekey- 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (23子コメント)

Skipped around. Some of these claims are just comical, and fall apart with anything beyond elementary school reasoning.

"Why doesn't a plane have to constantly dip down as it flies around the Earth?" Seriously? Good lord.

[–]NonThinkingPeeOn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good lord? please explain.

[–]-Teekey- 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a question where the answer can only makes 'sense' if you pre-suppose that it's impossible for a round earth to exist.

If a plane is flying at at 20,000ft - that's relative to it's position to the ground. So if it flies straight and level, they will stay at 20,000 ft as the Earth naturally curves.

The idea that they'll just fly up and off into space is hilariously stupid.

[–]DrWaveLength[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Hm

[–]-Teekey- 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Beyond the fact that I think flat earth theory is ridiculous...from a purely logical perspective, if any single video can convince you of something, you really need to reexamine your critical thinking.

Not to mention, it's quite literally just a bunch of random quote clips.

[–]NonThinkingPeeOn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Beyond the fact that I think flat earth thoery is ridiculous...from a purely logical perspective

What logic? Where is it? please give a breakdown of the facts that logically lead you to your conclusion.

[–]-Teekey- 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What logic? Where is it? please give a breakdown of the facts that logically lead you to your conclusion.

First, I have to address that the two sentences you're trying to string together are separate ideas.

  1. I think flat earth theory is ridiculous.

  2. From a purely logical perspective, being fully convinced by one video of random quotes and no sources is a bit ridiculous.

Secondly, as it's by far accepted science and even easily personally demonstrable, I'd be far more interested in your specific reasons you think the flat earth is real.

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    [–]-Teekey- 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't get mad at me because you can't defend your own theory without whining or being the Boy that Cried Shill.

    [–]IntellisaurDinoAlien[M] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Did your research explain tides, the heliacal rising of Sirius or the precession of the equinoxes? Hell, you could even just consider why a falling water drop always forms a sphere.

    Your tempban for rule 10 should give you plenty of time to research this properly.

    [–]natavism -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Modest research can reveal that tides are not adequately explained by universal gravitation - and that the concept thereof is preposterous and completely unproven.

    A little more in depth research will show you that all the astral phenomenon you spoke of and countless more are better explained by the flat earth model - and that the heliocentric model requires faith in abstractions and once again is not independently verifiable - hence revealing that it is not actual science. You cannot execute the scientific method and end up with earth as a spinning ball.

    Water droplets forming little balls has more to do with surface tension than the shape of the earth as well - hope this helps you with your research.

    Best wishes

    [–]IntellisaurDinoAlien 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    A little more in depth research will show you that all the astral phenomenon you spoke of and countless more are better explained by the flat earth model

    Feel free to explain the precession of the equinoxes right now. I can wait while you look it up.

    [–]natavism -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    You've already been banned from /r/theworldisflat for trolling and have actively encouraged others to troll it in this very thread. I don't really feel like you would take any answer from me seriously if I did give it to you. Please do your own research. That burden is on you friend :)

    edit: Additionally, any explanation the heliocentric model has involves a spinning, rotating, and tilted earth - which is easily proven to be not accurate. So why embrace a model which you know is at least partly wrong?

    [–]IntellisaurDinoAlien 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Please do your own research.

    I thought that might be your answer, I seriously doubt you'd even understand the principles behind it TBH. I did my research 20 years ago mate and no amount of shoddy youtube videos by people without a basic understanding of rudimentary astronomy or physics is going to change that now. The pre 17th century seafaring cultures had a better understanding of the planet than any flat earther as any cursory study of the Portolan maps of Piri Reis or Oranteus Finnaeus will confirm. Their maps were supposedly based on far older sources and contain reasonably accurate Latitude and Longtitude markings. You are literally being more uninformed than people from the Dark Ages.

    a spinning, rotating earth

    Like all the spherical rotating planets, several of which are easily visible to anyone with a decent telescope, like me?

    FYI I was banned for asking a simple question not trolling, which confirms to me which one of us is a troll on that sub. I hope you get a good laugh out of making morons look moronic but it's not much of a challenge.

    The terrifying alternative is you actually believe this absolute brainless horseshit which just makes me a little sad that humanity has fallen so deep into idiocracy so soon.

    Please don't reply further, you lost before you even started typing.

    [–]natavism -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Wow you did your research 20 years ago so you're good now, eh? lol, ok, if that's your attitude then good luck out there :) Because that attitude is not compatible with having a rational discussion with someone of differing beliefs.

    [–]natavism 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Check out /r/theworldisflat for earnest flat earth discussion if you're interested

    [–]Flat_Earth-Fat_Girth 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Hello welcome to the club humble yourself with the knowledge as the public is currently dumber than a pack of monkeys.

    [–]DrWaveLength[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Dude I'm just in mild shock rn shits fucking wild

    [–]AtomsInSnow -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Regular people can/have sent up gopros attached to a weather balloon, the images prove the earth is round.

    Sorry to completely DEMOLISH this theory with a single sentence, stay mad.

    [–]NonThinkingPeeOn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    you didn't "demolish" anything with your weak example of proof.

    Who is mad? nobody said they were mad.

    [–]13_Bloodlines 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I don't support the flat earth theory.

    However, with that being said; it's hilarious how people act like they are astrophysicists just because they can quote NASA or have read information that says the world is round.

    Either way, you are being told what to think.

    [–]CitationDependent -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Nope. Not with flat earth. There is a simple way to determine that the flat earth model can't be right.

    The model would have the sun having a much bigger circumference during winter, when it's in the "south" of the flat earth. This is not possible and can be measured by anyone. No need for NASA or much specialist knowledge.

    [–]13_Bloodlines 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I have no way to agree or disagree with you because I am not an astrophysicist.

    That being said, if I were one; I can assure you that I would only tell people what "they" wanted me to tell people.

    After all, they're the ones paying me.

    [–]CitationDependent 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nothing to do with astrophysics.

    The sun would have a longer path in winter. To shine on Tierra Del Fuego, it would need to be able to light up from this distance:

    http://imgur.com/taP5Va8

    But if it illuminated that distance, then it would be illuminating the entire world. For the flat earth model to be true, there must be no night. We have night, therefore it's false.

    [–]NonThinkingPeeOn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The model would have the sun having a much bigger circumference during winter, when it's in the "south" of the flat earth. This is not possible and can be measured by anyone.

    Why would the flat earth model require that? because you said so?

    [–]CitationDependent 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Can you show a flat earth model without the winter sun having a larger circumference?

    I have never seen one without one.

    If you can't find one, or can't make one, we are left to your ability to believe there is one.

    [–]Emmitt_Nervend1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You should watch Bill Gaede's series "Einstein's Idiots"...it highlights the irrationality of modern science in relation to the nature of the universe. Modern scientists have substituted mathematics in place of physics in an attempt to validate their claims.

    The problem with this is that mathematics is a DESCRIPTIVE language, not an EXPLANATORY one. There is a key distinction between describing something and explaining something. When you base your entire model of the universe on things that have not been thoroughly explained, you're doing a huge disservice to the field of science.

    Let's take gravity for example. Contemporary science uses Einstein's general relativity theory (a mathematical equation) to describe gravity, but no one has ever been able to actually explain how gravity exists. What properties of space and time allow them to be bent or curved by mass? Height? Width? Depth? Breadth? Neither space nor time possess any of these properties. Alternatively, how is mass able to bend or curve something that has no physical properties?

    These elementary questions have still not been answered, yet contemporary science knows for sure gravity exists and governs the nature of our universe. Gravity is the pillar that props up the notion of the heliocentric model of the universe. Flat-earth proponents should not be attempting to get people to believe in flat earth. They should be attempting to get people to ask the right questions about the world around them.

    EDIT: Here's Bill Gaede's series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSJjs4l_FHU&list=PL3B28589DA3E2FF14

    [–]natavism -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    check out /r/theworldisflat - i think it's the one of - if not the only - genuine flat earth sub on reddit - all the other flat earth subs I know of are run by trolls. /r/theworldisflat for genuine flat earth content thanks in advance

    [–]aultumn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "This is not a place to come and ask introductory questions. Coming to ask us where the edge is or similar newbie questions will get you banned." - does not strike me as being a confident or competent community or subject

    I need approval to submit. Mind you, it stopped me asking where the edge was and getting myself banned.

    [–]eastersealin -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    how come all the posts on that sub say they have like ten comments but when you look there is zero? something seems fishy to me

    [–]natavism -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    As the sidebar explains - we get brigaded all the time. There is relentless trolling, that's why the subreddit is set up the way it is. See how many posts this thread has already generated? Trolls love flat earth topic

    [–]eastersealin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    i know, i do find that the funniest part about the FE theory, people come from miles away just to tell a FEer he is retarded, people ignore the ridiculous spam that get's posted here all day everyday, but once you start talking FE people are mad lol, so because that, i'll always wonder :p

    [–]IntellisaurDinoAlien 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Trolls love flat earth topic

    Thanks for confirming this for us. I thought as much.

    [–]natavism [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    Just curious, are you accusing me of being a troll? Seems like to even intimate that would be a violation of rules :)

    Also funny in this context because you actively encouraged people to troll /r/theworldisflat elsewhere in this thread :)

    [–]IntellisaurDinoAlien [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    are you accusing me of being a troll?

    No, I'm accusing you of promoting a troll sub :)

    I actively encouraged people to see if they get banned for asking a simple question that you apparently can't even answer like EXPLAIN THE PRECESSION OF THE EQUINOXES.
    Saying 'do your research' is essentially admitting that you have no basic understanding of the solar system whatsoever. Prove me wrong.

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      [–]IntellisaurDinoAlien[M] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      all the evidence anyone needs is on /r/theworldisflat.

      Removed for spam, and trolling.

      [–]IntellisaurDinoAlien -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You could always get banned finding out, like I did. It's well worth it.

      Edit: lol at report, asking a simple question and getting banned for it is not trolling, trolling is when you ban someone for asking a simple question that utterly destroys everything you claim to believe in ten words or less.

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